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Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by fk002: 11:06pm On Oct 20, 2019
Nowenuse:
Can you please take down that Tiv name you are answering on nairaland? Or I will begin to monitor your profile and anywhere you go I will harass you on that thread! Thank God I'm more free these days.
Yourself and Omenka.

A true son of Benue can never say someone like Elrufai who has open hatred and detest for Southern Kaduna people is his person. That is a slap on the legacy of the likes of Late Gideon Orkar, Joseph Tarka and the other Tiv fathers who fought against the oppression of northern minorities.
It is a slap on the dead souls of hundreds and thousands of Tivs who were killed by the Sardauna in 1966 Tiv riots and killings by Fulani herdsmen over the decade.

I may not be from Benue but my people and Benue have a common history and struggle.
I hold great esteem on the legacy of past Benue fathers who were middlebelt agitators. Hence I will not continue to watch yourself an Omenka continue to misrepresent the views of the average Benue person on this forum.
Are we talking about good governance or tribalism? You just stated it on your earlier post that Tribalism was one of the factor that brought down Jang government.
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by fk002: 11:09pm On Oct 20, 2019
MelesZenawi:
The best northern Governor so far is Alhaji Bello Masari of katsina , Former Governor Ibrahim Idris...

Also in my good book is Gov Yahya Bello. He did well and his people are returning him for another term.

Also Ganduje is another Governor per excellence.

As for Governor Matawalle, he is never a pdp member. All his agenda bleeds APC.

With time he will decamp and join his brotherhood in APC.


Finally Governor Darius is trying.
They said Northern governors not PDP governors!!


Darius is one of the worst governor in Northern Nigeria, visit Taraba and see for your self.
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by fk002: 11:19pm On Oct 20, 2019
Nowenuse:
El rufai no doubt is a visionary leader and is hardworking. This was why many Southern Kaduna people supported him in 2015, believing he will make Kaduna more progressive for everyone.
However, after they started seeing his body language and how bigoted he was, they started withdrawing. Instead of him to appeal to them and make it up to them by showing them kindness. He openly called them an inconsequential minority and told them that they are less than 30% in Kaduna state.

El rufai signed for an emirate to be in Kachia. Is that not madness? He is very lucky he did not try that in Zangon Kataf or Jaba, or else he would have been the one begging for peace later on, just like Makarfi did after the Sharia crisis.
Many Zaria people were against the muslim-muslim ticket, cos they knew how terrible this is in a state where christians are about half of the population. All of them eventually followed up, as is usual with the herd mentality of Hausa-fulanis.

In El-rufai's mind, he must have succeeded, but he doesn't knows he has sown a seed of hatred and division which will germinate very soon.
Even a state like Gombe which the christians are like 40% will never give a muslim deputy, let alone Kaduna.

The same stupid Elrufai brought foreign investors to Kagoro to build a Potato mill, because Kagoro is a part of the Plateau and temperate climate crops grow there just like Plateau state. The indigenes rejected it and told him to take it to Zaria. He cannot because Potatos don't grow in Zaria. Is this not reaping from sowing seeds of hatred? You discriminate and insult a people and you need their lands.
The indigenes themselves know that even if they give their lands for the industry, at the end of the day, everybody working in the industry would be Hausa fulanis cos Elrufai will not disappoint in this aspect.

See, no matter the investmemts Elrufai brings to Kaduna state, it will not take more than a serious crisis to chase all the investors away and everything is back to square 1.

Elrufai's actions and that of the likes of Buhari and other northern extremists have succeded in pushing Northern/Middlebelt minorities against the core-north and keeps on pushing us farther.

My parents and grandparents grew up loving Arewa and believing it to be their identity, but today I spit at the mention of the name Arewa. Igbos are 10x better and an alliance between my people and Igbos and Niger deltans would be far better.
I didn't bother to read what you were yabbing about but your last paragraph caught my attention. How is you and your people opinion on Arewa relevant on the scheme of Nigerian politics? Arewa is naturally diverse culturally, if you are saying that you ain't Arewa how on earth will you be able to carve out your imaginary middle belt? I don't think it will ever be possible, when the likes of Nasarawa, Niger, Kwara, and kogi have something in common with North "Religion".
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by fk002: 11:32pm On Oct 20, 2019
Nowenuse:
Hahaha. When I say my people will unite with the south, do you think I am talking of a middlebelt?
I am only talking of the tribes of (Plateau Gurara Gongola) which includes the ethnic groups of Plateau, Nasarawa, FCT, Southern Kaduna, Eastern Niger and Kebbi south + Taraba, Adamawa, Southern Gombe, Southern Borno and parts of Bauchi south. We know ourselves and combined together we are 30 million people. We now have an umbrella forum which you people will be hearing of soon.

We can work with Benue people if they choose, meanwhile, Nupe (Niger), Ebira (Kogi) and Kwara people can decide to join Yoruba or Hausa if they like smiley

By the time our people and the SE/SS unite under one struggle, we will know who the majority or minority truly is.
Wait for it, it is coming soon.
Hausa fulanis don't know that when you fight everyone, you succeed in uniting your enemies.



Hitler was once cherished, praised and loved by his people. But go to Germany and mention his name today.
Wise people learn from the mistakes of others.
Okay I have seen that you pin point all the region that you want to call middle belt, how can you bring Southern Borno and Eastern kebbi together without pathing Bauchi and the rest of core north? Or would they pack themselves and settle on the red mud erosion ravaged SE that are fighting over land?
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nyamuri: 12:15am On Oct 21, 2019
Hahaha watch him claim ur a hausa/fulani/muslim bcuz you defer
BafanaBafana:
Dude, I'm from Benue, a full blooded Idoma and El Rufai is my mentor. If not for hearsay, nobody has a reason to hate Elrufai.
An on the struggle you were talking about, you guys are strictly on your own
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nyamuri: 12:18am On Oct 21, 2019
Who is your best northern governor, in general? It doesn have to be base on party line
fk002:
They said Northern governors not PDP governors!!


Darius is one of the worst governor in Northern Nigeria, visit Taraba and see for your self.
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nyamuri: 12:25am On Oct 21, 2019
Hahaha thx for amplifying it, that's what I'm trying to tell him all this while.. he thinks the middle belt is made up of benue and platue only, whenever they issue a statement, ull only see the likes of Joseph tarka, Jerry gana etc making it a Christian affair.. one wonders if there are any Muslims in middle belt grin cheesy

Or maybe kwarra, kogi, nasarawa and Niger are not in MB grin
fk002:
I didn't bother to read what you were yabbing about but your last paragraph caught my attention. How is you and your people opinion on Arewa relevant on the scheme of Nigerian politics? Arewa is naturally diverse culturally, if you are saying that you ain't Arewa how on earth will you be able to carve out your imaginary middle belt? I don't think it will ever be possible, when the likes of Nasarawa, Niger, Kwara, and kogi have something in common with North "Religion".
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nowenuse: 12:39am On Oct 21, 2019
garfield1:
You have more hate even more than el rufai and other muslims you claim are evil.
Buhari had 40% in plateau in 2015 and having same in 2019 shouldn't raise eyebrows.mind you,his campaign crowd in plateau was the largest.

I once opened a topic here showing that there more muslim in taraba than christians,nobody could refute me.there are slightly more muslim in adamawa than christians
Buhari had 40% in Plateau in 2015 cos many people were tired of GEJ and most importantly people hated Jang too and wanted to pay him and PDP back for forcing a wrong candidate on the state. Many were also swayed with the CHANGE slogan.
Now, what reason does Buhari have to get 40% in 2019?

Anybody saying Taraba is predominantly muslim is the biggest joker there ever is grin

Apart from the Fulanis in the state who dominate only Gassol & Jalingo LGA, only the Wurukuns (where the APC gov candidate came from) who are like ⅓ of the population of Karim Lamido LGA have up to 80% muslim population.
Then you have the Jukun Jibu (Jibawa) who are the majority in Bali & Gashaka LGA and Chamba of Bali, both of whom are like 65% muslim each.
Besides these ethnic groups, no other ethnic group in Taraba state has a muslim majority.
Mambillas of Sardauna are 50/50.

Among the about 60 ethnic groups that make up Taraba, only 5 are predominantly muslim and you claim the state is majority muslim?
Muslims only have up to 30% in Taraba because Fulanis & Jibawa have large populations and also, many Hausa settlers have come to Taraba.

If the Jukun clans of Taraba south are seperated, then fulanis become the largest ethnic group in the state with like 15% of the states population.

Out of the 16 LGAs that make up Taraba state, muslims are only majority in 4 (Bali, Gassol, Ibi & Jalingo) where they make about 70% of the population in each.
Sardauna, Gashaka & Ardo Kola are a 50/50 while the remaining 9 are christian majority with some like Ussa, Zing, Takum & Donga being over 90% christian.
Wukari is the largest city in the state and muslims have been chased out of the town, they only live on the outskirts.
Do you know that the APC gov candidate did not even bother to go to most LGAs in Taraba south to campaign? Cos he is not sure of his life in those areas, let alone any single votes.

Taraba South is 90% christian. Completely owned by the Jukun clans with Tiv settlers and Hausa settlers in Ibi. Most fulanis have been completely chased out from here.

Taraba north is 70% christian. The Mumuyes who are mostly christian, majority in 2 LGAs and minority in 2 LGAs are the largest tribe here.
Followed by the Konas (Jukuns), majority in 2 and minority in 1. Then Fulanis, majority in 1 and minority in 2. Then all other dozens of tribes who are mostly christian except Wurukun.

Taraba central is 65% muslim. Jibawa the largest tribe here, majority in 2 LGAs followed by Fulanis, majority in 1 and minority in 1, then Mambilla and others. Jibawas are ⅔ muslim, fulanis are muslim, Mambillas are 50/50 and the other tribes are mostly christians.

All the 3 senatorial district have about equal populations cos Wukari the largest city is in the south. Jalingo the capital is in the north (with the most LGAs), while the central has 3 of the most populated LGAs among the top 5 in the state.

This is the breakdown of Taraba state. Now, do your arithmetic and tell me how Taraba can be muslim majority.

Adamawa has more muslims than Taraba. Adamawa is like 60-65% christian. And I can give you the breakdown if you want.

Cc alhassanyusuf29
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nobody: 1:11am On Oct 21, 2019
garfield1:
[s]You have more hate even more than el rufai and other muslims you claim are evil.
Buhari had 40% in plateau in 2015 and having same in 2019 shouldn't raise eyebrows.mind you,his campaign crowd in plateau was the largest.

I once opened a topic here showing that there more muslim in taraba than christians,nobody could refute me.there are slightly more muslim in adamawa than christians[/s]
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nobody:
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nowenuse: 1:34am On Oct 21, 2019
Nyamuri:
Whatever you believe about the election, whether its rigged or not, that's subjective and your opinion doesn't matter in the court of law.. I brought you a proof and vindication that is backed up by the law and regulation of a country, your not in any position to indicate anything, that's why the court is there

Now, I have told you to bring your own proof that is backed up by the law or government, but u keep beating around the bush by throwing bogus numbers and claiming how your in a "middle belt group" , that's non of my business!! bring something tangible/article that has been publish in ur support

I have the election as my evidence accertain by the court and law, what do you have?

I don't care whatever group you belong to, it doesn't portray or validate anything.. if that's the, how could u woefully fail in predicting APC/buhari will lose middle belt? That means you don't know anything about regional politics or events

You can't tell me to go make research while ur the one making the points, you have to back your arguments with facts and evidence.. that's how debates are done, we are talking about KD not Adamawa.. You want me to go on Facebook and check names, but that's the same template you used in judging that buhari will lose the MB bcuz 80% in the group were Christians and we all know how it ended

If a foreigner is on social media and sees that 80% of the people are southerners, does that mean southerners are the majority in Nigeria? You see how ur argument is falling like pack of cards grin
In that post of mine which you are quoting, I clearled agreed that Atiku can never win Niger state, cos I knew many Niger people were not part of the forum. Of course, many Nupes and other Niger muslims do not join middlebelt groups. Likewise the Yorubas of Kwara & Kogi.
But Igalas & Ebiras were well represented in those names in the comments.
So, I want you to add the votes of Plateau, Nasarawa, FCT, Benue & Kogi in the last election and tell me who won between Buhari & Atiku.

Atiku won in all these areas combined of course, even with all the rigging. So my prediction never lied. The rigging only reduced the percentage.

2ndly, my telling you to go to facebook and check tribal groups of middlebelt tribes has nothing to do with a regional group based on an agitation.
If you go to check an Igala group on facebook for instance. You will see Igalas of all religions and hometowns there. All Igalas know that they are Igalas and cherish the identity. So, it will be a good representation. So, please you have no point here.
If I make an assertion with facts, kindly refute it with facts as well. You cannot refute a good ethno-religious breakdown based on election results. That is poor.

Your lying to say Muslims take elections more serious than Christians, maybe in the south, but definitely not in KD.. we all have seen how pastors were daily instigating their members not to vote for El-rufai on a daily basis, to the point that El-rufai even said "even if I make pope my running mate, SK won't vote"... Ashiru kudan got 816, 234, while, El-rufai got 1,045,421, that's a margin of only 229,187!! Is this ur definition of not taking an election serious! undecided.. Ashiru only got 22,022 in his LG(kudan), while he 87,542 in Zango kataf(a Christian dominated area), and you foolishly say Christians don't take election serious
Muslims bring out underaged children to vote in elections or do you also want me to prove this to you? I can show you. But can you ever show me any proof of underage christians voting? Abeg we know all these things.

I have shown you instances where muslims win elections in christian dominated areas, can you show me one place in the entire north where a christian won an election in a muslim majority area since 1999? I am talking of local politics and not presidency elections.

Muslims carry the blind, the lame, the deaf, the old and frail to go and vote, people are carried on wheelchair to vote. Should I show you the pictures? They are all over the internet. Can you show me that happening among christians?

These and more should clearly tell us the truth about who take elections more seriously.

Also, should we post the PVC collection list and Voters turn out list (against registered voters) and let us see who has the highest? Abegi. Stop deceiving yourself.

This is why I believe that other people have no business in sharing one country with Hausa fulanis. People who take elections more serious than education.

How can you say there are no kanuri in platue state and adamawa, I have a friend that is kanuri and from platue state.. it's clearly from this assertion that you don't know much about ur region. These people migrated centuries from Borno state

https://idonsabi.com/tribes-in-adamawa/&hl=en-NG

https://idonsabi.com/tribes-in-plateau/

Let's concentrate on KD now and leave Adamawa and taraba bcuz it's like we are derailing the topic in hand
Can you please mention the name of the Kanuri village or community in Plateau or Adamawa? What is the name of their district head or traditional ruler? That friend of yours must be one of the settlers in Jos who call themselves Jasawa.

If your friend said he was from Nasarawa state, then it is understandable, because we have the Kambaris of Lafia in Nasarawa state (who are descendants of Kanuri immigrants). They have been in Lafia for like 200 years now (more than 6 generations).

You see these LGAs? Askira-Uba, Chibok, Biu, Kwaya Kusar, Hawul, Gwoza, Shani. These are LGAs in Southern Borno which seperate Adamawa from Kanuri LGAs. These places I listed in Borno state do not even have Kanuri indigenes, let alone Adamawa state.

See, I am taking my time to type lengthy words, I don't want to waste it on ignorance. Go and make proper inquiries before you come here to make assertions abeg. I cannot be spoonfeeding your ignorance everywhere.

Kanuris are only found as indigenes in Borno north & Central + Damboa (Borno south), in Yobe north & central and in few LGAs in Jigawa and Bauchi north. Then the immigrants in Lafia. Chikena. Anywhere else you find them, they are not indigenes! Kajiko?
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by grandstar(m): 3:02am On Oct 21, 2019
Nowenuse:
El rufai no doubt is a visionary leader and is hardworking. This was why many Southern Kaduna people supported him in 2015, believing he will make Kaduna more progressive for everyone.
However, after they started seeing his body language and how bigoted he was, they started withdrawing. Instead of him to appeal to them and make it up to them by showing them kindness. He openly called them an inconsequential minority and told them that they are less than 30% in Kaduna state.

El rufai signed for an emirate to be in Kachia. Is that not madness? He is very lucky he did not try that in Zangon Kataf or Jaba, or else he would have been the one begging for peace later on, just like Makarfi did after the Sharia crisis.
Many Zaria people were against the muslim-muslim ticket, cos they knew how terrible this is in a state where christians are about half of the population. All of them eventually followed up, as is usual with the herd mentality of Hausa-fulanis.

In El-rufai's mind, he must have succeeded, but he doesn't knows he has sown a seed of hatred and division which will germinate very soon.
Even a state like Gombe which the christians are like 40% will never give a muslim deputy, let alone Kaduna.

The same stupid Elrufai brought foreign investors to Kagoro to build a Potato mill, because Kagoro is a part of the Plateau and temperate climate crops grow there just like Plateau state. The indigenes rejected it and told him to take it to Zaria. He cannot because Potatos don't grow in Zaria. Is this not reaping from sowing seeds of hatred? You discriminate and insult a people and you need their lands.
The indigenes themselves know that even if they give their lands for the industry, at the end of the day, everybody working in the industry would be Hausa fulanis cos Elrufai will not disappoint in this aspect.

See, no matter the investmemts Elrufai brings to Kaduna state, it will not take more than a serious crisis to chase all the investors away and everything is back to square 1.

Elrufai's actions and that of the likes of Buhari and other northern extremists have succeded in pushing Northern/Middlebelt minorities against the core-north and keeps on pushing us farther.

My parents and grandparents grew up loving Arewa and believing it to be their identity, but today I spit at the mention of the name Arewa. Igbos are 10x better and an alliance between my people and Igbos and Niger deltans would be far better.
You chased away foreign investors because of what? Who are the farmers that will supply the potato? Is it not you guys? The biggest beneficiaries will be you guys!

You prefer he elects your brother as his running mate rather than provide real jobs and income for thousands of people.
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by grandstar(m): 3:10am On Oct 21, 2019
Nowenuse:
When you don't know something, don't argue.
I am in Southern Kaduna groups and in 2015 about half of Southern Kaduna christians were supporting Elrufai. Go and find out.

Muslims in the entire Kaduna South senatorial district are not more than 15%, so there is no way they can deliver such huge number of votes without christian support.

You are talking about muslims in Southern Kaduna, Oh! Are there no christians in Northern Kaduna? Are there no indigenous christians all over Kubau, Zaria, Birnin Gwari, Igabi, Makarfi e.t.c?
Lere LGA is in Kaduna north and it is 50/50 or even majority christians.
Show me one LGA in Kaduna south with muslim majority or even 50/50. Rubbish


Kachia has no large muslim population apart from the Hausa fulani settlers in the town. Don't forget that Zangon-Kataf used to have the same muslim settlers in their towns too until they chased all of them away. So, you have no point here.
Your only point is that Adara people failed to chase away the Hausa settlers in their towns when the Katafs & Bajjus were doing theirs, today they are paying for it.


It was weakness, otherwise, why didn't he consult everybody in the state before starting such? He did not expect the kind of retaliation he got. Sharia state my foot. Bauchi christians also protested sharia law in their state but truly because they are a small minority, they were ignored.



I can see that out of your stark ignorance, you did not even include Sanga LGA among the christian majority areas. Since when did muslim become the majority there? Or you think Gwantu is now the same thing as the whole Sanga LGA? grin
Also, excluding Kauru too?. So the muslims who are only in Kauru town have now made the entire LGA muslim majority?

Kaduna south LGA is only slightly muslim majority because of the politics that removed christian areas like Sabon Tasha and added them to Chikun LGA.
Why did they do that if not fear? Immediately Katsina people left Kaduna state in 1987, a christian became the chairman of Kaduna LGA (indicating their majority) and they had to divide the LGA and re-arrange everything.

Point of correction before you mislead the public.
Kaduna has 23 LGAs. 10 are majority christian, 11 are majority muslim and 2 (Lere & Kaduna south) are almost 50/50.
Anything other than this is a stupid lie.


If you were smart, you would have known that Southern Kadunas are considered middlebelters because they are tribal ethnic groups and not Hausa-fulanis. There are Hausa christians all over Zaria, but are they middlebelters? no. Common sense.


The problem with you people is that you use the population of Hausa settlers in a town and use it to judge the religious percentage of an entire state or LGA where there are dozens and hundreds of other communities.
Foolish people have sat down to conclude that Plateau state has a significant muslim population because of Hausa settlers in Jos grin

Here is a better way to know the religious percentage of a place.
Ask yourself. Among all the ethnic groups that make up Plateau state, how many are predominantly muslim?

This is how I tell muslims that Nasarawa & Adamawa have a christian majority, they argue. And I ask them a simple question.
'Among all the ethnic groups in Adamawa, how many have a muslim majority population?'. They may keep shut or still say that 'Fulanis are the majority in the state and are predominantly muslim', and I ask them to list the LGAs that Fulani communities dominate, they cannot.

I am not the person that just pull statistics from nowhere like an illiterate. I will give you the ethnic and religious breakdown of every council wards, towns, local govt concils and constituencies to prove my point to you! Just like I have shown you that of Kaduna above. And if you still insist on arguing I will disgrace you with facts.

Only an idiot will compare Kaduna where christians have majority in many LGAs and an entire senatorial district, with Plateau state where muslims have majority in only 2 LGAs and Jos where many of them are settlers and not indigenes.
If the Christians are 50% of the population, why did a Muslim/Muslim ticket win? It simply shows that they aren't as much as you claim. The election clearly bares that out
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by grandstar(m): 3:18am On Oct 21, 2019
Nowenuse:
Buhari had 40% in Plateau in 2015 cos many people were tired of GEJ and most importantly people hated Jang too and wanted to pay him and PDP back for forcing a wrong candidate on the state. Many were also swayed with the CHANGE slogan.
Now, what reason does Buhari have to get 40% in 2019?

Anybody saying Taraba is predominantly muslim is the biggest joker there ever is grin

Apart from the Fulanis in the state who dominate only Gassol & Jalingo LGA, only the Wurukuns (where the APC gov candidate came from) who are like ⅓ of the population of Karim Lamido LGA have up to 80% muslim population.
Then you have the Jukun Jibu (Jibawa) who are the majority in Bali & Gashaka LGA and Chamba of Bali, both of whom are like 65% muslim each.
Besides these ethnic groups, no other ethnic group in Taraba state has a muslim majority.
Mambillas of Sardauna are 50/50.

Among the about 60 ethnic groups that make up Taraba, only 5 are predominantly muslim and you claim the state is majority muslim?
Muslims only have up to 30% in Taraba because Fulanis & Jibawa have large populations and also, many Hausa settlers have come to Taraba.

If the Jukun clans of Taraba south are seperated, then fulanis become the largest ethnic group in the state with like 15% of the states population.

Out of the 16 LGAs that make up Taraba state, muslims are only majority in 4 (Bali, Gassol, Ibi & Jalingo) where they make about 70% of the population in each.
Sardauna, Gashaka & Ardo Kola are a 50/50 while the remaining 9 are christian majority with some like Ussa, Zing, Takum & Donga being over 90% christian.
Wukari is the largest city in the state and muslims have been chased out of the town, they only live on the outskirts.
Do you know that the APC gov candidate did not even bother to go to most LGAs in Taraba south to campaign? Cos he is not sure of his life in those areas, let alone any single votes.

Taraba South is 90% christian. Completely owned by the Jukun clans with Tiv settlers and Hausa settlers in Ibi. Most fulanis have been completely chased out from here.

Taraba north is 70% christian. The Mumuyes who are mostly christian, majority in 2 LGAs and minority in 2 LGAs are the largest tribe here.
Followed by the Konas (Jukuns), majority in 2 and minority in 1. Then Fulanis, majority in 1 and minority in 2. Then all other dozens of tribes who are mostly christian except Wurukun.

Taraba central is 65% muslim. Jibawa the largest tribe here, majority in 2 LGAs followed by Fulanis, majority in 1 and minority in 1, then Mambilla and others. Jibawas are ⅔ muslim, fulanis are muslim, Mambillas are 50/50 and the other tribes are mostly christians.

All the 3 senatorial district have about equal populations cos Wukari the largest city is in the south. Jalingo the capital is in the north (with the most LGAs), while the central has 3 of the most populated LGAs among the top 5 in the state.

This is the breakdown of Taraba state. Now, do your arithmetic and tell me how Taraba can be muslim majority.

Adamawa has more muslims than Taraba. Adamawa is like 60-65% christian. And I can give you the breakdown if you want.

Cc alhassanyusuf29
Taraba is majority Christian while Adamawa is majority Muslim. That is obvious from the winners of the gubernatorial elections in these states
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nobody: 5:43am On Oct 21, 2019
fk002:
They said Northern governors not PDP governors!!


Darius is one of the worst governor in Northern Nigeria, visit Taraba and see for your self.
my list was straight , I didn't even have pdp or apcin mind when dropping my submission.
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by MyMouth(m): 6:22am On Oct 21, 2019
MelesZenawi:
The best northern Governor so far is Alhaji Bello Masari of katsina , Former Governor Ibrahim Idris...

Also in my good book is Gov Yahya Bello. He did well and his people are returning him for another term.

Also Ganduje is another Governor per excellence.

As for Governor Matawalle, he is never a pdp member. All his agenda bleeds APC.

With time he will decamp and join his brotherhood in APC.


Finally Governor Darius is trying.
Wait, which yahaya bello? U are joking right? No, jus telling me you are joking and not mad! Because I can't imagine a sane person calling the name of that cretin in the gathering of humans unless ofcourse you are mad!
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nobody: 6:27am On Oct 21, 2019
MyMouth:
Wait, which yahaya bello? U are joking right? No, jus telling me you are joking and not mad! Because I can't imagine a sane person calling the name of that cretin in the gathering of humans unless ofcourse you are mad!
Can you read at all..
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by MyMouth(m): 8:49am On Oct 21, 2019
MelesZenawi:
Can you read at all..
Do u know what u wrote at all? I guess u were high on some pig shi.t when u typed it. Someone will be staying in his shrine somewhere far away and be commenting on a state he knows nothing about. Yahaya Bello my arse!
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by garfield1(op): 9:09am On Oct 21, 2019
grandstar:
Taraba is majority Christian while Adamawa is majority Muslim. That is obvious from the winners of the gubernatorial elections in these states
Gbam
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by garfield1(op): 9:14am On Oct 21, 2019
Nowenuse:
Buhari had 40% in Plateau in 2015 cos many people were tired of GEJ and most importantly people hated Jang too and wanted to pay him and PDP back for forcing a wrong candidate on the state. Many were also swayed with the CHANGE slogan.
Now, what reason does Buhari have to get 40% in 2019?

Anybody saying Taraba is predominantly muslim is the biggest joker there ever is grin

Apart from the Fulanis in the state who dominate only Gassol & Jalingo LGA, only the Wurukuns (where the APC gov candidate came from) who are like ⅓ of the population of Karim Lamido LGA have up to 80% muslim population.
Then you have the Jukun Jibu (Jibawa) who are the majority in Bali & Gashaka LGA and Chamba of Bali, both of whom are like 65% muslim each.
Besides these ethnic groups, no other ethnic group in Taraba state has a muslim majority.
Mambillas of Sardauna are 50/50.

Among the about 60 ethnic groups that make up Taraba, only 5 are predominantly muslim and you claim the state is majority muslim?
Muslims only have up to 30% in Taraba because Fulanis & Jibawa have large populations and also, many Hausa settlers have come to Taraba.

If the Jukun clans of Taraba south are seperated, then fulanis become the largest ethnic group in the state with like 15% of the states population.

Out of the 16 LGAs that make up Taraba state, muslims are only majority in 4 (Bali, Gassol, Ibi & Jalingo) where they make about 70% of the population in each.
Sardauna, Gashaka & Ardo Kola are a 50/50 while the remaining 9 are christian majority with some like Ussa, Zing, Takum & Donga being over 90% christian.
Wukari is the largest city in the state and muslims have been chased out of the town, they only live on the outskirts.
Do you know that the APC gov candidate did not even bother to go to most LGAs in Taraba south to campaign? Cos he is not sure of his life in those areas, let alone any single votes.

Taraba South is 90% christian. Completely owned by the Jukun clans with Tiv settlers and Hausa settlers in Ibi. Most fulanis have been completely chased out from here.

Taraba north is 70% christian. The Mumuyes who are mostly christian, majority in 2 LGAs and minority in 2 LGAs are the largest tribe here.
Followed by the Konas (Jukuns), majority in 2 and minority in 1. Then Fulanis, majority in 1 and minority in 2. Then all other dozens of tribes who are mostly christian except Wurukun.

Taraba central is 65% muslim. Jibawa the largest tribe here, majority in 2 LGAs followed by Fulanis, majority in 1 and minority in 1, then Mambilla and others. Jibawas are ⅔ muslim, fulanis are muslim, Mambillas are 50/50 and the other tribes are mostly christians.

All the 3 senatorial district have about equal populations cos Wukari the largest city is in the south. Jalingo the capital is in the north (with the most LGAs), while the central has 3 of the most populated LGAs among the top 5 in the state.

This is the breakdown of Taraba state. Now, do your arithmetic and tell me how Taraba can be muslim majority.

Adamawa has more muslims than Taraba. Adamawa is like 60-65% christian. And I can give you the breakdown if you want.

Cc alhassanyusuf29
I met two guys in uniport last week.i dont know their ethnicity but there from taraba,gashaka to be precise.they said thatthe fulanis are the most populous tribe in taraba.they dominate six lgas of gassol,gashaka,ardo kola,jalingo,sardauna and bali.that they are also in great numbers in lau and karim lamido lgas.

They also claimed that the mumuyes predominate zing,yorro and have a reasonable population in lau.they stated that jukuns are only found in wukari and takum while the kutebs are found in ussa and takum.
They also claimed that the tivs populate wukari,takum,donga and gassol while the mambillas are in sardauna and ibi.
According to them,the ichens dominate kurmi lga while the chambas are in donga and takum and the pansos are in ibi.
They also alluded that muslims dominate northern taraba,make up about 60% of central taraba and have a huge presence in 2 out of the 5 lgas in sourhern taraba and that since most muslims in taraba are not enlightened or educated,it allows the christians to dominate politically and socially.
I will like indigenes of taraba and residents to react to the above assertions.thank you.


Thats from my post.nobody could challenge it.jukuns are only in 2 lgas,many other ethnicitues claim jukun but are not jukun for security purposes.even tivs are more than jukuns in taraba.even if christians are more than muslim,its 45 55.
In adamawa,christians dominate 8 lgas.
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by garfield1(op): 9:15am On Oct 21, 2019
fk002:
Are we talking about good governance or tribalism? You just stated it on your earlier post that Tribalism was one of the factor that brought down Jang government.
That guy get issues oh
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by fk002: 9:55am On Oct 21, 2019
Nyamuri:
Who is your best northern governor, in general? It doesn have to be base on party line
I go with Dankwambo
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nyamuri: 1:23pm On Oct 21, 2019
Nowenuse:
In that post of mine which you are quoting, I clearled agreed that Atiku can never win Niger state, cos I knew many Niger people were not part of the forum. Of course, many Nupes and other Niger muslims do not join middlebelt groups. Likewise the Yorubas of Kwara & Kogi.
But Igalas & Ebiras were well represented in those names in the comments.
So, I want you to add the votes of Plateau, Nasarawa, FCT, Benue & Kogi in the last election and tell me who won between Buhari & Atiku.

Atiku won in all these areas combined of course, even with all the rigging. So my prediction never lied. The rigging only reduced the percentage.

2ndly, my telling you to go to facebook and check tribal groups of middlebelt tribes has nothing to do with a regional group based on an agitation.
If you go to check an Igala group on facebook for instance. You will see Igalas of all religions and hometowns there. All Igalas know that they are Igalas and cherish the identity. So, it will be a good representation. So, please you have no point here.
If I make an assertion with facts, kindly refute it with facts as well. You cannot refute a good ethno-religious breakdown based on election results. That is poor.

lol. I see how your desperately looking for a way out of the maze u entangled urself into.. these are exactly ur words, and I quote

"I pity for those who think that most middlebelters will vote for Buhari because he is from the North and we are called North-central.

"The only state Buhari can win in the middlebelt is Niger state"

"APC is leaving the entire North-central next year."

Lol. Who are you fooling? These are exactly ur comments, the internet doesn't lie nor forgets.. the only exception you made was Niger state, after generalizing that APC/buhari won't win the MB, now ur shamelessly trying to cherry-pick some specific state and tribes.. or is nasarawa, kogi, Niger and kwarra that Buhari not part of MB anymore grin

You even said "Governor Lalong, you are packing your bags back to Shendam next year" , did that come to pass too? grin cheesy.. All your predictions have been defeated, You can only fool southerners, but not us

Hahah fool!! You think ur debating with a illiterate undecided
Muslims bring out underaged children to vote in elections or do you also want me to prove this to you? I can show you. But can you ever show me any proof of underage christians voting? Abeg we know all these things.

I have shown you instances where muslims win elections in christian dominated areas, can you show me one place in the entire north where a christian won an election in a muslim majority area since 1999? I am talking of local politics and not presidency elections.

Muslims carry the blind, the lame, the deaf, the old and frail to go and vote, people are carried on wheelchair to vote. Should I show you the pictures? They are all over the internet. Can you show me that happening among christians?

These and more should clearly tell us the truth about who take elections more seriously.

Also, should we post the PVC collection list and Voters turn out list (against registered voters) and let us see who has the highest? Abegi. Stop deceiving yourself.

This is why I believe that other people have no business in sharing one country with Hausa fulanis. People who take elections more serious than education.

I'm talking about the percentage of voters that voted for Ashiru in Christian dominated area of kaduna state, which is SK, not south Nigeria in general.. do you reason logically or rationally at all before u spew trash, or are you telling me Muslim underage voters rigged for El-rufai in Christian dominated LG like Zango kataf, kajuru, kuara, jaba, jeme'a etc which Ashiru got over 70% votes!! How will that be possible if they rigged in favor of El-rufai? Ur contradicting urlself

Ashiru got 87,546 in Zango kataf and 63,124 in jeme'a (predominantly Christian areas), while, he only got 28,624 in his LG kudan... El-rufai only defeated Ashiru kudan by 234,130 votes!!

All these statistics and your telling me SK did not take the election serious.. are you trying to be a nuisance or what!! Bcuz clearly this is getting embrassing

If you say there are underage voters that's rigged for El-rufai, then logically his margin of victory should have been way higher than what he got, why was that not the case.. Lol. You keep using ur own argument against urself
Can you please mention the name of the Kanuri village or community in Plateau or Adamawa? What is the name of their district head or traditional ruler? That friend of yours must be one of the settlers in Jos who call themselves Jasawa.

If your friend said he was from Nasarawa state, then it is understandable, because we have the Kambaris of Lafia in Nasarawa state (who are descendants of Kanuri immigrants). They have been in Lafia for like 200 years now (more than 6 generations).

You see these LGAs? Askira-Uba, Chibok, Biu, Kwaya Kusar, Hawul, Gwoza, Shani. These are LGAs in Southern Borno which seperate Adamawa from Kanuri LGAs. These places I listed in Borno state do not even have Kanuri indigenes, let alone Adamawa state.

See, I am taking my time to type lengthy words, I don't want to waste it on ignorance. Go and make proper inquiries before you come here to make assertions abeg. I cannot be spoonfeeding your ignorance everywhere.

My bro, Nowenuse.. I have clearly schooled you since this debate started, ur running out of ideas and desperately clinging to straws, you keeping going around the same circle, sort of a hula hoop grin.. all ur good at is attaching numbers and percentages to tribes and states without bringing any tangible and concrete evidence to validate ur argument.. everybody can make insinuation, but its useless till u back it up with proof

I have showed you and indicated my evidence twice with a link attached to it, but ur still insisting and denying without any authentic document, link or publication to support your argument

I want a link or publication to support ur claim that there are no kanuri in Adamawa and platue, just like how I provided you one.. not all these useless English, grammar, tribes, numbers you keep attaching!! It means nothing to me!!

In the court of law, we use evidence not sentiments or emotions.. until you can present it, don't quote me again with baseless jargons
Kanuris are only found as indigenes in Borno north & Central + Damboa (Borno south), in Yobe north & central and in few LGAs in Jigawa and Bauchi north. Then the immigrants in Lafia. Chikena. Anywhere else you find them, they are not indigenes! Kajiko?
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by shugabasbn: 2:23pm On Oct 21, 2019
Kwakwanso
Dakwambo
Bafarawa
Kashim Ibrahim Shettima
Muhammad Lawal
In descending order
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by thundafire: 2:28pm On Oct 21, 2019
MelesZenawi:
The best northern Governor so far is Alhaji Bello Masari of katsina , Former Governor Ibrahim Idris...

Also in my good book is Gov Yahya Bello. He did well and his people are returning him for another term.

Also Ganduje is another Governor per excellence.

As for Governor Matawalle, he is never a pdp member. All his agenda bleeds APC.

With time he will decamp and join his brotherhood in APC.


Finally Governor Darius is trying.
u took time choosing the worst of the worst dat our past useless leaders are learning the ropes from these useless names u called
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by shugabasbn: 2:33pm On Oct 21, 2019
1.Kwakwanso
2.Dakwambo
3.Bafarawa
4.Kashim Ibrahim Shettima
5.Muhammad Lawal
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nowenuse: 3:40pm On Oct 21, 2019
nyamuri
garfield1
fk002
grandstar

You guys should look at this map below carefully. These are all the areas I am talking about encircled within red.
The problem with you guys is that you have never sat down with a map to see how the places are.
Someone was asking me how does Southern Kebbi connect to Southern Borno, well, there is it on the map.
Southern Kebbi shares boundary with Eastern Niger which shares boundary with Southern Kaduna. Southern Kaduna shares boundary with Nasarawa & Plateau which both share boundary with Taraba. Taraba shares boundary with Southern Gombe and Adamawa which both share boundary with Southern Borno. Simple as ABC.
Taraba itself almost shares boundary with Cross River in the South-South.

Now I dare all of you to go and check the indigenous ethnic groups in all these areas encircled in red and tell me how many of them are predominantly muslim.

There are about 150-200 ethnic groups in all these encircled areas and apart from the Hausa-fulani settlers in these areas, only like 5-10 ethnic groups in that circle can claim muslim majority. The rest are mostly christians.

We are not concerned about the population of Hausa fulanis, Kanuris, Nupes or whoever outside these areas. This is our area of focus and Hausa fulanis are not the majority within these areas. Chikena.

Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nowenuse: 3:46pm On Oct 21, 2019
grandstar:
You chased away foreign investors because of what? Who are the farmers that will supply the potato? Is it not you guys? The biggest beneficiaries will be you guys!

You prefer he elects your brother as his running mate rather than provide real jobs and income for thousands of people.
With or without the foreign investors, the farmers will still sell their potatoes. So it makes no difference.
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nowenuse: 3:49pm On Oct 21, 2019
grandstar:
If the Christians are 50% of the population, why did a Muslim/Muslim ticket win? It simply shows that they aren't as much as you claim. The election clearly bares that out
For me, I think the christians in Kaduna are something around 45%.

Muslims play politics better than christians. This is the simple reason why. Christians don't take elections as a do or die affair, but muslims do and that is why they register underage voters.
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nowenuse: 3:59pm On Oct 21, 2019
grandstar:
Taraba is majority Christian while Adamawa is majority Muslim. That is obvious from the winners of the gubernatorial elections in these states
Elections are a bad way of judging.
Christians are the majority in Adamawa. In some muslim dominated areas, christian voters are usually suppressed. Especially in places which are controlled by emirates.

Going by your political judgement, what will you say by the fact that 2 out of the 3 senators in Adamawa are christians?
What will you say by the fact that Buhari lost elections in Adamawa in 2011 meanwhile he won all the core-northern states? Buhari only won in Adamawa in 2015 because BH had devastated many christian strongholds in Adamawa north.
This year, Buhari lost Adamawa. Check the votes and see that Atiku got more votes in christian areas and lost most muslim areas.
In the gov election, most muslims voted APC and christians voted PDP and PDP won.

Christians live mostly in the villages because they are more indigenous and they are often times being hindered and manipulated by the muslims in the towns (in areas where the towns are being controlled by emirates).

Cc garfield
Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by garfield1(op): 4:01pm On Oct 21, 2019
[quote author=Nyamuri post=83333306][/quote]Clearly,you settled the argument abi debate
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