Ugosample:


lmao

me i no be hypocrite o

I will not just side naija for something sense less
that's all....

The whole back and forth between AA and Nigerians are not just worth it

that's just fact

Its not worth it at all. but that AkataWoman really pushed me to the wall.

kroger:

save that mentally defeated theory, how are they mentally defeated??

that means you don't know the meaning of mental defeat....

sometimes mental defeat is self inflicted (actually many times it is)
But other times it's due to events
and a MENTALLY DEFEATED person cannot even achieve anything meaningful
where I come from in Nigeria, we have those mentally defeated people too
So I know what I'm sayin

Ugosample:


lmao

me i no be hypocrite o

I will not just side naija for something sense less
that's all....

The whole back and forth between AA and Nigerians are not just worth it

that's just fact

I repeat if you have never lived amongst them, please kindly save us your words of hypocrisy and steak with watching their music videos on TV. I cannot stand people who are neither hot or cold. Allow those who have first hand experience to voice their views on them. Shalom.

Celepope:

I repeat if you have never lived amongst them, please kindly save us your words of hypocrisy and steak with watching their music videos on TV. I cannot stand people who are neither hot or cold. Allow those who have first hand experience to voice their views on them. Shalom.

and what makes you think I have not had encounters with AA folks?

Do you know me at all

I will never engage in this foolishness of this superiority complex battle between AA and Nigerians when it's obvious no side is better

just two disadvantaged people in the world stage fighting for who is more superior


if that makes you happy
You can continue

Celepope:

I repeat if you have never lived amongst them, please kindly save us your words of hypocrisy and steak with watching their music videos on TV. I cannot stand people who are neither hot or cold. Allow those who have first hand experience to voice their views on them. Shalom.

I tell you bro, in as much as i hate saying all these but the truth is bitter, if i talk some of my experience for over 5 years living withing these peeps Nairaland wont contain it.. I am done talking jare..

Ugosample:


and what makes you think I have not had encounters with AA folks?

Do you know me at all

I will never engage in this foolishness of this superiority complex battle between AA and Nigerians when it's obvious no side is better

just two disadvantaged people in the world stage fighting for who is more superior


if that makes you happy
You can continue

Its not about superiority complex its about acting a foo.l when there is plenty enough to go round and putting the blame society, govt etc. You are solely responsible for being a failure or a success. I have seen some even blame the immigrants that sold their ancestors to slavery

kroger:


Its not about superiority complex its about acting a foo.l when there is plenty enough to go round and putting the blame society, govt etc. You are solely responsible for being a failure or a success. I have seen some even blame the immigrants that sold their ancestors to slavery

those ones are just stupid

You have not met an AA who thinks he is superior to you because he is American?

I have

But just once

the AA community where I used to live were okay sha

maybe because they were mostly well educated and exposed.


mental defeat is still the problem for many of them

African Americans my people are trying so hard to emulate

Watch them in entertainment, very classless.
Use crude words, always naked, so fake and extreemly lazyset of people to behold.

I have watched entertainment across the world and theirs are yet to evolve, like naija
Serious countries don't like to invite them over cos they have nothing to show.
Watch Beyonce talk, so classless.
Nothing stops them from home schooling even as entertainers.
It's shaking fake bwest and asss up and down.
Always violent, shouting on top of their voices with entitlement mentality.

kroger:


I tell you bro, in as much as i hate saying all these but the truth is bitter, if i talk some of my experience for over 5 years living withing these peeps Nairaland wont contain it.. I am done talking jare..

Tell us o.

We learn everyday

Leave that Ugosample, ignorant AF. Do the so called 'mentally defeated' Nigerians in Nigeria behave as african americans do towards foreigners, even towards other africans amongst them? The guy hasn't lived in the US is here joining that ässwipe of Akata that insults the whole of Africa and Nigerians saying Nigerians and African Americans are the same. I'm sure where you live your life has not been threatened by Ivoriens neither have you been discriminated against.

You are most likely to be robbed, shot, stabbed or and discriminated against in the US by an Akata than any other person, ten times over. And it'll be one low-life scrounger for that matter. Dude is just online yapping rubbish. Shame on you for discrediting hardworking Nigerians and Africans in diaspora and in Nigeria comparing them that group of people. You think watching music videos, sports and 24 is the real america. Let's hope you eventually find yourself in america if you want to migrate and experience first hand or maybe your children then you may find out that even CIV and Nigeria may be safer to live in than many places in america.

Just look at him supporting a culturally lost and condescending low-life that was obviously derailing the topic, as if the thread is about developing Nigeria. Nigerians talking about immigrant experiences and preferences and a frustrated Akata comes here to insult all of us and tell blatant lies about 'very succesful' black americans. Someone who hasn't even seen anywhere else in the world, no foreign experience whatsoever to speak of and some of you commend those ignorant bigoted comments even against your kinsmen.

Nigeria bad Nigeria bad but don't fück with the resolve and resilience of Nigerians. We are everywhere and are breaking barriers and trailblazing regardless. So keep your self-hating 'black people are the same' crap to yourself. I know where I'm from and who my ancestors are and we are NOT like Akata in anyway.

Celepope:

I repeat if you have never lived amongst them, please kindly save us your words of hypocrisy and steak with watching their music videos on TV. I cannot stand people who are neither hot or cold. Allow those who have first hand experience to voice their views on them. Shalom.

sassysure:
African Americans my people are trying so hard to emulate

Watch them in entertainment, very classless.
Use crude words, always naked, so fake and extreemly lazyset of people to behold.

I have watched entertainment across the world and theirs are yet to evolve, like naija
Serious countries don't like to invite them over cos they have nothing to show.
Watch Beyonce talk, so classless.
Nothing stops them from home schooling even as entertainers.
It's shaking fake bwest and asss up and down.
Always violent, shouting on top of their voices with entitlement mentality.

Lol, l met few, dated few during my studentship Abroad, my immediate Supervisor / Manager was an AA, I volunteered in his organization and himself and 2 other women recommended me for the job opening then, I got the job and worked directly with the AA guy, he was a fantastic and smart guy and we became like family members, but for the few AA women l dated was something else, my experience with them will be a story for another day

TheEminentLaity:
Leave that Ugosample, ignorant AF. Do the so called 'mentally defeated' Nigerians in Nigeria behave as african americans do towards foreigners, even towards other africans amongst them? The guy hasn't lived in the US is here joining that ässwipe of Akata that insults the whole of Africa and Nigerians saying Nigerians and African Americans are the same. I'm sure where you live your life has not been threatened by Ivoriens neither have you been discriminated against.

You are most likely to be robbed, shot, stabbed or and discriminated against in the US by an Akata than any other person, ten times over. And it'll be one low-life scrounger for that matter. Dude is just online yapping rubbish. Shame on you for discrediting hardworking Nigerians and Africans in diaspora and in Nigeria comparing them that group of people. You think watching music videos, sports and 24 is the real america. Let's hope you eventually find yourself in america if you want to migrate and experience first hand or maybe your children then you may find out that even CIV and Nigeria may be safer to live in than many places in america.

Just look at him supporting a culturally lost and condescending low-life that was obviously derailing the topic, as if the thread is about developing Nigeria. Nigerians talking about immigrant experiences and preferences and a frustrated Akata comes here to insult all of us and tell blatant lies about 'very succesful' black americans. Someone who hasn't even seen anywhere else in the world, no foreign experience whatsoever to speak of and some of you commend those ignorant bigoted comments even against your kinsmen.

Nigeria bad Nigeria bad but don't fück with the resolve and resilience of Nigerians. We are everywhere and are breaking barriers and trailblazing regardless. So keep your self-hating 'black people are the same' crap to yourself. I know where I'm from and who my ancestors are and we are NOT like Akata in anyway.

Oh man

Eminent lady


Nigeria bad Nigeria bad but don't fück with the resolve and resilience of Nigerians. We are everywhere and are breaking barriers and trailblazing regardless. So keep your self-hating 'black people are the same' crap to yourself. I know where I'm from and who my ancestors are and we are NOT like Akata in anyway.


Nigerians generally are resilient people that is not in doubt
despite all we have gone through (especially as igbos) a good number of us rose above it

AA folks can learn that from us that's for sure


But let me flip the script
what we can also learn from them is the through the decades since 1920s
they were able to face theur oppressors and win their rights
on this count

Nigerians score F9

sassysure:
African Americans my people are trying so hard to emulate

Watch them in entertainment, very classless.
Use crude words, always naked, so fake and extreemly lazyset of people to behold.

I have watched entertainment across the world and theirs are yet to evolve, like naija
Serious countries don't like to invite them over cos they have nothing to show.
Watch Beyonce talk, so classless.
Nothing stops them from home schooling even as entertainers.
It's shaking fake bwest and asss up and down.
Always violent, shouting on top of their voices with entitlement mentality.

you are very funny .. You are so very true at the Bolded.. AA dont have family at all, when it comes to money issue they dont have family. I have seen first hand an older mum staying with her daughter but she must pay part of rent and bills . God forbid my mum comes to stay with me and she will be paying part of the rent. I have seen a lady throw her mum out in the cold cos they have a misunderstanding . I always laugh when they talk about their uncle and aunty cos within me i know when the time comes reverse is the case.

I have said this before i was at Missouri some months ago and i drove to an all white county, i went to a nearby walmart and it was very decent, the next day i drove to a county dominated by black, i went to the walmart an lo and behold i saw policement all round, sagging thugs, weird people it was a mess. My question is cant these peeps just act like a normal human being?

TheEminentLaity:
Leave that Ugosample, ignorant AF. Do the so called 'mentally defeated' Nigerians in Nigeria behave as african americans do towards foreigners, even towards other africans amongst them? The guy hasn't lived in the US is here joining that ässwipe of Akata that insults the whole of Africa and Nigerians saying Nigerians and African Americans are the same. I'm sure where you live your life has not been threatened by Ivoriens neither have you been discriminated against.

You are most likely to be robbed, shot, stabbed or and discriminated against in the US by an Akata than any other person, ten times over. And it'll be one low-life scrounger for that matter. Dude is just online yapping rubbish. Shame on you for discrediting hardworking Nigerians and Africans in diaspora and in Nigeria comparing them that group of people. You think watching music videos, sports and 24 is the real america. Let's hope you eventually find yourself in america if you want to migrate and experience first hand or maybe your children then you may find out that even CIV and Nigeria may be safer to live in than many places in america.

Just look at him supporting a culturally lost and condescending low-life that was obviously derailing the topic, as if the thread is about developing Nigeria. Nigerians talking about immigrant experiences and preferences and a frustrated Akata comes here to insult all of us and tell blatant lies about 'very succesful' black americans. Someone who hasn't even seen anywhere else in the world, no foreign experience whatsoever to speak of and some of you commend those ignorant bigoted comments even against your kinsmen.

Nigeria bad Nigeria bad but don't fück with the resolve and resilience of Nigerians. We are everywhere and are breaking barriers and trailblazing regardless. So keep your self-hating 'black people are the same' crap to yourself. I know where I'm from and who my ancestors are and we are NOT like Akata in anyway.

. I know where I'm from and who my ancestors are and we are NOT like Akata in anyway.

typical Nigerian

You think this makes you better than them?

it does not

You will never admit that this dumb shit we do goes two ways

African Americans thinking they are superior to Africans which they are not

And Africans like you (you have exposed yourself as oneof them) who think they are better than or superior to AA which obviously you are not


Let you and Akatawoman continue to gloat in emptiness on who is superior

probably that was how Diallo Amadou thought before he got the bullet from the racist police guys



CIV happens to be the place where my business is located
So I spend more time of the year there
I move from place to place and I have had my own encounters with AA and even where I used to live briefly in anothercountry, we lived in the same neighbourhood
(this country has a "right of return route for AAs this shoukd give you a clue)

From my own experience and exchanges with them, I have come to see things from a non biased perspective

A good AA from a good AA family is just as cool as a regular decent citizen

A ratchet one is a ratchet one and it's dangerous to associate with them

I even have AA cousins too..

So don't give me That crap of me having zero experiences with them

That is just my point

AngelicBeing:
Lol, l met few, dated few during my studentship Abroad, my immediate Supervisor / Manager was an AA, I volunteered in his organization and himself and 2 other women recommended me for the job opening then, I got the job and worked directly with the AA guy, he was a fantastic and smart guy and we became like family members, but for the few AA women l dated was something else, my experience with them will be a story for another day

the ones I lived with in my vicinity were largely decent people as well...

The same way I am offended when say a Ghanaian lumps we all as Nigerians as loud, criminal violent and untrustworthy due to a few Nigerians they met is the same way it makes zero sense to assume AA as a monolith are useless people inferiur to black Africans (Nigerians)

it's a dumb and stupid way to reason

I don talk plenty for this matter sef

kroger:


you are very funny .. You are so very true at the Bolded.. AA dont have family at all, when it comes to money issue they dont have family. I have seen first hand an older mum staying with her daughter but she must pay part of rent and bills . God forbid my mum comes to stay with me and she will be paying part of the rent. I have seen a lady throw her mum out in the cold cos they have a misunderstanding . I always laugh when they talk about their uncle and aunty cos within me i know when the time comes reverse is the case.

I have said this before i was at Missouri some months ago and i drove to an all white county, i went to a nearby walmart and it was very decent, the next day i drove to a county dominated by black, i went to the walmart an lo and behold i saw policement all round, sagging thugs, weird people it was a mess. My question is cant these peeps just act like a normal human being?

lmao

But let us think about this for a second tho

You cannot discount their history and the effects it has had

this is not making excuses for them
this is just the fact

And it leads me back to the mental defeat i have been saying since

your Destiny is in your own hands despite what has happened or did not happen (be it jim crow or slavery)

your destiny is in your own hands
only if many of them can realise that

those who have amongst them have done better for themselves

TheEminentLaity:
Leave that Ugosample, ignorant AF. Do the so called 'mentally defeated' Nigerians in Nigeria behave as african americans do towards foreigners, even towards other africans amongst them? The guy hasn't lived in the US is here joining that ässwipe of Akata that insults the whole of Africa and Nigerians saying Nigerians and African Americans are the same. I'm sure where you live your life has not been threatened by Ivoriens neither have you been discriminated against.

You are most likely to be robbed, shot, stabbed or and discriminated against in the US by an Akata than any other person, ten times over. And it'll be one low-life scrounger for that matter. Dude is just online yapping rubbish. Shame on you for discrediting hardworking Nigerians and Africans in diaspora and in Nigeria comparing them that group of people. You think watching music videos, sports and 24 is the real america. Let's hope you eventually find yourself in america if you want to migrate and experience first hand or maybe your children then you may find out that even CIV and Nigeria may be safer to live in than many places in america.

Just look at him supporting a culturally lost and condescending low-life that was obviously derailing the topic, as if the thread is about developing Nigeria. Nigerians talking about immigrant experiences and preferences and a frustrated Akata comes here to insult all of us and tell blatant lies about 'very succesful' black americans. Someone who hasn't even seen anywhere else in the world, no foreign experience whatsoever to speak of and some of you commend those ignorant bigoted comments even against your kinsmen.

Nigeria bad Nigeria bad but don't fück with the resolve and resilience of Nigerians. We are everywhere and are breaking barriers and trailblazing regardless. So keep your self-hating 'black people are the same' crap to yourself. I know where I'm from and who my ancestors are and we are NOT like Akata in anyway.

Boy!!!!!! I duff my hat for you sir you really nailed it. Its until you have seen it first hand then you can relate. Wetin musa never see for gate.

kroger:


Boy!!!!!! I duff my hat for you sir you really nailed it. Its until you have seen it first hand then you can relate. Wetin musa never see for gate.

So.in other words, my own experiences with AA does not count right?

AngelicBeing:
Lol, l met few, dated few during my studentship Abroad, my immediate Supervisor / Manager was an AA, I volunteered in his organization and himself and 2 other women recommended me for the job opening then, I got the job and worked directly with the AA guy, he was a fantastic and smart guy and we became like family members, but for the few AA women l dated was something else, my experience with them will be a story for another day

Lucky u o!

Both their men and women are the same as far as I'm concerned. Of course there are exception but majority carry the vote.

@ Kroger, nothing puts me off like loud people.
I mean, these guys are damn too loud, i dont live in US but I have read so much about them and compared them with other races in US.
U are right, they are never their brothers keeper.
I vowed never to watch any of their movies again as u can't watch them around kids, u don't learn anything except fk u, fk u, fk u,bitchess, bitchis, nigaaa, nigaaa etc

What am.i going to do with all that?

kroger:


Boy!!!!!! I duff my hat for you sir you really nailed it. Its until you have seen it first hand then you can relate. Wetin musa never see for gate.

Musa have seen it all

Is 'AAs can learn from us and we can learn from them' the same as 'blackman na blackman? and we are all 'self-destructive' ? As if race is anything to go by. If you don't know, race has no biological or scientific basis and is merely a social construct so if you think just because someone is black, the person is your kinsman and is self-destructive then ride alone in your dystopia don't bring up such nonsense here like it's some fact.

There have been and are numerous brave, great and illustrious AA men and women worthy of emulation, and we don't call those ones Akata by the way; even so this thread isn't about them. It is about migration to the US and experiences. I think I responded when more people were continuing to shįt on Europe as if the US is x100 better.

Nigerians fought for independence and were part of the civil rights movement. Nigerians also greatly supported the movement against apartheid in RSA. I guess now you don't see the Shiites fighting for their freedom despite being killed by the government of the day. People are surviving and thriving in Nigeria and are fighters but you disrespect them bundling them with Akatas.

As for what I've learnt from Akata? it is to be wary of them and approach with caution, but I don't see myself in America anytime in the future.

This america talk don tire me. Go to america if you want, read somewhere that there are 300 millions guns in circulation. Good luck with your endeavour, let me leave this link here. For illegals, if you think this couldn't be you then think again because I don't see illegals living in midtown manhattan.

https://abc7ny.com/cab-driver-shot-in-head-body-found-on-brooklyn-street/5421529/
https://www.legit.ng/1225572-27-year-nigerian-uber-driver-stabbed-death-new-york.html

All this year, and these are things that New Yorkers get used to, untimely demise. Well you can say people die and are going to die anyway, Yes! and true but the rate in the US would shock and literally blow you out of the water for many of you here shitting on Europe Una never chee chomchin.

Ugosample:


Oh man

Eminent lady Laity


Nigeria bad Nigeria bad but don't fück with the resolve and resilience of Nigerians. We are everywhere and are breaking barriers and trailblazing regardless. So keep your self-hating 'black people are the same' crap to yourself. I know where I'm from and who my ancestors are and we are NOT like Akata in anyway.


Nigerians generally are resilient people that is not in doubt
despite all we have gone through (especially as igbos) a good number of us rose above it

AA folks can learn that from us that's for sure


But let me flip the script
what we can also learn from them is the through the decades since 1920s
they were able to face theur oppressors and win their rights
on this count

Nigerians score F9

sassysure:

Lucky u o!

Both their men and women are the same as far as I'm concerned. Of course there are exception but majority carry the vote.

@ Kroger, nothing puts me off like loud people.
I mean, these guys are damn too loud, i dont live in US but I have read so much about them and compared them with other races in US.
U are right, they are never their brothers keeper.
I vowed never to watch any of their movies again as u can't watch them around kids, u don't learn anything except fk u, fk u, fk u,bitchess, bitchis, nigaaa, nigaaa etc

What am.i going to do with all that?

Don't forget that the thread is about Nigerian migrants going to the US. Your experience is not that relevant to the theme. I have also met a number of decent ones in professional circles and trust they are many, we see them on TV as well, but the majority in the US which the illegal migrants from Nigeria may experience, are the issue here; and the truth is even those AAs avoid the Akatas (I differentiate them)

Besides, let's not pretend like profiling is extraneous concept shall we? We as Nigerians, until we start using our second passports, are subjected to extra vetting, checks and visa hurdles when travelling but even so Akata way still dey burst our medulla some of us never see that kind lifestyle before

And it is not about being better or worse than them but I take offence being grouped with them having lived in the US, even though I'm sort of a lone ranger type of dude that would rather deal with individuals. Na as you bundle us together wey bring talk, I was talking about US and Europe before you bring Akata matter inside. But still me and my people no be like them, our values are so different. You don't have to like it but it's true.

Ugosample:


So.in other words, my own experiences with AA does not count right?

TheEminentLaity:
Don't forget that the thread is about Nigerian migrants going to the US. Your experience is not that relevant to the theme. I have also met a number of decent ones in professional circles and trust they are many, we see them on TV as well, but the majority in the US which the illegal migrants from Nigeria may experience, are the issue here; and the truth is even those AAs avoid the Akatas (I differentiate them)

Besides, let's not pretend like profiling is extraneous concept shall we? We as Nigerians, until we start using our second passports, are subjected to extra vetting, checks and visa hurdles when travelling but even so Akata way still dey burst our medulla some of us never see that kind lifestyle before

And it is not about being better or worse than them but I take offence being grouped with them having lived in the US, even though I'm sort of a lone ranger type of dude that would rather deal with individuals. Na as you bundle us together wey bring talk, I was talking about US and Europe before you bring Akata matter inside. But still me and my people no be like them, our values are so different. You don't have to like it but it's true.

owww

I see


I will most likely be moving to Canada /U.S. in the next two years plus.....
the sort of business I do tho it's somewhat lucrative, is not what I'll do for the long term

may be ill try this express entry thing

my French and English is very very good
That should count....


And I see what you did there

differentiating between AA and Akata

if that is the case
then you have an argument

Besides, let's not pretend like profiling is extraneous concept shall we? We as Nigerians, until we start using our second passports, are subjected to extra vetting, checks and visa hurdles when travelling but even so Akata way still dey burst our medulla some of us never see that kind lifestyle before

about this....

to use this naija passport don tire me

my last trip to Istanbul was just

more reason why I have to move to Canada ASAP

two years

getting the passport there is not so difficult

Canada is better in my opinion and since you speak English and French you'll be as Canadian as Celine Dion. The EE allows you almost full status and rights as a citizen and it is a much better country to live in, for raising or relocating your family. The Canadian EE gives you the equivalent of a US Green Card and unless you have a minimum of $500k to $1m (heard Trump's administration increased it to ) to invest in the US, you're only going to get a US visa at best which limits you legally. What you do illegally is between you and ICE until you change status.

All the best! but if you go yankee no follow Akata o

Ugosample:


owww

I see


I will most likely be moving to Canada /U.S. in the next two years plus.....
the sort of business I do tho it's somewhat lucrative, is not what I'll do for the long term

may be ill try this express entry thing

my French and English is very very good
That should count....


And I see what you did there

differentiating between AA and Akata

if that is the case
then you have an argument

Besides, let's not pretend like profiling is extraneous concept shall we? We as Nigerians, until we start using our second passports, are subjected to extra vetting, checks and visa hurdles when travelling but even so Akata way still dey burst our medulla some of us never see that kind lifestyle before

about this....

to use this naija passport don tire me

my last trip to Istanbul was just

more reason why I have to move to Canada ASAP

two years

getting the passport there is not so difficult

Sirmuel1:



Keep deceiving yourself.
If you were a citizen in Canada, you won't talk this way

God have mercy.

TheEminentLaity:
Canada is better in my opinion and since you speak English and French you'll be as Canadian as Celine Dion. The EE allows you almost full status and rights as a citizen and it is a much better country to live in, for raising or relocating your family. The Canadian EE gives you the equivalent of a US Green Card and unless you have a minimum of $500k to $1m (heard Trump's administration increased it to ) to invest in the US, you're only going to get a US visa at best which limits you legally. What you do illegally is between you and ICE until you change status.

All the best! but if you go yankee no follow Akata o

thanks a lot

I've been reading and making my research on EE sha

And I used to dream that I'll raise $500k for investment (EB5 )

But it is a tall order

I will most likely get EE in future

Canada kpali no go bad at all

The level of disdain and inability to show compassion for each other that was displayed here is EXACTLY why the black race will NEVER be one. Akatawoman was wrong and I can say this as an AA, as well as some of you. Some of the things I've encountered and witnessed firsthand whilst being in Nigerian circles here in American, well..
Both sides are hurling mud, when there are no clear winners here.

And another thing, some of y'all need to know when you are being trolled.

Backfornow:
The level of disdain and inability to show compassion for each other that was displayed here is EXACTLY why the black race will NEVER be one. Akatawoman was wrong and I can say this as an AA, as well as some of you. Some of the things I've encountered and witnessed firsthand whilst being in Nigerian circles here in American, well..
Both sides are hurling mud, when there are no clear winners here.

And another thing, some of y'all need to know when you are being trolled.

lmao

you have said it all

there is no point hurling mud at each other

we all black folks
branches of the same tree

Hmmmm

sassysure:
Watch Beyonce talk, so classless.

How Exactly is she classless when she talks?