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You seems to have a shallow understanding of the game of Power and Politics, particularly Nigerian politics especially as it relate to the presidential election.

Bros, nobody owes you the presidency. The Igbos worked for the PDP in 1999,2003,2007,2011,2015 and 2019.(During all this period, the Igbo didn't have anything to do with OTHER political parties)

They justly deserve to ask for PDP presidential ticket but whether they will win is another matter entirely and to insist other political parties must field Igbo candidates will be unrealistic.

LabDNA:
Yes they should, just like the 'stubborn 419' 'landlocked Igbo' as you love to insult worked for OBJ the yoruba and Yar adua' the fulani victories.
We arw all in Nigeria and everybody insults everybody. Stop pretending you are clean.

Every Easterner should ask and contest the presidential ticket in their parties. No party has any excuse to deny the East the ticket as long as it has Easterners as members. Zoning must be respected to the fullest, it is part of federal character that everyone respects.

LabDNA:
I don't have to. Every well-meaning Nigerian (except the dunderheaded) knows that zoning is crucial to create a sense of belonging to all groups. PDP started it, APC followed suit.

We cannot start shifting goal post in the middle of the game. Zoning is sacrosanct.

Ignorance is your problem. I didn't ask u whether zoning is good or not. What I am saying is that it's not backed by any law. Nigerians can decide to vote only one tribe till eternity. Its democracy. Zoning depends on how each tribe can negotiate. So grow up and quit the tantrums.

allthingsgood:
Ignorance is your problem. I didn't ask u whether zoning is good or not. What I am saying is that it's not backed by any law. Nigerians can decide to vote only one tribe till eternity. Its democracy. Zoning depends on how each tribe can negotiate. So grow up and quit the tantrums.

Check your dictionary for the meaning of 'tantrum'. Talking about ignorance, I'll humbly say that you can not be more lettered than someone with an M.Sc and a Ph.D in view. So reconstitute your use of words in their proper context.

The survival of a multi-ethnic country like Nigeria depends on zoning that's why all major parties adopt it. You should be arguing with APC, PDP, ApGa etc not me. Being part of a country like Nigeria with numerous seemingly intractable challenges is enough negotiation.

The country belongs to everyone. That's all.

LabDNA:
Check your dictionary for the meaning of 'tantrum'. Talking about ignorance, I'll humbly say that you can not be more lettered than someone with an M.Sc and a Ph.D in view. So reconstitute your use of words in their proper context.

The survival of a multi-ethnic country like Nigeria depends on zoning that's why all major parties adopt it. You should be arguing with APC, PDP, ApGa etc not me. Being part of a country like Nigeria with numerous seemingly intractable challenges is enough negotiation.

The country belongs to everyone. That's all.

You have said nothing.

alhassanyusuf29:
My SE brethens, let's be objective and realistic for once.. remove emotions! Let's be logical and rational with this debate

Some Igbo elites are suggesting for both parties(APC and PDP) to zone the presidential ticket to their zone

If that happens, will the SE vote APC? If probably no

What's the essence and logic in APC zoning it to SE?

You see...this is where you messed up! ....asking Ibo to leave emotion aside and be logical. Mmttchheeeew....

oyatz:
You seems to have a shallow understanding of the game of Power and Politics, particularly Nigerian politics especially as it relate to the presidential election.

Bros, nobody owes you the presidency. The Igbos worked for the PDP in 1999,2003,2007,2011,2015 and 2019.(During all this period, the Igbo didn't have anything to do with OTHER political parties)

They justly deserve to ask for PDP presidential ticket but whether they will win is another matter entirely and to insist other political parties must field Igbo candidates will be unrealistic.

The Igbos are more than 60 million people and are in every political party. Just like we had few yorubas who were in the PDP compensated with 1999 and 2003 presidency. Ogbonnaya onu was the chairman of ANPP even though it was seen a majorly a northern party with buhari a keyplayer there.

Vote who you want, the East will continue to ask for what is due to them through negotiation, understanding and appeal to common sense of well-meaning Nigerians (not incurable bigots that you appear to represent if we go by your post-history)

allthingsgood:
You have said nothing.

Of course, to sick bigots who think they can fool us with their pseudo-objectivity.

Until we change our currency NAIRA

LabDNA:
The Igbos are more than 60 million people and are in every political party. Just like we had few yorubas who were in the PDP compensated with 1999 and 2003 presidency. Ogbonnaya onu was the chairman of ANPP even though it was seen a majorly a northern party with buhari a keyplayer there.

Vote who you want, the East will continue to ask for what is due to them through negotiation, understanding and appeal to common sense of well-meaning Nigerians (not incurable bigots that you appear to represent if we go by your post-history)

Negotiations and appeal to common sense of well meaning Nigerians by using IPOB as a legit tool of blackmail, calling Nigeria a zoo and a failed state while insulting Yorubas ( Yeroba Muslims, slaves and cowards) and Hausa/Fulanis ( gworo-chewing illiterates terrorists, almajiri born-trowey)

In 2023, you will understand that HATE has a PRICE

ProWalker:
Negotiations and appeal to common sense of well meaning Nigerians by using IPOB as a legit tool of blackmail, calling Nigeria a zoo and a failed state while insulting Yorubas ( Yeroba Muslims, slaves and cowards) and Hausa/Fulanis ( gworo-chewing illiterates terrorists, almajiri born-trowey)

In 2023, you will understand that HATE has a PRICE

Every bigot will always see what he wants to see. You also have your OPC, Arewa and fulani militia. Have you disbanded them? Are they registered with the corporate affairs of Nigeria?

In Nigeria everyone taunts everyone. What price have you paid for calling them 'flatheeads, drug dealers, landlocked, baby factory people' etc? You tell us

Or you think you have an express right to pick who to scapegoat, even when you are guilty of same aggresion? Who do you think you are with your singleton vote?

Politics and emotions, are two different planes. Go take a sit and stop telling your selectively bigoted stories from the middle. You have only one bigoted vote. Read your post-history and give yourself knocks before looking for who to scape-goat. You are guilty.

LabDNA:
Every bigot will always see what he wants to see. You also have your OPC, Arewa and fulani militia. Have you disbanded them? Are they registered with the corporate affairs of Nigeria?

In Nigeria everyone taunts everyone. What price have you paid for calling them 'flatheeads, drug dealers, landlocked, baby factory people' etc? You tell us

Or you think you have an express right to pick who to scapegoat, even when you are guilty of same aggresion? Who do you think you are with your singleton vote?

Politics and emotions, are two different planes. Go take a sit and stop telling your selectively bigoted stories from the middle. You have only one bigoted vote. Read your post-history and give yourself knocks before looking for who to scape-goat. You are guilty.

2023 is here, the ewedu and Islamic Hausa party will gladly hand over their ticket to you, because it’s your “turn”

ProWalker:
2023 is here, the ewedu and Islamic Hausa party will gladly hand over their ticket to you, because it’s your “turn”

Yes..just like it was given to OBJ after his people taunts with ' omo ina' 'agbari ojukwu' and Yar'adua after his people taunts with yamuri, bayerabe etc.
This is politics, you are too emotional, shape in or ship out.

was it Hausa or Yoruba that voted in okorocha under APC in 2015?

oyatz:
Soludo and Peter Obi are PDP men, how do you think they can just hijack APC presidential ticket?

Do you honestly think those who have laboured to get APC to this level will just sit back and watch while Soludo or Peter Obi are handed the presidential ticket just like that?...things like this only happens in movies.

I said "astonishing in the likes of", it may not actually be the duo... but trust me, the SE would rather not have the presidency than have a mediocre who would ruin a good chance.

LabDNA:
Yes..just like it was given to OBJ after his people taunts with ' omo ina' 'agbari ojukwu' and Yar'adua after his people taunts with yamuri, bayerabe etc.
This is politics, you are too emotional, shape in or ship out.

Lmao! You are the emotional wreck here. It’s only emotion that will make you insist political parties should have over their tickets to only igbos because it’s your “turn” when it’s guaranteed that parties will simply put themselves at great disadvantage doing so

That is the true definition of illogicality and emotionality

Well, you can enjoy your turn by turn blackmail till 2023

alhassanyusuf29:
I'm asking a simple question, is it that you can't answer?

They are confused being's.

ProWalker:
Lmao! You are the emotional wreck here. It’s only emotion that will make you insist political parties should have over their tickets to only igbos because it’s your “turn” when it’s guaranteed that parties will simply put themselves at great disadvantage doing so

That is the true definition of illogicality and emotionality

Well, you can enjoy your turn by turn blackmail till 2023

It was emotional in 1999 when it was done for yorubas, it cannot be emotional in 2023.
It is the practicably political thing to do in 2023 for the sake of equity.

Lamenting about who called who what, is what exposed you as an emotionally sissified bigot. It not practical here.

Like many illogical bigots, you are not matured for practical politics, so keep your single miserable vote. We are not banking on it. Well-meaning countrymen will decide.

LabDNA:
It was emotional in 1999 when it was done for yorubas, it cannot be emotional in 2023.
It is the practicably political thing to do in 2023 for the sake of equity.

Lamenting about who called who what, is what exposed you as an emotionally sissified bigot. It not practical here.

Like many illogical bigots, you are not matured for practical politics, so keep your single miserable vote. We are not banking on it. Well-meaning countrymen will decide.

Lmaoooo!! 2023, you will know your place in Nigeria. The same 1999 Ekueweme treatment will be given to you in another format.

There is a price to pay when you hate yoruba and Hausa/Fulani at the same time just because your preferred HERO lost an election in 2015. You want people to forget and pretend you never did what you did

Nnamdi Kanu will be on the campaign train of your igbo candidates

He will tell Nigerians why igbos were searching out for Northerners inside buses and burning Dangote trucks. HATE HAS A PRICE

ProWalker:
Lmaoooo!! 2023, you will know your place in Nigeria. The same 1999 Ekueweme treatment will be given to you in another format.

There is a price to pay when you hate yoruba and Hausa/Fulani at the same time just because your preferred HERO lost an election in 2015. You want people to forget and pretend you never did what you did

Nnamdi Kanu will be on the campaign train of your igbo candidates

He will tell Nigerians why igbos were searching out for Northerners inside buses and burning Dangote trucks. HATE HAS A PRICE

Emotional sissy, if you expect to insult anyone and expect them to keep shut, then you'll have better fortunes squeezing blood from stone. Everybody has their own mad dog. You have own opc, fulani militia. The East cannot be different, it is important for balance and respect in the polity.

The Number of Easterners killed in the North since 1945 can never be surpassed if Onitsha and Aba start retaliating from today till 2023. So shut it.

Practical politics will be played, regardless of your weak inflammed emotions.

alhassanyusuf29:
My SE brethens, let's be objective and realistic for once.. remove emotions! Let's be logical and rational with this debate

Some Igbo elites are suggesting for both parties(APC and PDP) to zone the presidential ticket to their zone

If that happens, will the SE vote APC? If probably no

What's the essence and logic in APC zoning it to SE?

must the president come from APC?? it is you that should be objective and realistic for once!!

The problem with most commentators on this Igbo presidency is that they approach purely political issues largely from emotional outbursts.

If I say something is unrealistic, it doesn't necessarily mean I am against it or that it's inherently a bad thing.

An Igboman,just like a Fulaniman, Nupeman or Igalaman should NOT be denied the chance to aspire to be president of his Country.
However, the possibility of winning the presidential election depends much more than merely giving the chance to run.

All igbomen in all parties should run for the Presidency in 2023. The more the merrier.

LabDNA:
The Igbos are more than 60 million people and are in every political party. Just like we had few yorubas who were in the PDP compensated with 1999 and 2003 presidency. Ogbonnaya onu was the chairman of ANPP even though it was seen a majorly a northern party with buhari a keyplayer there.

Vote who you want, the East will continue to ask for what is due to them through negotiation, understanding and appeal to common sense of well-meaning Nigerians (not incurable bigots that you appear to represent if we go by your post-history)

alhassanyusuf29:
My SE brethens, let's be objective and realistic for once.. remove emotions! Let's be logical and rational with this debate

Some Igbo elites are suggesting for both parties(APC and PDP) to zone the presidential ticket to their zone

If that happens, will the SE vote APC? If probably no

What's the essence and logic in APC zoning it to SE?

No elite in Nigeria are as far from reality as those faeces eating Igbo elite. One Nigeria is the only reason why the so called elite have not been banished from the SE. Igbo land cleanses itself (bakassi boys, boys oye riots etc) periodically of the evil elite every couple of years but the Nigerian state always saves them.

Now to your question. The Igbo masses WILL NEVER VOTE APC. All Igbos really desire is control of their enclave through restructuring. The people talking about Igbo presidency are very few and are either political jobbers or largely ignorant

How old were you in 1999 sir?

At the 1999 Jos convention of the PDP the following campaigned vigorously and contested;

Chief Olusegun Obasanjo
Dr Alex Ekwueme
Chief Jim Nwobodo
Don Etiebet
Chief Philip Asiodu
Alabo-Graham Douglas

How,Chief Olusegun Obasanjo defeated them all.

In the APP, the leading candidates at the 1999 Kaduna Convention were

Dr Olusola Saraki
Deacon Gabriel Onosode
Odumegwu-Ojukwu.

However, actual voting didn't take place but the chairman of the party from nowhere announced Dr Ogbonaya Onu as a 'Consesus candidate's to go into alliance with the defunct AD which after weeks of negotiations produced Falae-Shinkafi alliance ticket.

Numerous southerners aspired and actually contested for the Presidential tickets of their parties but only Obasanjo became the President.

LabDNA:
It was emotional in 1999 when it was done for yorubas, it cannot be emotional in 2023.
It is the practicably political thing to do in 2023 for the sake of equity.

Lamenting about who called who what, is what exposed you as an emotionally sissified bigot. It not practical here.

Like many illogical bigots, you are not matured for practical politics, so keep your single miserable vote. We are not banking on it. Well-meaning countrymen will decide.

They fail to understand that each election is different.

Between 1999-2011, the country was more or less a one party State with only the PDP winning the presidential election regardless of the quality of the candidates. There was no serious opposition and contenders.

However with the emergence of the APC in 2013, the dynamics have changed and every party will have to devise the best methods of winning.

With Igbo APC and PDP candidates, the opposition party stand a good chance to defeat the APC.

ProWalker:
Lmao! You are the emotional wreck here. It’s only emotion that will make you insist political parties should have over their tickets to only igbos because it’s your “turn” when it’s guaranteed that parties will simply put themselves at great disadvantage doing so

That is the true definition of illogicality and emotionality

Well, you can enjoy your turn by turn blackmail till 2023