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| Re: T by MuttleyLaff: 6:52pm On Oct 02, 2019*. Modified: 7:29pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
@^^^^ Yinmu jesusjnr:smello yeye dey smell son of Belial, son of disobedience, "His Eminence" self proclaimed prophet attention seeking jesusjnr |
| Re: T by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:10pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
jesusjnr:Didn't you see me alight at the Jesus bus stop? I have since gotten off the bus but you are still enjoying the ride. Get off before the bus arrives at it's hell destination. |
| Re: T by Nobody: 7:13pm On Oct 02, 2019*. Modified: 1:08am On Oct 06, 2019 |
shadeyinka:[s]That's where you are getting it wrong as most of your fellow christians because the covenant God used was the Abrahamic of circumcision not that of Jesus. So it is misleading to use the yardstick of Christ or Christianity to measure Islam, for if you do that, you would get it completely wrong, because that is not the standard used by God to build the faith, but it's that of Judaism. Hence you observe how similar the tenets of Islam are when compared to Judaism for God is just doing a similar thing He did with Moses concerning the children of Israel, perhaps the only difference apart from the people and messenger He used is the time. Concerning instructions from Allah, it must not be direct, as what happened to Mohammed is similar to what happened to Daniel. Go and read it and compare. And there's another Prophet that had a similar experience, probably Jeremiah, so observe and compare without sentiments and you'd see that it wasn't an unusual procedure for God to reveal things to and through His prophets. God bless.[/s] |
| Re: T by Nobody: 7:18pm On Oct 02, 2019*. Modified: 1:08am On Oct 06, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:[s]Lol! Ok if you no longer believe the Torah, which is very similar to the Koran, was given to Moses by God then you have alighted from your imaginary bus.[/s] |
| Re: T by CaveAdullam: 7:21pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
jesusjnr:You are confuse oga. Trace your steps backward and repent Mr jesusjnr. All this things may you dey yarn na dust. |
| Re: T by Nobody: 7:23pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
CaveAdullam:Same to you bro. Same to you. |
| Re: T by shadeyinka(m): 7:25pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
jesusjnr:If Islam came before Christianity, you might have a point. But it came after the Blood of Christ had been shed. Acts 4:12: "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Ask any sincere Muslim this question: Is Allah the same as Jehovah? Maybe this will answer your questions. Mohamed copied the Jewish religion and Christianity and from the two synthesized a new religion called Islam. You are silent on why Allah hates the Jew so much:Why? The relationship between Allah and Mohamed is such as to make us believe that Allah is actually Mohammed's servant. Can Mohamed do wrong? No! Allah makes sure Mohamed is always justified. I remember the case of David and Bathsheba compared with Mohamed and Aisha: the two God's are different. |
| Re: T by Nobody: 7:31pm On Oct 02, 2019*. Modified: 1:09am On Oct 06, 2019 |
shadeyinka:[s]So is it just the timing? So how about the Jewish nation which generally do not believe in Jesus, and rejected Him, do you think there's yet any hope of salvation for them?[/s] |
| Re: T by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:34pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
jesusjnr:How is the Torah similar to the Qur'an? The Torah is the 1st 5 books of Moses and they are the inspired words of God and these were all fulfilled in Christ as He had come to fulfil them. |
| Re: T by Nobody: 7:39pm On Oct 02, 2019*. Modified: 1:10am On Oct 06, 2019 |
shadeyinka:[s]I'm silent about the bolded? Haven't I already addressed that with the instance of His instruction for Israel to annihilate their brother Benjamin? Is it not also the same way Jehovah hated Israel so much because of their rebellious attitude He wanted to destroy them in the wilderness before Moses pleaded with Him? You forgot about how Jehovah brought nations to render the land of Israel desolate for about seventy years? I said it before, it's sentiments that makes you not see the similarities between the attitude of Allah and Jehovah. Pure sentiments and nothing else like most christians.[/s] |
| Re: T by MuttleyLaff: 7:43pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
jesusjnr:What have you got to say to shadeyinka, telling you jesusjnr that: "Ask any sincere Muslim this question: Is Allah the same as Jehovah? Maybe this will answer your questions." |
| Re: T by Nobody: 7:44pm On Oct 02, 2019*. Modified: 1:11am On Oct 06, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:[s]That means you're still in the bus, if you don't see the similarities in doctrines, laws, principles etc. You know about stoning to death right, and eye for an eye, polygamy, ablution, animal sacrifices, violence etc., very similar and they still observe them up till date.[/s] |
| Re: T by MuttleyLaff: 7:55pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
jesusjnr:@^^^ smh |
| Re: T by shadeyinka(m): 7:56pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
jesusjnr:If I get you, the summary of what you now believe is that the blood of Jesus was a waste as people can still enter the kingdom of heaven without Christ. Jesusjnr, I am afraid you are threading the path of error. |
| Re: T by shadeyinka(m): 7:59pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
jesusjnr:Test all spirits! Satan do masquerade as an angel of light. Rom 9:27: "Isaiah also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:" |
| Re: T by shadeyinka(m): 8:12pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
jesusjnr:Was there anywhere where an angel spoke to man AND the angel was not known to be from the Lord. And the proof of prophet-hood is not that an angel spoke to me but I hear the Lord said.... The Islamic Jesus will abolish Christianity and convert all Christians to Muslims. The Islamic Jesus will kill all the Jews. The Islamic Jesus will marry a wife, give birth to children, die at old age and be buried beside Mohamed. And you still feel we are operating by the same Spirit? The spirit almost strangled Mohamed for not reading. |
| Re: T by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:33pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
jesusjnr:"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil" (Matthew 5:17). What part of the fact that Christ came to fulfil the law don't you understand? And if Christ had fulfilled the Torah why would there be the need for another law (Qu'ran)? ![]() |
| Re: T by Shepherd00: 10:29pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
Hmmm. This Jesusjnr guy is a serious loony case o. The Muslims are saying he is wrong. The Christians are saying he is wrong, but he says all of them are wrong, only him is right. Lord have mercy and deliver this soul from satan. |
| Re: T by Nobody: 11:16pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Nah muttley. Someone prayed an unchristian prayer and instead of calling him out you second him? Jesusjnr is an ass, but praying such a prayer for someone is worse off than jnr supposed false teaching! Back to the bone of contention-the topic. As a Christian I saw nothing wrong with Calling Allah God.is it Because he is worshipped by Muslims? Why does it seem a taboo to call Allah God? I think the issue is so sensitive and require personal revelations as the Bible may not contain all evidences to back up or debunk the claims that Allah is God Needless to say, things shouldn't be debunked because they sound absurd or not what we are used to knowing... |
| Re: T by Nobody: 3:27am On Oct 03, 2019*. Modified: 1:12am On Oct 06, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:[s]The Torah which Christ fulfilled was not given to the nation of Ismael but Israel. It was the Koran that was specifically given to the nation of Ishmael to follow the same procedure of Israel before the Truth of the fulfilment would be revealed to them.[/s] |
| Re: T by Nobody: 3:58am On Oct 03, 2019*. Modified: 1:13am On Oct 06, 2019 |
shadeyinka:[s]Still towing the line of sentiments as usual, for I gave you instances in the Bible to corroborate what happened to Mohammed with respect to angel, instead of doing that you're still here reiterating the same thing. You are supposed to know better than the bolded point, for how would you expect someone who never knew the Lord to know that the angel that spoke to him came from the Lord? Even in the Bible where there was the history of angels appearing to people, why was there yet instances where people yet questioned who met with them like in the instance of the mother of Samson? Sentiments I say again is beclouding your judgment of that matter of Mohammed's encounter with angel Gabriel, hence your saying that the angel almost strangled him, if not tell me why almost? I'd provide the instance of Daniel after meeting with the same angel Gabriel, and you tell me the difference. Mind you Mohammed was a stark illiterate and didn't know God when that happened to him, but Daniel was arguably the most knowledgeable person on Earth who already walked with God and knew a lot about angels before this. Daniel 8:15-19, 27 (KJV) 15 And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man. 16 And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision. 17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision. 18 Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright. 19 And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be. 27 And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king's business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.[/s] |
| Re: T by Nobody: 4:17am On Oct 03, 2019*. Modified: 1:14am On Oct 06, 2019 |
shadeyinka:[s]You didn't answer the question I asked you about Israel! Have you forgotten that Ishmael and consequently his descendants were also part of the Abrahamic covenant of circumcision with God, and also children of Abraham? So even if you and your fellow christians forgot that, do you think that the God with whom Abraham had the covenant also forgot about them? When it comes to Israel, you'd not remember to test all spirits, but if it's Ishmael, your preconceptions and sentiments against Islam becomes the right spirit, and not the devil masquerading as the angel of light. Tell me why a remnant of Israel would yet be saved despite their rejection and condemnation of Jesus who brought salvation? By what means would they be saved without accepting the Jesus? You should begin to see why I said the contrary position of you and your fellow christians concerning Islam is purely sentimental and not objective.[/s] |
| Re: T by Nobody: 4:55am On Oct 03, 2019*. Modified: 1:14am On Oct 06, 2019 |
shadeyinka:[s]You asked why Allah hated Israel so much which is one of the reasons you denounce Him as God, and I gave you instances of to prove that Jehovah wasn't any different from Allah in that respect, to debunk the basis mere Anti-Islam sentiments. Instead of accepting that truth, you went to summarize what you believe is my belief out of sentiments. So you mean that a remnant of Israel also being saved without accepting or believing in Jesus in a summary is the bolded for you? You have refused to see the truth that you are threading the path of anti-Islam sentiments on this matter, hence this is my last response to you in this regard. God bless.[/s] |
| Re: T by shadeyinka(m): 5:09am On Oct 03, 2019 |
jesusjnr:I'm praying for you. Haven't you side stepped every objection of contradiction I've raised (apart from Allah hating Israel). Even Muslims do not believe your new doctrine. Ask them? Before long, Buddhists will also be said to be born again by you. You are clearly on the path of error and your Monika is a pure deception! |
| Re: T by shadeyinka(m): 5:20am On Oct 03, 2019 |
jesusjnr:It is you who haven't been objective and I am disappointed. The same Islam you now preach rejects the crucifixion, death and resurrection of Jesus. 1 John 2:22: "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son." Qur'an 43:81 Say [O Prophet]: “If the Most Gracious [truly] had a son, I would be the first to worship him!” Don't be possessed by the spirit of the anti Christ. |
| Re: T by MuttleyLaff: 5:27am On Oct 03, 2019*. Modified: 6:49pm On Oct 26, 2019 |
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| Re: T by MuttleyLaff: 5:29am On Oct 03, 2019*. Modified: 6:48pm On Oct 26, 2019 |
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| Re: T by MuttleyLaff: 5:30am On Oct 03, 2019*. Modified: 6:51pm On Oct 26, 2019 |
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| Re: T by MuttleyLaff: 5:31am On Oct 03, 2019*. Modified: 1:11pm On Oct 03, 2019 |
Michellekabod2: MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff:Nah Michellekabod2, you're looking at all these with and/or from the other end of the telescope Someone prayed Michellekabod2:I'll rather feed crumbs to bums than feed a jesusjnr snake with steak. jesusjnr, like I've earlier advised him, should start taking super hot showers to practice getting used to burning in the lake of fire, thats if if doesnt repent or 180 degrees change Michellekabod2:Michellekabod2, nobody, because of biscuit, calls a dog or monkey, bros now. Do you see anything wrong or right in shadeyinka, telling jesusjnr that: "Ask any sincere Muslim this question: Is Allah the same as Jehovah? Maybe this will answer your questions." Michellekabod2:"16While Paul was waiting for them in Athens, his spirit was troubled within him when he saw that the city was full of idols. 17So he reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and with those who worshiped God and in the marketplace every day with those who happened to be there. 18Then also, some of the Epicurean and Stoic philosophers argued with him. Some said, “What is this pseudo-intellectual trying to say?" (i.e. What is this blabbermouth trying to say?) Others replied, “He seems to be a preacher of foreign deities” — because he was telling the good news about Jesus and the Resurrection. 30“Therefore, having overlookedae the times of ignorance, God now commands all people everywhere to repent, 31because He has set a day when He is going to judge the world in righteousness by the Man He has appointed. He has provided proof of this to everyone by raising Him from the dead.” 32When they heard about resurrection of the dead, some began to ridicule him. But others said, “We’d like to hear from you again about this.”" -Acts 17:16-18; 30-32 Michellekabod2, it is because He is worshipped in ignorance. It is because He is worshipped in denial of the divinity and resurrection of Jesus Christ by Muslims Michellekabod2:God showed and told who He really is. People are ignorant of an absolute truth, that though, permissibly and in the circumstances used, really, Allah is not God Michellekabod2:"God also said to Moses, "Say this to the Israelites: Yahweh, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever; this is how I am to be remembered in every generation."" - Exodus 3:15 "I am Yahweh, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another or My praise to idols." - Isaiah 42:8 "even Yahweh, the God of Armies; Yahweh is His name of renown!" - Hosea 12:5 Michellekabod2, permissible amount of sentimentality under the circumstances, because most minds are not ready or capable to accept the reality that Allah is not Yahweh, God. Michellekabod2:Lets stop hanging out with people that tell us what we want to hear, but hang out with people who tell us the truth. Why cant we commit ourselves to the truth, to see truth like it is and tell it like it is, hmm? Michellekabod2, isn't it a bad thing to be deceived about the truth, and a good thing to know what the truth is? For I assume that by knowing the truth, this means, knowing things as they really are, like that, God isnt necessarily Allah. Michellekabod2, stupid is knowing the truth, seeing the truth, but still believing the lies by trying to force together, pieces that don't fit. |
| Re: T by shadeyinka(m): 5:37am On Oct 03, 2019 |
jesusjnr:And I believe you can see how the angel tried to strangle Daniel! I am afraid for you. I pray that that demon that had been injecting false revelations into you will be exposed for you to know the real truth of what it is. Till then and before you add Joseph Smith to the list of your prophets. Acts 4:12: "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." |
| Re: T by Amujale(m): 12:57pm On Oct 03, 2019 |
All Abrahamic religious text are false, fake and counterintuitive. |
| Re: T by Amujale(m): 12:58pm On Oct 03, 2019 |
There isnt one character or storyline present in all of Abrahamic religious text that can claim to being original; if they wasnt stolen, they was copied, plagerised, sexed-up or outrightly fabricated. |
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