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MiztaYouneek:
Let me first of all say that I am not trying to be tribalistic here or referring to all Nigerians in diaspora as the same. I know there are many good and humble fellows out there who know why they left Nigeria and are making positive impacts.

I lived in a country years back which was dominated by the yorubas and if you see how some of them behave you will really ponder how they keep succeeding in living in that country. No respect for their host citizens, always feeling they own the country especially some that have made money. I was in a Nigerian restaurant one day and one man who was older than me came and started speaking Yoruba for me just like that. Out of respect I told him I don't understand the language and then he asked me if I wasn't a Nigerian. I told him I was a Nigerian but obviously Nigeria is not an all Yoruba country. The had the guts to open that stinking mouth of his that I know is already caused to tell me that I should question God to ask why I wasn't born a Yoruba. I know for sure they must have deported him by now or he might be in prison or something because I don't see such kind of a person making any positive impact in his life.

That aside I also had other terrible experiences with these yoruba people but I can't share all here. The main point is that not all of them had bad characters but the majority of them that did have bad characters sometimes affect all Nigerians in general even those with good characters.

Years later I have moved to a very different country which is more of a French speaking country and it is dominated more by the igbos. Over here is worse than the other country dominated by yorubas. Many of these igbo guys have no atom of respect at all for their host citizens. They feel they are making money and always trying to oppress their host citizens. Sometimes if you see how they talk and insult the citizens in English without any consideration that some of these citizens understand English a little. What surprises me most times is when some of these people will be insulting the host citizens saying things like if it was in Nigeria they can't do such and how Nigeria is better than the country, but they left the same Nigeria they say is better to another country not like if the host country invited them. It is really sad because I believe only some few people who have really travelled will understand the little points am trying to make.

Just last night, I was with an igbo guy who runs a legit business and we were on our way home because we stay in same neighborhood. On the way we noticed a lot of police presence but we just kept moving. Immediately we got close to a junction we saw two police officers who stopped us and they were speaking French so I didn't understand what they said. The guy I was walking with understands and speak french very well so he was communicating with them. The only thing I noticed was that they were pointing somewhere for us to sit down just like on the ground. I peacefully went to sit down and this other guy refused to sit and kept talking to one of the police. I didn't know what was going on as there were other people around as well but all speaking French so I signaled the other police that was close to me and told him I don't understand French but I needed to know what the problem is. Luckily for me he could understand English and he asked me for my identification. I reached out to my wallet and showed him then he asked if I was a Nigerian and I said yes. He then told me I can go because all they wanted to see was my identification so he called the other police and told him I don't understand French but I had shown him my identification and they both asked me to go. That was when I realized that all those plenty talk my friend was talking was unnecessary because they only needed to see our identification. I then called him aside and told him to calm down and speak with them gently but to my surprise he brought out his phone and said he wants to call some of his other police friends. I believe that angered one of the police and the next thing I saw was that they started pushing him to go and sit down where they initially asked us to sit. He kept on resisting while speaking French with them and the next thing I saw was two truck load policemen. Seems they were all together doing the patrol around the area and the whole story changed immediately. The environment became intense and that's how they pushed this guy into the truck with other people that they had arrested as well.

As for me, when I saw the way everything got intense I had no choice but to leave the place and started running home. Like that old saying "na who run from war dey live to tell the story". And that is what I am doing. Up till now he has not been released and no one knows yet where he is.

The bottom line of this all is that, though I know he will be released, it was just a very simple matter that would have been avoided by just being humble and able to show some respect that would have solved the problem and prevented any form of arrest in that forceful manner.

I don't see what it takes for us as Nigerians, no matter the money we are making, to always be humble to our host and respect them irrespective of age or anything. We have to learn to stop that attitude of I am better than my host and Nigerians have more sense than they do.

Whenever you travel out to wherever, please learn to show more respect and always be humble no matter how rich you think you have become.

all that you have mentioned, blacks or Nigerians in those countries or anywhere in the world do receive far more worse treatments than this. its called do me i do you....as long as my papers are complete, why should i lick your ass because your country issued me a visa.

STOP BEING A SLAVE TO THE WHITE MAN...AM NOT SAYING CAUSE TROUBLE OR BE DISRESPECTFUL but all you have mentioned is a far worse norm that blacks and Nigerians get in return.

safarigirl:
perceived prejudice against your person.

What is simple instruction to you, might not be simple to someone else.

True, but considering how Nigerians --home and abroad-- can be, I wouldn't be quick to dismiss the OP's claims as petty. Except you think his basis on such claims are invalid and we should not be concerned.

Gerrard59:
Not just the aggressive culture but the quality of people who migrate to those countries. An instance is Malaysia, the kind of Nigerians who move to Malaysia is of very low quality compared to those who move to Singapore. This is because the former has a relaxed immigration process than the latter. Most of these people didn't finish secondary school or at best dropped out from the university. Similar behaviour displayed in Malaysia happens in Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia etc. To worsen issues, most Nigerians are loud mouthed and display criminal tendencies.

The poster above me said it all, when these set of persons behave stoopidly in Nigeria, how then do you expect them to behave rationally in foreign countries? And these are countries where the law works. It's why I don't feel for those who were affected by the xenophobia in South Africa (call me whatever you like) but until the vast majority of Nigerians start obeying the laws where they reside, they'd keep facing problems from the host. Furthermore, my mom who spent a greater number of years growing up in francophone countries across the continent explained that Nigerians especially Igbos tend to be loud mouthed, haughty, disobedient and dishonest to the host. Which is why according to her, most Nigerians were pursued while in Gabon when the Gabonese were fed up with their antics. There was a time she was in a restaurant in Togo when some ladies came to eat and during their ensuing discussion, they asked which country my mom and her colleagues come from. My mom responded Nigeria and these ladies left the restaurant! Thankfully, the set of Nigerians migrating to Canada are of a different mentality (similar to Singapore). However, the problem is that there's a tendency most will become "woke" and "liberal" and start demanding for rights they didn't ask while in Nigeria.

OP, my advise is that in a situation where the vast majority of Nigerians are brutish and rascally in behaviour, don't ever claim to be a Nigerian except to law authorities. Try as much as possible to disassociate yourself from them. Claim Ghanaian, Kenyan or Motswana (someone from Botswana)

P.S. So-called Nigerian intellectuals on social media will continue to blame foreigners for holding Nigerians accountable but there will come a time when the average Nigerian will be thoroughly despised and avoided. Also, stiffer immigration policies will make things harder to relocate because of brutish attitudes displayed by Nigerians. An instance was when Singapore cancelled the visa free status for Nigeria because most who utilised it were transporting drugs and Singapore has the death penalty. Today, it's extremely difficult to get a Singaporean visa from Nigeria even for those who got admitted to INSEAD Singapore campus. You must prove all provable to be granted visa. But hey, "foreigners are against us", "they're jealous of our hustling spirit". Nonsense and ingredients hustling!

You have said it all

I learnt to be humble wherever I found myself.

Chai

Nna ehh

How did I find myself among these people?

Nigerians are noisy set of human beings

Always shouting,screaming and wailing

Op well said

HarryDuce:
True, but considering how Nigerians --home and abroad-- can be, I wouldn't be quick to dismiss the OP's claims as petty. Except you think his basis on such claims are invalid and we should not be concerned.

I said "some" sounded petty.

obiekunie2:
i dont giv a fuk if u r fulani!

all am saying is dont stereotype!

Nigerians have their serious issues abroad! DONT SINGLE OUT IGBOS!

You can see how stupid you are..
A discussion that started in a mature manner irrespective of tribe and you turned it to something that looks like your dirty brain. There are bad eggs in every tribe. We should collectively sort them out and identify them based on their behavior, not their tribe.

Anyway, Joe Igbokwe is doing very well in Lagos and we love him. Yes, I’m Yoruba.

Ode!!

This is the unfiltered truth i've been trying to tell people for a while now.

Blacks are far more xenophobic, prejudiced and racist than the white man in this day and age.

The only reason why we never truly had a good chance to show these "qualities"is because we've never had the upper hand. We've always been backwards so we've been the race preyed upon rather than the reverse.

What happened in South Africa is just a small microcosm of what the black man is capable of when faced with mass immigration into his Country from lesser Countries. The funny thing is that the blacks in South Africa are in no way responsible for how well the nation is doing. It's all thanks to the Apartheid Dutch Colonists (and some Indians) who built that Country up to what it is today. The black (South Africans) will destroy the Nation given half the chance.

lonlytroy:
Blacks are more recist than white i swear

tommy589:
The OP is clever by half. He is downplaying the rudeness of a particular tribe to their hosts by picking the two trybes to share the blames.What you do amongst your countrymen irrespective of trybes is likely what you do outside the country.
To know if he has painted a true picture of what he claimed he experienced outside Nigeria,we should ask Nigerians of other trybes to tell us their experiences on manners or lack of it from Igbos and Yorubas who sojourn in their communities .

Like I said, this has nothing to do with tribe. I have good friends friends from different tribes including the ones I mentioned. I made my point from an angle of my experience and I also ensured you understand that I am addressing Nigerians in general. If you personally pick an offense with my post then it shows that you probably lack proper understanding and you are just the one thinking of the tribal stuff in your head, not me.

Nigsrdumb:
Why do Nigerians call black Americans akata,when they themselves are worse.
After careful consideration, I am convinced there's a low iq issue in Nigeria.
All this nonesense talk about Nigerians being smart is silly.
I am beginning to have a deep seated hatred for that country and the people.
Nigerians deserve the politicians they get along with all the sufferings attached.
I have started claiming Benin as my country..shekena

Nigerians are not smart. What they call smartness is actually "cutting corners."

If Nigerians were truly smart, then, this country should have been the most developed. But it is still a shit hole.

MiztaYouneek:
Let me first of all say that I am not trying to be tribalistic here or referring to all Nigerians in diaspora as the same. I know there are many good and humble fellows out there who know why they left Nigeria and are making positive impacts.

I lived in a country years back which was dominated by the yorubas and if you see how some of them behave you will really ponder how they keep succeeding in living in that country. No respect for their host citizens, always feeling they own the country especially some that have made money. I was in a Nigerian restaurant one day and one man who was older than me came and started speaking Yoruba for me just like that. Out of respect I told him I don't understand the language and then he asked me if I wasn't a Nigerian. I told him I was a Nigerian but obviously Nigeria is not an all Yoruba country. The had the guts to open that stinking mouth of his that I know is already caused to tell me that I should question God to ask why I wasn't born a Yoruba. I know for sure they must have deported him by now or he might be in prison or something because I don't see such kind of a person making any positive impact in his life.

That aside I also had other terrible experiences with these yoruba people but I can't share all here. The main point is that not all of them had bad characters but the majority of them that did have bad characters sometimes affect all Nigerians in general even those with good characters.

Years later I have moved to a very different country which is more of a French speaking country and it is dominated more by the igbos. Over here is worse than the other country dominated by yorubas. Many of these igbo guys have no atom of respect at all for their host citizens. They feel they are making money and always trying to oppress their host citizens. Sometimes if you see how they talk and insult the citizens in English without any consideration that some of these citizens understand English a little. What surprises me most times is when some of these people will be insulting the host citizens saying things like if it was in Nigeria they can't do such and how Nigeria is better than the country, but they left the same Nigeria they say is better to another country not like if the host country invited them. It is really sad because I believe only some few people who have really travelled will understand the little points am trying to make.

Just last night, I was with an igbo guy who runs a legit business and we were on our way home because we stay in same neighborhood. On the way we noticed a lot of police presence but we just kept moving. Immediately we got close to a junction we saw two police officers who stopped us and they were speaking French so I didn't understand what they said. The guy I was walking with understands and speak french very well so he was communicating with them. The only thing I noticed was that they were pointing somewhere for us to sit down just like on the ground. I peacefully went to sit down and this other guy refused to sit and kept talking to one of the police. I didn't know what was going on as there were other people around as well but all speaking French so I signaled the other police that was close to me and told him I don't understand French but I needed to know what the problem is. Luckily for me he could understand English and he asked me for my identification. I reached out to my wallet and showed him then he asked if I was a Nigerian and I said yes. He then told me I can go because all they wanted to see was my identification so he called the other police and told him I don't understand French but I had shown him my identification and they both asked me to go. That was when I realized that all those plenty talk my friend was talking was unnecessary because they only needed to see our identification. I then called him aside and told him to calm down and speak with them gently but to my surprise he brought out his phone and said he wants to call some of his other police friends. I believe that angered one of the police and the next thing I saw was that they started pushing him to go and sit down where they initially asked us to sit. He kept on resisting while speaking French with them and the next thing I saw was two truck load policemen. Seems they were all together doing the patrol around the area and the whole story changed immediately. The environment became intense and that's how they pushed this guy into the truck with other people that they had arrested as well.

As for me, when I saw the way everything got intense I had no choice but to leave the place and started running home. Like that old saying "na who run from war dey live to tell the story". And that is what I am doing. Up till now he has not been released and no one knows yet where he is.

The bottom line of this all is that, though I know he will be released, it was just a very simple matter that would have been avoided by just being humble and able to show some respect that would have solved the problem and prevented any form of arrest in that forceful manner.

I don't see what it takes for us as Nigerians, no matter the money we are making, to always be humble to our host and respect them irrespective of age or anything. We have to learn to stop that attitude of I am better than my host and Nigerians have more sense than they do.

Whenever you travel out to wherever, please learn to show more respect and always be humble no matter how rich you think you have become.

Thank you OP. You are unofficially, a self-appointed, world renowned tribalised behavioural expert in the Yoruba ways.

Your tribe has a reputation for being perfect and model citizens wherever they are from South Africa, Vietnam, Malaysia, India, USA, UK to Thailand...need i go on?

I rest my case.

olu77:
Charity begins at home I agree.

Nigerians have wrong role models at home. It's shameful, sad and unimaginable how loud, carefree, and aggressively we talk without consideration...despite all there are still a lot of civilised and considerate Nigerians though we bear the brunt.

exactly so

we need to have Frank discussions amongst ourselves
and tell ourselves the truth

Rubicon67:
Thank you OP. You are unofficially, a self-appointed, world renowned tribalised behavioural expert in the Yoruba ways.

Your tribe has a reputation for being perfect and model citizens wherever they are from South Africa, Vietnam, Malaysia, India, USA, UK to Thailand...need i go on?

I rest my case.

You see your life?

Ugosample:
You see your life?

Wetin do your life?

You talk well, stay blessed.
You have to be level headed and calm to live in western countries. There ain't no room for defensiveness, jaguda and agberoism. May we be filled with calm at all times.

MiztaYouneek:
Let me first of all say that I am not trying to be tribalistic here or referring to all Nigerians in diaspora as the same. I know there are many good and humble fellows out there who know why they left Nigeria and are making positive impacts.

I lived in a country years back which was dominated by the yorubas and if you see how some of them behave you will really ponder how they keep succeeding in living in that country. No respect for their host citizens, always feeling they own the country especially some that have made money. I was in a Nigerian restaurant one day and one man who was older than me came and started speaking Yoruba for me just like that. Out of respect I told him I don't understand the language and then he asked me if I wasn't a Nigerian. I told him I was a Nigerian but obviously Nigeria is not an all Yoruba country. The had the guts to open that stinking mouth of his that I know is already caused to tell me that I should question God to ask why I wasn't born a Yoruba. I know for sure they must have deported him by now or he might be in prison or something because I don't see such kind of a person making any positive impact in his life.

That aside I also had other terrible experiences with these yoruba people but I can't share all here. The main point is that not all of them had bad characters but the majority of them that did have bad characters sometimes affect all Nigerians in general even those with good characters.

Years later I have moved to a very different country which is more of a French speaking country and it is dominated more by the igbos. Over here is worse than the other country dominated by yorubas. Many of these igbo guys have no atom of respect at all for their host citizens. They feel they are making money and always trying to oppress their host citizens. Sometimes if you see how they talk and insult the citizens in English without any consideration that some of these citizens understand English a little. What surprises me most times is when some of these people will be insulting the host citizens saying things like if it was in Nigeria they can't do such and how Nigeria is better than the country, but they left the same Nigeria they say is better to another country not like if the host country invited them. It is really sad because I believe only some few people who have really travelled will understand the little points am trying to make.

Just last night, I was with an igbo guy who runs a legit business and we were on our way home because we stay in same neighborhood. On the way we noticed a lot of police presence but we just kept moving. Immediately we got close to a junction we saw two police officers who stopped us and they were speaking French so I didn't understand what they said. The guy I was walking with understands and speak french very well so he was communicating with them. The only thing I noticed was that they were pointing somewhere for us to sit down just like on the ground. I peacefully went to sit down and this other guy refused to sit and kept talking to one of the police. I didn't know what was going on as there were other people around as well but all speaking French so I signaled the other police that was close to me and told him I don't understand French but I needed to know what the problem is. Luckily for me he could understand English and he asked me for my identification. I reached out to my wallet and showed him then he asked if I was a Nigerian and I said yes. He then told me I can go because all they wanted to see was my identification so he called the other police and told him I don't understand French but I had shown him my identification and they both asked me to go. That was when I realized that all those plenty talk my friend was talking was unnecessary because they only needed to see our identification. I then called him aside and told him to calm down and speak with them gently but to my surprise he brought out his phone and said he wants to call some of his other police friends. I believe that angered one of the police and the next thing I saw was that they started pushing him to go and sit down where they initially asked us to sit. He kept on resisting while speaking French with them and the next thing I saw was two truck load policemen. Seems they were all together doing the patrol around the area and the whole story changed immediately. The environment became intense and that's how they pushed this guy into the truck with other people that they had arrested as well.

As for me, when I saw the way everything got intense I had no choice but to leave the place and started running home. Like that old saying "na who run from war dey live to tell the story". And that is what I am doing. Up till now he has not been released and no one knows yet where he is.

The bottom line of this all is that, though I know he will be released, it was just a very simple matter that would have been avoided by just being humble and able to show some respect that would have solved the problem and prevented any form of arrest in that forceful manner.

I don't see what it takes for us as Nigerians, no matter the money we are making, to always be humble to our host and respect them irrespective of age or anything. We have to learn to stop that attitude of I am better than my host and Nigerians have more sense than they do.

Whenever you travel out to wherever, please learn to show more respect and always be humble no matter how rich you think you have become.

AwkaetitiBabe:
The ones here should learn good behavior first

exactly

UjuJoan2:
That's how one hospital in Texas started rejecting Nigerian mothers coming for childbirth. 'Big women' talking to nurses rudely because they came to give birth on America. Nobody told them that American nurses are not hungry and unprofessional like Nigerian nurses. By the time they were all blacklisted their eyes opened.

Yeye people!

All these yeye character Nigerians exhibit sef

it's just too bad

MrBrownJay1:
Proper upbringing has a lot to do with it....

You are right

MiztaYouneek:
Like I said, this has nothing to do with tribe. I have good friends friends from different tribes including the ones I mentioned. I made my point from an angle of my experience and I also ensured you understand that I am addressing Nigerians in general. If you personally pick an offense with my post then it shows that you probably lack proper understanding and you are just the one thinking of the tribal stuff in your head, not me.

It is about your perception Of Igbos and Yorubas from the countries you mentioned..You need to know you got it wrong.From my visits to those places, and interaction with their nationalities I did not witness where my trybesmen,including the criminals among them were branded or I see them act loud or showoff. They have traded/ived in those nations several decades before Nigeria experienced economic downturn without any negative report about them.

What a silly title for an article that may have made some sense.

Nigerians in Diaspora should behave , lol.

99.5% of Nigerians in Diaspora do actually behave.

God bless you my sister, keep it up,God will always give grace to the humble and reject the prude, humility is a virtue that will always keep you going on in life, Nice write up.

blackmantis:
Op you could have applied more tact by not mentioning any trybe while trying to pass your message.

Why should anyone be offended by what he said

what he said is the TRUTH
from his own experience

I'm an igbo man
yes

but I can't be offended by what he said

No rational person should

that is one of our problems in this country

frosbel2:
What a silly title for an article that may have made some sense.

Nigerians in Diaspora should behave , lol.

99.5% of Nigerians in Diaspora do actually behave.

that's not true

if you have travelled and been in different countries like some of us here

You will not be talking like this

Nigerians have to be one of the worst behaved Africans there

You're damn right bro. A lot of Nigerian folks abroad have attitude problems like they own their host country.
If you live in another man's land, you gotta show some respect and regard to him, it's not rocket science.

DannyCool1:
[s]You can see how stupid you are..
A discussion that started in a mature manner irrespective of tribe and you turned it to something that looks like your dirty brain. There are bad eggs in every tribe. We should collectively sort them out and identify them based on their behavior, not their tribe.

Anyway, Joe Igbokwe is doing very well in Lagos and we love him. Yes, I’m Yoruba.

Ode!![/s]

clap for yourself!

You got your one minute of fame - now crawl back to your cockroach infested slum dwelling and continue with your frustration.

thank you.

Ugosample:
Why should anyone be offended by what he said

what he said is the TRUTH
from his own experience

I'm an igbo man
yes

but I can't be offended by what he said

No rational person should

that is one of our problems in this country

be proud of your tribal marks!

you can only keep wishing you are Igbo - sadly wishes ain't horses!

Op, you no lie.from your post i guess you are in some African country.

Well, i was in this bus heading home one night, when these two ibo boys with their bags, they alighted from one of the coaches just arriving from Accra and joined the bus apparently we are heading to same area. You won't believe that in less than 5 minutes, my brethrens picked a fight with one drunkard in the bus, everyone was calming them down that the man they are fighting is actually a drunkard, first, they don't know where they are going, second, they don't understand the language, one had a ring in one ear forming bad man with his flat head bigger than his whole body, they were calling their other friends who prolly has been here and their host telling him how they want to deal with the drunkard in his own country which they are actually new in/to.

I saw they were one bunch of bastards, i didn't say a word cuz if i do they'd know i was a Nigerian too and i just don't want anything associating me and those useless folks. I just can't tell the story finish jare my brother buh i have vex a fellow Nigerian like that in my life.

Come and see the way they were fighting themselves inside the market the other day too saying one of them is abakaliki and hence is not ibo buh osu while that one was ready to die whenever they call him that name, ghanaians try separate them wey dem no dey here na so dem go call police come carry them go.

They'd go to another mans country and be acting like their fore-father is the owner of the people and their land and they wonder why they are hated all over the world. Smh

UncleJudax:
Well, we are inherently divided. So, nationally, it would be almost impossible to get people in line because everything is partisan.

I say we start locally. Smaller governments.

Regional government would be better for the country...but ofcos, may never happen, since the present status is working for the elists

A sad fact about politics in Nigeria

@ Gerrard59 you really dealt with these people very well.

This is technical knock out.

Adams12345:
God bless you my sister, keep it up,God will always give grace to the humble and reject the prude, humility is a virtue that will always keep you going on in life, Nice write up.

how you take know say the op na sister?

frosbel2:
What a silly title for an article that may have made some sense.

Nigerians in Diaspora should behave , lol.

99.5% of Nigerians in Diaspora do actually behave.

That's a damn lie... the majority are loud, conceited, quick to show BS bravado, especially when they suddenly have some little money.

It's so easy to spot Nigerians abroad, they are exactly as they are in Nigeria.