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R2bees:
I Couldn't have said it better. Someone was even saying signing Coutinho would limit Ozil game time or Auba if played on LW. And so fuckinng what? We want consistent results, not flopping against top 6 teams only to dance when celebrating a goal versus 18th placed team in the League..

Wenger has made many feel we are a small football side, If Ozil can't compete/ convince, he should see the bench or leave, If Auba wants to be missing chances, joking all day after v scoring brace against 17th placed team, then he should see the bench for laca, This is not lovers or friends gathering, it is pure business, fans,owners and everyone has invested largely, we need results..
Imagine how confident and anxious fans will be seeing, Auba,pepe,ozil,coutinho,laca,ceballos and iwobi on squad travelling to Etihard?
Enough to start and on bench, good selection headache..
Compared to seeing Mhichy,nketiah,willock,Martinelli, Nelson,
p.sThose youngsters are good but aren't ready for heavy battles and won't excite fans even at st James park.

Spy360:
For me, the problem with most players is not absence of skill or ability but mentality and poor psychology. Mustafi falls into this category.

Defenders like DeLigt, McGuire, VVD are of the mould of Ferdinand and Vidic, Adams, etc. They are not there for their skills but the mentality and the attitude they bring to the team. That is why managers make them captains.

Defending is not stats, it's an attitude.

That's it bro, our defenders are either shaky,tired or scared...The defenders you sighted are hard tough terrorist on the battle, they are ready to put their body on anything that comes...
It is either we get those bully type of defenders or we bring in someone like Simeone to come instill ruggedness in them.

R2bees:
I know many would disagree with me, but i think defenders are overrated most especially Center backs. When you have players that than can take on opponents and a stable/tough tackling midfielders. Trust me it would be hard for opponents to get to our defence. If we can pull off Coutinho and Tierney without a CB i won't get mad. Unless we need a cover for Kolscieny if he finally joins Bordeaux.

Unpopular opinion I also share, look at barca,city,PSG and Bayern, I don't rate their defence as an A or B, just a C IMO.
What those teams have is a very deadly forward with defenders ability to hold and shield the Ball well... See pique, he isn't good on one on one, but when he gets the ball, he can't be dispossessed unless you foul him..
City defenders are ballplayers, Barca's are attackers except umtiti.
With a good attack burying chances after chances, midfield and defenders passing and guarding the ball well, Defenders are on holiday.

Fkhalifa:
Unpopular opinion I also share, look at barca,city,PSG and Bayern, I don't rate their defence as an A or B, just a C IMO.
What those teams have is a very deadly forward with defenders ability to hold and shield the Ball well... See pique, he isn't good on one on one, but when he gets the ball, he can't be dispossessed unless you foul him..
City defenders are ballplayers, Barca's are attackers except umtiti.
With a good attack burying chances after chances, midfield and defenders passing and guarding the ball well, Defenders are on holiday.

I swear bro. You'd be surprised two Xhaka at CB + Pepe and Coutinho in the setup would win us league. Liverpool almost won the league by just scoring more than the opposition. The Suarez sturridge sterling season. Clyne lovren klavan Moreno at the back

BlueRayDick:
Well, since u already said he is good player I don't think we should be having a long argument over what u said immediately after that.

He's a good player that has made mistake in the past season. Guendouzi is a young player that made his own share of mistakes but we are being told he is still young and still developing. Mitland-Niles made errors too but we hear excuses like he is not a RB so we can't be too hard on him. Xhaka is a fine player that makes mistakes too but he usually win us game points with his rocket shots one of which left de gea rooted to a spot.

I guess the reason the hammer is dropping on mustafi is cos there's no excuse foe his bad run of games.

.... Exactly bro, no hard feelings for Mustafi.

Fkhalifa:
Unpopular opinion I also share, look at barca,city,PSG and Bayern, I don't rate their defence as an A or B, just a C IMO.
What those teams have is a very deadly forward with defenders ability to hold and shield the Ball well... See pique, he isn't good on one on one, but when he gets the ball, he can't be dispossessed unless you foul him..
City defenders are ballplayers, Barca's are attackers except umtiti.
With a good attack burying chances after chances, midfield and defenders passing and guarding the ball well, Defenders are on holiday.

Bro, don't let the fact that these teams concede against 'big' teams fool you that there defense is not good. Apart from A. Madrid, Barca has consistently had the second or third best defense in the league.

Man for man, A. Madrid backline is not better than Barca's, but due to DS's system, they're all look like Goliaths.

Since Pep took over City he has not dropped out top 3 defense in the league, Liverpool only beat them by one goal last season.

In the last four years or more, no team in Germany has a better defense than Bayern, as in, no team comes close.

In the last five years, PSG has a better defensive record than any other team, losing out twice by three goals.

Bro, if you really think these guys only have a 'C' ranked defense, then truly I'm surprised.

Fergie famously said, "Attackers win you games, but defenders win you titles."

To me, I don't think he is wrong.


Buying Coutinho is not a bad idea, but it would be reckless if we don't plan to strengthen our photos defense, first.

I've read, let's win games buy 6-5, 10-9.... My answer to that is, what if we meet a rugged defense? What next? We score 1, and they score 3 or 4.

Somebody mentioned Rodger's Liverpool, they had everything except the defense to win the league. They scored 101 Gail's and conceded 50!!! City on the other hand scored 102 and conceded 37.

Imagine what would have happened if they had a better defense that year?

If we setting up to attack, attack and attack this year, I'll enjoy bit as much as any other arsenal fan. But, at the back of my mind, I'd expect some thorough thrashing along the way.

P.s. you have a right to your opinion, bro. And, this is not an attack, I'm just stating my opinion, too.

MrDojo:
Bro, don't let the fact that these teams concede against 'big' teams fool you that there defense is not good. Apart from A. Madrid, Barca has consistently had the second or third best defense in the league.

Man for man, A. Madrid backline is not better than Barca's, but due to DS's system, they're all look like Goliaths.

Since Pep took over City he has not dropped out top 3 defense in the league, Liverpool only beat them by one goal last season.

In the last four years or more, no team in Germany has a better defense than Bayern, as in, no team comes close.

In the last five years, PSG has a better defensive record than any other team, losing out twice by three goals.

Bro, if you really think these guys only have a 'C' ranked defense, then truly I'm surprised.

Fergie famously said, "Attackers win you games, but defenders win you titles."

To me, I don't think he is wrong.


Buying Coutinho is not a bad idea, but it would be reckless if we don't plan to strengthen our photos defense, first.

I've read, let's win games buy 6-5, 10-9.... My answer to that is, what if we meet a rugged defense? What next? We score 1, and they score 3 or 4.

Somebody mentioned Rodger's Liverpool, they had everything except the defense to win the league. They scored 101 Gail's and conceded 50!!! City on the other hand scored 102 and conceded 37.

Imagine what would have happened if they had a better defense that year?

If we setting up to attack, attack and attack this year, I'll enjoy bit as much as any other arsenal fan. But, at the back of my mind, I'd expect some thorough thrashing along the way.

P.s. you have a right to your opinion, bro. And, this is not an attack, I'm just stating my opinion, too.

more oil to your head bros, I don't understand why we need coutinho at the moment when our defence is like veteran ashewo toto

MrDojo:
Bro, don't let the fact that these teams concede against 'big' teams fool you that there defense is not good. Apart from A. Madrid, Barca has consistently had the second or third best defense in the league.

Man for man, A. Madrid backline is not better than Barca's, but due to DS's system, they're all look like Goliaths.

Since Pep took over City he has not dropped out top 3 defense in the league, Liverpool only beat them by one goal last season.

In the last four years or more, no team in Germany has a better defense than Bayern, as in, no team comes close.

In the last five years, PSG has a better defensive record than any other team, losing out twice by three goals.

Bro, if you really think these guys only have a 'C' ranked defense, then truly I'm surprised.

Fergie famously said, "Attackers win you games, but defenders win you titles."

To me, I don't think he is wrong.


Buying Coutinho is not a bad idea, but it would be reckless if we don't plan to strengthen our photos defense, first.

I've read, let's win games buy 6-5, 10-9.... My answer to that is, what if we meet a rugged defense? What next? We score 1, and they score 3 or 4.

Somebody mentioned Rodger's Liverpool, they had everything except the defense to win the league. They scored 101 Gail's and conceded 50!!! City on the other hand scored 102 and conceded 37.

Imagine what would have happened if they had a better defense that year?

If we setting up to attack, attack and attack this year, I'll enjoy bit as much as any other arsenal fan. But, at the back of my mind, I'd expect some thorough thrashing along the way.

P.s. you have a right to your opinion, bro. And, this is not an attack, I'm just stating my opinion, too.

I understand your point and that's the reason I said that opinion is unpopular and many will disagree..

If you're rating their entire defence performance on goals conceded and trophies, it's okay,but I don't want to believe it was the defenders in those top teams doing incredible defensive duties,in fact its largely as a result of massive qualities they've got in attack, ability to posses and wingers pinning opponents back, if you see lots of this big teams, weaker teams don't attack them.

See barca, teams hardly get to their box, pique overlaps anyhow, semedo and Alba mount pressure on opponents, I don't see them sweating like Simeones' men.. Those are defenders..

Arsenal's attempt to attack teams like barca,Liverpool,Bayern city is the reason why we lose with a cricket score, Chelsea, utd will rather keep it tight with more men behind the back and rely on counters to score..
The moment thies teams face an equally or better attackers, they also concede in large, The following fixtures comes to mind:
barca vs Bayern. Liverpool, city. Barca vs PSG, barca vs Liverpool, barca vs roma ...but against average attacks, they dominate and keep you off the ball..

Barca over the years do not have man to man better defenders than Madrid..

Teams like Madrid,juve and Chelsea rely on individual defensive effort to survive, Ramos,varane,Terry,vidic,ferdinand,Godin,kompany,koscv.dijk are examples, stones, pique,Alves,Alaba,boateng et all are ball playing types who keeps you off the ball ..
but city,barca and PSG, its majorly ability to guard and posses the ball well which prevents opposition from even getting the ball..

Schezney, Kosc and mert benefited from this in 2014 or 15, we had the golden glove that year, this isn't because they were genius, we had players in carzola,Sanchez, rosckiy, coq et Al who are good at keeping the ball..

Ferguson played traditional defenders, Rodgers team bottled it on match 37th at crystal palace, surely, defensive weakness will show but its a sign you can go far, I mean if Auba,laca and pepe can be ruthless and score as much as many chances, 3-0 at half time would have settled the defenders Nerves, should they attempt to attack us in numberd for equalizer, we kill them more on the counter..

I'm for us getting defenders but for lack of funds to to that, I believe with quality forwards who can break teams down,our defenders can fair well this year,and we bring in A class CB next summer like Liverpool did.

Allison 75m price tag have expired
The guy go chop joy die this season

Meanwhile,
Arsenal players went to watch ST Tiene and came back with Saliba,We played Madrid and we got Cabellos, we played Angers and we signed Pepe..we now going to Barca, we surely coming back with Umtiti or Coutinho..we can't play them for free...

Raul/ Edu get this done.

Fkhalifa:
Meanwhile,
Arsenal players went to watch ST Tiene and came back with Saliba,We played Madrid and we got Cabellos, we played Angers and we signed Pepe..we now going to Barca, we surely coming back with Umtiti or Coutinho..we can't play them for free...

Raul/ Edu get this done.

Pepe was angers formal player before going to lille

Fkhalifa:
Meanwhile,
Arsenal players went to watch ST Tiene and came back with Saliba,We played Madrid and we got Cabellos, we played Angers and we signed Pepe..we now going to Barca, we surely coming back with Umtiti or Coutinho..we can't play them for free...

Raul/ Edu get this done.

Who won't still win a spoon this year ?



ARSENAL
NEXT YEAR IS OUR YEAR FC

Look how city celebrated the shield and said they won 4 trophies last season but if it's arsenal those hypocrite pundits will say it's a friendly match

iamoyindamola:
Look how city celebrated the shield and said they won 4 trophies last season but if it's arsenal those hypocrite pundits will say it's a friendly match

its a moral boost. Would have loved Liverpool to win.

kokaneprodigy:
its a moral boost. Would have loved Liverpool to win.

is it a trophy or not?

chain..see as dem dey play dis ones for preseason...

Of course it is, I’m saying would have loved them to lose that would erode their confidence a little

iamoyindamola:
is it a trophy or not?

Alba!! nice goal.

kokaneprodigy:
Of course it is, I’m saying would have loved them to lose that would erode their confidence a little

okay now I get your point

Auba is a poacher sha

Baka Sabi pull crowd sha 98000 on top friendly match

iamoyindamola:
Auba is a poacher sha

Later that bros go still come here tell us say Auba dey score tap-in's

Just look at Niles

kokaneprodigy:
Just look at Niles

Emery doesn't have excuse this season at all
If he failed he's gone cos I still don't know what that idiot is doing in RB

I honestly don't know if I should blame Mustafi, but come on...Suarez was obviously unmarked.

Considering the troubling views that have been argued for about our defense on this thread over the last 24 hours, I will keep my opinion(s) to myself.

Barcelona 2-1 Arsenal

Fkforyou:
I honestly don't know if I should blame Mustafi, but come on...Suarez was obviously unmarked.

of course he enters and Suarez scored what a coincidence, na thunder go strike the idiot if he come back to Emirates

It's safe to say the 2 goals conceded were our doing sane with half of the goals we conceded last season.
Some things never change sha

iamoyindamola:
of course he enters and Suarez scored what a coincidence, na thunder go strike the idiot if he come back to Emirates

I am seriously fuming here too...



Sokratis would have spotted Suarez... This is something a basic defender should have...

If I talk am now dem go say person no like the boy, but this is someone that sees what I've been saying in the past season

BlueRayDick:
If I talk am now dem go say person no like the boy, but this is someone that sees what I've been saying in the past season

now it's your turn before spy360 say na me hate the boy pass

BlueRayDick:
If I talk am now dem go say person no like the boy, but this is someone that sees what I've been saying in the past season

Torreira, Ceballos, Willock is the way forward man..



No hard feelings