Acidosis:

Great message you have here.

It is true that we are predestined by God but a lot is required of us to bring that calling into manifestation since there is always a contest and battle for the fulfilment of our purpose.

The birth of Jesus was predicted in the book of Isaiah. In spite being the son of God, a woman we rarely talk about in the Bible spent 84 years of her life praying and fasting in a temple for the manifestation of that prophecy. She was a prophetess, by the name Anna (Luke 2:36) [not the same Hannah, mother of Samuel in the old testament]

We rarely remember the efforts of people like Anna today. In fact, asides the birth process which of course Mary (whom some people have turned to idols) played a role, a lot do not understand key factors in the fulfilment of his Ministry on earth.

If a woman could do nothing for 84 years but fasting and praying consistently for the birth of the son of God, then we don't have any excuse why we shouldn't pray.

Acidosis:

Great message you have here.

It is true that we are predestined by God but a lot is required of us to bring that calling into manifestation since there is always a contest and battle for the fulfilment of our purpose.

The birth of Jesus was predicted in the book of Isaiah. In spite being the son of God, a woman we rarely talk about in the Bible spent 84 years of her life praying and fasting in a temple for the manifestation of that prophecy. She was a prophetess, by the name Anna (Luke 2:36) [not the same Hannah, mother of Samuel in the old testament]

We rarely remember the efforts of people like Anna today. In fact, asides the birth process which of course Mary (whom some people have turned to idols) played a role, a lot do not understand key factors in the fulfilment of his Ministry on earth.

If a woman could do nothing for 84 years but fasting and praying consistently for the birth of the son of God, then we don't have any excuse why we shouldn't pray.

Finallydead:


You're asking reasonable questions but just a little problem, u seem to be asking from a position of God already got it wrong somewhere. Careful now! Whenever it seems that way, u can rightly assume you're just not seeing the whole picture Because God is a loving and just God and will do no evil to his creation and he dwells in the high heavens while you dwell on this low earth with a very myopic view compared to his Is 55:8-9 but as I said its ok to ask when u don't understand and to seek until you are satisfied.

Now to your query, God didn't create suffering, suffering is rather a state outside of his perfect design which we choose whenever we're tempted to go against his perfect will so we "create" and have been creating it even without knowing whenever we disobey Him. The story of Adam illustrates this There was no such suffering in Eden until Adam rebelled and continuous rebellion has led to increased suffering. God wants to rectify this that's why he came to suffer but he will have to have men cooperate with him and follow his righteousness because again he can effect nothing on earth without men's cooperation. Ps115:16, Mat 6:9-10.

Again you're totally wrong to think freewill cannot coexist with pre ordinations of God. I've already said so before, the preordination by God is for a certain goal and each of us is given the opportunity to do our part in fulfilling it but as that depends on our freewill we may never do it. That will not however stop Gods goal from being fulfilled boos someone else might even have to be born just to do what you failed to do and in the end Gods gaol is still accomplished. If I have a business and I want my sons to work with me and take it over eventually and they refuse, then if I were God I'd make me more children until I finally have some to do as I wish That way I don't force anyone to choose my will but I ensure my preordained will is eventually done.

frankobinna:



I learned something new from you today �

mylove4God:


Hmm..Nice explanation but I have always assumed that you were a mulslim.

Acidosis:

Great message you have here.

It is true that we are predestined by God but a lot is required of us to bring that calling into manifestation since there is always a contest and battle for the fulfilment of our purpose.

The birth of Jesus was predicted in the book of Isaiah. In spite being the son of God, a woman we rarely talk about in the Bible spent 84 years of her life praying and fasting in a temple for the manifestation of that prophecy. She was a prophetess, by the name Anna (Luke 2:36) [not the same Hannah, mother of Samuel in the old testament]

We rarely remember the efforts of people like Anna today. In fact, asides the birth process which of course Mary (whom some people have turned to idols) played a role, a lot do not understand key factors in the fulfilment of his Ministry on earth.

If a woman could do nothing for 84 years but fasting and praying consistently for the birth of the son of God, then we don't have any excuse why we shouldn't pray.

tintingz:

1. If God is love and good such thing as evil will never exist. He's the creator and knows every possible thing that will happen in future, so again if he's all loving and good, no evil will exist not even a room for it.

It's either God is incapable or he's malevolent.

2. God is said to be the creator of all, everything that exist still lead back to him being the cause except you want to tell him God didn't create all.

Like they say he's omnipotent and omniscient.

He can simply make amendment from onset since he posses those powers not this unecessary drama we read in religious texts.



3. Let me ask, before you are born, did God predestined your life? If yes, can you act independently from this predestination?

Finallydead:


Of course, you can act independently, he doesn't predestine your choice, he predestines his will/goal which will be ultimately achieved even if you fail to do your part which he predestined for you originally because someone/something else will be born to do it in your place. This is a very simple point we keep going over. There is such a thing as substitution when God sees you've made your choice against him. It's all over the scriptures with Eli and Samuel, Saul and David, Israel and the gentile church e.t.c.

tintingz:


- Again if God is good why did he create evil like Satan?

- What Justice is God looking for when he can see the future and knows everything?

- If I can act independently from God's predestination, does it mean God didn't know my fate?

Finallydead:


You're asking reasonable questions but just a little problem, u seem to be asking from a position of God already got it wrong somewhere. Careful now! Whenever it seems that way, u can rightly assume you're just not seeing the whole picture Because God is a loving and just God and will do no evil to his creation and he dwells in the high heavens while you dwell on this low earth with a very myopic view compared to his Is 55:8-9 but as I said its ok to ask when u don't understand and to seek until you are satisfied.

Now to your query, God didn't create suffering, suffering is rather a state outside of his perfect design which we choose whenever we're tempted to go against his perfect will so we "create" and have been creating it even without knowing whenever we disobey Him. The story of Adam illustrates this There was no such suffering in Eden until Adam rebelled and continuous rebellion has led to increased suffering. God wants to rectify this that's why he came to suffer but he will have to have men cooperate with him and follow his righteousness because again he can effect nothing on earth without men's cooperation. Ps115:16, Mat 6:9-10.

Again you're totally wrong to think freewill cannot coexist with pre ordinations of God. I've already said so before, the preordination by God is for a certain goal and each of us is given the opportunity to do our part in fulfilling it but as that depends on our freewill we may never do it. That will not however stop Gods goal from being fulfilled boos someone else might even have to be born just to do what you failed to do and in the end Gods gaol is still accomplished. If I have a business and I want my sons to work with me and take it over eventually and they refuse, then if I were God I'd make me more children until I finally have some to do as I wish That way I don't force anyone to choose my will but I ensure my preordained will is eventually done.

MiaB:
Your moniker tho

Finallydead:


Yeah, how bout it? and ur pic tho!

helinues:
Praying is more like a wish..

MiaB:
your moniker is contradicting with your posts, and about my dp don't judge a book by it's cover

Finallydead:


Look at my modified post, I think a careful reading would answer these questions
Again bro, don't be proud enough to think you can challenge His wisdom, even if you don't have reasonable answers to all questions in this world, you will in the end in eternity and you will only see where YOU (not God) missed a thing or two or overlooked something and even you at that time will admit without coercion that He is just when you see from His glorious light. So make up your mind to do right always even when you don't know all the answers and hope for as many answers as will come.

urchcoded:


I'm sorry to have a different opinion but do u Kno her praying and fasting was useless and inconsequential. Weda she prayed or not Christ was predestined to be born, to die and to resurrect. Likewise in our modern day, in as much as fasting is not bad. But B4 fasting ask ursef why are you fasting? Fasting for things like power, more grace, food, money is an insult to the holy spirit. God doesn't need ur fast anyway.
Study d word of God and pray for understanding.

Finallydead:

Really, how's my moniker doing that? and about your dp I wasnt thinking that pic was the cover of ur "book" believe me, (that might have been a little shallow of me too), I didn't even know if that was you at all. just thought it was strange.

MiaB:

helinues:


Must all my wishes be attributed to God?

Finallydead:

How does my moniker contradict my posts?

MiaB:
Sounds like someone that's suicidal and has finally given up on life. �

Hipsofagoddess:


Let's not forget that Jesus Christ came for the unbelievers, the broken hearted, the sick, the poor, the weak, the low in heart. Not for the rich.

AbdlRashid:


So the rich can't be an unbeliever. A rich person can't be sick, heart broken, weak and low in heart. So Jesus was only sent to the poor hence the reason the rich do have a special place in religious houses.

Acidosis:
Really? That's strange

africa4ever:
■So Why do we Pray?...In Conclusion God cares for us and that is why we should pray (1 Peter 5:7). God has placed so much interest in us that he wants us to get him involved in our daily activities. Our father is a great listener and he promises to help, protect, preserve and fulfill all his promises over our lives.

Acidosis:
■ Great message you have here. It is true that we are predestined by God but a lot is required of us to bring that calling into manifestation since there is always a contest and battle for the fulfilment of our purpose. The birth of Jesus was predicted in the book of Isaiah. In spite being the son of God, a woman we rarely talk about in the Bible spent 84 years of her life praying and fasting in a temple for the manifestation of that prophecy. She was a prophetess, by the name Anna (Luke 2:36) [not the same Hannah, mother of Samuel in the old testament]
■ We rarely remember the efforts of people like Anna today. In fact, asides the birth process which of course Mary (whom some people have turned to idols) played a role, a lot do not understand key factors in the fulfilment of his Ministry on earth. If a woman could do nothing for 84 years but fasting and praying consistently for the birth of the son of God, then we don't have any excuse why we shouldn't pray.

NigPatriot:
■ Your prayer is for your benefit, not God's benefit. Although God knows everything and wants the best for His kids, there is an adversary whose main goal is to kill steal and destroy. Your prayer is your weapon in fighting this adversary.

africa4ever:
Prayer is a strong weapon and force in this endtime. May God help us all IJN. Thanks for sharing.

■ Nice one, but it appears you left out the primary purpose of prayer which is the obedience of God's Word. To obey God's Word means the same thing as not falling into sin or temptation, and the reason the tempter comes to a person is make that person disobey God's Word, so prayer helps the person to make the tempter not succeed.
■ For a human being consists of two parts, the flesh and the spirit. So while the flesh which emanated from the world is inclined to the things of the world such as sin and disobedience of God's Word, the spirit which came from God is inclined to the things of God such as the obedience of God's Word. So prayer helps a human, who is also flesh, to interact with his spirit side life which is inclined to the obedience of God's Word, and hence helps the person not to sin or fall into temptation. God bless.

malvisguy212:
■ One thing you can say for sure is that a man who doesn't ask is not going to get it, a man who isn't looking for it isn't going to find it, and a man who doesn't knock on the door will never get it open.