Iblad0994:


The SS denied themselves the chance for the Jonathan second term. He marginalized the Yorubas with the Igbos praising him there forgetting what the Yoruba did for him in his first term election. The Yorubas were not deemed fit to be in the first 4 top positions in the country and yet you said we voted him out.

My eye is on the ruling party and the ticket is already given to the SW zone, this is not a matter of begging anyone, it’s a matter of seeing result of hard work.

Even if the APC fields a Muslim/Muslim ticket as you opined, they will still win coz they have the zone with the numbers. Politics is about numbers, it’s not a game for the weak minded, and religion is not a divisive tactics in the SW, hence if APC fields Fashola/El-Rufai, then they will win the election.

Either way, the PDP will be defeated in 2023, either by a Northerner or a SE’ner. Do you copy that bro?

Lol... Tinubu will defeat a northerner in the whole north

Alright bro... Gnite

Iblad0994:


Lol, you don’t understand SW politics. The only time the SW had a divided vote is when a Yoruba is not on the ballot, try to understand how situation work.

If the SW bring out Osinbajo or Fashola I’m 2023, they will surely get at least 85% of the vote without much wahala.

I want you to bring forth an argument to counter my fact.

that was in the past bro, politics in SW is the most dynamic in the country.
There's a lot of seething anger in SW against Apc/Buhari unless Apc adresses it,I just don't see it..and these angry people don't talk much on social media.
Tinubu is not even universally liked in SW and that's the reality, even if he does not contest it will rub on whoever he presents,Fashola or osibanjo...it will be case of transfferd agression..
the biggest stumbling block for Apc are their governors,former or present who ruin SW with their misgovernance,owing salaries and pensions and leaving huge debt,and most of them imposed again by mr Tinubu..
added to that is that the opposition themselves seems to have strong structures across all Sw states.
The Apc has a lot of task on their hands in sw b4 2023..
or what played out in 2015 and especially 2019 will play out in SW: splitting of votes despite having the candidate.

this is the reality of SW.

bamosagie:
I don't know about SE but SS is definitely voting North

I know d north will not emerge from d pdp? Because there are interested candidate from south south and south west , kogi and kwara atiku will never have a second chance again

sapoyoro:


that was in the past bro, politics in SW is the most dynamic in the country.
There's a lot of seething anger in SW against Apc/Buhari unless Apc adresses it,I just don't see it..and these angry people don't talk much on social media.
Tinubu is not even universally liked in SW and that's the reality, even if he does not contest it will rub on whoever he presents,Fashola or osibanjo...it will be case of transfferd agression..
the biggest stumbling block for Apc are their governors,former or present who ruin SW with their misgovernance,owing salaries and pensions and leaving huge debt,and most of them imposed again by mr Tinubu..
added to that is that the opposition themselves seems to have strong structures across all Sw states.
The Apc has a lot of task on their hands in sw b4 2023..
or what played out in 2015 and especially 2019 will play out in SW: splitting of votes despite having the candidate.

this is the reality of SW.

I understand where you are coming from and what you said is reasonable considering the fact that there is anger in the land and people are politically conscious in the SW.

I wish Tinubu do not try to contest in 2023, coz he won’t get that much block vote needed for the APC in the SW. but I can beat my chest that the SW voters will vote Fashola/ Osinbajo with all the vote they can muster coz those guys still enjoy some form of adulation from the Yorubas.

You should know politics is about choosing between two people, are you telling me the SW voters will vote for Kwakwanso/Takbuwal as they would vote Fashola/Osinbajo?

A lot of things will come into play, and dynamics will change. Most voters in the SW don’t even know who Tambuwal is, forget about the hype these online urchins are attributing to Tambuwal, he is not popular like that and Kwakwanso also got lot of enemies even in the North.

The only person that will give the SW a hard time is when PDP fields Atiku in 2023. Coz some voters in the SW will vote that man considering the nature of the 2019 election and based on his popularity and spending power.

Iblad0994:


I understand where you are coming from and what you said is reasonable considering the fact that there is anger in the land and people are politically conscious in the SW.

I wish Tinubu do not try to contest in 2023, coz he won’t get that much block vote needed for the APC in the SW. but I can beat my chest that the SW voters will vote Fashola/ Osinbajo with all the vote they can muster coz those guys still enjoy some form of adulation from the Yorubas.

You should know politics is about choosing between two people, are you telling me the SW voters will vote for Kwakwanso/Takbuwal as they would vote Fashola/Osinbajo?

A lot of things will come into play, and dynamics will change. Most voters in the SW don’t even know who Tambuwal is, forget about the hype these online urchins are attributing to Tambuwal, he is not popular like that and Kwakwanso also got lot of enemies even in the North.

The only person that will give the SW a hard time is when PDP fields Atiku in 2023. Coz some voters in the SW will vote that man considering the nature of the 2019 election and based on his popularity and spending power.

you made some good points but as a realistic person from Sw,I will not be surprised to see tambuwal,kwankwanso split votes in Sw and even winning some states....a feck you by some people to Buhari, tinubu and his candidates...and their governors
if I have to face what's on ground across sw there's nothing right now at all that suggest Osinbajo or fashola are that all round popular to even get 60% percent of votes across all sw, maybe fashola in lagos sha..
Apc should not live in a delusion that a yoruba candidate equal block votes from the region.
Sw is a very dynamic society.
a lot like you said can change b4 2023 but to be honest with you Apc has a huge task on their hands in Sw,and they have to adress it too.

sapoyoro:


you made some good points but as a realistic person from Sw,I will not be surprised to see tambuwal,kwankwanso split votes in Sw and even winning some states....a feck you by some people to Buhari, tinubu and his candidates...and their governors
if I have to face what's on ground across sw there's nothing right now at all that suggest Osinbajo or fashola are that all round popular to even get 60% percent of votes across all sw, maybe fashola in lagos sha..
Apc should not live in a delusion that a yoruba candidate equal block votes from the region.
Sw is a very dynamic society.
a lot like you said can change b4 2023 but to be honest with you Apc has a huge task on their hands in Sw,and they have to adress it too.

Well everyone see life from a different perspective. Let’s hope for the best

Iblad0994:


Well everyone see life from a different perspective. Let’s hope for the best

yeah..I hope for the best for Sw too.

mrvitalis:

South east is for north they said we should learn how to play national politics so we are learning

The problem is you still don't understand...

Make I hear say Our Demonic President release power to SW or SE or SS.....

bamosagie:
I don't know about SE but SS is definitely voting North

south east vote south west? We will rather vote Buhari for third term

bamosagie:
I don't know about SE but SS is definitely voting North

thank you God bless you...

Chukapage:
south east vote south west? We will rather vote Buhari for third term

confirm you my gee

A southern anointed candidate of Buhari will do the bidding of the present structure and no good for Nigeria. I suggest that the country be broken up. The contraption called Nigeria has failed. There is no country where complete distrust and disharmony exist as we have it now. The fear of reprisal for the behavior of the Fulani is what will not allow power to shift down south. If does shift, you can be sure to have a strong vice president who will not allow the President to freely act for the benefit of the country. So the country is doomed to merry-go-round life of development and strife.

So a break up is the best advice

The SW is the one keeping Nigeria together. The day the SW voice out for Oduduwa, Nigeria distengrates immediately

The chicken will go roost then

Let's end it all.

QuotaSystem:
Lol. 2023 is an election between 2 southern candidates, argue all you like.

The reason is what sounds like bla bla bla to you.

I am a northerner and I'm voting for a southerner in 2023. Although we appreciate the SE offer to lead them again, we are sticking with Buhari’s anointed southern successor for the peace, stability and continued existence of our dear country.

Finally yorubas have come to terms with the reality that SS and SE vote as a block and will never vote a SWner who have done their turn. After years of deceiving themselves by using fake online usernames to try to cause division between the two historically contiguous regions.

Finally sense don dey gum them. 2023 will be interesting.

PDP should NEVER make the mistake of zoning it's ticket before APC zones theirs. Let APC choose it's candidate from the SW first then PDP can take from there.

If APC chooses a SE candidate, then PDP will have a lot to worry and have no option than to zone to the East.

There is no region that has more legimitate claim to the presidency than the East as it stand, but to ensure that treachery is not rewarded, it will be ready to have the north keep power till the two parties zone to the East, the way it was done for the yorubas the only time they ever produced an elected president.

What is good for Okeke should be done for Okafor. Shikena.

Political Ojukokoro will cause serious issues for the SW in 2023. We dey watch.

livebyday:


I flag comments that incite tribal.bashing

This is a forum where we have members of all tribes , religion and culture hence we must be respectful in our comments not derogatory in any subtle way


You know what you did, be guided!

Cheers

What is derailing in what I said. When is it a sin to mention a certain tribe on Nairaland? Because I said i pity them for what is happening, does that necessarily mean I'm derailing the thread. Are we operating under a military regime on Nairaland where the MOD will dictate every word we need to use? I as much as I am not abusing any tribe I think you are the one derailing the thread yourself.

Hello

KidsNEXTdoor:


Lol... Tinubu will defeat a northerner in the whole north

Alright bro... Gnite

...leave those delusional dudes....like tinubu fit win southwest alon sef..

QuotaSystem:


The PDP are the originators of zoning. Their failure to respect zoning in 2011 when they denied the North the opportunity to finish its turn by forcing Jonathan on the party as a scam "consensus candidate", was the main reason for their defeat in the 2011 Presidential elections (as even disgruntled northern PDP members, including the chairman, worked against GEJ) which signaled the beginning of the party's downfall that they're still struggling to recover from.

PDP will therefore not dare repeat their 2011 mistake by denying the south its turn in 2023. APC is also fielding a SW candidate with the support of its CPC & ANPP northern wing (despite SW splitting votes ) .

It is only fair for power to move south after 8 years of northern Presidency. This country is on a delicate balance and we know an attempt to dominate the Presidency for 16 years is a recipe for national chaos, so we will definitely support the south.

2023 will be very interesting.

Your first paragraph appears to be some form of fantasy.
So the constitution of the country is inferior to that of a particular zone just because nature took its course...............

Now as regards zoning for political parties..........
With the PDP, they are expected to field a candidate from the eastern region.
While the APC will bring someone from the west for the presidential election.


There are 4 zones politically and are, west, north, south and east. I intentionally put it in this order because of the flow of presidential aspirants and presidents from 1999 till 2015 as regarding the PDP.

I see no serious contentions as to whatever is before the west or north. The east is expected to change their manner of politics if they truly desire to have a president of their kinsman irrespective of which party is incumbent of opposition. It's automatic for the south when its their turn it will be in place.

Sorry No.

Kaa4:
A southern anointed candidate of Buhari will do the bidding of the present structure and no good for Nigeria. I suggest that the country be broken up. The contraption called Nigeria has failed. There is no country where complete distrust and disharmony exist as we have it now. The fear of reprisal for the behavior of the Fulani is what will not allow power to shift down south. If does shift, you can be sure to have a strong vice president who will not allow the President to freely act for the benefit of the country. So the country is doomed to merry-go-round life of development and strife.

So a break up is the best advice

The SW is the one keeping Nigeria together. The day the SW voice out for Oduduwa, Nigeria distengrates immediately

The chicken will go roost then

Let's end it all.

Especially when APC has chosen to deceiving people with 30k minimum wage. We are waiting to see how they will rig in 2023 especially in SW.

QuotaSystem:


The PDP are the originators of zoning. Their failure to respect zoning in 2011 when they denied the North the opportunity to finish its turn by forcing Jonathan on the party as a scam "consensus candidate", was the main reason for their defeat in the 2011 Presidential elections (as even disgruntled northern PDP members, including the chairman, worked against GEJ) which signaled the beginning of the party's downfall that they're still struggling to recover from.

PDP will therefore not dare repeat their 2011 mistake by denying the south its turn in 2023. APC is also fielding a SW candidate with the support of its CPC & ANPP northern wing (despite SW splitting votes ) .

It is only fair for power to move south after 8 years of northern Presidency. This country is on a delicate balance and we know an attempt to dominate the Presidency for 16 years is a recipe for national chaos, so we will definitely support the south.

2023 will be very interesting.

If the north truly cares about the unity of Nigeria then they should support the SE to produce the next president. That is the right thing to do.

If power is to return to the south it shouldn't go to the SW. It's time for the SE to produce a Nigerian president.

Iblad0994:


What is derailing in what I said. When is it a sin to mention a certain tribe on Nairaland? Because I said i pity them for what is happening, does that necessarily mean I'm derailing the thread. Are we operating under a military regime on Nairaland where the MOD will dictate every word we need to use? I as much as I am not abusing any tribe I think you are the one derailing the thread yourself.

Are you done?

Cheers

...and if they get the power, nothing changes for good for the SW and SE regions in Nigeria.

Hausa/Fulani shall still be in control of Nigeria through the skewed and fake 36 states + Abuja political structure of Nigeria with 19 states + Abuja in north alone.

The road to Sango Ota was not tarred in 8 years OBJ was president.
Pipe borne water was not in Goodluck Jonathan's Otuoke all the years Jonathan was president.

hmmmm

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Iblad0994:


The SS denied themselves the chance for Jonathan second term. He marginalized the Yorubas with the Igbos praising him thereby forgetting what the Yoruba did for him in his first term election. The Yorubas were not deemed fit to be in the first 4 top positions in the country and yet you said we voted him out.

Don’t get my reply up there wrong, I did not advocate for the SE/SS vote, I’m not saying the SW needs then like that, we’ve always have different voting patterns and everyone should be left to decide who they wanna vote for. The southern unity is a mirage.

You guys always hide under southern unity to bring the SW to your fold. Where was the southern unity during Shagari/Awolowo, Abiola/Tofa, Azikwe/Balewa/Awolowo? Are you implying the treachery of the southern region started in 2015 alone? Spare me that saying of that rubbish southern unity. It’s southern unity only when it favors you guys and the SW is strong enough to hold both SE/SS and weather the storm.

My eye is on the ruling party and the ticket is already given to the SW zone, this is not a matter of begging anyone, it’s a matter of reaping result of hard work.

Even if the APC fields a Muslim/Muslim ticket as you opined, they will still win coz they have the zone with the numbers. Politics is about numbers, it’s not a game for the weak minded, and religion is not a divisive tactics in the SW, hence if APC fields Fashola/El-Rufai, then they will win the election
Either way, the PDP will be defeated in 2023, either by a Northerner or a SE’ner. Do you copy that bro?

I can tell you that bold statement will never pass no matter what numbers you're referring to.
If it has not happened before it will forever not happen anytime forever and ever.

QuotaSystem:
I am loving the attitude of the South West regarding 2023.

They will contest the Presidency (obviously under the APC) no matter what the rest of the south says.

I encourage the SS to also throw in their hat and contest, instead of chickening out and looking for another northerner to lead them like their neighbors.

PMB will surely anoint a southern successor afterall.

I wonder why u you youth think like this

Who give a f*uck a contest from where and which party 2023.... Can't u guys see nothing is working?

We keep using same formula and expecting different result.... What will tinibu better than buhari...

I no just get una.... Las las na to leave this country be next, because all of una dey mad ni