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| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by fk002: 11:06pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
Nowenuse:Are we talking about good governance or tribalism? You just stated it on your earlier post that Tribalism was one of the factor that brought down Jang government. |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by fk002: 11:09pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
MelesZenawi:They said Northern governors not PDP governors!! Darius is one of the worst governor in Northern Nigeria, visit Taraba and see for your self. |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by fk002: 11:19pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
Nowenuse:I didn't bother to read what you were yabbing about but your last paragraph caught my attention. How is you and your people opinion on Arewa relevant on the scheme of Nigerian politics? Arewa is naturally diverse culturally, if you are saying that you ain't Arewa how on earth will you be able to carve out your imaginary middle belt? I don't think it will ever be possible, when the likes of Nasarawa, Niger, Kwara, and kogi have something in common with North "Religion". |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by fk002: 11:32pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
Nowenuse:Okay I have seen that you pin point all the region that you want to call middle belt, how can you bring Southern Borno and Eastern kebbi together without pathing Bauchi and the rest of core north? Or would they pack themselves and settle on the red mud erosion ravaged SE that are fighting over land? |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nyamuri: 12:15am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Hahaha watch him claim ur a hausa/fulani/muslim bcuz you defer BafanaBafana: |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nyamuri: 12:18am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Who is your best northern governor, in general? It doesn have to be base on party line fk002: |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nyamuri: 12:25am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Hahaha thx for amplifying it, that's what I'm trying to tell him all this while.. he thinks the middle belt is made up of benue and platue only, whenever they issue a statement, ull only see the likes of Joseph tarka, Jerry gana etc making it a Christian affair.. one wonders if there are any Muslims in middle belt ![]() Or maybe kwarra, kogi, nasarawa and Niger are not in MB ![]() fk002: |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nowenuse: 12:39am On Oct 21, 2019 |
garfield1:Buhari had 40% in Plateau in 2015 cos many people were tired of GEJ and most importantly people hated Jang too and wanted to pay him and PDP back for forcing a wrong candidate on the state. Many were also swayed with the CHANGE slogan. Now, what reason does Buhari have to get 40% in 2019? Anybody saying Taraba is predominantly muslim is the biggest joker there ever is ![]() Apart from the Fulanis in the state who dominate only Gassol & Jalingo LGA, only the Wurukuns (where the APC gov candidate came from) who are like ⅓ of the population of Karim Lamido LGA have up to 80% muslim population. Then you have the Jukun Jibu (Jibawa) who are the majority in Bali & Gashaka LGA and Chamba of Bali, both of whom are like 65% muslim each. Besides these ethnic groups, no other ethnic group in Taraba state has a muslim majority. Mambillas of Sardauna are 50/50. Among the about 60 ethnic groups that make up Taraba, only 5 are predominantly muslim and you claim the state is majority muslim? Muslims only have up to 30% in Taraba because Fulanis & Jibawa have large populations and also, many Hausa settlers have come to Taraba. If the Jukun clans of Taraba south are seperated, then fulanis become the largest ethnic group in the state with like 15% of the states population. Out of the 16 LGAs that make up Taraba state, muslims are only majority in 4 (Bali, Gassol, Ibi & Jalingo) where they make about 70% of the population in each. Sardauna, Gashaka & Ardo Kola are a 50/50 while the remaining 9 are christian majority with some like Ussa, Zing, Takum & Donga being over 90% christian. Wukari is the largest city in the state and muslims have been chased out of the town, they only live on the outskirts. Do you know that the APC gov candidate did not even bother to go to most LGAs in Taraba south to campaign? Cos he is not sure of his life in those areas, let alone any single votes. Taraba South is 90% christian. Completely owned by the Jukun clans with Tiv settlers and Hausa settlers in Ibi. Most fulanis have been completely chased out from here. Taraba north is 70% christian. The Mumuyes who are mostly christian, majority in 2 LGAs and minority in 2 LGAs are the largest tribe here. Followed by the Konas (Jukuns), majority in 2 and minority in 1. Then Fulanis, majority in 1 and minority in 2. Then all other dozens of tribes who are mostly christian except Wurukun. Taraba central is 65% muslim. Jibawa the largest tribe here, majority in 2 LGAs followed by Fulanis, majority in 1 and minority in 1, then Mambilla and others. Jibawas are ⅔ muslim, fulanis are muslim, Mambillas are 50/50 and the other tribes are mostly christians. All the 3 senatorial district have about equal populations cos Wukari the largest city is in the south. Jalingo the capital is in the north (with the most LGAs), while the central has 3 of the most populated LGAs among the top 5 in the state. This is the breakdown of Taraba state. Now, do your arithmetic and tell me how Taraba can be muslim majority. Adamawa has more muslims than Taraba. Adamawa is like 60-65% christian. And I can give you the breakdown if you want. Cc alhassanyusuf29 |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nobody: 1:11am On Oct 21, 2019 |
garfield1: |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nobody: 1:15am On Oct 21, 2019*. Modified: 6:53pm On Nov 25, 2019 |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nowenuse: 1:34am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Nyamuri:In that post of mine which you are quoting, I clearled agreed that Atiku can never win Niger state, cos I knew many Niger people were not part of the forum. Of course, many Nupes and other Niger muslims do not join middlebelt groups. Likewise the Yorubas of Kwara & Kogi. But Igalas & Ebiras were well represented in those names in the comments. So, I want you to add the votes of Plateau, Nasarawa, FCT, Benue & Kogi in the last election and tell me who won between Buhari & Atiku. Atiku won in all these areas combined of course, even with all the rigging. So my prediction never lied. The rigging only reduced the percentage. 2ndly, my telling you to go to facebook and check tribal groups of middlebelt tribes has nothing to do with a regional group based on an agitation. If you go to check an Igala group on facebook for instance. You will see Igalas of all religions and hometowns there. All Igalas know that they are Igalas and cherish the identity. So, it will be a good representation. So, please you have no point here. If I make an assertion with facts, kindly refute it with facts as well. You cannot refute a good ethno-religious breakdown based on election results. That is poor. Your lying to say Muslims take elections more serious than Christians, maybe in the south, but definitely not in KD.. we all have seen how pastors were daily instigating their members not to vote for El-rufai on a daily basis, to the point that El-rufai even said "even if I make pope my running mate, SK won't vote"... Ashiru kudan got 816, 234, while, El-rufai got 1,045,421, that's a margin of only 229,187!! Is this ur definition of not taking an election serious!Muslims bring out underaged children to vote in elections or do you also want me to prove this to you? I can show you. But can you ever show me any proof of underage christians voting? Abeg we know all these things. I have shown you instances where muslims win elections in christian dominated areas, can you show me one place in the entire north where a christian won an election in a muslim majority area since 1999? I am talking of local politics and not presidency elections. Muslims carry the blind, the lame, the deaf, the old and frail to go and vote, people are carried on wheelchair to vote. Should I show you the pictures? They are all over the internet. Can you show me that happening among christians? These and more should clearly tell us the truth about who take elections more seriously. Also, should we post the PVC collection list and Voters turn out list (against registered voters) and let us see who has the highest? Abegi. Stop deceiving yourself. This is why I believe that other people have no business in sharing one country with Hausa fulanis. People who take elections more serious than education. How can you say there are no kanuri in platue state and adamawa, I have a friend that is kanuri and from platue state.. it's clearly from this assertion that you don't know much about ur region. These people migrated centuries from Borno stateCan you please mention the name of the Kanuri village or community in Plateau or Adamawa? What is the name of their district head or traditional ruler? That friend of yours must be one of the settlers in Jos who call themselves Jasawa. If your friend said he was from Nasarawa state, then it is understandable, because we have the Kambaris of Lafia in Nasarawa state (who are descendants of Kanuri immigrants). They have been in Lafia for like 200 years now (more than 6 generations). You see these LGAs? Askira-Uba, Chibok, Biu, Kwaya Kusar, Hawul, Gwoza, Shani. These are LGAs in Southern Borno which seperate Adamawa from Kanuri LGAs. These places I listed in Borno state do not even have Kanuri indigenes, let alone Adamawa state. See, I am taking my time to type lengthy words, I don't want to waste it on ignorance. Go and make proper inquiries before you come here to make assertions abeg. I cannot be spoonfeeding your ignorance everywhere. Kanuris are only found as indigenes in Borno north & Central + Damboa (Borno south), in Yobe north & central and in few LGAs in Jigawa and Bauchi north. Then the immigrants in Lafia. Chikena. Anywhere else you find them, they are not indigenes! Kajiko? |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by grandstar(m): 3:02am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Nowenuse:You chased away foreign investors because of what? Who are the farmers that will supply the potato? Is it not you guys? The biggest beneficiaries will be you guys! You prefer he elects your brother as his running mate rather than provide real jobs and income for thousands of people. |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by grandstar(m): 3:10am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Nowenuse:If the Christians are 50% of the population, why did a Muslim/Muslim ticket win? It simply shows that they aren't as much as you claim. The election clearly bares that out |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by grandstar(m): 3:18am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Nowenuse:Taraba is majority Christian while Adamawa is majority Muslim. That is obvious from the winners of the gubernatorial elections in these states |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nobody: 5:43am On Oct 21, 2019 |
fk002:my list was straight , I didn't even have pdp or apcin mind when dropping my submission. |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by MyMouth(m): 6:22am On Oct 21, 2019 |
MelesZenawi:Wait, which yahaya bello? U are joking right? No, jus telling me you are joking and not mad! Because I can't imagine a sane person calling the name of that cretin in the gathering of humans unless ofcourse you are mad! |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nobody: 6:27am On Oct 21, 2019 |
MyMouth:Can you read at all.. |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by MyMouth(m): 8:49am On Oct 21, 2019 |
MelesZenawi:Do u know what u wrote at all? I guess u were high on some pig shi.t when u typed it. Someone will be staying in his shrine somewhere far away and be commenting on a state he knows nothing about. Yahaya Bello my arse! |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by garfield1(op): 9:09am On Oct 21, 2019 |
grandstar:Gbam |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by garfield1(op): 9:14am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Nowenuse:I met two guys in uniport last week.i dont know their ethnicity but there from taraba,gashaka to be precise.they said thatthe fulanis are the most populous tribe in taraba.they dominate six lgas of gassol,gashaka,ardo kola,jalingo,sardauna and bali.that they are also in great numbers in lau and karim lamido lgas. They also claimed that the mumuyes predominate zing,yorro and have a reasonable population in lau.they stated that jukuns are only found in wukari and takum while the kutebs are found in ussa and takum. They also claimed that the tivs populate wukari,takum,donga and gassol while the mambillas are in sardauna and ibi. According to them,the ichens dominate kurmi lga while the chambas are in donga and takum and the pansos are in ibi. They also alluded that muslims dominate northern taraba,make up about 60% of central taraba and have a huge presence in 2 out of the 5 lgas in sourhern taraba and that since most muslims in taraba are not enlightened or educated,it allows the christians to dominate politically and socially. I will like indigenes of taraba and residents to react to the above assertions.thank you. Thats from my post.nobody could challenge it.jukuns are only in 2 lgas,many other ethnicitues claim jukun but are not jukun for security purposes.even tivs are more than jukuns in taraba.even if christians are more than muslim,its 45 55. In adamawa,christians dominate 8 lgas. |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by garfield1(op): 9:15am On Oct 21, 2019 |
fk002:That guy get issues oh |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by fk002: 9:55am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Nyamuri:I go with Dankwambo |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nyamuri: 1:23pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Nowenuse: |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by shugabasbn: 2:23pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Kwakwanso Dakwambo Bafarawa Kashim Ibrahim Shettima Muhammad Lawal In descending order |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by thundafire: 2:28pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
MelesZenawi:u took time choosing the worst of the worst dat our past useless leaders are learning the ropes from these useless names u called |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by shugabasbn: 2:33pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
1.Kwakwanso 2.Dakwambo 3.Bafarawa 4.Kashim Ibrahim Shettima 5.Muhammad Lawal |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nowenuse: 3:40pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
nyamuri garfield1 fk002 grandstar You guys should look at this map below carefully. These are all the areas I am talking about encircled within red. The problem with you guys is that you have never sat down with a map to see how the places are. Someone was asking me how does Southern Kebbi connect to Southern Borno, well, there is it on the map. Southern Kebbi shares boundary with Eastern Niger which shares boundary with Southern Kaduna. Southern Kaduna shares boundary with Nasarawa & Plateau which both share boundary with Taraba. Taraba shares boundary with Southern Gombe and Adamawa which both share boundary with Southern Borno. Simple as ABC. Taraba itself almost shares boundary with Cross River in the South-South. Now I dare all of you to go and check the indigenous ethnic groups in all these areas encircled in red and tell me how many of them are predominantly muslim. There are about 150-200 ethnic groups in all these encircled areas and apart from the Hausa-fulani settlers in these areas, only like 5-10 ethnic groups in that circle can claim muslim majority. The rest are mostly christians. We are not concerned about the population of Hausa fulanis, Kanuris, Nupes or whoever outside these areas. This is our area of focus and Hausa fulanis are not the majority within these areas. Chikena.
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| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nowenuse: 3:46pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
grandstar:With or without the foreign investors, the farmers will still sell their potatoes. So it makes no difference. |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nowenuse: 3:49pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
grandstar:For me, I think the christians in Kaduna are something around 45%. Muslims play politics better than christians. This is the simple reason why. Christians don't take elections as a do or die affair, but muslims do and that is why they register underage voters. |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by Nowenuse: 3:59pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
grandstar:Elections are a bad way of judging. Christians are the majority in Adamawa. In some muslim dominated areas, christian voters are usually suppressed. Especially in places which are controlled by emirates. Going by your political judgement, what will you say by the fact that 2 out of the 3 senators in Adamawa are christians? What will you say by the fact that Buhari lost elections in Adamawa in 2011 meanwhile he won all the core-northern states? Buhari only won in Adamawa in 2015 because BH had devastated many christian strongholds in Adamawa north. This year, Buhari lost Adamawa. Check the votes and see that Atiku got more votes in christian areas and lost most muslim areas. In the gov election, most muslims voted APC and christians voted PDP and PDP won. Christians live mostly in the villages because they are more indigenous and they are often times being hindered and manipulated by the muslims in the towns (in areas where the towns are being controlled by emirates). Cc garfield |
| Re: Who Is The Best Governor In The North Since 1999? by garfield1(op): 4:01pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
[quote author=Nyamuri post=83333306][/quote]Clearly,you settled the argument abi debate |
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.. Ashiru only got 22,022 in his LG(kudan), while he 87,542 in Zango kataf(a Christian dominated area), and you foolishly say Christians don't take election serious