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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 8:26pm On Nov 14, 2019
rvp20182:
You cannot invent your own facts.You cannot force say for example that the sky is green.
but u're forcing urs.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by psychologygh: 8:27pm On Nov 14, 2019
rvp20182:
How do you measure or estimate an informal economy? it's like calculating GDP of the underworld.You don't do it.You formalize the economy.You turn the small business into SME then into Medium Enterprise then into real Enterprise then into multinational.What is the point of claiming you measure something unmeasurable like informal sector.Kenya and every country has such sector..US doesn't go measuring it's drug sector.You don't do it.There are no credible data .They don't pay taxes They don't exist.Except outside the law.Any data will be a wield guestimate.
we measure the 30% that we can formally calculate which lies in 70-80 billion dollars GDP,that's how our GDP keeps rebasing cos we are still widening our tax net and formal businesses for statistical and financial measurement purpose.

That's why we our purchasing power which can easily be measured hoovers more than 200 billion dollars buh our GDP norminal lingers around 70-80 billion dollars. Ghana had a GDP size of 47 billion dollars in 2012 which was more than the GDP of Kenya buh from nowhere, 2 years later just like magic,Kenya's GDP more than doubled due to this same rebasing.You claimed you had now captured some informal sectors and so no one can dispute your figures since we don't run your country for you. If you're in a fire burning and you tell people around you that you're okay, we can't force you because you feel what you feel alone.

Ghana can get up tomorrow and say out GDP is now 100 billion dollars and no one can dispute because the economic indicators used 5 years ago is different from now that's why most economies rebase almost every ten years.Nigeria got up one day and told us their GDP is no more 180 billion dollars buh it's now over 500 billion dollars in less than a year and we gave them largest economy in Africa.

You don't dispute any country's stats even if he's a dictator. Ghana invest billions of dollars in human development even more than business and infrastructure and that's our goal.Our aims is to make every citizen as comfortable as ever.And our small scale enterprises is the best and among the largest in West Africa thus millions of Nigerian traders venturing into our retail space upon all the attacks on their businesses in Ghana to leave.Our issue is too much taxes.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:32pm On Nov 14, 2019
So how was the day everyone?. . angry grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:35pm On Nov 14, 2019
rvp20182:
Why are Ghanian escaping Ghana like Nigerians? You only see such desperation in war torn countries. Examine their data closely.
Bro, I beg spare the Ghanaians please. smiley .They are our bros.!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 8:37pm On Nov 14, 2019
rvp20182:
Samrobo - This example of victorian design - Fairmont hotel mt kenya.

West African architects and builders have a long way to go...to get to world class standards.

Spend some time in this thread
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=469374&page=41

Colony....... cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by VicThory(m): 8:37pm On Nov 14, 2019
rvp20182:
I think Nakuru, Kisumu, Eldoret,Thika looks better than your cities. And we don't have minerals or that much arable land.


Picture pls and mind some cities i posted in not in top ten beautiful city in Nigeria.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:37pm On Nov 14, 2019
psychologygh:
we measure the 30% that we can formally calculate which lies in 70-80 billion dollars GDP,that's how our GDP keeps rebasing cos we are still widening our tax net and formal businesses for statistical and financial measurement purpose.

That's why we our purchasing power which can easily be measured hoovers more than 200 billion dollars buh our GDP norminal lingers around 70-80 billion dollars. Ghana had a GDP size of 47 billion dollars in 2012 which was more than the GDP of Kenya buh from nowhere, 2 years later just like magic,Kenya's GDP more than doubled due to this same rebasing.You claimed you had now captured some informal sectors and so no one can dispute your figures since we don't run your country for you. If you're in a fire burning and you tell people around you that you're okay, we can't force you because you feel what you feel alone.

Ghana can get up tomorrow and say out GDP is now 100 billion dollars and no one can dispute because the economic indicators used 5 years ago is different from now that's why most economies rebase almost every ten years.Nigeria got up one day and told us their GDP is no more 180 billion dollars buh it's now over 500 billion dollars in less than a year and we gave them largest economy in Africa.

You don't dispute any country's stats even if he's a dictator. Ghana invest billions of dollars in human development even more than business and infrastructure and that's our goal.Our aims is to make every citizen as comfortable as ever.And our small scale enterprises is the best and among the largest in West Africa thus millions of Nigerian traders venturing into our retail space upon all the attacks on their businesses in Ghana to leave.Our issue is too much taxes.
Informal sector is basically under radar..you cannot see it if you stick to emperical data collection.What you try to do is to formalize them..force them to register, have business license, have bank account, bank their money and pay some taxes or levies...but if I go to a slum..and throw a wild guestimate..how will that help.You get into fake 500b Nigeria problem with taxes of 5b if you remove oil .You can as well add Yahoo, marijuana, cocaine to your GDP.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:38pm On Nov 14, 2019
Rvp. .please everyone got some bones in the closet...let us not throw away everything out... grin
Ghana is one sober country surrounded by crazies...let's stop ths bant

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:40pm On Nov 14, 2019
mtisTheQubit:
Rvp. .please everyone got some bones in the closet...let us not throw away everything out... grin
Ghana is one sober country surrounded by crazies...let's stop ths bant
Nigeria is long buried.kamenyuria.Ghana can spice things up... otherwise debating Nigeria is like debating Tanzania..waste of time.Nigeria cannot even provide basic electricity to it's citizen.We should be learning from South Africa, Egypt and heck Rwanda

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:41pm On Nov 14, 2019
AskiaHarem:


Colony....... cool
Yap I looooze my colony...so nice an warm....
Hey AskiaHarem, have started the generator man grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:42pm On Nov 14, 2019
rvp20182:
Nigeria is long buried.kamenyuria.Ghana can spice things up... otherwise debating Nigeria is like debating Tanzania..waste if time.
Msee lega hii story..umewamaliza lakini grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obiano13: 8:42pm On Nov 14, 2019
vaxx2:
He wanted to know about Ghana thru iron hand ...w

Abeghy, you can tell a fool by the level of his confidence

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:43pm On Nov 14, 2019
mtisTheQubit:
Rvp. .please everyone got some bones in the closet...let us not throw away everything out... grin
Ghana is one sober country surrounded by crazies...let's stop ths bant
exactly. grin one sober country surrounded by zoos grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 8:45pm On Nov 14, 2019
Carmit:

Duuuuude...
You really are in need of attention.
Do you know these are psychopathic signs?.... Dude I'm serious.... Check in to your free Botswana health centre to get yourself checked..... Seriously...
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When I am not downloading that's why did kilobyte was very low. I forgot to tell you my internet has been upgraded to 50 mbps unlimited download. I will prove it to you below look at my Snapshots and look at the mbps. The only way to know the true mbps download a file for up to five minutes and see what the download speed is

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:46pm On Nov 14, 2019
mtisTheQubit:

Msee lega hii story..umewamaliza lakini grin
Sawa I will be off for like a week...so bye for now.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:47pm On Nov 14, 2019
rvp20182:
Sawa I will be off for like a week...so bye for now.
Sawa bro.. cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:51pm On Nov 14, 2019
rvp20182:
So we don't default and call IMF.US,China and Kenya are doing the same.These are no laughing matter... defauting like Ghana takes forever to fix.You seethe kind of mess you're..every 3yrs..same problems.You want to avoid the endless negative feedback loop like ghana
Ghana has ver defaulted on it debt ever


Kenya was defaulting on it Chinese debt such that China had to take over your port

that is a mess.

Ghana IMF visits goes with elections
thats to tell you that it is political than economics grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:52pm On Nov 14, 2019
rvp20182:
like seriously? Nigga.
mention the informal sectors in the Kenyan economy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 8:53pm On Nov 14, 2019
Kenyans and Ghanaian I have been very sorry I have not been there for you this week I have been very busy with harvesting crops. All so I have been battling with my Nigerian Brothers on more than 3 Trends on this nairaland forum I have dealt a big blow to my Nigerian brother

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:54pm On Nov 14, 2019
rvp20182:
Why are Ghanian escaping Ghana like Nigerians? You only see such desperation in war torn countries. Examine their data closely.
fact is Ghanaians are not escaping their country

Ghanaians are travellers we love to travel.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:56pm On Nov 14, 2019
Just30:
fact is Ghanaians are not escaping their country

Ghanaians are travellers we love to travel.
Man let it go..the bant is over...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:58pm On Nov 14, 2019
Just30:
Ghana has ver defaulted on it debt ever


Kenya was defaulting on it Chinese debt such that China had to take over your port

that is a mess.

Ghana IMF visits goes with elections
thats to tell you that it is political than economics grin grin
Such a liar. First you admitted to defauting in 90s. Kenya has no debt distress and Chinese are not taking our port.We signed 40% of all port cargo take or pay as way to collatorize our debt.We have like 10yrs grace period to start paying Chinese...so how can we default hahaha.Do some research.The rail will very likely pay for itself...5 yrs grace period on commercial loan and 10yrs on the concessionary loan...we will repay the loan in 30 or 50 yrs.Ethiopia got debt rescheduling..so long way before we default..we would ask for that first..like China man please reschedule our loan.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:59pm On Nov 14, 2019
Just30:
fact is Ghanaians are not escaping their country

Ghanaians are travellers we love to travel.
bro !!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obiano13: 9:02pm On Nov 14, 2019
SUFFERInSMILIIN:
Kenyans and Ghanaian I have been very sorry I have not been there for you this week I have been very busy with harvesting crops. All so I have been battling with my Nigerian Brothers on more than 3 Trends on this nairaland forum I have dealt a big blow to my Nigerian brother

I saw how you destroy the illiterates twin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:02pm On Nov 14, 2019
rvp20182:
Informal sector is basically under radar..you cannot see it if you stick to emperical data collection.What you try to do is to formalize them..force them to register, have business license, have bank account, bank their money and pay some taxes or levies...but if I go to a slum..and throw a wild guestimate..how will that help.You get into fake 500b Nigeria problem with taxes of 5b if you remove oil .You can as well add Yahoo, marijuana, cocaine to your GDP.
anyway, growing marijuana is not legal in Ghana
If it were, it would be a multi-billion dollars sector in Ghana because Ghana wee is the best in the world.

have a few Ghanaian citizens who came from the UK last 4 years just to come and lobby government to make it legal.
They have acquire huge farmlands the size of Nairobi and just waiting
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by psychologygh: 9:03pm On Nov 14, 2019
rvp20182:
Informal sector is basically under radar..you cannot see it if you stick to emperical data collection.What you try to do is to formalize them..force them to register, have business license, have bank account, bank their money and pay some taxes or levies...but if I go to a slum..and throw a wild guestimate..how will that help.You get into fake 500b Nigeria problem with taxes of 5b if you remove oil .You can as well add Yahoo, marijuana, cocaine to your GDP.
hahaha,very funny,you speak soo easily as if you just get up and register informal businesses. Tell me,how many Kenyans register their businesses and pay the regular taxes.What special incentive and formal process is provided by the Kenyan government that Ghana cannot provide.In fact,what's the literacy rate in Kenya.Let me begin from there.Do you know that more than 50%sole proprietorship businesses even in Nairobi is not registered or captured formally captured.That Mpesa mobile money even breeds informal sectors and makes their businesses more easy without registering formally at banks.Not even South Africa can boast of 50% formalized economy. This is Africa.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:06pm On Nov 14, 2019
Just30:
anyway, growing marijuana is not legal in Ghana
If it were, it would be a multi-billion dollars sector in Ghana because Ghana wee is the best in the world.

have a few Ghanaian citizens who came from the UK last 4 years just to come and lobby government to make it legal.
They have acquire huge farmlands the size of Nairobi and just waiting
I like weed . don't smoke except occasional weed that I roll myself..but I am sure gov cannot count the 50 dollars I spend on it occasionally..the guy has to clean his money
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:11pm On Nov 14, 2019
psychologygh:
hahaha,very funny,you speak soo easily as if you just get up and register informal businesses. Tell me,how many Kenyans register their businesses and pay the regular taxes.What special incentive and formal process is provided by the Kenyan government that Ghana cannot provide.In fact,what's the literacy rate in Kenya.Let me begin from there.Do you know that more than 50%sole proprietorship businesses even in Nairobi is not registered or captured formally captured.That Mpesa mobile money even breeds informal sectors and makes their businesses more easy without registering formally at banks.Not even South Africa can boast of 50% formalized economy. This is Africa.
Tell you country mate just30 who thought Kenya has no informal sector.We should attempt to formalize them..for their own good mostly..and Mobile Money is helping .We cannot take guesswork to the mathematics of calculating GDP.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by psychologygh: 9:19pm On Nov 14, 2019
rvp20182:
Tell you country mate just30 who thought Kenya has no informal sector.We should attempt to formalize them..for their own good mostly..and Mobile Money is helping .We cannot take guesswork to the mathematics of calculating GDP.
mobile money doesn't formalize anything in fact it breeds more informal businesses than ever.We have it in Ghana and is nationwide also.You can't formalize your economy without educating your people.The secret is education. Educate your population and let them know why they should formally register their enterprises, reduce the long hurdles and requirements needed for a business registration,give them the advantages of going formal and positive security implications on their businesses which can last for generations without outside hindrance,make technology easily accessible .Kenya and Ghana fails mostly in this region thus our name "Developing Economy ".You don't go round with officials carrying books and pens to register their businesses which majority of them will even fail the criteria to be registered.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:22pm On Nov 14, 2019
tylann:


i watched the interview to
michael joseph said he needs ksh 45 billion to turn things around

and jkia needs an upgrade urgently
You awake from slumber?! Jkia need what? Upgrade!
Hohohoho
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 9:25pm On Nov 14, 2019
Kazikazi:
You awake from slumber?! Jkia need what? Upgrade!
Hohohoho


yes an upgrade

i wonder what is amusing you
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:26pm On Nov 14, 2019
rvp20182:
Why are Ghanian escaping Ghana like Nigerians? You only see such desperation in war torn countries. Examine their data closely.
The day I saw Accra I doubted their economic numbers.No way.You can't have a very good performing economy without having a change in physical form.no such a thing.A good economy will consume more cement,but I can't understand where is that cement end up in Accra!

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