So, this Rashduct4luv guy created a thread filled with misinformation on the spread of Islam. I'm forced to create this thread because as I've explained in the past, there is no future for Islam. In the 21st century, the only reason Islam still thrives is because unlike Christianity today, it is protected by law from any kind of intellectual attack.

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Introduction - A brief look at Christchurch Mosque shooter
Muslims as tools of the western far Leftists

Introduction - A brief look at Christchurch Mosque shooter.

Who still remember the Christchurch mosque massacre early this year, where a Caucasian youth open fire and laid to waste 50 Muslims on a Friday Jumaah service in New Zealand?

Although the Muslims bemoaned Islamophobia, this white shooter admit in his manifesto that he had nothing against Islam, but was concerned about the demographic shift threatening to replace whites in New Zealand with South Asians and African migrants, many of whom turned out to be Muslims. In other words, he wants New Zealand to remain predominantly white, just as Pakistan is predominantly brown and Somali is predominantly black.

Consider the Christchurch mosque. This was formerly a church, that had been demolished and a mosque was now built in its place. In the middle ages, when Muslims conquered a Christian territory, they demolished churches or sacred sites of Christians and built mosques in their place. The most famous case of this is Masjid al aqsa in Jerusalem.

Today Muslims don't even need to conquer New Zealand or Germany, Muslim governments like the Wahhabis of Saudi or the neo-ottomans of Turkey can just fund the purchase of sites and erect any mosque in almost anywhere in the western world. Destruction of sacred Christian sites to build Muslim sites is in fact erosion of a significant relics and history of the west, Christianity. It is an aggressive and insulting act associated with invasion.

Muslims as tools of the western far Leftists

When we think of warfare, we think of bullets, airstrikes, bomb blasts, bloodshed, property damage, and death. We think of Palestine, Iraq or Syria. But there is a certain type of war going on in the west and its weapon is mass immigration of non-Europeans to European regions in the name of diversity, multiculturalism, or supplementation the declining birthrate of ethnic Europeans.

Many Muslims today would not pass an offer to migrate to the west. To these Muslims, moving to the west is securing a better future for themselves or their families. I was one of such Muslim in the past but I changed my mind because I have seen a demographic/cultural war has been set off in the west by Zionists and Communists to destroy the west from within, and their chosen weapon this time are Muslims and non-Europeans.

It has been long postulated that Islam is the future of Europe. We did not know what this meant at the time, but from the mass migration of Muslims into Europe, the rapid population boom of Muslims in Europe, to the criminalization of 'Islamophobia', and to the maligning of Christian and European identity and history, we are in the last days of western civilization.

The enemies of the west at this point have taken Muslims as allies to help displace Christianity with Islam and replace Europeans with non Europeans. Which is why we have the White house hosting Iftaar every Ramadan, politicians condoning niqab & female genital mutilation in the name of freedom of religious expression; while same politicians prefer to say 'Happy holiday' instead of 'Happy Christmas', or refers to the victims of Sri Lankan bombings as 'Easter worshippers', rather than 'Christians'.

Now this unholy alliance of the enemies of the west - the far Left- and Muslims is built upon a shared goal to destroy the west. The far Left and the Muslims have nothing else in common. Once the west has fallen, the Left and the Muslims will immediately turn against each other.

How the American Muslims serve the Liberal anarchists

Liberalism is a good thing, but like every good thing, too much of it is bad. For instance, liberals pushed for minority rights, freedom of belief and expression, secularism and other human rights values. But it is liberal that also pushed for decriminalizing adultery, alcohol consumption, pornography, promotion of all kinds of materialism and hedonism that eventually bring moral decay to society.

Like in any western country, Muslims vote overwhelmingly for the liberal party in US - the democrats. In 2008 and 2012, Muslims voted for Barack Obama. In 2016, Muslims voted for Hilary Clinton. The democrats often court the Muslims by cracking down on alleged Islamophobia, permitting headscarf or face veil in public space, increasing immigration for Muslims or increasing Muslim representatives in their party.

To most Muslims the conservative parties that want to keep Islam and its archaic laws at least from overthrow of secular democracy and laws, is the enemy. Trump, of the conservative party, the republicans, has no support in the Muslim community because he promised to end migration from Muslim countries, while Hilary who wanted to increase immigration from Muslim countries is the friend of Muslims or at least, the lesser of the two evils.

Trump is the enemy of Muslims because he moved the US embassy to Jerusalem but Obama is the friend of Muslims because he refused to use the term 'Radical Islam', even though he bombed 7 Muslim countries. Obama, the democrat became the first US president to legalize homosexual marriage, a union that majority of Muslims abhor. In near future, another democrat president will legalize child marriage and he will be elected by Muslims.

In 2019, Ilhan Omar became the second Muslim and first Muslim female member of US house of Rep., of Minnesota. Ilhan Omar of the democratic party is from Somalia. Her fellow democrat, Obama and his administration launched airstrikes and military raids in Somalia.

Obama administration led the manhunt and killing of Osama bin Laden, a man whom a lot of Muslims see as an hero. Muslims voted Obama because they hated the republican George Bush for attacking Afghanistan and Iraq, but Obama despite promising peace continued the war legacy of Bush.

Summary:

Muslims in the west support the left and thus the liberal anarchists in order to further their selfish goals. They will vote the liberal parties even if such parties protect harams like homosexuality, transsexualism or late term abortion in exchange for tolerance and special privileges for Muslims. This is just one of the means by which Muslims help destroy the west. I will deal with other means in future.

I think there is an attempt by some political elements (the atheist left and the liberals) in the US and Europe to destroy the west. It is possible that the sins of the west has become so great that the great empire is about to be overthrown. What seems as evil (like homosexuality, lesbianism, transgender, bestiality, murder, etc) are normalized now and even well protected. The west is currently facing a serious social engineering process whereby Christianity is seen as abnormal while atheist and LGBT group are now normalized, and Islam is highly promoted (in the west) to counter and destroy christian values, upon which the west was built.

The cosmic forces that controls the universe, to me, will destroy the west because of their evils, wars, exploitation of the poor, slavery and Neo-colonization of in/of the so-called third world countries. Just as all great powers (the old Babylon, the old Egypt, the old assyrians, the roman empire, etc) had fallen, the west is also in decline morally hence, as part of God's punishment, Islam might take over the west in the future. The recent LGBT-CNN Democrat National Convention presidential debate will give one an insight into what the future holds for the US and the west in general.

There is no stopping of Muslim migration into the west; it is part of the grand plan for the future destruction of the west. The west created a humanitarian disaster in the Muslim world in order to fill Europe with Arab/Persian population. It a a sort of population replacement strategy being employed by the 'Soros' and the Rothschild-controlled western 'democracy'.

true2god:
I think there is an attempt by some political elements (the atheist left and the liberals) in the US and Europe to destroy the west.

You didn't mention the Zionists or Jewish supremacists. The primary enemies of Christians are not liberal atheists. They are Jewish, of course not all Jews, but Talmudic Jews, Jewish supremacists. It is time for Christians to stop speaking of Judea-Christian values and supporting Israel.

usermane:


You didn't mention the Zionists or Jewish supremacists. The primary enemies of Christians are not liberal atheists. They are Jewish, of course not all Jews, but Talmudic Jews, Jewish supremacists. It is time for Christians to stop speaking of Judea-Christian values and supporting Israel.

I think you are right, the reason I mentioned the Rothschild (Jewish) role in the destruction of the west. They control CNN and other major media network who are aggressively promoting the moral, economic and the political destruction of the west.

true2god:
I think there is an attempt by some political elements (the atheist left and the liberals) in the US and Europe to destroy the west. It is possible that the sins of the west has become so great that the great empire is about to be overthrown. What seems as evil (like homosexuality, lesbianism, transgender, bestiality, murder, etc) are normalized now and even well protected. The west is currently facing a serious social engineering process whereby Christianity is seen as abnormal while atheist and LGBT group are now normalized, and Islam is highly promoted (in the west) to counter and destroy christian values, upon which the west was built.

The cosmic forces that controls the universe, to me, will destroy the west because of their evils, wars, exploitation of the poor, slavery and Neo-colonization of in/of the so-called third world countries. Just as all great powers (the old Babylon, the old Egypt, the old assyrians, the roman empire, etc) had fallen, the west is also in decline morally hence, as part of God's punishment, Islam might take over the west in the future. The recent LGBT-CNN Democrat National Convention presidential debate will give one an insight into what the future holds for the US and the west in general.

There is no stopping of Muslim migration into the west; it is part of the grand plan for the future destruction of the west. The west created a humanitarian disaster in the Muslim world in order to fill Europe with Arab/Persian population. It a a sort of population replacement strategy being employed by the 'Soros' and the Rothschild-controlled western 'democracy'.

What a beautiful delusion.

usermane:
How the American Muslims serve the Liberal anarchists

Liberalism is a good thing, but like every good thing, too much of it is bad. For instance, liberals pushed for minority rights, freedom of belief and expression, secularism and other human rights values. But it is liberal that also pushed for decriminalizing adultery, alcohol consumption, pornography, promotion of all kinds of materialism and hedonism that eventually bring moral decay to society.

I disagree.

You need to define what morality is and what standard of morality do you propose and why that morality?

Adultery, pornography, alcohol consumption etc why do you think it should be criminalized and immoral?

Mention a perfect moral society, past and present?

tintingz:


What a beautiful delusion.

You usually lack a critical thought without following the 'atheistic' scripts that you have subconsciously rehearsed in all your argument. If you can't see the social engineering and the population replacement, and the powers orchestrating this changes, going on in the west, then you are not as smart as I used to think.

true2god:
You usually lack a critical thought without following the 'atheistic' scripts that you have subconsciously rehearsed in all your argument. If you can't see the social engineering and the population replacement, and the powers orchestrating this changes, going on in the west, then you are not as smart as I used to think.

You're the one creating this conspiracies to suit your fantasy, that's why it's a delusion.

Where did Christianity become abnormal in the west or murder become normal in the west? How's is LGBT affecting the west?

The last time I checked, Christianity is still the majority in the west, so where is your claim coming from? The Christianity morality is not an healthy morality just like Islamic morality, they have caused damages in history.

Kindly stop this conspiracies, it's delusional.

tintingz:


I disagree.

You need to define what morality is and what standard of morality do you propose and why that morality?

Adultery, pornography, alcohol consumption etc why do you think it should be criminalized and immoral?

Mention a perfect moral society, past and present?

Excuse my lack of better term, I don't necessarily mean 'decriminalize', I mean 'condone' or 'excuse'. And I mean it in reference to only adultery.

tintingz:


You're the one creating this conspiracies to suit your fantasy, that's why it's a delusion.

Where did Christianity become abnormal in the west or murder become normal in the west? How's is LGBT affecting the west?

The last time I checked, Christianity is still the majority in the west, so where is your claim coming from? The Christianity morality is not an healthy morality just like Islamic morality, they have caused damages in history.

Kindly stop this conspiracies, it's delusional.

It is not conspiracy theory at this point. Mass immigration is a form of warfare. This is fact. All through human history migration has been used to ethnically cleanse/displace populations.

usermane:


Excuse my lack of better term, I don't necessarily mean 'decriminalize', I mean 'condone' or 'excuse'. And I mean it in reference to only adultery.

So why do you think the rest should be criminalized?

And also give the morality you propose?

usermane:


It is not conspiracy theory at this point. Mass immigration is a form of warfare. This is fact. All through human history migration has been used to ethnically cleanse/displace populations.

In human history, conquest are used.

There are positive impact of migration in the society.

This is not even the reasons of my response to that comment.

tintingz:


So why do you think the rest should be criminalized?

I don't. Here is what I mean; Liberalism has excused adultery, alcohol, pornography and all kinds of vices. And this is not good. Should people be punished for adultery or drinking, perhaps not. But when the society begin to turn a blind eye and pretend that drinking can be cool and adultery is not the business of the society, then there is a problem.

tintingz:
In human history, conquest are used.

Yeah, but I thought we've moved beyond that. It is a bad side of human history that we refused to continue. Else what stops powerful nations like the US from invading Nigeria?

There are positive impact of migration in the society.

What is the positive impact of mass immigration of Muslims to the west? Ask the average westerner or Europeans what positive impact Muslim immigrants have created that Europeans themselves cannot.

tintingz:
You're the one creating this conspiracies to suit your fantasy, that's why it's a delusion.

I always try as much as I can to avoid any sort of logical argument with any self-professed atheist because of their occasional inverse logic and moral relativism. I am however tempted a respond to this. I however find it tough to determine whether you are here to learn, argue or boost a personal ego.

tintingz:
Where did Christianity become abnormal in the west or murder become normal in the west? How's is LGBT affecting the west?

See the links below on how the liberal and atheist-controlled polity and the western media portray Christianity as abnormal and dangerous for having a divergent view against the liberals and the atheist view in the west (especially against mass immigration and the LGBT nonsense)

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42158770
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/21/church-attacks-home-office-saying-christianity-not-peaceful/
https://religionunplugged.com/news/2019/1/29/uk-christians-dangerous-anti-extremism-measures-threaten-christian-freedom

LGBT is not only affecting the west, it is created to destroy the fabric of the society built on/from a normal nuclear unit. Normalizing and promoting an abnormal lifestyle is designed to destroy any society from its root, which is the family. Have you read where gay couples sued a christian woman because she refused to bake 'wedding' cake for the gay couple? Didn't you hear one of the Democrats presidential aspirants, Beto O'Rouke, threaten christians and churches in the US, if elected, for refusing to accept the LGBT movement? Can you ask you question again: How's is LGBT affecting the west?

tintingz:
The last time I checked, Christianity is still the majority in the west, so where is your claim coming from? The Christianity morality is not an healthy morality just like Islamic morality, they have caused damages in history.

You are gradually removing your mask and I can noW see your face clearly. So the atheist morally is now the healthy morality; what is the world turning into? What is atheist morality? Can you please list them with pride? You mean the morality that promotes and encourages abortion, homosexuality, lesbianism, socially re-engineering the society to accommodate all manners of bestial behaviors. The 'morality' that attacks others (like the ANTIFAs) who refused to bow to their utopian and misguided worldviews?

tintingz:
Kindly stop this conspiracies, it's delusional.

You are either a student who doesn't understand how a society can be internally destroyed, without bombs and guns, or just ignorant of current socio-cultural realities.

true2god:
I always try as much as I can to avoid any sort of logical argument with any self-professed atheist because of their occasional inverse logic and moral relativism. I am however tempted a respond to this. I however find it tough to determine whether you are here to learn, argue or boost a personal ego.

Ofcos you can't deal with logic, you have said it in a thread before.

I'm here to criticize your claims and make you use your reasoning.

See the links below on how the liberal and atheist-controlled polity and the western media portray Christianity as abnormal and dangerous for having a divergent view against the liberals and the atheist view in the west (especially against mass immigration and the LGBT nonsense)

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42158770
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/21/church-attacks-home-office-saying-christianity-not-peaceful/
https://religionunplugged.com/news/2019/1/29/uk-christians-dangerous-anti-extremism-measures-threaten-christian-freedom

No where the link said Christianity is seen as abnormal but Ofcos the dogmatism of Christianity is dangerous(some are good but humans can be good without them), I said it in my previous post.

Witch killing, gay execution, killing apostates, slavery, no freedom of speech, women degrading, conquest etc are dogmas that are dangerous in the society, these are dogmas practiced by Christians in the past.

LGBT is not only affecting the west, it is created to destroy the fabric of the society built on/from a normal nuclear unit. Normalizing and promoting an abnormal lifestyle is designed to destroy any society from its root, which is the family. Have you read where gay couples sued a christian woman because she refused to bake 'wedding' cake for the gay couple? Didn't you hear one of the Democrats presidential aspirants, Beto O'Rouke, threaten christians and churches in the US, if elected, for refusing to accept the LGBT movement? Can you ask you question again: How's is LGBT affecting the west?

You haven't given any logical reason how it's affecting the west.

Your Bible promote hatred for gays and even ordered them to be killed, is that the ideology the west should keep holding to?

You are gradually removing your mask and I can noW see your face clearly. So the atheist morally is now the healthy morality; what is the world turning into? What is atheist morality? Can you please list them with pride? You mean the morality that promotes and encourages abortion, homosexuality, lesbianism, socially re-engineering the society to accommodate all manners of bestial behaviors. The 'morality' that attacks others (like the ANTIFAs) who refused to bow to their utopian and misguided worldviews?

What's so wrong with homosexuality, abortion etc?

What solution do you have for homosexuals, any solution?

I've morality and it's "well being, compassion and empathy", this is what a society needs not some archaic barbaric practices.

You are either a student who doesn't understand how a society can be internally destroyed, without bombs and guns, or just ignorant of current socio-cultural realities.

You're the one making up conspiracies in your head, please stop this your delusion.

The west have well developed, Africa that frown at most western practices are we developed or going backwards?

usermane:


Yeah, but I thought we've moved beyond that. It is a bad side of human history that we refused to continue. Else what stops powerful nations like the US from invading Nigeria?

Invading another nation is under criminal act signed by all nations in the UN.

What is the positive impact of mass immigration of Muslims to the west? Ask the average westerner or Europeans what positive impact Muslim immigrants have created that Europeans themselves cannot.

Immigration has it positive and negativity, mass immigration can crumble an economy if the immigrants have nothing positive to offer to the society.

You have some valid points in your article while some points are conspiracies, you believe immigrants agenda is to take over a nation these same ideology is what causes xenophobia in South Africa.

The government of a nation have the power to send immigrants back to their countries, stop immigrants from entering their country, so why do you think immigrants can just take over a country?

usermane:


I don't. Here is what I mean; Liberalism has excused adultery, alcohol, pornography and all kinds of vices. And this is not good. Should people be punished for adultery or drinking, perhaps not. But when the society begin to turn a blind eye and pretend that drinking can be cool and adultery is not the business of the society, then there is a problem.

Give me reasons why two adults having consensual relationship is a problem in the society?

tintingz:


Give me reasons why two adults having consensual relationship is a problem in the society?

And while he's at it, he should also state if it is a greater problem than ignorance caused by religious dogmatism.

tintingz:
Of cos you can't deal with logic, you have said it in a thread before. I'm here to criticize your claims and make you use your reasoning.

Don't be intellectually dishonest bro. There is no time in any of my engagement that I tell you I can't deal with logic. I gave you a scenario which involves pythons in a village in Anambra state which are considered part and parcel of the community and are regarded as sacred beings and harmless to man while Pythons elsewhere, like the Burmese pythons, are dangerous and will kill a man if any opportunity arises for that. And I remembered I asked you to logically and scientifically explain, with evidence, what brought about the positive social relationship between the pythons in Anambra state (Nigeria) and what causes the hostility between human and the Burmese python. I can still remember telling you that there are cultural phenomenal that cannot be explained with physical evidence such as the scenario I presented. I can also remember you saying that snakes might be trained and I asked you to provide a community where all snakes are trained to be harmless to human. I can also remember you wrongfully claiming, to nullify my argument that Indians always play with elephants before you were corrected for lying. I never tell you I never used logic bro and, respectfully, I don't think your self-professed atheism make you more logical than an average person on Nairaland.

tintingz:
No where the link said Christianity is seen as abnormal but Of cos the dogmatism of Christianity is dangerous(some are good but humans can be good without them), I said it in my previous post.

You are contradicting yourself. Look at your statements, as someone that has logic:

----No where the link said Christianity is seen as abnormal

----Of cos the dogmatism of Christianity is dangerous

Your first statement already contradicts second statement, if truly you are a student of logic and I don't think you go through the link I gave you.

tintingz:
[b]Witch killing, gay execution, killing apostates, slavery, no freedom of speech, women degrading, conquest [/b]etc are dogmas that are dangerous in the society, these are dogmas practiced by Christians in the past.

True, the medieval church committed most of what you accused them of and it is highly regrettable, all of which are against the teaching of Christ. Remember, the regime that commit the highest genocide against people (in this modern era) are Joseph Stalin, 'Bolshevik' Lenin and the Chinese Mao. These people shaped their society with atheistic thoughts and values and any citizen that stood against atheism is regarded as 'enemy of the state' and marked for execution; sent to the gulag. If you judge other by their past, remember that the most ruthless and genocidal dictators the world had offered are all atheist.

tintingz:
You haven't given any logical reason how it's affecting the west.

I have given you reasons why it is affecting the west but you failed to understand. Mass immigration changes the culture of the host country and the possibility of future social unrest is high because of conflicting culture and values existing side by side. And on homosexuality, it an an abnormal sexual orientation that is against reproductive order. There is no any scientific finding/paper that validated it as normal in human. It is rather a lifestyle which is promoted, by the liberals and the atheist, to destroy the moral values of the society. Some primary school curriculum are being designed to teach young mind to be gays, lesbians and chose their sex. If these social engineering is not affecting the social fabrics of the society you need to get education. Do you know how much tax money is being spent on trangerred people, the money that could have been used to take care of the poor in the society? Is it logical for the government to spend public fund on a lifestyle people willingly chose?

tintingz:
Your Bible promote hatred for gays and even ordered them to be killed, is that the ideology the west should keep holding to?

Africans and the Arabs world also promoted the hatred for gays. And to be truthful to you, I hate gays and lesbians and I support any law that will stamp out this evil in the society.

tintingz:
What's so wrong with homosexuality, abortion etc?

Check my post above. On abortion, are you seeking for an answer or a loophole for a future argument?

tintingz:
What solution do you have for homosexuals, any solution?

Are you seeking for an answer or a loophole for a future argument?

tintingz:
I've morality and it's "well being, compassion and empathy", this is what a society needs not some archaic barbaric practices.

If your gay partners are looking for empathy why are they suing because I refused to bake their 'gay' cake? Why are they forcing parents to take their wards away from school because they (the parents) don't want their children to be exposed, at early age, their gay lifestyle? Why the gay people forcing a law to make it a criminal offense for the church to tell their members that homosexual act is evil and against natural laws? You are not seeking empathy but the destruction of family values which makes marriage only between a man and a woman.

tintingz:
You're the one making up conspiracies in your head, please stop this your delusion.

Commonsense are conspiracies to any reprobate mind.

tintingz:
The west have well developed, Africa that frown at most western practices are we developed or going backwards?

The west did not develop because they promoted gays, lesbians, transgender people etc. Russia, China, Japan are well developed without promoting these vices in their society. And FYI, the LGBT movement is less than 20 years and the west had already being fully developed before this current madness. About 25-30 years ago, gays and lesbian are also hunted in the west, whats your point exactly?

true2god:
Don't be intellectually dishonest bro. There is no time in any of my engagement that I tell you I can't deal with logic. I gave you a scenario which involves pythons in a village in Anambra state which are considered part and parcel of the community and are regarded as sacred beings and harmless to man while Pythons elsewhere, like the Burmese pythons, are dangerous and will kill a man if any opportunity arises for that. And I remembered I asked you to logically and scientifically explain, with evidence, what brought about the positive social relationship between the pythons in Anambra state (Nigeria) and what causes the hostility between human and the Burmese python. I can still remember telling you that there are cultural phenomenal that cannot be explained with physical evidence such as the scenario I presented. I can also remember you saying that snakes might be trained and I asked you to provide a community where all snakes are trained to be harmless to human. I can also remember you wrongfully claiming, to nullify my argument that Indians always play with elephants before you were corrected for lying. I never tell you I never used logic bro and, respectfully, I don't think your self-professed atheism make you more logical than an average person on Nairaland.

Lol, I've told you snakes don't hunt for humans.

The Elephants and India part was a sarcasm to your claim, snakes are sacred to anambra people, Elephants are sacred to Hindus, you claim snakes don't hurt anambra people(funny) and I said elephants are friends of Hindus. I don't know how many times I will tell you this, do you have problem understanding a sarcasm or reductio ad absurdum?

You are contradicting yourself. Look at your statements, as someone that has logic:

----No where the link said Christianity is seen as abnormal

----Of cos the dogmatism of Christianity is dangerous

Your first statement already contradicts second statement, if truly you are a student of logic and I don't think you go through the link I gave you.

Something normal can be dangerous, Christianity dogma is a norm In a society and it is dangerous.

True, the medieval church committed most of what you accused them of and it is highly regrettable, all of which are against the teaching of Christ. Remember, the regime that commit the highest genocide against people (in this modern era) are Joseph Stalin, 'Bolshevik' Lenin and the Chinese Mao. These people shaped their society with atheistic thoughts and values and any citizen that stood against atheism is regarded as 'enemy of the state' and marked for execution; sent to the gulag. If you judge other by their past, remember that the most ruthless and genocidal dictators the world had offered are all atheist.

The early crusaders that invades can back up their atrocities from the Bible, please where is the Atheists holy book these people used for their atrocities? Where is the Atheists book that said they should be killing people?

I have given you reasons why it is affecting the west but you failed to understand. Mass immigration changes the culture of the host country and the possibility of future social unrest is high because of conflicting culture and values existing side by side.

Who created cultures?

And on homosexuality, it an an abnormal sexual orientation that is against reproductive order. There is no any scientific finding/paper that validated it as normal in human. It is rather a lifestyle which is promoted, by the liberals and the atheist, to destroy the moral values of the society.

How is homosexuality abnormal when it's part of sexual orientation, so animals that do it are also abnormal?

What do you say about natural disasters, is it abnormal? What about my nipples, is it abnormal for me since It is there for nothing? What about yawning, what is it for?

There are gays that are moral and good than heterosexual people, so I don't understand what moral values they will destroy?

Some primary school curriculum are being designed to teach young mind to be gays, lesbians and chose their sex. If these social engineering is not affecting the social fabrics of the society you need to get education.

They are not teaching them to be gays but informing them not to be homophobic and not to be depressed when you feel you're gay.

Homosexuality is not taught or is heterosexual taught?

Do you know how much tax money is being spent on trangerred people, the money that could have been used to take care of the poor in the society? Is it logical for the government to spend public fund on a lifestyle people willingly chose?

They need support, the government is doing it responsibility.

Africans and the Arabs world also promoted the hatred for gays. And to be truthful to you, I hate gays and lesbians and I support any law that will stamp out this evil in the society.

So?

Check my post above. On abortion, are you seeking for an answer or a loophole for a future argument?

What's wrong with abortion?

Are you seeking for an answer or a loophole for a future argument?

What's the solution to homosexuality?

If your gay partners are looking for empathy why are they suing because I refused to bake their 'gay' cake?

Any source?

Why are they forcing parents to take their wards away from school because they (the parents) don't want their children to be exposed, at early age, their gay lifestyle?

I don't get.

Why the gay people forcing a law to make it a criminal offense for the church to tell their members that homosexual act is evil and against natural laws? You are not seeking empathy but the destruction of family values which makes marriage only between a man and a woman.

I'm pro free speech, people should have rights to criticize any practice but there are some speech that are illegal in some countries like anti-racial speech, homophobic speech, even anti-religious speech, speech that can cause breach of peace in the society are illegal.

I can remember the issue of a woman being sued for speaking against Muhammad.

You are just grasping at straws, who is destroying family values, so gays don't have family? Who construct marriage?

So what morality do you have for gays?

Commonsense are conspiracies to any reprobate mind.

The west did not develop because they promoted gays, lesbians, transgender people etc. Russia, China, Japan are well developed without promoting these vices in their society. And FYI, the LGBT movement is less than 20 years and the west had already being fully developed before this current madness. About 25-30 years ago, gays and lesbian are also hunted in the west, whats your point exactly?

The point is whether there are gays or not it doesn't affect the development of a society, that's the point.

tintingz:


Give me reasons why two adults having consensual relationship is a problem in the society?

You're asking me why adultery is problem to society?

Divorce, broken homes, single mothers. Shall I go on?

budaatum:

And while he's at it, he should also state if it is a greater problem than ignorance caused by religious dogmatism.

Well, I don't think we should look at adultery and ignorance separately. Ignorance beget adultery and promiscuity.

tintingz:
Invading another nation is under criminal act signed by all nations in the UN.

Oh, and you think UN criminal acts are perfect? Why then did US invade Iraq in 2003?

Immigration has it positive and negativity, mass immigration can crumble an economy if the immigrants have nothing positive to offer to the society.

You still didn't answer the question. How have mass immigration of Muslims helped UK or France?

You have some valid points in your article while some points are conspiracies, you believe immigrants agenda is to take over a nation these same ideology is what causes xenophobia in South Africa.

I don't believe the average Muslim immigrant in the west want Muslims to overthrow native westerners. Regardless of what the Muslim immigrants intend, they are occupying European territories, no different from the Jews occupying Arab territories till 1948.

The government of a nation have the power to send immigrants back to their countries, stop immigrants from entering their country, so why do you think immigrants can just take over a country?

Because the governments stopped putting their nation first. Do you think the common Europeans agreed to let in influx of Muslims that could potentially out number them and alter their culture in a few decades?

usermane:


Oh, and you think UN criminal acts are perfect? Why then did US invade Iraq in 2003?

Was that really the reason U.S sent troops to Iraq?

You still didn't answer the question. How have mass immigration of Muslims helped UK or France?

I don't know, maybe helped them with their economy growth.

If the immigrants are not offering anything positive to the society, UK or France would have stop them from entering their country.

I don't believe the average Muslim immigrant in the west want Muslims to overthrow native westerners. Regardless of what the Muslim immigrants intend, they are occupying European territories, no different from the Jews occupying Arab territories till 1948.

So?

Because the governments stopped putting their nation first. Do you think the common Europeans agreed to let in influx of Muslims that could potentially out number them and alter their culture in a few decades?

How will they alter their culture? Most cultures were altered in history through conquest/invasion. Has the French culture altered, has the English culture altered? Each country protect their culture, they are not dummies.

In as much as I don't like the Islamic culture, everyone have the rights to adopt any culture as long as it's a positive one. Cultures are man-made.

usermane:


You're asking me why adultery is problem to society?

Divorce, broken homes, single mothers. Shall I go on?

How is this a societal problem?

And you think adultery always cause these things?

Well, I don't think we should look at adultery and ignorance separately. Ignorance beget adultery and promiscuity.

How?

budaatum:

And while he's at it, he should also state if it is a greater problem than ignorance caused by religious dogmatism.

Adultery can be morally wrong but I still haven't get how it affects the society.

I mean there are greater problems that affects the society.