Well said!

PTNL:




This guy is idle. MFM normally pray against the powers fuelling enemies actions and strategies.

Also, if you receive one serious satanic and merciless attack for once from these rulers of darkness you will understand better. Na because dem never throw you one arrow abi e never manifest yet...hmmmm. Dey dere dey run ya mouth with grammar.

ericsmith:




You said so much yet made no point, i don't have to turn anyones head when i can just make logical sense. now read & understand b4 you reply .
I don't need daddy freeze to educate me God answers prayer , so far with my life experience i can attest God answerth prayers.
Thank God you are familiar with the bible, all those miracles n deeds that happens in the scripture if God did not answer those prayers who did, samson prayed for a last strength to kill his enemies please who answered d prayer.
elisah prayed in lords name, 2 bear came out n devour children mocking him. who answered that prayer. i can go on n on ..but i think 2kings2:23-24 is enough.
Oga wey dey educated, who answered those prayers from samson & elisha in the bible

If you like believe that God answers your "fall down and die" prayers, that is none of my business"

For your example, can you show me a place Jesus or early Christian made a "fall and die prayer"?

You are wrong. "The song is "any power STANDING on my way, fall down and die".. Please don't mislead people in order to win an argument

wanger50:
"Anybody standing against me, fall down and die".....a popular MFM song.The "Anybody" there is obviously not referring to spirits but humans.This certainly doesn't support your claim here

The Bible said pray for your Enemies right? Oh.. Did the Bible gives you prayer points? it says pray for your enemies. so it's left for you to pray the kind of prayer you want

ericsmith:




You said so much yet made no point, i don't have to turn anyones head when i can just make logical sense. now read & understand b4 you reply .
I don't need daddy freeze to educate me God answers prayer , so far with my life experience i can attest God answerth prayers.
Thank God you are familiar with the bible, all those miracles n deeds that happens in the scripture if God did not answer those prayers who did, samson prayed for a last strength to kill his enemies please who answered d prayer.
elisah prayed in lords name, 2 bear came out n devour children mocking him. who answered that prayer. i can go on n on ..but i think 2kings2:23-24 is enough.
Oga wey dey educated, who answered those prayers from samson & elisha in the bible

If you like believe that God answers your "fall and die" prayer that is none of my business

For your example, can you show me a place Jesus or early Christian made a "fall and die" prayer?

jrusky:
This idiot again. Mr ice block if you chose yo pray for your own enemy pls carry on ok.

Useless idiot talking thrash. Village people never get your time if dem blow you small breeze to even open your mouth talkless of praying for them will take you 40 days fasting and prayer on the mountain den you silly useless brain go reset wella.

Nonsense bitch. You can never see this **confused raceless** human criticize people of other religion no matter what they did wrong but the moment it's Christianity he would open his confused gene brain connected to his smelly mouth and started spewing dog pooh.

You dey mad.

If Freeze is wrong, is this how a Christian (Christ like) should have corrected him?


A lot of times, I wonder what it means to be a Christian in Nigeria.

teflonjake:
There's something called asking questions. I am a member of the MFM so I know a lot about this DIE controversy.

Attending the church for the very first time I was stunned *die ke* then I asked questions, please sir what do you mean by die die?

He simply replied DIE means to stop for example someone is having marital delay you pray (every power sponsoring marital delay in my life, DIE! !! Simple means stop.)

Good! If that is the case, they should be using the word stop by fire not die by fire

Stlawr:
"9 Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him,
10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?
11 And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand."
(KJV1769+ Acts 13:9-11)

Paul didn't pray for this enemy to be successful! I pity those setting up their tent with this freeze of guy. He is an agent of darkness and I pray our eyes will be open to see the damage He is doing to the Body of Christ.

Let God be the judge!

Between Paul and Christ, who should we obey?

But the verse didn't instruct anyone to do same.

vineyardfarms:
Freeze consider these scriptures below, luke 19 v 27, lsaiah 6 v 1, 8 v 9 - 10, 49 v 26, jere 15 v 2 - 3, mfm praying - die, meaning the evil nature of the wicked should die. God curse Adam to die, doe not mean instant death. Ex 22 v 18, does not mean to kill all witches but against the evil spirit to die.

Luke 19:11-27 is a parable. Don't forget we are following the footsteps of Christ not Isaiah, Jeremiah or any other prophets. This is a new covenant, Isaiah and other prophets of old were under the old covenant which is no longer valid. Read Hebrews 8 vs 13


The Parable of the Ten Minas
11 While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once. 12 He said: “A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king and then to return. 13 So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas.[a] ‘Put this money to work,’ he said, ‘until I come back.’

14 “But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, ‘We don’t want this man to be our king.’

15 “He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it.

16 “The first one came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has earned ten more.’

17 “‘Well done, my good servant!’ his master replied. ‘Because you have been trustworthy in a very small matter, take charge of ten cities.’

18 “The second came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has earned five more.’

19 “His master answered, ‘You take charge of five cities.’

20 “Then another servant came and said, ‘Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth. 21 I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.’

22 “His master replied, ‘I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow? 23 Why then didn’t you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?’

24 “Then he said to those standing by, ‘Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.’

25 “‘Sir,’ they said, ‘he already has ten!’

26 “He replied, ‘I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what they have will be taken away. 27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”

Youngzedd:


If Freeze is wrong, is this how a Christian (Christ like) should have corrected him?


A lot of times, I wonder what it means to be a Christian in Nigeria.

Go and Google the answer yourself ok and stop quoting me. How can you correct a atheist a damn bollock ra
celess a s s hole? How do you correct someone who is full of himself and think he can Talk?

Pls keep that your gentleman thrash to yourself ok. If he know he can talk let him try and talk nonsense about Islam and let see if they would not chop off the idiot head. Pls be a Christian dont mean stupidty ok so pls stay your lane.

Wallahi I mean the guy and I'm waiting for the day i will see him face to face so stay your lane oga do you hear me?

How I wish one witchcraft show this mumu sometin

Daddy fridge Leaf wen dey swit goat nai dey kylam
Hear word

jrusky:


Go and Google the answer yourself ok and stop quoting me. How can you correct a atheist a damn bollock ra
celess a s s hole? How do you correct someone who is full of himself and think he can Talk?

Pls keep that your gentleman thrash to yourself ok. If he know he can talk let him try and talk nonsense about Islam and let see if they would not chop off the idiot head. Pls be a Christian dont mean stupidty ok so pls stay your lane.

Wallahi I mean the guy and I'm waiting for the day i will see him face to face so stay your lane oga do you hear me?

He works at CoolFM, if you go there now, you will see him.

Christ is LOVE. Anyone who follow him must love.

Equator1:
the bible said suffer the witch not to live

With the Bible verse you coated bro, the same bible said you should pray for your enemy not to die, but to see the work of God in you. Black's African's, which way na. When are we going to wake-up in Africa. White people are using our senses. Let's check out this Bible my brothers & Sisters.

ovieigho:
We wrestled not against flesh and blood
But against principalities and powers
Bros we must wrestle and they must die!!

Principalities and powers you referred to are spirit beings and can't die in the first place. This is the first time I'll agree with Daddy Freeze. It's very unscriptural to pray against perceived human enemies to die. Our real enemies in the first place are not even humans; they only manipulate humans who aren't saved against us. You can do a critical verification of this position in the light of the New Testament. We only pray a simple of resistance in the name of Jesus to resist them from our lives. God bless you.

stanliwise:
If you like believe that God answers your "fall and die" prayer that is none of my business

For your example, can you show me a place Jesus or early Christian made a "fall and die" prayer?

how about you shows me places in the bible ,someone nailed another persons glory to the tree , did the early xtain suffer spiritual attacks as we have now in africa especially nigeria. how many early xtains were use for money rituals, how many xtain in the bible had there name buried in a pot ... deosnt matter what you think these is reality, desperate times calls for desperate measures, hence the kind of prayer we pray in nigeria. that we are not struck by evil does not mean it doesnt exit.
with the early xtain were there rape cases in the church, but today are people not praying for justice against pastors alleged. desperate times call for desperate measures.

The MFM in my hood would not stop disturbing me with their continuous shouts of "Summersault and die!" "fall down and die!!" "die die!"

There are two kinds of enemies in this world. Spiritual enemies and human enemies. Luke 6:27 is referring to human enemies. Spiritual enemies are meant to die and give way so that your destiny can be established. Who wouldn't want there spiritual enemies to die

This guy is just a traffic hustler. He has abandoned his anti-tithe doctrines after the light of Mathew 23:23 shattered his doctrine of darkness.

ericsmith:





how about you shows me places in the bible ,someone nailed another persons glory to the tree , did the early xtain suffer spiritual attacks as we have now in africa especially nigeria. how many early xtains were use for money rituals, how many xtain in the bible had there name buried in a pot ... deosnt matter what you think these is reality, desperate times calls for desperate measures, hence the kind of prayer we pray in nigeria. that we are not struck by evil does not mean it doesnt exit.
with the early xtain were there rape cases in the church, but today are people not praying for justice against pastors alleged. desperate times call for desperate measures.

How many xtians had HIV or AIDs? Was the various cults of today mentioned in bible? No. The bible is a manual to man( Spirit, body and soul) and it uses various generic terms to summarize those things you are asking of. Some of them fall under the devices of the crafty.

It against the teachings of Christ

ericsmith:





how about you shows me places in the bible ,someone nailed another persons glory to the tree , did the early xtain suffer spiritual attacks as we have now in africa especially nigeria. how many early xtains were use for money rituals, how many xtain in the bible had there name buried in a pot ... deosnt matter what you think these is reality, desperate times calls for desperate measures, hence the kind of prayer we pray in nigeria. that we are not struck by evil does not mean it doesnt exit.
with the early xtain were there rape cases in the church, but today are people not praying for justice against pastors alleged. desperate times call for desperate measures.

if it is not in the Bible it is unchristain period. The Holy Bible is the Christian constitution

Jman06:
The MFM in my hood would not stop disturbing me with their continuous shouts of "Summersault and die!" "fall down and die!!" "die die!"

and fire fire fire fire

ovieigho:
We wrestled not against flesh and blood
But against principalities and powers
Bros we must wrestle and they must die!!

Word

Equator1:
the bible said suffer the witch not to live

Very true.

We are now under the law of Christ. At Romans 12:17-21, the Bible said that true Christians should return evil for evil to NO ONE. That same Scripture also says that we should not avenge ourselves because God has said "Vengeance is mine, I will repay". So, when you are firing your enemies to die, you have usurped God and has taken matters into your own hands.

That scripture also read: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him. If he is thirsty, give him something to drink. Do not let yourselves be conquered by the evil, BUT KEEP CONQUERING EVIL WITH THE GOOD.

So for those that quote "suffer not the witch to live," Jesus has something to say at Mathew 5:43-47 "You heard that it was said 'love your neighbor and hate your enemies, however I say to you : Continue to love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may prove to be sons of your father in heaven, who makes his sun shine on the righteous and the wicked. For if you love those loving you, what reward do you have? Are not the tax collectors doing the same thing? Read also Luke 6: 27, 28. Even Stephen, a true follower of Christ prayed that God not charge his opposers at Acts 7:60.

Now to the issue of principalities and powers. Your prayers CANNOT kill the devil and his demons. God has reserved a time to destroy them, so your prayers for them to die is null and void. Jesus did not destroy wicked spirits, he simply CAST THEM OUT. Remember, one of the wicked spirits asked: "are you killing us before OUR TIME?"

The Bible's mention of principalities and powers can be found at Ephesians 6:10-13. But wait! Did the Bible say that you can kill them with prayer? Never! The Bible says that we should wear our complete suit of armor so that they cannot conquer us. We are not fighting them, they are fighting us and we should be ready against them with Faith, the good news, Truth, righteousness, helmet of salvation, God's word, staying spiritually awake and prayer.

At 1Peter 2:21, the Bible says that Christ gave us A MODEL to follow CLOSELY. What the Bible teaches is clear on this and anyone going contrary to this is the ANTI-CHRIST

[quote author=Jones4190 post=80386055][/quote]well said....but did u see complication in what i typed?...u jus mentioned it ursef....my opinion tho

Cantonese:



If this young man found anything negative against Dr. Olukoya, he would have been making money out of it by now. Even as Dr. Olukoya and the MFM have kept out of the spotlight. So he has abandoned his attacks on Pastor Adeboye and other men of God.

Now he has brought this up out of his selfish desire at popularity and attempt to embarrass and mislead christians.

Ignorantly he reads his bible like he reads a novel or newspaper - no insight. Unfortunately those who follow him are just as blind as he is.

He can keep praying for his enemies to prosper and for peace in the lives of his enemies if he wants and that is his business. When the bible said "Watch and pray", what did he think it meant?

It is people like this young man who secretlt run helter skelter in search of solutions to their self inflicted spiritual problems from the MFM.

Ignorance in a lot of cases is no excuse. I think if this young man does this for cheap popularity he must put an end to it as quickly as possible.

Even God himself kills. Look at 1Samuel2:6; Genesis 38:7-10; Luke 12:5 and for avoidance of further doubt look at Ecclesiates 3:3 "a time to kill and a time to heal..."

His words are ever deceptive and I dare say quite provocative and stupid. Some christians have taken it upon themselves to destroy the church and surely by the grace of God such renegades will always fail.

The mountain of fire and miracles ministries is not one of those deceptive places where people get brainwashed and are taught confusing things about Jesus. All you need to do is take out time to worship. So also is RCCG, Deeper life bible ministries and other ministries where God's ordained Generals hold sway. Find time to worship with them.

I think this person should channel his energy to more constructive things about the church.

I don't understand you people again.the young man freeze quoted from the Bible the exact words of Jesus not paul or any old testament prophet,jesus himself,yet you say he is wrong?the devil has a very strong hold of you guys

CodeTemplar:
This guy is just a traffic hustler. He has abandoned his anti-tithe doctrines after the light of Mathew 23:23 shattered his doctrine of darkness.

In matt 23:23,was Jesus refering to his disciples?are we under the Jewish law?I don't get you guys?what's wrong with you people?

genkins:

In matt 23:23,was Jesus refering to his disciples?are we under the Jewish law?I don't get you guys?what's wrong with you people?

Na was o bros...
Jesus came to save Human race and his message to one is also to all. If we start giving all messages in the bible personal interpretation then the bible will be a collection of personal memoirs.

notoriousbabe:
if it is not in the Bible it is unchristain period. The Holy Bible is the Christian constitution

You people can be just so so funny @times ... simple question if xtains pray such prayers n it happens the enemy died ... who answered the prayer ??

ericsmith:



You people can be just so so funny @times ... simple question if xtains pray such prayers n it happens the enemy died ... who answered the prayer ??

stop asking God to kill your enemies, God is not a murderer like you guys period