candelahria:
The book of Daniel

Though it does not in anyway imply the desire would therefore be for men.

budaatum:

Though it does not in anyway imply the desire would therefore be for men.

It says that he would not desire/love women.

candelahria:
It says that he would not desire/love women.

That does not mean he will therefore desire/love men!

He could desire/love dogs, or goats, or a piece of wood, or not desire/love anything at all. That's why many "think" instead of claiming the text is explicit about what it desires or loves.

The prince of this world fights anything that will see more people turn to the glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ.

@op, I wonder why you even bother yourself with these hell-bound atheists. They, like their father ( satan the devil, the ancient serpent and murderer), know that their time is short and are just here to tamper with the delicate balance of being the peace of Christ that surpasses all understanding, brings to you Ahayah's Child.

So, I'd advise you just ignore them and keep burning. Ye, brighter and brighter, excelling in His might.

For every atheist, you can be sure that our Daddy has preserved seven more blazing, blood-washed, Spirit-controlled, Christ-o-centric, heaven-bound, power-clothed Sons. Their antagonistic comments shouldn't deter you brother. They will have their part in the lake that burns with brimstone and sulfur for sure.

Shalom.

You are a very foolish black person.

candelahria:
The book of Daniel

Where in the book of Daniel?

budaatum:


A truer word you have not said. I indeed do not fear God.

They say fear is the beginning of Wisdom, but I chose to understand God instead, as in seek and find favor and a good name in the sight of God and man, instead of cowering in dreaded fear like you do because of your sinful ways. Do you know who also feared God? Those who said, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.” And he to whom the Lord said, “Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? If you do what is right, will you not be accepted?” And he of whom it is said [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+2%3A19&version=KJV]believes and trembles[/url].

While those who seek and have found are accepted and shepherded by God and fear and want for nothing even when they walk in the valley of the shadow of the dead. They abide in the Lord's tabernacle and dwell in the Lord's holy hill.

I will pray for you deg, that you fear no more and that you trust in God. Because if you do what is right you too will find favour and be accepted by God, but if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door where satan desires to have you deg, but you must rule over it in Christ's name!

"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell"

(Matthew 10:28).

When you fear God you will not have any man or devil to fear. This why you need to repent and put your trust in Jesus.

OLAADEGBU:

When you fear God you will not have any man or devil to fear.

Did you miss it the first time deg? I suggest you allow Jesus Christ to spit on mud and rub it in your eyes so that you can see.

Meanwhile let me help you by making it bold for you to read.

budaatum:

Thankfully, I have the Loving Merciful Lord and Messiah Jesus Christ in my life so no weapon degbu fashions against me shall prosper because even though I walk in the valley of the shadow of the death that you ignorantly threaten me with, I, buda, fear no evil, for the Lord is with buda, and the Lord's rod and staff they comfort buda, preparing a table before buda and anointing buda's head with oil so that buda's cup runneth over, and the goodness and mercy of the Almighty Lord follows buda all the days of buda's life: and buda, dwells in the house of the Lord for ever and ever. Amen.

May the Lord help you overcome your own fears.

budaatum:


Did you miss it the first time deg? I suggest you allow Jesus Christ to spit on mud and rub it in your eyes so that you can see.

Meanwhile let me help you by making it bold for you to read.



May the Lord help you overcome your own fears.

"In whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them"

(2 Corinthians 4:4).

Jesus told you who to fear and you are still arguing that you fear no God. Fear God and repent.

OLAADEGBU:


Jesus told you who to fear and you are still arguing that you fear no God. Fear God and repent.

You are a liar degbu, and the devil is obviously your father.

Show me where Jesus Christ told you to fear!

budaatum:


You are a liar degbu, and the devil is obviously your father.

Show me where Jesus Christ told you to fear!

I just showed it to you but I guess 'the god of this world' wouldn't let you see it.

OLAADEGBU:


I just showed it to you but I guess 'the god of this world' wouldn't let you see it.

You are a comedian, and a liar, and you are obviously ignorant and you are blind degbu!

Hear Christ in a way you ought to be familiar with.

budaatum:

You are a comedian, and a liar, and you are obviously ignorant and you are blind degbu!

Hear Christ in a way you ought to be familiar with.

The word FEAR appeared in that verse NOT because Jesus himself fear anyone.

Jesus said that to help humans know that it's rather reasonable to fear the one who can determine what will happen to you even after you're no more. Matthew 10:28

Humans are only PERMITTED to kill their fellow man and they can't do a single thing about your future prospect/hope of resurrection. But God can determine both!

So instead of fearing those who can't determine what will happen after death, why not fear the one who is able to swallow death itself! Isaiah 25:8

He was talking to those who had not accepted Christ into their life and worshipped God not.

Or is it not true that those who do worship God have no need to fear the Loving Father in Heaven?

The message to those who do worship God is

"Fear not! For the Lord is with you".

Maximus69:


The word FEAR appeared in that verse NOT because Jesus himself fear anyone.

budaatum:
He was talking to those who had not accepted Christ into their life and worshipped God not.

Or is it not true that those who do worship God have no need to fear the Loving Father in Heaven?

The message to those who do worship God is

"Fear not! For the Lord is with you".

buda! buda!! buda!!!

Well it's just a pity Kumuyi's ideology won't allow degbu to reason and see the light!

Everything you just said is excellent.

Jesus LOVE the father, he didn't FEAR the one whose name is LOVE. So Christians (followers of Christ) need not live or do anything in FEAR, whatever Christians do is motivated by LOVE not FEAR!

What Kumuyi instilled in them is TERROR so even when you're saying what makes sense more than that, Kumuyi's teaching won't allow them to think!

They must always live, eat, sleep, wake in FEAR so that Kumuyi's God won't roast them in fire!

Thanks for that!

Maximus69:


buda! buda!! buda!!!

Well it's just a pity Kumuyi's ideology won't allow degbu to reason and see the light!

Everything you just said is excellent.

Jesus LOVE the father, he didn't FEAR the one whose name is LOVE. So Christians (followers of Christ) need not live or do anything in FEAR, whatever Christians do is motivated by LOVE not FEAR!

Thanks for that!

It just pains me that people like degbu lead people astray with his own misunderstanding. He will not enter and will not let those who would, except in his own case, he thinks he is inside when the truth is that he is outside asking those inside to come outside to join him and cower in fear! It is such as him of whom it is said "gambled for his clothes by throwing dice".

Still, rejoice Max, that degbu exists. For without one in the dark as he, we would have no one to love! May his eyes open so that he too might see that those who have seen the light and the glory of the one and only Son who came from the Father are so full of grace and truth that they most definitely fear not because no darkness can overcome those the Lord shepherds.

We shall continue to ask the Father to forgive degbu for he does not know what he is doing.

The false prophets have instilled unwarranted FEAR in the hearts of their flocks, many of their followers have died due to stomach ulcer, many dresses like mourners, they find it hard to be tactful in the neighborhood.
All what their brains thinks is the terror of how people will be roasted alive in fire forever.

So when they see Jehovah's witnesses live peaceably, preach and teach zealously they're puzzled.
Because they're taught that it's impossible to be a Christian and live happily. Our women put on fine jewelries, make~overs, loving hairdos, polish their fine nails and our men spend good times in loving gatherings with alcoholic beverages.

They are totally confused!

Because their hellfire leaders have instilled unwarranted FEAR in their hearts, so instead of trying to find out why we're happily and zealously progressing with our ministry, their wicked leaders tell them God will torment good people in their hellfire all because these ones are not afraid of all their fabricated erroneous doctrines causing terror in the hearts of their followers!

budaatum:


You are a comedian, and a liar, and you are obviously ignorant and you are blind degbu!

Hear Christ in a way you ought to be familiar with.

Jesus said you should fear God. You cannot call Jesus Lord and say No, Lord! Saying Lord and No are mutually exclusive.

budaatum:

It just pains me that people like degbu lead people astray with his own misunderstanding. He will not enter and will not let those who would, except in his own case, he thinks he is inside when the truth is that he is outside asking those inside to come outside to join him and cower in fear! It is such as him of whom it is said "gambled for his clothes by throwing dice".

Still, rejoice Max, that degbu exists. For without one in the dark as he, we would have no one to love! May his eyes open so that he too might see that those who have seen the light and the glory of the one and only Son who came from the Father are so full of grace and truth that they most definitely fear not because no darkness can overcome those the Lord shepherds.

We shall continue to ask the Father to forgive degbu for he does not know what he is doing.

Of course God is ever willing to forgive suchlike ones!

But Jesus said there is a sin that's unforgivable. The very day he realizes that he's been fighting for no just course and yet continues fighting out of spite, then his sins will never be forgiven! Matthew 12:32

Maximus69:


Of course God is ever willing to forgive suchlike ones!

But Jesus said there is a sin that's unforgivable. The very day he realizes that he's been fighting for no just course and yet continues fighting out of spite, then his sins will never be forgiven! Matthew 12:32

That is why it is my hope he knows not what he does.

We can only warn him. Heeding is up to him.

OLAADEGBU:


Jesus said you should fear God. You cannot call Jesus Lord and say No, Lord! Saying Lord and No are mutually exclusive.

Let's assume you understand what Jesus said there Sir.

Please did Jesus show you;
How to FEAR God?

budaatum:

That is why it is my hope he knows not what he does.

We can only warn him. Heeding is up to him.

Once again buda, you're correct! Ezekiel 3:17-21

budaatum:


He was talking to those who had not accepted Christ into their life and worshipped God not.

Or is it not true that those who do worship God have no need to fear the Loving Father in Heaven?

The message to those who do worship God is

"Fear not! For the Lord is with you".

Hear the word of the Lord again in the gospel of Dr Luke:

"And I say to you My friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom you shall fear: Fear Him, which after He has killed has power to cast into hell; yea, I say to you, Fear Him"

(Luke 12:4-5).

You read it again from the Lord's mouth who you should fear. You can see that we cannot be on our way to heaven if we do not feel the danger of hell. Until the Holy Spirit convinces and convicts us of our sin we cannot be drawn to accepting Jesus as our Lord and Saviour. So the message is, fear God and you will have no one else to fear.

Maximus69:


The word FEAR appeared in that verse NOT because Jesus himself fear anyone.

No one is implying that Jesus feared anyone.

Maximus69:


Jesus said that to help humans know that it's rather reasonable to fear the one who can determine what will happen to you even after you're no more. Matthew 10:28

Are you not shooting yourself in the foot here? Is Jesus saying that it is reasonable to fear anyone or not?

Maximus69:


Humans are only PERMITTED to kill their fellow man and they can't do a single thing about your future prospect/hope of resurrection. But God can determine both!

I can see that you conveniently skipped the reality of hell in the afterlife. He did not mention the hope of resurrection except you mean the resurrection into damnation. Try and be consistent.

Maximus69:


So instead of fearing those who can't determine what will happen after death, why not fear the one who is able to swallow death itself! Isaiah 25:8

If truly there is no hell as you've been indoctrinated then we do not need to fear God because the wicked, for instance Adolf Hitler, will not be resurrected and he wouldn't even know about it.

OLAADEGBU:


Hear the word of the Lord again in the gospel of Dr Luke:

(Luke 12:4-5).

You read it again from the Lord's mouth who you should fear. You can see that we cannot be on our way to heaven if we do not feel the danger of hell. Until the Holy Spirit convinces and convicts us of our sin we cannot be drawn to accepting Jesus as our Lord and Saviour. So the message is, fear God and you will have no one else to fear.

It's a good one actually, just that you are far too blind to see.

The message is, "you that are going to be cast into hell, fear the Lord so that you may live". While those who have already accepted Jesus Christ shall surely not die but live eternally and so have nothing to fear.

You can tell by the fruits degbu. Those who have an abundance of fear inside their own hearts will preach a gospel of fear with their words and mouth. While those who's heart are filled with the Love of the Lord Jesus Christ will utter fruits accordingly.

Now, go and read through your posts degbu and come tell us what is abundantly inside your heart.

Maximus69:


buda! buda!! buda!!!

Well it's just a pity Kumuyi's ideology won't allow degbu to reason and see the light!

Everything you just said is excellent.

Jesus LOVE the father, he didn't FEAR the one whose name is LOVE. So Christians (followers of Christ) need not live or do anything in FEAR, whatever Christians do is motivated by LOVE not FEAR!

What Kumuyi instilled in them is TERROR so even when you're saying what makes sense more than that, Kumuyi's teaching won't allow them to think!

They must always live, eat, sleep, wake in FEAR so that Kumuyi's God won't roast them in fire!

Thanks for that!

"Sanctify the LORD of hosts Himself; and let Him be your fear, and let Him be your dread"

(Isaiah 8:13).

We are to fear God above and look to Him. He will either be our salvation or a stone of stumbling depending on whether we choose to fear Him or not.

budaatum:


It's a good one actually, just that you are far too blind to see.

The message is, "you that are going to be cast into hell, fear the Lord so that you may live". While those who have already accepted Jesus Christ shall surely not die but live eternally and so have nothing to fear.

You can tell by the fruits degbu. Those who have an abundance of fear inside their own hearts will preach a gospel of fear with their words and mouth. While those who's heart are filled with the Love of the Lord Jesus Christ will utter fruits accordingly.

Now, go and read through your posts degbu and come tell us what is abundantly inside your heart.

Let us see what was written in the Acts of Apostles and learn from them.

"Then had the churches rest throughout all Judea and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the fear of the Lord, and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost, were multiplied"

(Acts 9:31).

You can see how the true Christians had reverential fear of God and continued to grow to the ends of the earth not with false Christians but with true Christians who walked in the fear of the Lord.

Maximus69:


Let's assume you understand what Jesus said there Sir.

Please did Jesus show you;
How to FEAR God?

Maximus69:


buda! buda!! buda!!!

Well it's just a pity Kumuyi's ideology won't allow degbu to reason and see the light!

Everything you just said is excellent.

Jesus LOVE the father, he didn't FEAR the one whose name is LOVE. So Christians (followers of Christ) need not live or do anything in FEAR, whatever Christians do is motivated by LOVE not FEAR!

What Kumuyi instilled in them is TERROR so even when you're saying what makes sense more than that, Kumuyi's teaching won't allow them to think!

They must always live, eat, sleep, wake in FEAR so that Kumuyi's God won't roast them in fire!

Thanks for that!

"Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: For our God is a consuming fire" (Hebrews 12:28).

I will be surprised if these verses are in your NWT bible and if they are how will you twist it? Don't trifle with God, my friend. You should not think you can play games with God and get away with it. God doesn't play dice.

True Christians are on a pilgrim journey in this world as we are moving towards a heavenly kingdom. You do not have the ambition of going to heaven because you are earthbound. True Christians in the verses I quoted here recognise that we are to be serving God here on earth before we go to the place our Lord has prepared for us. We are admonished here to serve God acceptably, with reverence and godly fear. Christianity is not playing games but to have a real relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ who transforms our lives as we obey His holy words.

OLAADEGBU:




"Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: ]For our God is a consuming fire" (Hebrews 12:28).

I will be surprised if these verses are in your NWT bible and if they are how will you twist it? Don't trifle with God, my friend. You should not think you can play games with God and get away with it. God doesn't play dice.

True Christians are on a pilgrim journey in this world as we are moving towards a heavenly kingdom. You do not have the ambition of going to heaven because you are earthbound. True Christians in the verses I quoted here recognise that we are to be serving God here on earth before we go to the place our Lord has prepared for us. We are admonished here to serve God acceptably, with reverence and godly fear. Christianity is not playing games but to have a real relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ who transforms our lives as we obey His holy words.

Jehovah is of course a consuming fire!

What is the meaning of CONSUME?

And if FIRE actually CONSUMES something, does that thing remains?

Moreover have you ever heard that Jehovah's anger blazes against the righteous?

Is it not against those ruining the earth that God's burning anger blazes?

So what concerns his dear friends who are related to him through the faith like that of Abraham?

Or have you heard that Abraham was fearful of his dear friend?

Are you also having faith like that of Abraham?

And what could be the cause of FEAR if you're Abraham's offspring by faith in Christ Jesus?

My friend, just ask for the meaning of what was written in our book and we'll teach you. All what Kumuyi need is your tithe that's all!

OLAADEGBU:


(Isaiah 8:13).

We are to fear God above and look to Him. He will either be our salvation or a stone of stumbling depending on whether we choose to fear Him or not.

Helloooooooooo Mr Degbu, God's servants don't want to loose his friendship, it's those who are double minded that God's fear is burning against Sir, NOT those who LOVE him and are loyal to him!

Just mention the name of one single servant of God that's fearful of God's punishment?

Maximus69:


Jehovah is of course a consuming fire!

What is the meaning of CONSUME?

And if FIRE actually CONSUMES something, does that thing remains?

Moreover have you ever heard that Jehovah's anger blazes against the righteous?

Is it not against those ruining the earth that God's burning anger blazes?

So what concerns his dear friends who are related to him through the faith like that of Abraham?

Or have you heard that Abraham was fearful of his dear friend?

Are you also having faith like that of Abraham?

And what could be the cause of FEAR if you're Abraham's offspring by faith in Christ Jesus?

My friend, just ask for the meaning of what was written in our book and we'll teach you. All what Kumuyi need is your tithe that's all!

"For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God"

(Deuteronomy 4:24).

I see that you are still playing games with the word of God. Here it is again in the OT and see why you need a Saviour. If you place a dry leaf next to a burning fire the fire would not hesitate to consume it immediately. The fire must consume it because of its very nature. God by His nature must consume anything and everything that opposes His nature. We must put on the Lord Jesus Christ or we will be consumed by the ever-pure burning holiness of God. Jesus had warned us to fear the One who has the power to cast both the resurrected body, soul/spirit that would be conscious for all eternity in the lake of fire. Fear God and depart from your wicked ways. Members of your governing bodies will not be their to save you from the consuming fire of God if you refuse to repent and put your trust in Jesus.

Maximus69:


Helloooooooooo Mr Degbu, God's servants don't want to loose his friendship, it's those who are double minded that God's fear is burning against Sir, NOT those who LOVE him and are loyal to him!

Just mention the name of one single servant of God that's fearful of God's punishment?

"And I say to you My friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom you shall fear: Fear Him, which after He has killed has power to cast into hell; yea, I say to you, Fear Him"

(Luke 12:4-5).

Can you see who Jesus called friends in the verse above? Have you seen the One who has the power to cast into hell? May the Lord deliver you.