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OpenYourEyes1:
2. James Watson and Francis crick: the DNA strand legends.[b]

"In fact, in a 2004 interview, Gerrod Harker recalls talking with Dick Kemp — a close friend of Crick's — about LSD use among Cambridge academics, and tells the Daily Mail that the University's researchers often used LSD in small amounts as "a thinking tool." Evidently, Crick at one point told Kemp that he had actually "perceived the double-helix shape while on LSD."
https://io9.gizmodo.com/10-scientific-and-technological-visionaries-who-experim-5876304

Note that LSD is hallucinogenic drug.
They most likely were taking the drugs to open their eyes"and solve a puzzle given to them by "secret elites

3. Alexander Fleming: discovery of antibiotics

"Sir Alexander Fleming was initiated into Sancta Maria Lodge No 2682, London in 1909 and was a Past Junior Grand Warden of the United Grand Lodge of England in 1942."
https://www.masons.org.au/relevance/stories/1769-alexander-fleming.html


4. Michael faraday: electromagnetism and electrolysis
Achemides: centre of gravity and the laws that govern pulley and carrying objects

Michael Faraday lived in a home made for 3rd degree Mason (Master Mason House). Whether he was a Mason or not, I don't know. He is portrayed as a good Christian by some websites.


5. Mari curie: radioactivity

"But I was particularly fascinated to learn about the Curies' earlier connection with the occult. Marie and Pierre, along with many other scientists and great thinkers of their day, were intrigued by psychics and seances. They attended evenings hosted by the notorious Eusapia Palladino, a medium who was popular among the intellectuals in Paris. As Redniss writes"
https://www.wired.com/2011/07/review-radioactive-a-tale-of-love-and-fallout/


6. Thomas Edison: electricity generation

"Edison revolutionized Scientific Progress itself through creating the first industrial research laboratory.
He also invented a telephone to talk to the Dead": http://www.the13thfloor.tv/2016/11/01/five-famous-scientists-who-dabbled-in-the-occult/

Edison and the Theosophical society
https://theosophy.wiki/en/Thomas_Alva_Edison
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophical_Society

7. Louis Pasteur: my favorite. Microbial fermentation, pasteurization and vacinnation..

8. Graham Bell: telephone

His brother was a freemason

I don't what to believe number 7 was part of them so I didn't bother researching him.

1StopRudeness:
Insulting and disrespecting someone faith is insulting a person...since u know how to do that, go and try it in fet of a mosque...
You ddnt read what the OP wrote or as usual u ddnt comprehend it.....he isn't complaining....he's informing and sensitizing....but I already know u lordreed, ur level of comprehension can't decode that in the OP's message.
.ur level of reasoning is quite popular on nairaland shebí u know..

Yeah like this NL is your church. LMAO. I will tell any Muslim off who brings stupid ideas out to the public in the name of religious belief.

The OP is a serial conspiracy theorist and this is just one the religious coated conspiracy theories of his. Since he has decided to include your god in the matter then your god bears the brunt. If you can't stand it then stop bringing harebrained ideas to the public because be sure they will garner ridicule.

LordReed:
OMFG! This is hilarious, you don't want to trade words with me but decided to jump down my throat. Was it not you who first quoted me here and even insulted me? LMFAO!

It's not about seeing or hearing the person you strongly asserts doesn't exist Sir!

We are deliberating on a global phenomenon affecting everyone whether believer or unbeliever.

Try to comport yourself in order to make a meaningful contribution when humans like yourself are putting heads together in a bit to find a solution to a problem.
That's not the time to start agitating over assertions that you're opposed to!

Education gives birth to knowledge and knowledge should produce wisdom, so if with all your education you can't make any meaningful contribution during a public discuss of this kind other than agitating over someone {God} who chosen not to speak with you, then you're nothing but an idiot!

So instead of complaining about God who won't speak with you, why not try make a meaningful contribution so that those who keeps claiming a God exist somewhere can see for themselves that there's no reason holding on to their worthless God, when you who discards the idea of an invisible God has solved the problem on ground? Of course, right thinking persons will join you to fetch wisdom from the sources where you got it!

But when people are discussing about "A" just for you to appear and start parading "Z" is a proof that you're not close to intelligence in anyway. It's a clear sign of buffoonery Sir!

Maximus69:
It's not about seeing or hearing the person you strongly asserts doesn't exist Sir!

We are deliberating on a global phenomenon affecting everyone whether believer or unbeliever.

Try to comport yourself in order to make a meaningful contribution when humans like yourself are putting heads together in a bit to find a solution to a problem.
That's not the time to start agitating over assertions that you're opposed to!

Education gives birth to knowledge and knowledge should produce wisdom, so if with all your education you can't make any meaningful contribution during a public discuss of this kind other than agitating over someone {God} who chosen not to speak with you, then you're nothing but an idiot!

So instead of complaining about God who won't speak with you, why not try make a meaningful contribution so that those who keeps claiming a God exist somewhere can see for themselves that there's no reason holding on to their worthless God, when you who discards the idea of an invisible God has solved the problem on ground? Of course, right thinking persons will join you to fetch wisdom from the sources where you got it!

But when people are discussing about "A" just for you to appear and start parading "Z" is a proof that you're not close to intelligence in anyway. It's a clear sign of buffoonery Sir!

It is only paining you because you have no single shred of evidence for your Yahweh. You can pretend all you like but that is the bare faced fact.

LordReed:
Yeah like this NL is your church. LMAO. I will tell any Muslim off who brings stupid ideas out to the public in the name of religious belief.

The OP is a serial conspiracy theorist and this is just one the religious coated conspiracy theories of his. Since he has decided to include your god in the matter then your god bears the brunt. If you can't stand it then stop bringing harebrained ideas to the public because be sure they will garner ridicule.

This is why i keep saying you're not getting it right!

You're not seeing the people discussing neither can you accurately read their minds, but with some meaningful contributions you can strike them really hard to the point that they'll like to know the source of superior wisdom{higher intellect}.

Take note of the way i do sneak into threads. Many would have been carried away with my comments only to discover later that the one possessing such wisdom is none other than one of the most vilified religious group {Jehovah's Witnesses}.

Jesus said "sin against the son of man will be forgiven" meaning if i behave or does anything that's common and you insulted, abused or cursed me, God won't hold you responsible for that.
But "sin against the holy spirit will NEVER be forgiven" meaning if you choose to insult, abuse or curse me for doing something that you're sure only God's holy spirit can engineer, then it means you are deliberately trying to bury fine works. No God will never forgive such sins! Luke 12:10

You can only beat someone claiming Christian with his own reasoning! If you prove to be better or wiser than them. But be rest assured that when you come face to face with a true Christian {Jehovah's Witness} you will be silenced with all your education! Isaiah 54:17

The only thing that will happen if you try to speak further is buffoonery as in saying things that's of no intelligence! Job 5:13

Sorry that i keep quoting the words of my invisible God, but i can't just help it without showing you how i became much more intelligent in reasonableness than a Professor like you Sir!

LordReed:
Yeah like this NL is your church. LMAO. I will tell any Muslim off who brings stupid ideas out to the public in the name of religious belief.

The OP is a serial conspiracy theorist and this is just one the religious coated conspiracy theories of his. Since he has decided to include your god in the matter then your god bears the brunt. If you can't stand it then stop bringing harebrained ideas to the public because be sure they will garner ridicule.

You funny..I don’t have a problem with ur insults or ridicule ....infact they are funny to me..it’s the guys taking out precious to explain to u I’m CO’s they don’t know you....
.but one thing can’t be ignored and that’s what maximus69 said... human relation is the problem of the world... and this is where it all begins.. hating what the next man does and not tolerating the next mans belief, Muslims killing infidels, countries killing each other....dats what drove Adolf H. to killing millions of jews..
anyways at least we agree on one thing.. the op has some conspiracy .. and I’ve told him that...

LordReed:
It is only paining you because you have no single shred of evidence for your Yahweh. You can pretend all you like but that is the bare faced fact.

@bolded Sir.

It's not about PAIN, it's silencing those who feels too big for our God to tame!

1StopRudeness:
You funny..I don’t have a problem with ur insults or ridicule ....infact they are funny to me..it’s the guys taking out precious to explain to u I’m CO’s they don’t know you....
.but one thing can’t be ignored and that’s what maximus69 said... human relation is the problem of the world... and this is where it all begins.. hating what the next man does and not tolerating the next mans belief, Muslims killing infidels, countries killing each other....dats what drove Adolf H. to killing millions of jews..
anyways at least we agree on one thing.. the op has some conspiracy .. and I’ve told him that...

No! No!! No!!! Sir. I've known LordReed for almost a year plus now on NL, but i just leave him to keep deceiving himself until one day when he invited me to one of his worthless threads that i put him in his place by making him to understand that true Christians don't just talk for fun. We talk with motives! 1Corinthians 9:26

He feels like he's on top insulting the person he cannot see or speak with, but behold a witness of that ONE is here and ready to prove that Professor LordReed is empty regarding WISDOM!

So he can continue crying for all i care!

OpenYourEyes1:
2. James Watson and Francis crick: the DNA strand legends.[b]

"In fact, in a 2004 interview, Gerrod Harker recalls talking with Dick Kemp — a close friend of Crick's — about LSD use among Cambridge academics, and tells the Daily Mail that the University's researchers often used LSD in small amounts as "a thinking tool." Evidently, Crick at one point told Kemp that he had actually "perceived the double-helix shape while on LSD."
https://io9.gizmodo.com/10-scientific-and-technological-visionaries-who-experim-5876304

Note that LSD is hallucinogenic drug.
They most likely were taking the drugs to open their eyes"and solve a puzzle given to them by "secret elites

3. Alexander Fleming: discovery of antibiotics

"Sir Alexander Fleming was initiated into Sancta Maria Lodge No 2682, London in 1909 and was a Past Junior Grand Warden of the United Grand Lodge of England in 1942."
https://www.masons.org.au/relevance/stories/1769-alexander-fleming.html


4. Michael faraday: electromagnetism and electrolysis
Achemides: centre of gravity and the laws that govern pulley and carrying objects

Michael Faraday lived in a home made for 3rd degree Mason (Master Mason House). Whether he was a Mason or not, I don't know. He is portrayed as a good Christian by some websites.


5. Mari curie: radioactivity

"But I was particularly fascinated to learn about the Curies' earlier connection with the occult. Marie and Pierre, along with many other scientists and great thinkers of their day, were intrigued by psychics and seances. They attended evenings hosted by the notorious Eusapia Palladino, a medium who was popular among the intellectuals in Paris. As Redniss writes"
https://www.wired.com/2011/07/review-radioactive-a-tale-of-love-and-fallout/


6. Thomas Edison: electricity generation

"Edison revolutionized Scientific Progress itself through creating the first industrial research laboratory.
He also invented a telephone to talk to the Dead": http://www.the13thfloor.tv/2016/11/01/five-famous-scientists-who-dabbled-in-the-occult/

Edison and the Theosophical society
https://theosophy.wiki/en/Thomas_Alva_Edison
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophical_Society

7. Louis Pasteur: my favorite. Microbial fermentation, pasteurization and vacinnation..

8. Graham Bell: telephone

His brother was a freemason

Oga... so ur conclusion is that all the inventions of the world is from the devil...??
..u seem saturated by conspiracy theories and fallacy driven ideas....I have explained to u the source of all wisdom and knowledge and how need drove them into existence and also how it is possibly influenced for evil and corrupted.as far as man allows it with biblical reference.....man is the problem of this world...... what we don’t allow doesn’t happen....

but I guess ur mind is too far down the hole of Lucifer

1StopRudeness:
You funny..I don’t have a problem with ur insults or ridicule ....infact they are funny to me..it’s the guys taking out precious to explain to u I’m CO’s they don’t know you....
.but one thing can’t be ignored and that’s what maximus69 said... human relation is the problem of the world... and this is where it all begins.. hating what the next man does and not tolerating the next mans belief, Muslims killing infidels, countries killing each other....dats what drove Adolf H. to killing millions of jews..
anyways at least we agree on one thing.. the op has some conspiracy .. and I’ve told him that...

Oh they they know me alright. They know I don't insult people until I am given reason to, which usually is when someone insults me and given reasonable latitude I will respond in kind. Did I insult any of you? No but you did and I have given you that latitude, you may not find it so pleasant the next time.

Nothing of the OP speaks of this human problem, the OP is all about how technology is of the devil which is a seriously harebrained idea. If anyone is trying to find solutions to our collective problems, it is we humans, no gods or devils are involved.

Maximus69:
@bolded Sir.

It's not about PAIN, it's silencing those who feels too big for our God to tame!

In your dreams can you silence me. You plus your impotent god can do as much as a dead rat.

Maximus69:
This is why i keep saying you're not getting it right!

You're not seeing the people discussing neither can you accurately read their minds, but with some meaningful contributions you can strike them really hard to the point that they'll like to know the source of superior wisdom{higher intellect}.

Take note of the way i do sneak into threads. Many would have been carried away with my comments only to discover later that the one possessing such wisdom is none other than one of the most vilified religious group {Jehovah's Witnesses}.

Jesus said "sin against the son of man will be forgiven" meaning if i behave or does anything that's common and you insulted, abused or cursed me, God won't hold you responsible for that.
But "sin against the holy spirit will NEVER be forgiven" meaning if you choose to insult, abuse or curse me for doing something that you're sure only God's holy spirit can engineer, then it means you are deliberately trying to bury fine works. No God will never forgive such sins! Luke 12:10

You can only beat someone claiming Christian with his own reasoning! If you prove to be better or wiser than them. But be rest assured that when you come face to face with a true Christian {Jehovah's Witness} you will be silenced with all your education! Isaiah 54:17

The only thing that will happen if you try to speak further is buffoonery as in saying things that's of no intelligence! Job 5:13

Sorry that i keep quoting the words of my invisible God, but i can't just help it without showing you how i became much more intelligent in reasonableness than a Professor like you Sir!

LMFAO! Kai you can humblebrag like no other. They should give you special award for humblebraging.

You have not shown anything called wisdom except to stylishly introduce your JW cult where ever you can.

Maximus69:
No! No!! No!!! Sir. I've known LordReed for almost a year plus now on NL, but i just leave him to keep deceiving himself until one day when he invited me to one of his worthless threads that i put him in his place by making him to understand that true Christians don't just talk for fun. We talk with motives! 1Corinthians 9:26

He feels like he's on top insulting the person he cannot see or speak with, but behold a witness of that ONE is here and ready to prove that Professor LordReed is empty regarding WISDOM!

So he can continue crying for all i care!

Bwahahaha! Look at you with your crocodile tears and delusions of grandeur. LMFAO! You have no answers but a string of gibberish you mistake for sense.

1StopRudeness:
Oga... so ur conclusion is that all the inventions of the world is from the devil...??
..u seem saturated by conspiracy theories and fallacy driven ideas....I have explained to u the source of all wisdom and knowledge and how need drove them into existence and also how it is possibly influenced for evil and corrupted.as far as man allows it with biblical reference.....man is the problem of this world...... what we don’t allow doesn’t happen....

but I guess ur mind is too far down the hole of Lucifer

Now you call this a conspiracy theory just like that... Just like the "people at the top" who are desperately fighting to bury the truth both in the church and in the world. But when the truth is eventually proven not to be a conspiracy, they hastily stir up distractions/big news that may trend for days hoping to bury the truth with the long distractions.
Why do you not counter the above list with proofs instead of tagging it a "conspiracy theory"? Are the so called scientists doing the right thing by using mind-altering drugs, belonging to secret societies or seeing the dead

Do you believe the god of this world is satan?

Do you think this current technological progress will end well for mankind?

Do you believe the progress is funded by the occult and does not come from anything related to one true GOD?

Have you ask yourself why many scientists and their funders are rebellious to the CREATOR? Doesn't that remind you of the Tower of Babal?

Well, it is hard to understand how the struggle to survive on earth or to conquer the curses on sinners/earth with life-extension drugs, cars, aircrafts, large homes, laptop, TV, internet etc is not from GOD. But we will eventually know the truth when the damages has been done on us and our planet.

Remember the story of Daniel? Daniel remained holy., never accepted nebuchadnezzar's food. He ate vegetables instead of the food from Babylon and he was healthier than others. I bet most Isrealites in Babylon in those days did not observe this important dietary law. They probably became like the Babylonians.

According to the Book of Eunuch, Weapons of war were taught to mankind by fallen angels before the flood. Isreal eventually use thesame weapons to fight their enemies with the help of GOD. Do you know why GOD allowed the weapons? Because everything belongs to him, the battles were justified and he lead the Isrealites. But consider that those who make this technologies today are rebellious people. So it clearly not from GOD same way tower of babal was not of GOD.

Our world is repeating the mistakes of pre-flood people. They built great technologies with the help of lucifer and his angels. It Was not of GOD. The technologies eventually cause them to be evil and violent and THE ALMIGHTY had to step in and destroyed that world. Satan is trying to recreate that world today. GOD bless you my friend. I don't have any human enemy to fight.

OpenYourEyes1:
Now you call this a conspiracy theory just like that... Just like the "people at the top" who are desperately fighting to bury the truth both in the church and in the world. But when the truth is eventually proven not to be a conspiracy, they hastily stir up distractions/big news that may trend for days hoping to bury the truth with the long distractions.
Why do you not counter the above list with proofs instead of tagging it a "conspiracy theory"? Are the so called scientists doing the right thing by using mind-altering drugs, belonging to secret societies or seeing the dead

Do you believe the god of this world is satan?

Do you think this current technological progress will end well for mankind?

Do you believe the progress is funded by the occult and does not come from anything related to one true GOD?

Have you ask yourself why many scientists and their funders are rebellious to the CREATOR? Doesn't that remind you of the Tower of Babal?

Well, it is hard to understand how the struggle to survive on earth or to conquer the curses on sinners/earth with life-extension drugs, cars, aircrafts, large homes, laptop, TV, internet etc is not from GOD. But we will eventually know the truth when the damages has been done on us and our planet.

Remember the story of Daniel? Daniel remained holy., never accepted nebuchadnezzar's food. He ate vegetables instead of the food from Babylon and he was healthier than others. I bet most Isrealites in Babylon in those days did not observe this important dietary law. They probably became like the Babylonians.

According to the Book of Eunuch, Weapons of war were taught to mankind by fallen angels before the flood. Isreal eventually use thesame weapons to fight their enemies with the help of GOD. Do you know why GOD allowed the weapons? Because everything belongs to him, the battles were justified and he lead the Isrealites. But consider that those who make this technologies today are rebellious people. So it clearly not from GOD same way tower of babal was not of GOD.

Our world is repeating the mistakes of pre-flood people. They built great technologies with the help of lucifer and his angels. It Was not of GOD. The technologies eventually cause them to be evil and violent and THE ALMIGHTY had to step in and destroyed that world. Satan is trying to recreate that world today. GOD bless you my friend. I don't have any human enemy to fight.

I agreed with u in the area that the devil influences man to use God given knowledge and wisdom wrongly. But the devil doesn’t give technology....it’s need and brainstorming that drives tech.... I used internet and pornographyy as an example.. why do u think the devil in charge of Persia intercepted the angel bringing the prophesy of the future to Daniel...because they too want to know what the future holds...u think If the devil was smart and saw all the angles he would have killed the Jesus knowing fully well humanity’s redemption is hidden right there in the death and Jesus would have the chance to go silence the boast of sin and hades for us...the devil isn’t a custodian of knowledge, he’s not ominopitent, he isn’t everywhere at the same time... he’s almost like u and I only with angelic prowess and better experience since he’s been around for a while..
U are asking me to counter your claims... there’s nothing to counter cos all u provided above are conspiracy theory...they are not different from the theories that the earth is flat and not revolving... it’s fallacy, how can u say just becos I smoked weed and came up with the cure of HIV means the devil gave it to me...and it’s the weed that gave it to me..how do I know God ddnt give it to me before.. when I was in college come and see enuf drug users and weed smokers that were numbskulls

It’s like u think humanity is incapable of nothing...humanity ddnt think of anything, there was no need driving man towards development, tech and development was just given to us by Lucifer..
Now let me ask u... how come Lucifer ddnt bring tech wisdom to us Africans, why is it that it’s only the whites... since u refuse my explanation of necessity and drive to survive in the harsh weda conditions of the whites made them brainstorm better than us...
The most important thing is that all humanity should surrender to God and be led by his spirit.. technology isn’t the problem.... ordinary hands that’s God given can be used to strangle a fellow man if I allow the devil use me...did devil give me the hand..??
Yes!!! The devil controls the world, that’s because the mind of man is self-serving, greedy and always seeking to gratify the Desires of the flesh...and that’s why the devil uses flesh- edifying inspiration to drive our mind so when we think of techs we build techs to kill each other, rape each other, commit adultery, but still these techs are simultaneously used for good... is there any good in the devil?? Weed /cannabis is used to stimulate the brain and distort the mind..but also used in medical applications, doesn’t that mean the devil made weed.
Therefore all tech knowledge was meant for good initially given by God before they bcame corrupted.... peace be unto u man!!!!

OpenYourEyes1:
Now you call this a conspiracy theory just like that... Just like the "people at the top" who are desperately fighting to bury the truth both in the church and in the world. But when the truth is eventually proven not to be a conspiracy, they hastily stir up distractions/big news that may trend for days hoping to bury the truth with the long distractions.

Even when it is proven to be true another set rise up and proclaim it as conspiracy theory and the cycle continues. The best thing is to sit down, think, observe, accept what you know is really true and allow the truth proves itself with the passage of time.

OpenYourEyes1:
Why do you not counter the above list with proofs instead of tagging it a "conspiracy theory"? Are the so called scientists doing the right thing by using mind-altering drugs, belonging to secret societies or seeing the dead

My brother everyone belongs to different school of thought. You choose to accept these claims of yours because you believe the author while your opponents also choose theirs. Counteraattack does not prove truth only time bro. Time bro.

Mind altering drugs you say? Or drugs used to correct psychotropic problems? BTW which of all the secret societies are in charge of these drugs and how are you sure about this bro?

OpenYourEyes1:
Do you believe the god of this world is satan?

god of this world in relation to the evils of this world. Satan is neither the owner of this world or the creator, the Lord Jesus Christ is.

OpenYourEyes1:
Do you think this current technological progress will end well for mankind?

Yes bro. Yes. The gospel is proclaimed with every type of technology from the media house to the industry, from the laboratory to the world. This is possible because men with God by their side and the Holy Spirit within are putting their brains to work.

OpenYourEyes1:
Do you believe the progress is funded by the occult and does not come from anything related to one true GOD?

No I don't believe. If you say this progress is being shortchange and manipulated by men to perpetuate evil or turn men away from the Creator, then I will agree with you.

OpenYourEyes1:
Have you ask yourself why many scientists and their funders are rebellious to the CREATOR? Doesn't that remind you of the Tower of Babal?

There will always be great men who will always rebel against God, Pharaoh, Nebuchadnezzar, Herod etc rebelled against God.

But what of great men like Joseph, Bezalel, Solomon etc?

OpenYourEyes1:
Well, it is hard to understand how the struggle to survive on earth or to conquer the curses on sinners/earth with life-extension drugs, cars, aircrafts, large homes, laptop, TV, internet etc is not from GOD. But we will eventually know the truth when the damages has been done on us and our planet.

Throw away all your media devices, but first start with your phone, then, I will know you are proclaiming truth not with your lips only but your heart also.

OpenYourEyes1:
Remember the story of Daniel? Daniel remained holy., never accepted nebuchadnezzar's food. He ate vegetables instead of the food from Babylon and he was healthier than others. I bet most Isrealites in Babylon in those days did not observe this important dietary law. They probably became like the Babylonians.

What about Mordecai, Esther, Nehemiah and Ezra?

OpenYourEyes1:
According to the Book of Eunuch, Weapons of war were taught to mankind by fallen angels before the flood. Isreal eventually use thesame weapons to fight their enemies with the help of GOD. Do you know why GOD allowed the weapons? Because everything belongs to him, the battles were justified and he lead the Isrealites. But consider that those who make this technologies today are rebellious people. So it clearly not from GOD same way tower of babal was not of GOD.

Now you are contradicting yourself.

OpenYourEyes1:
Our world is repeating the mistakes of pre-flood people. They built great technologies with the help of lucifer and his angels. It Was not of GOD. The technologies eventually cause them to be evil and violent and THE ALMIGHTY had to step in and destroyed that world. Satan is trying to recreate that world today. GOD bless you my friend. I don't have any human enemy to fight.

What about the ship/canoe, the houses, the footwears etc the Lord Jesus Christ used when He was on earth. Are these not product of technology?Are you trying to tell me He compromised with the things belonging to Satan?

Thanks.

God bless.

1StopRudeness:
I agreed with u in the area that the devil influences man to use God given knowledge and wisdom wrongly. But the devil doesn’t give technology....it’s need and brainstorming that drives tech.... I used internet and pornographyy as an example.. why do u think the devil in charge of Persia intercepted the angel bringing the prophesy of the future to Daniel...because they too want to know what the future holds...u think If the devil was smart and saw all the angles he would have killed the Jesus knowing fully well humanity’s redemption is hidden right there in the death and Jesus would have the chance to go silence the boast of sin and hades for us...the devil isn’t a custodian of knowledge, he’s not ominopitent, he isn’t everywhere at the same time... he’s almost like u and I only with angelic prowess and better experience since he’s been around for a while..
U are asking me to counter your claims... there’s nothing to counter cos all u provided above are conspiracy theory...they are not different from the theories that the earth is flat and not revolving... it’s fallacy, how can u say just becos I smoked weed and came up with the cure of HIV means the devil gave it to me...and it’s the weed that gave it to me..how do I know God ddnt give it to me before.. when I was in college come and see enuf drug users and weed smokers that were numbskulls

It’s like u think humanity is incapable of nothing...humanity ddnt think of anything, there was no need driving man towards development, tech and development was just given to us by Lucifer..
Now let me ask u... how come Lucifer ddnt bring tech wisdom to us Africans, why is it that it’s only the whites... since u refuse my explanation of necessity and drive to survive in the harsh weda conditions of the whites made them brainstorm better than us...
The most important thing is that all humanity should surrender to God and be led by his spirit.. technology isn’t the problem.... ordinary hands that’s God given can be used to strangle a fellow man if I allow the devil use me...did devil give me the hand..??
Yes!!! The devil controls the world, that’s because the mind of man is self-serving, greedy and always seeking to gratify the Desires of the flesh...and that’s why the devil uses flesh- edifying inspiration to drive our mind so when we think of techs we build techs to kill each other, rape each other, commit adultery, but still these techs are simultaneously used for good... is there any good in the devil?? Weed /cannabis is used to stimulate the brain and distort the mind..but also used in medical applications, doesn’t that mean the devil made weed.
Therefore all tech knowledge was meant for good initially given by God before they bcame corrupted.... peace be unto u man!!!!

Kudos bro.

LordReed:
LMFAO! Kai you can humblebrag like no other. They should give you special award for humblebraging.

You have not shown anything called wisdom except to stylishly introduce your JW cult where ever you can.

Haaaaaaaaaa

Evidently Professor LordReed Sir,

YOU ARE COMPLETELY EMPTY!

So with all your Education, Science and Technology all you can do is to mimick the assertion of envious religionists!

OK, let's expose your ignorance now!

Please Sir with your vast experience as a Professor,

(1)What are the aims and objectives of a cult group?
(2)Have you ever seen a cult group that's ever willing to humble themselves to the point of pleading at the doorstep of those vilifying them?
(3)Have you ever heard of a cult group that's not interested in political affairs?
(4)Have you ever heard of any harmless cult group?
(5)Have you ever heard of any cult group whose place of meeting is open to everyone?
(6)Have you ever heard of a cult group that's ever willing to forgive and let go of their persecutors?
(7)Have you ever heard of a cult group that's not highly regarded and revered within their community?

Sorry Professor LordReed,

YOU ARE COMPLETELY EMPTY!

Well if you still wish to prove your intelligence in this thread Sir, the bone of contention is "HUMAN RELATION" NOT Science and Technology!

Maximus69:
Haaaaaaaaaa

Evidently Professor LordReed Sir,

YOU ARE COMPLETELY EMPTY!

So with all your Education, Science and Technology all you can do is to mimick the assertion of envious religionists!

OK, let's expose your ignorance now!

Please Sir with your vast experience as a Professor,

(1)What are the aims and objectives of a cult group?
(2)Have you ever seen a cult group that's ever willing to humble themselves to the point of pleading at the doorstep of those vilifying them?
(3)Have you ever heard of a cult group that's not interested in political affairs?
(4)Have you ever heard of any harmless cult group?
(5)Have you ever heard of any cult group whose place of meeting is open to everyone?
(6)Have you ever heard of a cult group that's ever willing to forgive and let go of their persecutors?
(7)Have you ever heard of a cult group that's not highly regarded and revered within their community?

Sorry Professor LordReed,

YOU ARE COMPLETELY EMPTY!

Well if you still wish to prove your intelligence in this thread Sir, the bone of contention is "HUMAN RELATION" NOT Science and Technology!

This is how we recognise cults:

Behavior Control
Promote dependence and obedience
Modify behavior with rewards and punishments
Dictate where and with whom you live
Restrict or control sexuality
Control clothing and hairstyle
Regulate what and how much you eat and drink
Deprive you of seven to nine hours of sleep
Exploit you financially
Restrict leisure time and activities
Require you to seek permission for major decisions

Information Control
Deliberately withhold and distort information
Forbid you from speaking with ex-members and critics
Discourage access to non-cult sources of information
Divide information into Insider vs. Outsider doctrine
Generate and use propaganda extensively
Use information gained in confession sessions against you
Gaslight to make you doubt your own memory
Require you to report thoughts, feelings, & activities to superiors
Encourage you to spy and report on others’ “misconduct”

Thought Control
Instill Black vs. White, Us vs. Them, & Good vs. Evil thinking
Change your identity, possibly even your name
Use loaded language and cliches to stop complex thought
Induce hypnotic or trance states to indoctrinate
Teach thought-stopping techniques to prevent critical thoughts
Allow only positive thoughts
Use excessive meditation, singing, prayer, & chanting to block thoughts
Reject rational analysis, critical thinking, & doubt

Emotional Control
Instill irrational fears (phobias) of questioning or leaving the group
Label some emotions as evil, worldly, sinful, or wrong
Teach emotion-stopping techniques to prevent anger, homesickness
Promote feelings of guilt, shame, & unworthiness
Shower you with praise and attention (“love bombing”)
Threaten your friends and family
Shun you if you disobey or disbelieve
Teach that there is no happiness or peace outside the group

SOURCE

And JW ticks everyone of the boxes.

LordReed:
This is how we recognise cults:

Behavior Control
Promote dependence and obedience
Modify behavior with rewards and punishments
Dictate where and with whom you live
Restrict or control sexuality
Control clothing and hairstyle
Regulate what and how much you eat and drink
Deprive you of seven to nine hours of sleep
Exploit you financially
Restrict leisure time and activities
Require you to seek permission for major decisions[/b]

Information Control
Deliberately withhold and distort information
Forbid you from speaking with ex-members and critics
Discourage access to non-cult sources of information
Divide information into Insider vs. Outsider doctrine
Generate and use propaganda extensively
Use information gained in confession sessions against you
Gaslight to make you doubt your own memory
Require you to report thoughts, feelings, & activities to superiors
Encourage you to spy and report on others’ “misconduct”

[b]Thought Control
Instill Black vs. White, Us vs. Them, & Good vs. Evil thinking
Change your identity, possibly even your name
Use loaded language and cliches to stop complex thought
Induce hypnotic or trance states to indoctrinate
Teach thought-stopping techniques to prevent critical thoughts
Allow only positive thoughts
Use excessive meditation, singing, prayer, & chanting to block thoughts
Reject rational analysis, critical thinking, & doubt

Emotional Control
Instill irrational fears (phobias) of questioning or leaving the group
Label some emotions as evil, worldly, sinful, or wrong
Teach emotion-stopping techniques to prevent anger, homesickness
Promote feelings of guilt, shame, & unworthiness
Shower you with praise and attention (“love bombing”)
Threaten your friends and family
Shun you if you disobey or disbelieve
Teach that there is no happiness or peace outside the group

SOURCE

And JW ticks everyone of the boxes.

Haaaaaaaaaaaaa

So this is what they taught you about how to recognise a CULT?

First of all, the bolded aren't part of what TRUE Christians encourages, they're additional as in ideas infused to scare you away from considering FAITH!

Secondly every other points raised up there (apart from the bolded) accurately defines submission! There is no other way intelligent creatures like you and i can curb evil in our society without it.
Unless you're childless if not, try to meditate thoroughly on what you typed up there, then come back and tell everyone that you won't employ such measures to protect your adorable child from prevailing juvenile deliquesces in the world today!

Once again Professor, i'm putting it to you that

YOU ARE COMPLETELY EMPTY

And with what you've typed up there, can you now prove that there is nothing shaping your thoughts (Satan)?

Imagine an adult like you, totally brainwashed to think that all what that SOURCE passed to you is worthwhile whereas you're here trying everyday to tell others about rights/wrongs in the way they chose to live their lives!

So if what the useless SOURCE gave you is anything to go by, what then is the essence of all your arguments here on NL? Are you the one to determine what happiness means for intelligent creatures like yourself?
Aren't each adult like you FREE to decide whether to live or not to live by the standard they choose for themselves? Are you of the opinion that there shouldn't be any standards at all? If there should be, then how do you modify such standards?

Sorry Professor, your emptiness is beyond compare Sir. You're a total disappointment to the world of intellectuals!

@LordReed.

Let's enlighten you regarding the aim of CULTISM form the very book your gods taught is worthless!


First of all you need to know that there are unseen higher intelligent creatures (spirit beings) around us, they control most people you're seeing in the neighborhood with different techniques! Ephesians 6:10-12

So how to recognise those under their CONTROL?

They will be living a carefree life {Galatians 5:19-21} and even after seeing the negative effects in the lives of others, they'll be scheming ways to prevent the consequences of what they're doing! 1Corinthians 3:19

Now THE PURPOSE OF CULTISM

Because most people wants to live a carefree life, they also wants to be accepted in the society and at the same time they don't want to suffer the consequences of lawlessness.

The higher intelligent creatures (demons) congregates them in smaller folds and give them certain codes that they carry everywhere they go. This codes is recognisable throughout the world by their members including those in other CULT groups.

Whenever the law is about to catch up with them, they're protected by their fellow members who occupy high positions in the society and an innocent person is taken to serve the punishment of their wrong!

To continue maintaining their stand in the CULT, remember that unseen beings are involved and these ones want members to prove themselves 100% loyal, so a human life {to be determined by the demon congregating them} is terminated and blood is spilled. This is the SECRET that cultists keep within them!

In most cases the sacrificial prey selected by the demon in charge are close relations of the member, so all in attendance know the SECRET and the keep it religiously. Whoever leaks their secret {whether an insider or outsider} must be exterminated (KILLED)!

Apart from their lawlessness and schemes to overturn justice, cultist are common individuals like other carefree people. So they're also prone to illnesses and infections gotten from promiscuity, and they also suffer the consequences of that just like others.

But FAITH is the direct opposite of CULTISM.

There are moral rules, there are warnings to prevent members form harm, timely information on how to live without been influenced by the carefree lifestyle of lawless people,interchange of encouragement for those living by moral rules, members get help {relief materials} during natural disasters, advised to always make friends with those having the same line of thought, taught never to take vengeance but to forgive those who thought living by moral rules is worthless, talk with neighbours making them see reasons with faith in other to gain more members as spiritual family.

Whoever agrees after experiencing the joy of virtuous principles only willingly go back to a carefree lifestyle MUST BE SHUNNED. 2John 10-11

That is the one and only form of punishment for intentional defaulters amongst people living by FAITH! 1Corinthians 5:13

Maximus69:
Haaaaaaaaaaaaa

So this is what they taught you about how to recognise a CULT?

First of all, the bolded aren't part of what TRUE Christians encourages, they're additional as in ideas infused to scare you away from considering FAITH!

Secondly every other points raised up there (apart from the bolded) accurately defines submission! There is no other way intelligent creatures like you and i can curb evil in our society without it.
Unless you're childless if not, try to meditate thoroughly on what you typed up there, then come back and tell everyone that you won't employ such measures to protect your adorable child from prevailing juvenile deliquesces in the world today!

Once again Professor, i'm putting it to you that

YOU ARE COMPLETELY EMPTY

And with what you've typed up there, can you now prove that there is nothing shaping your thoughts (Satan)?

Imagine an adult like you, totally brainwashed to think that all what that SOURCE passed to you is worthwhile whereas you're here trying everyday to tell others about rights/wrongs in the way they chose to live their lives!

So if what the useless SOURCE gave you is anything to go by, what then is the essence of all your arguments here on NL? Are you the one to determine what happiness means for intelligent creatures like yourself?
Aren't each adult like you FREE to decide whether to live or not to live by the standard they choose for themselves? Are you of the opinion that there shouldn't be any standards at all? If there should be, then how do you modify such standards?

Sorry Professor, your emptiness is beyond compare Sir. You're a total disappointment to the world of intellectuals!

What pleases me about your response is you did not deny that JW is guilty of perpetuating the actions contained in the list.

Maximus69:
@LordReed.

Let's enlighten you regarding the aim of CULTISM form the very book your gods taught is worthless!


First of all you need to know that there are unseen higher intelligent creatures (spirit beings) around us, they control most people you're seeing in the neighborhood with different techniques! Ephesians 6:10-12

So how to recognise those under their CONTROL?

They will be living a carefree life {Galatians 5:19-21} and even after seeing the negative effects in the lives of others, they'll be scheming ways to prevent the consequences of what they're doing! 1Corinthians 3:19

Now THE PURPOSE OF CULTISM

Because most people wants to live a carefree life, they also wants to be accepted in the society and at the same time they don't want to suffer the consequences of lawlessness.

The higher intelligent creatures (demons) congregates them in smaller folds and give them certain codes that they carry everywhere they go. This codes is recognisable throughout the world by their members including those in other CULT groups.

Whenever the law is about to catch up with them, they're protected by their fellow members who occupy high positions in the society and an innocent person is taken to serve the punishment of their wrong!

To continue maintaining their stand in the CULT, remember that unseen beings are involved and these ones want members to prove themselves 100% loyal, so a human life {to be determined by the demon congregating them} is terminated and blood is spilled. This is the SECRET that cultists keep within them!

In most cases the sacrificial prey selected by the demon in charge are close relations of the member, so all in attendance know the SECRET and the keep it religiously. Whoever leaks their secret {whether an insider or outsider} must be exterminated (KILLED)!

Apart from their lawlessness and schemes to overturn justice, cultist are common individuals like other carefree people. So they're also prone to illnesses and infections gotten from promiscuity, and they also suffer the consequences of that just like others.

But FAITH is the direct opposite of CULTISM.

There are moral rules, there are warnings to prevent members form harm, timely information on how to live without been influenced by the carefree lifestyle of lawless people,interchange of encouragement for those living by moral rules, members get help {relief materials} during natural disasters, advised to always make friends with those having the same line of thought, taught never to take vengeance but to forgive those who thought living by moral rules is worthless, talk with neighbours making them see reasons with faith in other to gain more members as spiritual family.

Whoever agrees after experiencing the joy of virtuous principles only willingly go back to a carefree lifestyle MUST BE SHUNNED. 2John 10-11

That is the one and only form of punishment for intentional defaulters amongst people living by FAITH! 1Corinthians 5:13

First you need to demonstrate the reality of these unseen higher intelligent creatures (spirit beings) around us and their control over people before anything else.

LordReed:
What pleases me about your response is you did not deny that JW is guilty of perpetuating the actions contained in the list.

Apart from the ones i kept in bolded part.

That's exactly what all religious institutions are trying to do Sir!

And for your information, that's the main reason governmental authorities are working hand in hand with the religious institutions, because they're helping them to keep their subjects in check. Any religious group that fails to make their members submissive to the government is labeled extremists or terrorists!

So based on the analogy of your SOURCE, you can quantify all religionists as CULT!

But you never answered my question!

Are you childless?
If not, which of the ones i conceded will you spare you child?

Will you allow your child to be absolutely free regarding BEHAVIOR
INFORMATION
THOUGHT
EMOTION?

LordReed:
First you need to demonstrate the reality of these unseen higher intelligent creatures (spirit beings) around us and their control over people before anything else.

Haaaaaaaaaaa!

There you go again. Blindly arguing what is so obvious!

If you don't agree with that, then how come large numbers of people are unanimously doing things with one accord and you've been agitating over it all to no avail?

Even your gods {astronauts} aren't seeing the black holes with their powerful telescopes but they are NOT denying existence of the unseen planet gravitating and swallowing surrounding objects!

Sorry Professor, you just dey fall my hand Sir!

Maximus69:
Apart from the ones i kept in bolded part.

That's exactly what all religious institutions are trying to do Sir!

And for your information, that's the main reason governmental authorities are working hand in hand with the religious institutions, because they're helping them to keep their subjects in check. Any religious group that fails to make their members submissive to the government is labeled extremists or terrorists!

So based on the analogy of your SOURCE, you can quantify all religionists as CULT!

But you never answered my question!

Are you childless?
If not, which of the ones i conceded will you spare you child?

Will you allow your child to be absolutely free regarding BEHAVIOR
INFORMATION
THOUGHT
EMOTION?

Not all religions do those things and I don't need religion to teach me to follow the laws of the land

Yes, I allow my children freedom in all those categories and yes I provide guidance now that they are still little (infants and toddlers). However, I already anticipate the days my guidance will no longer be primary in their lives, which is what my guidance is geared towards, providing them the tools for living their own lives. If you seriously try to suggest that children can develop themselves without guidance then I'll know you've gone cuckoo.

Maximus69:
Haaaaaaaaaaa!

There you go again. Blindly arguing what is so obvious!

If you don't agree with that, then how come large numbers of people are unanimously doing things with one accord and you've been agitating over it all to no avail?

Even your gods {astronauts} aren't seeing the black holes with their powerful telescopes but they are NOT denying existence of the unseen planet gravitating and swallowing surrounding objects!

Sorry Professor, you just dey fall my hand Sir!

So through which telescopes shall we look at your unseen beings? There's usually a way to verify things that are beyond our immediate perception which method are you offering to verify these your unseen beings?

LordReed:
(1)Not all religions do those things and I don't need religion to teach me to follow the laws of the land

Yes, I allow my children freedom in all those categories and yes I provide guidance now that they are still little (infants and toddlers). However, I already anticipate the days my guidance will no longer be primary in their lives, which is what my guidance is geared towards,

(2)providing them the tools for living their own lives. If you seriously try to suggest that
(3)children can develop themselves without guidance then I'll know you've gone cuckoo.

(1) Don't result to lying this time around!
You can mentione just one single religious group that's free from all that i conceded! Their registration under the law is to operate within the confines of the law of the land!

(2) So after providing your children with what you call tools for living their own lives, do you expect them to continue in the legacy you lay down for them? Proverbs 23:6

(3)Of course God's word gave us a task on the coming generation of intelligent creatures. We're to TEACH them the life saving instructions from God! Deuteronomy 6:4-7

So back to thread Sir!

Now that most parents like you and i have played their respective parts regarding the necessary tools they thought is OK for their children and the society is still suffering NOT from the hands of untamed beasts in the jungle but from the same children ought to have been taught as in equipped with the so called NECESSARY tools. What's next?

That's what the thread is all about Sir!

Maximus69:
(1) Don't result to lying this time around!
You can mentione just one single religious group that's free from all that i conceded! Their registration under the law is to operate within the confines of the law of the land!

(2) So after providing your children with what you call tools for living their own lives, do you expect them to continue in the legacy you lay down for them? Proverbs 23:6

(3)Of course God's word gave us a task on the coming generation of intelligent creatures. We're to TEACH them the life saving instructions from God! Deuteronomy 6:4-7

So back to thread Sir!

Now that most parents like you and i have played their respective parts regarding the necessary tools they thought is OK for their children and the society is still suffering NOT from the hands of untamed beasts in the jungle but from the same children ought to have been taught as in equipped with the so called NECESSARY tools. What's next?

That's what the thread is all about Sir!

Where did I say religions are free from these things?

Once I have given them the tools, what they make of their own lives is up to them. For sure I expect it will be something good because the tools I will provide them will enlighten their way but even if they choose to be bad it still will be their own way. I will not coerce or manipulate them into any specific type of behaviour.

This thread is about technology and its source.

LordReed:
So through which telescopes shall we look at your unseen beings? There's usually a way to verify things that are beyond our immediate perception which method are you offering to verify these your unseen beings?

@bolded.

How do i know that killing my neighbours who don't share the same line of thought with me means selfishness? Matthew 26:52

How do i know that people don't just become evil from birth, but that they're initiated into joining bad gangs? 1Corinthians 15:33

How do i know that your own child could be easily won over into doing things you never taught him? Psalms 127:1

How do is know that common sense can't solve the problems facing common people? 1Corinthians 3:19

How do i reach the heart of my neighbours (most of whom will never reveal what they're thinking to anyone) to change their minds and redirect them to love even those who hate them? Hebrew 4:12

It is the power that surpasses that of common telescopes, the higher intellect to read hearts through tactful discussions! Act 26:28

The answer to that is the Bible!

LordReed:
Where did I say religions are free from these things?

Once I have given them the tools, what they make of their own lives is up to them. For sure I expect it will be something good because the tools I will provide them will enlighten their way but even if they choose to be bad it still will be their own way. I will not coerce or manipulate them into any specific type of behaviour.

This thread is about technology and its source.

Haaaaaaaaaaa Daddy!

Well RESPONSIBLE parents can go extra miles to make sure their children {whom they strongly believe is their future} remain in the things they taught them from infancy! 2Timothy 3:14-15

The principal focus of this thread is Satan {the main character thought to be responsible for all the EVIL carried out throughout the world}, So it's about what makes people treat other people badly human relation Sir!

Maximus69:
Haaaaaaaaaaa Daddy!

Well RESPONSIBLE parents can go extra miles to make sure their children {whom they strongly believe is their future} remain in the things they taught them from infancy! 2Timothy 3:14-15

The principal focus of this thread is Satan {the main character thought to be responsible for all the EVIL carried out throughout the world}, So it's about what makes people treat other people badly human relation Sir!

Point out in the OP any mention of treating people bad.