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Emusan:
Where in that verse wasn't it stated that the ONE LORD was appointed?

Its clear enough, all things are FROM him. If you have issues Read Act 2:36 for clearance. To omit Jesus and his Lordship is to make the verse a Lie.

The same verse read "...and ONE LORD Jesus Christ by whom ARE ALL THINGS..." so ALL THINGS included Jesus Himself bah

You are not making sense, except all things are ONLY through Jesus, which is not true.

All things are not only from the Father, they are By/through him as well . Begs the question: why ? Jesus himself came from him and through him . .

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Barristter07:
Its clear enough, all things are FROM him. If you have issues Read Act 2:36 for clearance. To omit Jesus and his Lordship is to make the verse a Lie.

You are not making sense, except all things are ONLY through Jesus, which is not true.

All things are not only from the Father, they are By/through him as well . Begs the question: why ? Jesus himself came from him and through him .

Show me where in that verse that says the ONE LORD was appointed.....you haven't done that!

If not because your brain is paining you:

ALL THINGS ARE FROM THE FATHER
ALL THINGS ARE THROUGH JESUS

If your deluded brain can't see the correlation sorry I can't help you.

Barristter07:
Humans will partake divine nature. does that nor make them equal to God ?

quote the full verse including the verse that came before it. Only gullible peoples will fall into this your foolish trap

( forgetting your initial logic was a human son and Father are equal by nature as human being, yet the son was a partaker of that nature by virtue of his Father )

Yes, depends on what partaking in a nature mean.

If U rate them equal by nature. Why are u now running from equating those partaking divine nature with God ?

You don enter one chance

the question is, what does Peter mean by partaking in the divine nature?
Care to answer?

Like he possess the ability to know day and hour ?

Its beginning to clear even Jesus didn't own this nature

Emusan:
@1)
Show me where in that verse that says the ONE LORD was appointed.....you haven't done that!


@2)
If not because your brain is paining you:

ALL THINGS ARE FROM THE FATHER
ALL THINGS ARE THROUGH JESUS

If your deluded brain can't see the correlation sorry I can't help you.

@1) Acts2:36, does Emusan believe it?
Have you removed Acts of the Apostles from the holy Scriptures?

Acts 2:36, God his Father appointed him.

". Assuredly, therefore, let all the house of
Israel know, that both Lord and Christ did
God make him "

@2)
John14:28
"You heard Me say, ‘I am going
away, and I am coming back to you.’ If you
loved Me, you would rejoice that I am going
to the Father, because the Father is greater
than I. "


John 7:33
"So Jesus said, "I am with you only a little
while longer, and then I am going to the One
who sent Me."

John 10:29
"My Father who has given them to Me is
greater than all."

** Emusan, Lie, lie Pharisee.
Your Jesus is the Father ,see your FICTITIOUS correlation.
My Questions:
If Jesus is the Father, John7:33, who is he going to be with?
Can you go leave your place of dwelling and go visit yourself?

John14:28, Since he is the father,can Jesus be greater than himself?

John10:29, "my Father is greater than ALL, excludes who?

I'm not sorry I can't help you......

Emusan:
Show me where in that verse that says the ONE LORD was appointed.....you haven't done that!

You didn't Deny he was appointed. Good move

FROM WHOM ALL THINGS ARE, Jesus himself and his Lordship. Excluding those make the verse a lie

Was Act 2:36 erased from your Bible ?

If not because your brain is paining you:

ALL THINGS ARE FROM THE FATHER
ALL THINGS ARE THROUGH JESUS

If your deluded brain can't see the correlation sorry I can't help you.

Which correlation ? Someone came from the other, does that not put a limit on the extent of All things in the second instance.

To prove it's Limited.

ALL things are Through the Father too , Why ?? What came through the Father ? Romans 11:36 .

solite3:
quote the full verse including the verse that came before it. Only gullible peoples will fall into this your foolish trap

Yes, depends on what partaking in a nature mean.

the question is, what does Peter mean by partaking in the divine nature?
Care to answer?

You really want to be disgraced

Having the Divine Nature , any objection ?

If humans have the same nature with God, aren't they equals ?

Jesus did Jesus tell you he does not know?

Matt 24:36 , was he lying only the Father knows ?

Barristter07:
You really want to be disgraced

Having the Divine Nature , any objection ?

If humans have the same nature with God, aren't they equals ?

refer back to my previous replies.

Matt 24:36 , was he lying only the Father knows ?

He wasnt lying, Jesus having a human nature means he could limit his knowledge to some things so as to fulfill his mission.
There are some things left to the fathers authority and one of those things is the date of his coming.

solite3:
quote the full verse including the verse that came before it.

Wow!

They're all suffering from the same kind of brain problem!

I remember one so called Pastor who kept hammering on just two words in one verse to condemn alcoholic beverages, but with my quotation which ran through three consecutive verses from the same chapter, oga Pastor said we should start reading from verse one to the end in order for him to be sure of the correlation. Whereas to support his claim he quoted just two words in one single verse. He never cared to check or even read through the complete verse to know if he's misapplying the words!

solite3:
refer back to my previous replies.

Will humans partake of the DIVINE NATURE ?

He wasnt lying, Jesus having a human nature means he could limit his knowledge to some things so as to fulfill his mission.
There are some things left to the fathers authority and one of those things is the date of his coming.

I saw it coming

Oniro buruku [Liar ] , how come holy spirit doesn't know If truly what hinders him is the human nature ?

Then he doesn't have the same Capacity with the Almighty if he doesn't know some things, agree ?

Maximus69:
Wow!

They're all suffering from the same kind of brain problem!

I remember one so called Pastor who kept hammering on just two words in one verse to condemn alcoholic beverages, but with my quotation which ran through three consecutive verses from the same chapter, oga Pastor said we should start reading from verse one to the end in order for him to be sure of the correlation. , Whereas to support his claim he quoted just two words in one single verse. He never cared to check or even read through the complete verse to know if he's misapplying the words!

They are hypocritical .

solite3:
refer back to my previous replies.


He wasnt lying, Jesus having a human nature means he could limit his knowledge to some things so as to fulfill his mission.
There are some things left to the fathers authority and one of those things is the date of his coming.

Jesus have to limit HIS KNOWLEDGE to some things!

But the same Jesus remembered all other things about his father's house! John 14:6

Walahi Talahi ko ni ragba feni to da aba TRINITY!

Barristter07:
They are hypocritical .

But what do they stand to gain?

Is it just to prove they're also reading the Bible?

Because all these things they're saying, i'm just hearing it for the first time. If you ask other sincere and honest hearted Trinitarians, you'll discover they're empty!

I've been attending Church programs of the Methodists [the church that owns the school] from primary 4!

So how come it's only Jehovah's Witnesses that has succeeded in equipping all their members with complete knowledge of what should be known?

Barristter07:
Will humans partake of the DIVINE NATURE ?



I saw it coming

Oniro buruku [Liar ] , how come holy spirit doesn't know If truly what hinders him is the human nature ?

Then he doesn't have the same Capacity with the Almighty if he doesn't know some things, agree ?

The is group included men, angels, the Son and the father , the holy Spirit is not included so it does not mean the holy Spirit does not know.
You have started your name calling again instead of attacking issues.

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

ableguy:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Trinitarians please explain verse 6, 9,10&11.

solite3:
The is group included men, angels, the Son and the father , the holy Spirit is not included so it does not mean the holy Spirit does not know.
You have started your name calling again instead of attacking issues.

@ Matthew 24:36 (KJV)

{But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels but my father only!}

Hello Mr Trinitarian,how many PERSONS could be referred to as ONLY?

solite3:
The is group included men, angels, the Son and the father , the holy Spirit is not included so it does not mean the holy Spirit does not know.
You have started your name calling again instead of attacking issues.

"Only my Father knows"
For emphasis : the word "ONLY" excludes Holy Spirit.

Solite3 confess this truth joor. You're in a tight corner.

Janosky:
"Only my Father knows"
For emphasis : the word "ONLY" excludes Holy Spirit.

Solite3 confess this truth joor. You're in a tight corner.

what does the word only mean?

solite3:
what does the word only mean?

I suppose ONLY mean 'no other entity apart from that one'

If the Father, Jesus and holy spirit are different parts of the three Godheads yet forming one God as we've heard from Trinitarians, then he couldn't have referred to three persons as ONLY!

TATIME:
I suppose ONLY mean 'no other entity apart from that one'

If the Father, Jesus and holy spirit are different parts of the three Godheads yet forming one God as we've heard from Trinitarians, then he couldn't have referred to three persons as ONLY!

lying false jw tatime
what is this "three godheads" nonsense you are talking about?
does God's Word talk about three godheads or one Godhead?


Col_2:9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

in Jesus dwells the Father and the Holy Spirit (and Jesus also is part of that Godhead, john1:1, plus many more scriptures showing that Jesus is God) do you want to see them again?
many scriptures show that the Holy Spirit is God

ableguy:
Trinitarians please explain verse 6, 9,10&11.

oh duh, the verses are plain and clear and need no explanation, for instance verse 6 means
Jesus considered Himself equal to His Father, just like the verse shows

now seeing as you think the verses mean other than what they say
you tell me what you think they should mean

Barristter07:
You didn't Deny he was appointed. Good move

FROM WHOM ALL THINGS ARE, Jesus himself and his Lordship. Excluding those make the verse a lie

Was Act 2:36 erased from your Bible?

Imagine....Jesus Himself was part of ALL THINGS yet the same ALL THINGS are THROUGH Jesus...

Meaning Jesus was THROUGH Himself.....very foolish reasoning.

I know if it was easy for you, you people would have inserted word like "OTHER" just as you did to other verses.

Which correlation ? Someone came from the other, does that not put a limit on the extent of All things in the second instance.

To prove it's Limited.

ALL things are Through the Father too , Why ?? What came through the Father ? Romans 11:36

This is to show that you lack scriptural understanding, now you also know that ALL THINGS ARE THROUGH THE Father too...it's so obvious with your satanic doctrine how you people always make The Father and Jesus to at war with each other by dragging power and position when the scripture is so plain about it.

If ALL THINGS ARE THROUGH both the Father and Jesus isn't that an evidence that both are One?

Jesus said ALL THE THINGS the Father has BELONG TO HIM...does this means Jesus belongs to Himself....

Brainwashed JWs everywhere....

Emusan:
Imagine....Jesus Himself was part of ALL THINGS yet the same ALL THINGS are THROUGH Jesus...

Meaning Jesus was THROUGH Himself.....very foolish reasoning.
Brainwashed JWs everywhere....

@bolded

The Bible explained that JEHOVAH created Jesus as his first work {Proverbs 8:22 compared to John 1:1} but after that he started instructing Jesus on how to do the remaining {Genesis 1:3-27}, please take note of the one speaking and the other person responding/acting on the instructions Sir!

So after JEHOVAH created Jesus as his first born child, he used Jesus as the craftsman to create all other things! {Proverbs 8:30} and whatever God used Jesus to create has the touch of the son in it so the Father (JEHOVAH) was happy as his son (Jesus) kept doing everything perfectly, therefore he declared that everything belongs to this only begotten son {Colossians 1:15-16} as long as he continues to be obedient to his father who gave him everything! 1Corinthians 15:27-28

I think this is not too hard for anyone to grasp, since humans who also had sons/daughters do build up business empires with either their son or daughter and promise that such hard working child will inherit everything as long as they're working hard to keep the company growing! John 5:17

The only thing that brings joy to such a father is the fact that his son/daughter has taken up his industrious spirit! Philippians 2:11

TATIME:
I suppose ONLY mean 'no other entity apart from that one'

If the Father, Jesus and holy spirit are different parts of the three Godheads yet forming one God as we've heard from Trinitarians, then he couldn't have [/b]]referred to three persons as ONLY! [/b]

at bolded there you are wrong Jesus was not showing distinction among the persons of the trinity but among other false gods.

solite3:
at bolded there you are wrong Jesus was not showing distinction among the persons of the trinity but among other false gods.

I supposed his so called friends (John 15:15) asked him a very important question that's disturbing their minds, and if truthfully Jesus himself is part of the so called THREE Godheads he should be in the best position to tell them either (1) We're not to disclose it. (2) It will cause some problems for you later.

But rather Jesus said ONLY the father knows and earlier before then he said the God of Israel is ONE God. Mark 12:29
Moreover Jesus said the same thing when they asked him the same question later! Act 1:7

No Sir, it's either Jesus is not a part of any Trinity, or he must be lying to his friends. And the Bible said the holy one of Israel CANNOT lie. Titus 1:2
So Jesus totally differs from that person who knows it all! Daniel 2:20

TATIME:
I supposed his so called friends (John 15:15) asked him a very important question that's disturbing their minds, and if truthfully Jesus himself is part of the so called THREE Godheads he should be in the best position to tell them either (1) We're not to disclose it. (2) It will cause some problems for you later.

But rather Jesus said ONLY the father knows and earlier before then he said the God of Israel is ONE God. Mark 12:29
Moreover Jesus said the same thing when they asked him the same question later! Act 1:7

No Sir, it's either Jesus is not a part of any Trinity, or he must be lying to his friends. And the Bible said the holy one of Israel CANNOT lie. Titus 1:2
So Jesus totally differs from that person who knows it all! Daniel 2:20

I just love Jehovah's Witnesses and their higher intellect!

Please Tatime, is this what Jesus meant by saying the spirit will teach you how to answer critics? Luke 12:11-12

Maximus69:
Tell him to get different versions of the Bible and real Proverbs 8:22 with meditation.

Then let him come back and tell everyone that Adam had no beginning because it's written that he was also God's son! Luke 3:38

Then you'll hear much more worthless, useless and thoughtless logics from TRINITARIANS!

True, I bet you he will not respond becos it will expose him.

solite3:
a servant or a master who is greater?

So who is the master and who is the Servant. God or Jesus,?

solite3:
Jesus humbled himself to that position.



Philippians 2:7
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Really.
You just picked the portion that suits your fantasy.
Let me ask you a question did God beget Jesus or not ?

solite3:
Jesus be the only begotten Son of God is not a literal word.

at bolded, golden
God the father is not a higher God than Jesus did you see.
As for ther things you wrote, that is because we are human but God is not.
Like begat like
If the farher has no beginning then the son has no beginning. Fact!

Your argument is baseless.
Humans give birth to Humans, Lions give birth to Lions,Snakes give birth to snakes. it is logical for God to give birth to a God but that does not negate the fact that the one who gave birth to the other is older and greater than the one given birth to this is simple logic your trinity doctrine has beclouded your senses.

solite3:
you are just going in circles

Why did the Bible say Jesus is the begetton son of God?