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LordReed:
So the following passages are not punishments by Yahweh?

Numbers 14
21 Nevertheless, as surely as I live and as surely as the glory of the Lord fills the whole earth, 22 not one of those who saw my glory and the signs I performed in Egypt and in the wilderness but who disobeyed me and tested me ten times— 23 not one of them will ever see the land I promised on oath to their ancestors. No one who has treated me with contempt will ever see it.
26 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron: 27 “How long will this wicked community grumble against me? I have heard the complaints of these grumbling Israelites. 28 So tell them, ‘As surely as I live, declares the Lord, I will do to you the very thing I heard you say: 29 In this wilderness your bodies will fall—every one of you twenty years old or more who was counted in the census and who has grumbled against me. 30 Not one of you will enter the land I swore with uplifted hand to make your home, except Caleb son of Jephunneh and Joshua son of Nun.

Numbers 21
4 They traveled from Mount Hor along the route to the Red Sea,[c] to go around Edom. But the people grew impatient on the way; 5 they spoke against God and against Moses, and said, “Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? There is no bread! There is no water! And we detest this miserable food!” 6 Then the Lord sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died.

jesusjnr:
So of what use is your believing in God to God whom you say you believe in?

For now you hardly preach about Him or help His cause, but seems like you're fighting against Him and those who do what you're supposed to be doing.

So your fruits justify what I said there,

God bless

Anas09:
And you are helping his cause as you twist scriptures and plant errors abi?

Which Cause are you even talking about? At least we know Frosbel2, but you are here declaring thar the Church of Jesus Christ is dead.

In other words, you just declared that Jesus Christ is dead. because the body of a man cannot die while his head is lives on.

How are you helping the cause of Jesus eh Mr Nicolai?

jesusjnr:
Look at this witch trying to feign concern for the lost in futility, as if you care the least about souls because your mischief was called out.

Be there foolishly calling the dead church with witches like you who Satan has planted inside it Christ's body, when Christ and the full compliment of His body is in sitted in heavenly places.

You want to drag Christ name into your witchcraft and mammon worshipping, but it's dead on arrival as you can clearly see.

Anas09:
Principles LordReed, Principles.
And, from all the verses you posted, if you check, you wld see the word ' Disobey', and you'd know that obedience or disobedience comes with a choice. The freedom to choose and then what follows follow.

The same Choice which was presented to Adam in Eden. Obey and live, disobey and die.

If you don't take my warnings seriously why accuse me if you get the consequences of your actions?

Anas09:
No, He didn't lie.
And thank you for bringing up this scripture.

Do you remember when God told Adam not to eat of the fruit in Eden?
What did He say wld happen to Him if he disobeyed? Death.

To the right is a Tree of Life, eat and live for ever. he was not barred from each eating from it. He didn't.

To the left, is the Tree of knowledge. If you eat from it, you die. Did he obey God? No. Did he die yes. Both physically and spiritually. For, he activated the law of Sin and Death which, curses works to bring about.

LordReed, what happened in Egypt didn't begin in Egypt, it began in Eden. What happens today, didn't begin 2000yrs ago. It began in Eden.

Serve satan and die, did the Egyptians hear? No.
So, God warned the Israelites and said 'Look at the Egyptians, if you go their way (Of serving satan), the power which activated those curses on them, wld come on you too and you too wld be destroyed like them.

It's an eternal principle man. The Law of the Divine Design had patterned it so right down from the Algorithm of the earth's foundation.
The choice you make works for you.
You don't blame the person who drew up the Algorithm.

I hope this is not too high for you tho.

jesusjnr:
Lol!
You don't even know who Christ is, if not you would not have asked this question to someone whose moniker Is synonymous with the Words of Christ.

jesusjnr:
But your witchcraft has so blinded your eyes, that you can't see how impossible it is for someone to emphasize the teachings of Christ to the rare degree i do and yet be an Antichrist[/quote[
Which teachings of Christ do you emphasize? And, which rare degree are you talking about? Do you emphasize them here ir outside?

See this proud demon possessed man talking about emphasing the Teachjngs of Jesus.
Where did you see the teachings of Jesus Which you claim to emphasize since you don't believe in the Bible as the Word of God?

[quote author=jesusjnr post=81656691]And consequently why it is impossible for you to oppose someone who does that, and not be an Anti-christ.

LordReed:
When I say you invoke Satan all the time, you'll disagree, yet here we are. Satan was not mentioned in any of the passages I cited.

LordReed:
Yahweh says he will bring about retribution but you are insisting Yahweh is lying by mentioning Satan, when he categorically says he Yahweh, will accomplish a thing. Was it Satan who brought snakes to kill the Israelites?

LordReed:
If you say it was, then you have said the scriptures are false.

LordReed:
I don't see how you can justify belief in these scriptures if you cannot even agree to their veracity.

Anas09:
In other words you are equal with Jesus?
So, If i knew who Christ is I wld have known that you are at Par with Him?
Heresy. Only satan will compare himself with God. Even Moses or Apostle Paul never tired this. Woe unto you Jesusjnr.

You are Jesus but declare Your body is dead? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Go back to the psychiatric hospital you escaped from.

Anas09:
But idols were mentioned abi?
The Lord of Reeds, There are two opposing powers in the Spirit realm, The Kingdom of Light and Christ as God, the kingdom of darkness and satan as the head. if you obey one, you automatically disobey the other. If we disobey Christ, who wld we be obeying? If we turn from Light where we will be if not darkness? Lolzz.


Feel free to call God a liar, it won't be your first time tho.

I have explained principles of Cause and Effect, (sowing and reaping) to you, but if you insist on going your way, fine.


Actions has consequences my dear LordReed.

If your Dad were a Chemist who manufactured Gamalin20, and he told you it's poisonous and wld kill you if you drank it, would you call him wicked if you disobey him and drink it?

The Laws of Life and death are presented before us, choose. You, trying to spin it 360° won't change anything. My God can never lie.

Man has disobeyed and is still disobeying His laws, so, we shd enjoy the consequences.


I completely believe in what they say. God made those laws and will not hesitate on bringing their consequences down on anyone who provokes them on themselves. Just like He will not hesitate to bless those who obey him.

LordReed:
Madam there was no mention of idols in the passages I quoted and they had nothing to do with idols either.

LordReed:
Stop changing the subject. There is nothing in those passages about Satan, you are the one injecting Satan into the matter thereby making your Yahweh a liar and rendering your scriptures unreliable.

LordReed:
You are eager to believe your Yahweh blesses you but you are quick to call on Satan as the author of misfortune.[/quote
Am I wrong to? Pls prove to me that he is not the author of misfortunes.
[quote author=LordReed post=81663975]That reveals your motivations quite clearly.

Anas09:
Oga, so the Egyptians didn't worship idols okwaya? And God wasn't warning the Islraelites not to disobey by Worshiping idols?
When Moses performed miralces with the power if YHWH the magicians did theirs. Which power did they use? W
When God said in Exd 12:12 that He wld judge the gods of Egypt Which gods was He referring to?


I guess the Magicians were working for Jehovah while opposing Moses.
Exodus 12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.
Aren't the gods of Egypt Idols (According to Jehovah)? You are so funny the way you argue.

Anas09:
You know me too well. My motivations are quite clear, no fear of favour. I am an unapologetic believer and follower of Jesus of Nazareth. If I die I discover I wasted my time believing in Him on earth, then let His fate be mine too. But what the Word says He is, is what I believe and will die believing.

LordReed:
You like the blessings part of your Yahweh stories but the curses part reveals how much of a crazy god you believe in so you shift those parts to Satan so that you can believing in a benevolent god.

Anas09:
Lol. No I love all parts of YHWh. The Judgment and Justice.

Choose ye this day...

LordReed:
Another attempt to change the subject. I didn't quote Exodus 12, I quoted Exodus 15 and it has nothing to do with idols, magicians, magic, other gods or Satan.

I stay on track while you always want to deflect to something else. Instead of treating Exodus 15 that I quoted you quote something else and you are calling me funny. LMFAO.

Anas09:
Exodus 15:26 And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, [and wilt do] that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, [and keep all his statutes], I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee.

You dey see at all?

Look at the parentheses, "do" and "keep", they are talking abt obeying God's laws. I have always told you that the law of Cause and Effect is already embedded in the Algorithm of the Divine Design upon which the earth is founded on, hence it brings down the hand of the Lord to bear on who chooses what.

Before Adam was created this law was waiting for him. Choose freely. If you choose good, I will give you good. If you choose death I will give you death.

The Egyptians chose death, I gave it to.them, if you act like them the curses which brought abt their death I shall bring them to bear in your life too.
Ask and you shall receive works both ways.

How hard is this to grasp?

LordReed:
How does this answer the question I asked you?

LordReed:
Good, so stop bringing up Satan when a nasty trait of your god gets called out.

Anas09:
Oh. I will bring him in alright because he is like a roaring lion looking for whom to devour.
he has fallen so he wants everyone fallen like him.

Anas09:
Lol. As if you'd ever admit to the answer I give as answering your question.

LordReed:
I just asked you how it does.

LordReed:
Thank you once again for admitting you are always bringing up Satan. Now you won't squirm when I point it out.

Anas09:
Just Negodu? I dey fear to admit am before?

So long as we are still alive and Jesus hasn't come, we shall continue to talk abt satan until he gets cast off into the Lake of fire.

Anas09:
How what does?