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Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by Nobody: 6:36pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
johnydon22: OK please can you think about it and let me know which you prefer? Thanks Be honest in your reply |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by johnydon22(m): 6:39pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
NLmember:I just have. I actually don't know since it is still not something I consider or feel is important at all. It is like asking me if I prefer a woman whose favourite color is red or one whose favourite color is pink. I don't fu_cking know cus the factors listed are insignificant to my choice on that particular issue 3 Likes |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by Nobody: 7:02pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
johnydon22: Really? Compassion and kindness are a part of conscience Animals sometimes show compassion to each other Animals in the wild So when animals show compassion it means they were informed by a prevailing moral provision which was learned by the animal? |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by Nobody: 7:03pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
johnydon22: Stories I know what your choice is though |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by LordReed(m): 7:11pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
NLmember: If you were only looking for confirmation of your pet hypothesis you shouldn't have bothered starting the thread. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by hakeem4(m): 7:20pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
hucknall:atheism is amoral. it does not tell you what is right or wrong |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by shadeyinka(m): 7:31pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
NLmember:Prove it? Do animals have conscience? Conscience depend on the knowledge of right and wrong. Where there is no law, there is no sin. |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by johnydon22(m): 8:10pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
NLmember: I never knew that you come preinstalled with omniscience. I guess, life surprises me everyday. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by johnydon22(m): 8:10pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
hakeem4: True statement 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by johnydon22(m): 8:14pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
NLmember: Actually No, because you are assuming that animal's behavior is controlled by a sense of right and wrong which is a baseless claim at best. Conscience requires a sense/basic graps of the concepts of right - wrong. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by Nobody: 9:21pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
johnydon22: Well now you know |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by Nobody: 9:23pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
LordReed: Hmmm? How? When you guys kept shying away from answering the question I had to answer it for you. |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by LordReed(m): 10:11pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
NLmember: And when we do answer you dismiss it and hold on to your preconceived notions. Did you come to learn about atheists or to confirm what you already believe? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by hucknall: 12:20pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
hakeem4:Yeah, leaves you to decide your own right and wrong. which will always be selfish. |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by hucknall: 12:37pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
johnydon22:you managed to exclude it from religion. Let's not go to that side. these standards are set by powers and submission is achieved through fear and when you fail to abide you are punished right? |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by LordReed(m): 12:40pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
hucknall: All moral systems are inherently selfish. They always embody the ideals of the group formulating it.That's why you don't think killing an animal is bad, you are looking out for your own (human) group.and why the Israelites could justify making slaves of other tribes, they were looking out for themselves. 9 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by hucknall: 1:06pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
LordReed:'looking out for themselves' as an atheist you look out for only yourself. 1 Like |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by johnydon22(m): 1:48pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
hucknall:Actually I didn't. Religion falls under these: 3. Belief in a central authority 4. Shared imaginary order/belief Not necessarily. There are moral requirements that are not an obligation hence bears no legal implications. P.s: Remember the premise you trying to prove here is that an atheist cannot be moral. It is taking quite a long time to. |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by johnydon22(m): 1:49pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
hucknall: LMAO Morality can't exist in isolation my dude. |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by LordReed(m): 1:56pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
hucknall: I look out for myself and others as any good moral system should, trouble is how far does the looking out for others go. You think your religious framework provides for an extensive reach but in reality it fails when it encounters certain issues. Slavery for one, your bible supports. People had to override bible beliefs to outlaw slavery. |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by hopefulLandlord: 4:03pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
shadeyinka:this shows you have no idea what "survival of the fittest" means. most Christians I've come across don't either |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by Sheunma: 4:41pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
NLmember:i dig the way you qualified the christian woman though, " liberal and open minded." you are simply saying being a christian isnt good enough. I doubt very much though that a woman who is liberal and open minded would bẹ christian. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by shadeyinka(m): 5:09pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
hopefulLandlord:Dear Professor hopefulLandlord, You should have first defined the term/phrase "survival of the fittest" before beating your chest in self glory. After all, I didn't define it for you to conclude it's a wrong definition. Conscience depend on the knowledge of right and wrong and where there is no law, there is no sin. The rule of morality isn't self determined and without a rule that guides us "survival of the fittest" is the only rule. Is your problem the realisation that you as an atheist still carry the relics of religion? |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by shadeyinka(m): 5:13pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
Sheunma:With an opportunity to commit a perfect murder, your Atheist wife will do the needful and move on with her life. Your hardcore Christian wife knows that there is no perfect crime under God. What you sow is what you reap! |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by Nobody: 5:16pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
hucknall:That's a lie Sir! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by shadeyinka(m): 5:20pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
LordReed:The German soldiers at the end of the second world war served as what in USSR, USA and Britain as what!? If there is a third world war, do you think the same will happen to the looser? Please learn and understand: There are different forms of slavery starting from house helps to gladiators. All men should be free irrespective of their race, color and nationality however, slavery will always exist. That is why you have a class of people called Civil Servants |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by hopefulLandlord: 7:28pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
shadeyinka:nah, I'm an illiterate You should have first defined the term/phrase "survival of the fittest" before beating your chest in self glory. After all, I didn't define it for you to conclude it's a wrong definitionthat's not necessary as your use of it betrays your total lack of knowledge about what it means. |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by LordReed(m): 7:35pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
shadeyinka: Irrelevant. Your bible supports slavery, period. |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by shadeyinka(m): 9:49pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
LordReed:Caught in your own web! Close your ears and eyes by screaming "irrelevant"! The truth you want to avoid remain before you unyielding. |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by shadeyinka(m): 10:00pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
hopefulLandlord:Ok! Dear Illiterate Professor hopefulLandlord, True to your nature, It's actually not a surprise that you jump to conclusions before having sufficient data and information. Your illiteracy isn't in reading and writing, but in major aspects of deductions required in acquisition of wisdom. Total information is not necessary as far as you are concerned: for your mind is already made up. |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by hucknall: 10:09pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
johnydon22:what are they? some examples will do I know I'm taking it slow in order to avoid misunderstanding. |
Re: Atheist/irreligious Men Tell The Truth.... by hucknall: 10:10pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
johnydon22:to be clear, you guys are saying is there are no personal moral. |
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