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chewwie:
Who is a whistleblower? You can't be a whistleblower, by law, if you aren't a firsthand witness to the crime you're reporting. It's like me hearing from Osinbajo's aide that Buhari stole money from Ministry Of Petroleum and going to report to NASS and expecting to be called a whistleblower, it doesn't work that way.
Again, have you read the transcript of the call between Trump and Zelensky? It was a perfect call. If there was damning evidence of impeachable offenses in the call, Trump wouldn't have released it to the public? How transparent can a man be?
Don't be silly, hermano. CNN and TYT are fake news outlets. Ana Kasparian shed tears when Trump won in 2016, Cenk often resorts to ad hominems when he's losing in debates and why don't they ever bring on conservatives and go to speak in public like conservative speakers do? The main fake news peddlers in CNN are Don Lemon, Chris Fredo Cuomo, Rosemary Church, Hala Gorani, Brian Stelter. While TYT is just despicable. I'm guessing you missed what Hasan Piker (Cenk's nephew) said about Dan Crenshaw's eye and 9/11.

Yes, your analogy about osinbsjo and buhari qualifies you as a whistle blower under the whistle blower protection status. All NASS needs to do is corroborate your claims before taking action and that amigo is what Congress is doing at the moment. It's an impeachment enquiry. You really are steeped in Trump stew, but you still sound smart. Do you know Cenk was once a Republican before switching to being a Progressive Democrat? By the way, he is running for California Congress in 2020. Do you also know Trump was a Democrat?

chewwie:
Those countries you mentioned aren't socialist, they're mixed market. This is SS1 stuff. And the number problem with MediCare for all, free education at all levels, etc. is this: How do they intend to pay for them? At least Sanders has admitted that not only would he impose a WEALTH (not income) tax on the rich, middle class taxes would also go up, but costs of things would come down. While Warren is yet to tell the American people how she intends to finance it. Running Medicare for all would cost $34trn yearly. Forgiving student loan debts would cost $40 or so trillion. AOC's Green New deal would cost $94trn, where would they get this money? Note that the country is already in a debt of $22trn. Did you see the outcome of ObamaCare? Quality of healthcare dropped, prices of healthcare increased, doctors and patients hated it.
And I don't even have sub to make searches on Google :-(

Lol.. Yes they are not socialist countries, but they have socialist healthcare systems. It's a Republican talking point to scream socialism and make people vote for what they don't want. Obamacare despite it's flaws enrolled an additional 20 million Americans into health insurance. Some racist Americans hate the scheme because of the name obamacare, If you call it the affordable care act, they will tell you they love it. Have you seen America's defence budget? How do they pay for their military? If you understand the workings of corporate corruption in America, then you will know that talking point of where will the money come from, is just BS.

hermesprogidy:
Google is still functional.

The onus is on u to prove that American elections have been rigged n confirmed 100%.

If u can't, then u are spreading fake news

chewwie:
Those countries you mentioned aren't socialist, they're mixed market. This is SS1 stuff. And the number problem with MediCare for all, free education at all levels, etc. is this: How do they intend to pay for them? At least Sanders has admitted that not only would he impose a WEALTH (not income) tax on the rich, middle class taxes would also go up, but costs of things would come down. While Warren is yet to tell the American people how she intends to finance it. Running Medicare for all would cost $34trn yearly. Forgiving student loan debts would cost $40 or so trillion. AOC's Green New deal would cost $94trn, where would they get this money? Note that the country is already in a debt of $22trn. Did you see the outcome of ObamaCare? Quality of healthcare dropped, prices of healthcare increased, doctors and patients hated it.
And I don't even have sub to make searches on Google :-(

Oga where do u get ur figures from? 34 trillion for Medicare for all yearly?

Forgiving all students loan costing 40 trillion?

Bros take am easy and correct ur figures pls

PrecisionFx:
Oga where do u get ur figures from? 34 trillion for Medicare for all yearly?
Forgiving all students loan costing 40 trillion?
Bros take am easy and correct ur figures pls

Please follow the debates, I don't have time for this

hermesprogidy:
Lol.. Yes they are not socialist countries, but they have socialist healthcare systems. It's a Republican talking point to scream socialism and make people vote for what they don't want. Obamacare despite it's flaws enrolled an additional 20 million Americans into health insurance. Some racist Americans hate the scheme because of the name obamacare, If you call it the affordable care act, they will tell you they love it. Have you seen America's defence budget? How do they pay for their military? If you understand the workings of corporate corruption in America, then you will know that talking point of where will the money come from, is just BS.

There was no upside to Obamacare, even black people hated it

hermesprogidy:
Yes, your analogy about osinbsjo and buhari qualifies you as a whistle blower under the whistle blower protection status. All NASS needs to do is corroborate your claims before taking action and that amigo is what Congress is doing at the moment. It's an impeachment enquiry. You really are steeped in Trump stew, but you still sound smart. Do you know Cenk was once a Republican before switching to being a Progressive Democrat? By the way, he is running for California Congress in 2020. Do you also know Trump was a Democrat?

1. He said there was evidence of a quid pro quo in the call. How could that have been possible when the quo (withheld aid) wasn't even brought up in the call? President Zelensky didn't know about the aid until September.
2. Democrats and their media mob especially low rating CNN said Trump asked Zelensky to "dig up dirt" on Joe Biden and that is an impeachable offense because he's in the running for the Democratic nomination.
a. Both Trump and Zelensky ran on ending corruption and there were elements of corruption in Biden's dealings in Ukraine, him running for the Democratic nomination doesn't make him above the law.
b. Clinton's campaign asked Ukraine and Russian officials to dig up dirt on Trump in 2016.
c. Adam Schiff made contact with Russian pranksters thinking they were Ukrainian officials asking for Trump's nudes. Why wasn't he impeached?
3. The "withheld" aid was released 3 weeks before the deadline and Zelensky didn't open an investigation into the Bidens, so where's the quid?
4. The only crime there was Biden demanding the Ukrainian prosecutor be fired before giving them $1bn in aid when there was a conflict of interest, i.e., the prosecutor in question was investigating Hunter Biden and Burisma Holdings.

Yes, Cenk Uygur will most definitely win in California, liberals never learn. Years of Democrat rule and Chicago, California and Baltimore are still shite. If AOC could win in New York, Ilhan "Some People Did Something" Omar in Minnesota, I'll be surprised if Cenk doesn't win in California

chewwie:
1. He said there was evidence of a quid pro quo in the call. How could that have been possible when the quo (withheld aid) wasn't even brought up in the call? President Zelensky didn't know about the aid until September.
2. Democrats and their media mob especially low rating CNN said Trump asked Zelensky to "dig up dirt" on Joe Biden and that is an impeachable offense because he's in the running for the Democratic nomination.
a. Both Trump and Zelensky ran on ending corruption and there were elements of corruption in Biden's dealings in Ukraine, him running for the Democratic nomination doesn't make him above the law.
b. Clinton's campaign asked Ukraine and Russian officials to dig up dirt on Trump in 2016.
c. Adam Schiff made contact with Russian pranksters thinking they were Ukrainian officials asking for Trump's nudes. Why wasn't he impeached?
3. The "withheld" aid was released 3 weeks before the deadline and Zelensky didn't open an investigation into the Bidens, so where's the quid?
4. The only crime there was Biden demanding the Ukrainian prosecutor be fired before giving them $1bn in aid when there was a conflict of interest, i.e., the prosecutor in question was investigating Hunter Biden and Burisma Holdings.

Yes, Cenk Uygur will most definitely win in California, liberals never learn. Years of Democrat rule and Chicago, California and Baltimore are still shite. If AOC could win in New York, Ilhan "Some People Did Something" Omar in Minnesota, I'll be surprised if Cenk doesn't win in California

I am not going into the hoodoo conspiracies you posted here, it's exhausting. I deal in facts, not hear say. Congress approved the aid in February, why did Trump withhold it for 7 months? Why did they release the aid only after the whistle blower spoke out? Zelensky knew the aid was held up because they needed those Javelins to fight the Russians and were not getting it. Mind you, there was no "deadline" to releasing the aid. You release aid, once Congress approves.
Tbh, you sound confused. Cenk is a liberal. California is the richest State in the U.S and you call it shit? Have you ever been to Carli? The poorest States in the US are Republican strongholds. Shitholes like Mississippi, Alabama, Missouri etc. Enjoy the hearing.

chewwie:
There was no upside to Obamacare, even black people hated it

Seriously! This post just proves you know nothing on the subject matter. You are just gas lighting, I rest my case.

PrecisionFx:
The onus is on u to prove that American elections have been rigged n confirmed 100%.

If u can't, then u are spreading fake news

It's not fake news, the fact that you don't know something doesn't make it fake news. It's an open secret that election was rigged in favour of Bush. I personally followed that election. Like I advised, Google it, unjustified arrogance is not a good thing.

hermesprogidy:
I am not going into the hoodoo conspiracies you posted here, it's exhausting. I deal in facts, not hear say. Congress approved the aid in February, why did Trump withhold it for 7 months? Why did they release the aid only after the whistle blower spoke out? Zelensky knew the aid was held up because they needed those Javelins to
l fight the Russians and were not getting it. Mind you, there was no "deadline" to releasing the aid. You release aid, once Congress approves.
Tbh, you sound confused. Cenk is a liberal. California is the richest State in the U.S and you call it shit? Have you ever been to Carli? The poorest States in the US are Republican strongholds. Shitholes like Mississippi, Alabama, Missouri etc. Enjoy the hearing.

When it's against the Dems it's conspiracy theories � Good one.
Zelensky didn't know about the aid until early September. And the deadline was Sept 30, the aid was released on the 11th or so. Trump didn't release the aid to the previous government because of the change about to occur due to an election and corruption allegations.
Yes, Cenk is a liberal hack, it's hard not to notice. California, like Lagos, is the richest state in the USA, but like some parts of Lagos, some parts f California (downtown LA to be precise) is a mess thanks to years and years of Democratic rule, illegal immigration of unskilled immigrants and criminals. All you see in downtown LA are tents on the sidewalks occupied by homeless people because housing is too expensive thanks to policies by the Democrats. Needles all over the place used by homeless drug addicts. Poop all over the place. Don't deny this, even Democrat supporters acknowledge that. Remember when Trump said Baltimore is crime and rodent infested and he was called racist? Turns out it was true and Joe Biden, while on a visit to Baltimore during his VP years said it looked like a 3rd world country

chewwie:
When it's against the Dems it's conspiracy theories � Good one.
Zelensky didn't know about the aid until early September. And the deadline was Sept 30, the aid was released on the 11th or so. Trump didn't release the aid to the previous government because of the change about to occur due to an election and corruption allegations.
Yes, Cenk is a liberal hack, it's hard not to notice. California, like Lagos, is the richest state in the USA, but like some parts of Lagos, some parts f California (downtown LA to be precise) is a mess thanks to years and years of Democratic rule, illegal immigration of unskilled immigrants and criminals. All you see in downtown LA are tents on the sidewalks occupied by homeless people because housing is too expensive thanks to policies by the Democrats. Needles all over the place used by homeless drug addicts. Poop all over the place. Don't deny this, even Democrat supporters acknowledge that. Remember when Trump said Baltimore is crime and rodent infested and he was called racist? Turns out it was true and Joe Biden, while on a visit to Baltimore during his VP years said it looked like a 3rd world country

What you have described is the entire US, with the exception of Alaska.

hermesprogidy:
What you have described is the entire US, with the exception of Alaska.

The homelessness in LA is by far the worst in the USA and probably in the first world.
Then there's dirty Baltimore, and crime filled Chicago, which has the strictest gun laws in the country, but has the highest rate of gun violence in the country. Liberal Democrat policies aren't working especially in the black community.
To be honest, it's been nice interacting with you, you're the first Nigerian liberal I've encountered on the internet

hermesprogidy:
It's not fake news, the fact that you don't know something doesn't make it fake news. It's an open secret that election was rigged in favour of Bush. I personally followed that election. Like I advised, Google it, unjustified arrogance is not a good thing.

""Google it, unjustified arrogance is not a good thing""


Stop enforcing ignorance on ur self. I repeat again, The onus is on u to provide proof, even the slimmest of proofs is okay to back up ur claims that elections in the United States of America are rigged.




""the fact that you don't know something doesn't make it fake news""


I've also followed American elections closely since year 2000 and till date their elections have never ever been reported anywhere as rigged, rather their elections can be *influenced* Not rigged...Not rigged...Not rigged.

""It's an open secret that election was rigged in favour of Bush.""


Trump was an outsider and won against a known insider who comes from the most powerful bloodline in America and yet the American cabal couldn't rig hilary Clinton to power...









Have u ever seen an eelction tribunal in America

hermesprogidy:
Do you know Cenk was once a Republican before switching to being a Progressive Democrat? By the way, he is running for California Congress in 2020. Do you also know Trump was a Democrat?

Not only did Cenk lose the primaries, the woman he lost to went ahead to lose to GOP's Mike in #CA25 Sorry lol

hermesprogidy:
Cenk is a liberal.

couldn't even win the primaries