Question

A friend of mine was offering 2 rakahs sunnah after Maghrib in the Mosque, when a new comer joined him for Jamaah. My friend didn't know what to do as he was offering the Sunnah and he knew that the new comer was under the impression that he was offering fard. After the prayer my friend was still in the Mosque when the new comer finished his prayer and asked my friend why he had not been reading out loud as it was Maghrib. My friend informed him that he had been reading the Sunnah and therefore could not have read out loud. Could you please clarify with daleel [proof from Hadith/Sunnah] as to what should be done in such a situation where you are offering a Sunnah prayer and someone joins you thinking its Fard?

Answer

Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:

There is nothing wrong with one who is offering an obligatory prayer praying behind one who is offering a naafil prayer. It is proven that Mu‘aadh ibn Jabal (may Allah be pleased with him) used to pray ‘Isha’ with the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), then he would go back to his people and lead them in praying ‘Isha’, and the prayer was naafil for him and obligatory for them.

It was narrated that Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: Mu‘aadh ibn Jabal (may Allah be pleased with him) used to pray with the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), then he would go to his people and lead them in prayer. And he would recite al-Baqarah. … The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Recite ‘By the sun and its brightness’ [al-Shams 91:1], and ‘Glorify the Name of your Lord, the Most High’ [al-A’la 87:1] and the like.”
Narrated by al-Bukhaari (5755) and Muslim (465).

Al-Nawawi said:
In this hadeeth we see that it is permissible for one who is offering an obligatory prayer to pray behind one who is offering a naafil prayer, because Mu‘aadh used to offer the obligatory prayer with the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), so he discharged his duty, then he would pray the second time with his people, so it was voluntary for him and obligatory for them. This is stated clearly elsewhere than in Muslim, and this is permissible according to al-Shaafa‘i (may Allah have mercy on him) and others. End quote.
Sharh Muslim, 4/181

Secondly:

There is nothing wrong with a person starting his prayer alone and then becoming an imam when someone else joins him.

It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allah be pleased with him) said: I stayed overnight with my maternal aunt. The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) got up to pray at night and I got up to pray with him. I stood on his left and he took hold of my head and made me stand on his right.
Narrated by al-Bukhaari (667) and Muslim (763).

Imam al-Bukhaari included this report in a chapter entitled: If the imam did not intend to lead others in prayer, then people join him so he leads them in prayer.

And it was narrated that Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) was praying in Ramadaan, and I came and stood beside him, and another man came and stood too, until there was a group of us. When the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) realized that I was behind him, he made his prayer brief.
Narrated by Muslim (1104).

Some of the scholars said that it is permissible to do this in naafil prayers, but not in obligatory prayers. But the correct view is that it is valid in both cases.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

The correct view is that that is permissible in both obligatory and naafil prayers. End quote.
Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa, 22/258

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

But the correct view is that it is valid in both obligatory and naafil prayers. With regard to naafil prayers, it is mentioned in the text; with regard to obligatory prayers, what is proven in the case of naafil prayers is also proven with regard to obligatory prayers, unless there is evidence to the contrary.
Al-Sharh al-Mumti‘, 2/304

Thirdly:

If a person starts to pray behind a man who has started to offer a naafil prayer, as in the case asked about here, then the imam has the choice as to whether he recites out loud or quietly. But if he intended to lead the prayer from the outset, then he should recite out loud, because of the hadeeth of Mu‘aadh (may Allah be pleased with him) quoted above.

And Allah knows best.

Source IslamQA

Jazakumllahu khayran.... May Allah be pleased with us....�

But it was frowned upon by people of Madhaheeb.

Allah is great

Jazakumullah kaeran

This is fantastic. May Allah keep us firm on His path and increase our knowledge

Educative!

DikSin:
Rubbish as usual.

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This guy with SIN attach to your name after a DIK you are more unaware than a pig. You see Islam predates your entire generation and will outlive even you. Insulting it will only make it strong, but your silence would have made more sense if you had brains to exercise such.

Jazakum lahu khair

Jazakumullahira jaza

Yah Salam Yah Salam.

Mutuwa:


This guy with SIN attach to your name after a DIK you are more unaware than a pig. You see Islam predates your entire generation and will outlive even you. Insulting it will only make it strong, but your silence would have made more sense if you had brains to exercise such.

His post has been taken down, unquote him.

Firstly there is no obligatory prayer without an iqkama so now in reference to your quoted hadith: he observed the obligatory prayer with the Prophet & decide to lead them in his local masjid with the intention of nawafil & they with the intent of obligatory prayer, this was agreed so he led the prayer to the best of an obligatory prayer & not as a nawafil. Note: iqkama was present

But if you decide to follow someone praying nawafil without considering your intention will certainly not work. So with this you can seek for more knowledge & understanding. Allahu-ahlamu.

bashir1451:
But it was frowned upon by people of Madhaheeb.

But it is permitted.

Alirauf:
Firstly there is no obligatory prayer without an iqkama so now in reference to your quoted hadith: he observed the obligatory prayer with the Prophet & decide to lead them in his local masjid with the intention of nawafil & they with the intent of obligatory prayer, this was agreed so he led the prayer to the best of an obligatory prayer & not as a nawafil. Note: iqkama was present

But if you decide to follow someone praying nawafil without considering your intention will certainly not work. So with this you can seek for more knowledge & understanding. Allahu-ahlamu.

Are you using your reasoning or you have a dhaleel for your opinion?

IamBlanco:
If you are a Muslim and you genuinely open to debates and free thinking. please search for "The Arabian Prophet" on YouTube. watch his videos, feel free to call in and ask deep questions about Islam and what you've been told to believe in all your life.

Watch how your fellow imams, sheikhs and Muslims throw common sense and logic to the garbage all in a bid to struggle and prove that Quran, tasfir and hadith despite its inconsistences are from Allah.

even Zakir Naik is scared to debate.

please watch...

Or Christian Prince on YouTube ( same person as the Arabian prophet)

IamBlanco:
If you are a Muslim and you genuinely open to debates and free thinking. please search for "The Arabian Prophet" on YouTube. watch his videos, feel free to call in and ask deep questions about Islam and what you've been told to believe in all your life.

Watch how your fellow imams, sheikhs and Muslims throw common sense and logic to the garbage all in a bid to struggle and prove that Quran, tasfir and hadith despite its inconsistences are from Allah.

even Zakir Naik is scared to debate.

please watch...

Debate is only for doubtful people!

GeoAfrikana:


Debate is only for doubtful people!

visit first now. and watch how your fellow Muslims throw away common sense just to prove islam is the truth.

Mutuwa:


This guy with SIN attach to your name after a DIK you are more unaware than a pig. You see Islam predates your entire generation and will outlive even you. Insulting it will only make it strong, but your silence would have made more sense if you had brains to exercise such.

Just like your ignorance of "warship"... It will predate you too and your entire coonary

Mutuwa:


This guy with SIN attach to your name after a DIK you are more unaware than a pig. You see Islam predates your entire generation and will outlive even you. Insulting it will only make it strong, but your silence would have made more sense if you had brains to exercise such.

Please unquote him so that no one else will see his post.
Goto modify under your post and delete all the content and write something new.

DikSin:


Just like your ignorance of "warship"... It will predate you too and your entire coonary

Go tell that to Pastor Wilson, Fatoyinbo, Oyakhilome(who was left because of adultery) and many more..
Swindlers and gullible followers.

May we be truly guided Aameen.

Jazakummllah khayr.....also please do not answer this jaheel

Jazzakum'llahu khairan!!!
May Allah(SWT) increase our knowledge! !! N

DikSin:


Just like your ignorance of "warship"... It will predate you too and your entire coonary

But we like our worship love child, we are not complaining, so why take panadol for our own headache? See why I said you are more unaware than a pig?

Mutuwa:


But we like our worship love child, we are not complaining, so why take panadol for our own headache? See why I said you are more unaware than a pig?

Your *love* for the Arab Ninja messenger is Killin my African folks.

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