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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by CTPlayer: 5:35pm On Nov 15, 2019
Blackfriday:
I believe the word quid quo pro means..... Giving/getting something, in return for something ( usually negative), which in our local parlance means..... Scratch my back, I scratch your back... Don't this conote bribery/corruption?.

Biden/Archer were paid about 3.5 million by the energy company, and in essence were lobbying the USA government to end investigation into the energy company. Reporter John Solomon secured emails using the FOIA detailing what happened. Someone here posted links to this.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Blackfriday: 6:49pm On Nov 15, 2019
CTPlayer:


Biden/Archer were paid about 3.5 million by the energy company, and in essence were lobbying the USA government to end investigation into the energy company. Reporter John Solomon secured emails using the FOIA detailing what happened. Someone here posted links to this.
The question is, was there quid pro quo in the conversation between Trump and Ukraine's president?.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by CTPlayer: 6:55pm On Nov 15, 2019
Blackfriday:
The question is, was there quid pro quo in the conversation between Trump and Ukraine's president?.
Not from what I read in the 2 transcripts. All politics is quid pro quo, like foreign aid. We give $$$ to Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, Israel and then they use that money to buy USA manufactured military weapons systems. Trump said early on give me money to build a wall and I will work with you on DACA. Dems said no and Trump EO'ed DACA.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 10:46pm On Nov 15, 2019
CTPlayer:
Not from what I read in the 2 transcripts. All politics is quid pro quo, like foreign aid. We give $$$ to Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, Israel and then they use that money to buy USA manufactured military weapons systems. Trump said early on give me money to build a wall and I will work with you on DACA. Dems said no and Trump EO'ed DACA.

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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 10:50pm On Nov 15, 2019
Blackfriday:
The question is, was there quid pro quo in the conversation between Trump and Ukraine's president?.

It's very difficult for them to answer, even when officials who have spent all their lives in public service (longer before these online muscles were ever given birth to) speak on the record about trumps "deep state" unofficial arm wringling using Rudy and the ukrainian idiots. Thats why they are all running away from these hearings because they can't keep on smearing non partisan career people without people smelling their bullshytt.
officials in the trump admin are speaking under OATH. i wonder why these trump supporters are so dense

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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by CTPlayer: 10:50pm On Nov 15, 2019
babaearly1:



Like I said before if you want to put political opponents in jail for process crimes, lying etc., enjoy that government.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 11:01pm On Nov 15, 2019
CTPlayer:


Like I said before if you want to put political opponents in jail for process crimes, lying etc., enjoy that government.

are you shooting yourself in the foot, coz i don't get you?
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 11:03pm On Nov 15, 2019
I've noticed this has been republican talking points so far

Basement
Whistleblower
Deep state
Obama
Steele Dossier
Hunter Biden
Fourth Hand
Naked Pictures of Trump

... and not even one substance to push back against the testimonies so far

What a shame non of them can actually put up a strong objective defense for trump

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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 11:12pm On Nov 15, 2019
CTPlayer:


Like I said before if you want to put political opponents in jail for process crimes, lying etc., enjoy that government.

Why would anyone think Trump is involved in crimes just bc his lawyer Michael Cohen is in prison, his BFF Roger Stone was convicted of 7 felonies, his campaign manager is in jail, plus his asst campaign manager and former Nat Sec advisor are going to jail?! i wonder...

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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Thegamingorca(m): 11:21pm On Nov 15, 2019
babaearly1:
I've noticed this has been republican talking points so far

Basement
Whistleblower
Deep state
Obama
Steele Dossier
Hunter Biden
Fourth Hand
Naked Pictures of Trump

... and not even one substance to push back against the testimonies so far

What a shame non of them can actually put up a strong objective defense for trump


There is no significant offensive as well...and the fact that Schiff refuses to let even unrecognized republican congress members speak will be the democrats undoing.
Every witness deyve brought so far had 4th hand information.

This is the president of the United States and you are charging for bribery lol what happened to the extortion or quidproquo

When that came up I was just confused how, when? It wasn't until Schiff said dey will now build a new case around witness intimidation that I realized the donkeys have nothing infact dey are grasping at straws.

Look if this hearing remains like this and sondlsnd and vulkner don't squeal then I'm sorry.

This is the Potus and he ain't going nowhere

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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by budaatum: 11:29pm On Nov 15, 2019
babaearly1:
I've noticed this has been republican talking points so far

Basement
Whistleblower
Deep state
Obama
Steele Dossier
Hunter Biden
Fourth Hand
Naked Pictures of Trump

... and not even one substance to push back against the testimonies so far

What a shame non of them can actually put up a strong objective defense for trump
It might be hard, if not almost impossible to "push back" with "objective defense" that doesn't exist.

Trump, as usual, shoots with an air gun!.

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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by budaatum: 11:33pm On Nov 15, 2019
Thegamingorca:



There is no significant offensive as well...and the fact that Schiff refuses to let even unrecognized republican congress members speak will be the democrats undoing.
Every witness deyve brought so far had 4th hand information.

This is the president of the United States and you are charging for bribery lol what happened to the extortion or quidproquo

When that came up I was just confused how, when? It wasn't until Schiff said dey will now build a new case around witness intimidation that I realized the donkeys have nothing infact dey are grasping at straws.

Look if this hearing remains like this and sondlsnd and vulkner don't squeal then I'm sorry.

This is the Potus and he ain't going nowhere
It's beautiful! We being schooled about Power.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by CTPlayer: 11:33pm On Nov 15, 2019
babaearly1:


Why would anyone think Trump is involved in crimes just bc his lawyer Michael Cohen is in prison, his BFF Roger Stone was convicted of 7 felonies, his campaign manager is in jail, plus his asst campaign manager and former Nat Sec advisor are going to jail?! i wonder...
Flynn was a holdover and got set up by the FBI. Stone same deal regarding the witch hunt. Trump had like 4 campaign managers. Manafort has been around forever. The Deep Staters are next up.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 11:34pm On Nov 15, 2019
Thegamingorca:



There is no significant offensive as well...and the fact that Schiff refuses to let even unrecognized republican congress members speak will be the democrats undoing.

dead on arrival. The rules were set up by republicans. holding on straws that will die in the next news cycle is not a good strategy

Thegamingorca:


Every witness deyve brought so far had 4th hand information.


So because it's hearsay you will discount the testimony of decades long career people who are not partisan in any way, and have served under republican and democrat president. make una get sense na
Well another witness will come up who heard trump well on the phone with sondlandand a 2nd official has claimed he heard it too..i mean the quid

Thegamingorca:


Look if this hearing remains like this and sondlsnd and vulkner don't squeal then I'm sorry.

[s]This is the Potus and he ain't going nowhere[/s]

Trump's EU envoy admits Ukraine quid pro quo in updated testimony
Gordon Sondland says he told Ukraine it was unlikely to get $400m in aid unless it announced investigations into Trump rivals
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/05/trump-impeachment-sondland-ukraine-quid-pro-quo-latest

sorry bro, sondland will not want to commit perjury in public, remember stone just got slapped with jail time prospect for doing just that
So sondland and volker will not say a different thing than their testimony under oath

and that one... yawns

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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 11:40pm On Nov 15, 2019
CTPlayer:
Flynn was a holdover and got set up by the FBI. Stone same deal regarding the witch hunt. Trump had like 4 campaign managers. Manafort has been around forever. The Deep Staters are next up.

please this is just too stale. Don't be deceived by qanon, i was about to be roped when Obama was president believing all these conspiracy nonsense. But it's just too fake. And whats surprising is that you with no knowledge of how the US foreign policy work talk about deep state, why don't you listen to the testimonies of these officials under oath and determine who really runs the deep state? isn't it surprising the irony, Rudy subverting career officials to further trumps PERSONAL bargain? Dense

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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 11:42pm On Nov 15, 2019
budaatum:

It might be hard, if not almost impossible to "push back" with "objective defense" that doesn't exist.

Trump, as usual, shoots with an air gun!.

1000% spot on.. this is a cult of trump not a political movement
and i'm afraid for the souls of his followers..

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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Thegamingorca(m): 11:57pm On Nov 15, 2019
All I can say tho is that if dey fail to impeach him he is going to run another 4yrs

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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by feedthenation(m): 12:56am On Nov 16, 2019
CTPlayer:
Flynn was a holdover and got set up by the FBI. Stone same deal regarding the witch hunt. Trump had like 4 campaign managers. Manafort has been around forever. The Deep Staters are next up.

You are a joker. How was Mike Flynn a holdover from Obama administration?

He was fired from his post as the Director of Defence Intelligence Agency in 2014. After that He was a senior advisor to Trump on National Security issues during the presidential elections in 2016.

Stop putting forward false information in a public forum.

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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by CTPlayer: 3:25am On Nov 16, 2019
feedthenation:


You are a joker. How was Mike Flynn a holdover from Obama administration?

He was fired from his post as the Director of Defence Intelligence Agency in 2014. After that He was a senior advisor to Trump on National Security issues during the presidential elections in 2016.

Stop putting forward false information in a public forum.
Flynn will never serve a day in jail.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by hotwax: 2:41pm On Nov 16, 2019
My muslim brothers back to ur basements...democrats don't have a candidate strong enough to beat trump come next election..impeachment is their only hope.

Howver the impeachment hearing is based on I heard I heard. No prove..no record any where.

White house released the call recording to the public, Democrat modified it to their own narative.

It's a show of shame and a bad precedent for future American presidents.

As it is now, no tangible reason to impeach...

Republicans owns senate and they are solidly behind trump...

Mittromney and 2 other republican hacks can't hurt Trump.

Next election is going to be a landlside..democrats know it.

Russia gate collapsed...remember
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by hotwax: 2:47pm On Nov 16, 2019
babaearly1:


please this is just too stale. Don't be deceived by qanon, i was about to be roped when Obama was president believing all these conspiracy nonsense. But it's just too fake. And whats surprising is that you with no knowledge of how the US foreign policy work talk about deep state, why don't you listen to the testimonies of these officials under oath and determine who really runs the deep state? isn't it surprising the irony, Rudy subverting career officials to further trumps PERSONAL bargain? Dense

The deep state are those people who obtain fake fisa warrant to be spy on trump campaign...they plant anti Trump wakos in trump cabinet.

They are looking for trump sex videos everywhere...

Rudiguliani is trump Attorney who understand the dirty politics and is ready play them...

You can't be a nice guy to fight the deep state..they fight dirty...

For example, I saw a CNN headline saying "Trump sex video may have been found". I can assure you if Obama sex video is released CNN won't cover it.

That's deep states in action..get that in ur head
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 3:14pm On Nov 16, 2019
hotwax:


The deep state are those people who obtain fake fisa warrant to be spy on trump campaign...they plant anti Trump wakos in trump cabinet.

They are looking for trump sex videos everywhere...

Rudiguliani is trump Attorney who understand the dirty politics and is ready play them...

You can't be a nice guy to fight the deep state..they fight dirty...

For example, I saw a CNN headline saying "Trump sex video may have been found". I can assure you if Obama sex video is released CNN won't cover it.

That's deep states in action..get that in ur head

you sound incoherent.. and when and where did you see that fake news headline? lipsrsealed

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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 4:25pm On Nov 20, 2019
BREAKING : Ambassador Sondland throws Trump and his entire cabinet under the bus..oh...he is riding over them grin
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by budaatum: 8:18pm On Nov 20, 2019
Can anyone imagine some state department listening to President Buhari's phonecalls?
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by budaatum: 8:23pm On Nov 20, 2019
babaearly1:


please this is just too stale. Don't be deceived by qanon, i was about to be roped when Obama was president believing all these conspiracy nonsense. But it's just too fake. And whats surprising is that you with no knowledge of how the US foreign policy work talk about deep state, why don't you listen to the testimonies of these officials under oath and determine who really runs the deep state? isn't it surprising the irony, Rudy subverting career officials to further trumps PERSONAL bargain? Dense
Not everyone learns from their experiences like you do. That's why this impeachment is good, pass or fail. People who learn from their experiences will learn valuable skills for the future. You are the sort of person I hope.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Jimi24: 8:33pm On Nov 20, 2019
CTPlayer:
Not from what I read in the 2 transcripts. All politics is quid pro quo, like foreign aid. We give $$$ to Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, Israel and then they use that money to buy USA manufactured military weapons systems. Trump said early on give me money to build a wall and I will work with you on DACA. Dems said no and Trump EO'ed DACA.

You cannot be a personal beneficiary of a quid pro quo whilst in govt service. You cannot do it for personal monetary gain AND most especially for personal political gain (POWER) just because you are occupying the office of President.

To make matters worse, the aid Trump was threatening was not economic aid but security aid required for Ukraine to defend itself from Russia.

This orange buffoon will resign. I dont think he will wait to be impeached

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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by budaatum: 9:40pm On Nov 20, 2019
Jimi24:


You cannot be a personal beneficiary of a quid pro quo whilst in govt service. You cannot do it for personal monetary gain AND most especially for personal political gain (POWER) just because you are occupying the office of President.

To make matters worse, the aid Trump was threatening was not economic aid but security aid required for Ukraine to defend itself from Russia.

This orange buffoon will resign. I dont think he will wait to be impeached
He is too orange headed to resign. He's more likely to create more division than has been seen in America since the Civil Rights if nor the War.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by doitforyou(f): 11:36pm On Nov 20, 2019
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by doitforyou(f): 11:51pm On Nov 20, 2019
Thegamingorca:
All I can say tho is that if dey fail to impeach him he is going to run another 4yrs

I don’t think he’ll be impeached either. Republicans control the senate and senate Republicans are scared of their base who are overwhelmingly Trump supporters. The rep might vote to impeach but it is DOA at the senate ala Bill Clinton. However, Trump is definitely going in November. Dems are numerically more than Republicans but Dems don’t vote. However, Trump is a rallying cry for the Dem base.

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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by doitforyou(f): 6:34am On Nov 21, 2019
feedthenation:


You are a joker. How was Mike Flynn a holdover from Obama administration?

He was fired from his post as the Director of Defence Intelligence Agency in 2014. After that He was a senior advisor to Trump on National Security issues during the presidential elections in 2016.

Stop putting forward false information in a public forum.
You forgot to add Obama warned and recommended to Trump not to appoint Flynn.

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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:54am On Nov 21, 2019
CTPlayer:
Flynn will never serve a day in jail.

He called you out for putting out fake news, and you deflect like classic trump. So clear to see that narcist trait

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Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 7:17am On Nov 21, 2019
doitforyou:


I don’t think he’ll be impeached either. Republicans control the senate and senate Republicans are scared of their base who are overwhelmingly Trump supporters. The rep might vote to impeach but it is DOA at the senate ala Bill Clinton. However, Trump is definitely going in November. Dems are numerically more than Republicans but Dems don’t vote. However, Trump is a rallying cry for the Dem base.

Even if their politics is polarized, people can really see what crimes are, bribery in this case was so clear. The senate will go into secret ballot and 33 senate republicans will vote with Democrats to remove trump. Mark it down

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