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Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by chewwie(m): 2:26pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
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Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by chewwie(m): 2:28pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
JOHNSONSOLAFUNMI:Shifty Schiff himself should testify. This new wave of progressive Democrats (AOC, Tlaib, Omar, Warren, etc.) want a socialist USA. And they have refused to take a cue from the defunct USSR, from crumbling Venezuela and oppressive China |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by kobosmart(m): 2:45pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
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Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by linearity: 4:11pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
chewwie: That was hilarious! Roger Stone's Attorney selected 'Left leaning jurors'?.......All 12 Jurors are left leaning, do you know how jurors are chosen in the USA? They are chosen randomly from the citizens in that area and this is the second random set of chosen jurors that have voted him to be guilty, first was the grand jurors who returned the indictments and they voted to indict him; I guess these were 'left leaning too'? Then the trial jurors, return a unanimous vote to convict him, not just on one count, but on all counts. Given the high polarization of the political climate in the USA now, which is somehow divided almost 50-50, in any random sample of 12 US citizen, it is almost impossible not to see at least one Trump supporter or a Republican, which means this guy have everything riding in hist favor not to be found guilty, as he only need one Juror to vote NO! but that did not happen. Common sense will tell you that, this guy is guilty as sin... 1 Like |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by Legendguru: 4:41pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
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Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by hermesprogidy(m): 4:41pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
JOHNSONSOLAFUNMI: It's not the former ambassador's job to determine impeachment, it's the job of Congress, that question is a trap to anybody testifying, because impeachment is a political process, any testifiers that answers yes to that question simply puts him/herself in a difficult situation. The smart answer is to deflect the question. The Republicans asking about the identity of the whistle blower just smirks of desperation. Firstly any whistle blower's anonymity is backed by law I.e the Whistle blower protection status. Secondly, the whistle blowers report has been corroborated by several people, including Trump himself, so why asking for the whistle blower? It makes no sense. Only God knows what will happen in 2020, put if you have been paying attention, then you would have heard that Republicans just lost seats and a Governorship position in States that were traditionally strongholds. I.e Kentucky and Virginia. In fact, Trump personally campaigned for the Governor of Kentucky vigorously, but still lost. These are not good signs for 2020 for Trump. |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by hermesprogidy(m): 4:53pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
chewwie:Do you even know the meaning of Socialism? You people just parrot Foxnews talking points. Don't confuse socialism with communism, besides, who told you China is socialist? Many dumb American shouting socialism, don't even know the meaning. Let me even assume you know the meaning and ask you the following questions. Is it the American army, police, civil service, and fire service private or government owned? Second question, Trump just bailed out US farmers with 10 billion dollars due to the trade war with China. Is that a Socialist or Capitalist move? |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by hermesprogidy(m): 4:59pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
PrecisionFx: Algore vs Bush was rigged. Deb Bush, the then governor of Florida, technically rigged the Florida counts in favour of his brother. It was later found that Algore won Florida, but by then it was already too late, because George Bush had already been announced as President. |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by hermesprogidy(m): 5:00pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
Kanade21: Very sound analysis. |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by JOHNSONSOLAFUNMI(m): 5:28pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
hermesprogidy: The 3 witnesses didn't deflect, they all answer in affirmative NO, you can watch the videos on IG @unfilteredpolitics, blazeTV The whistle blower is the primary witness, and the transcript released by trump is different from Schiff account, every witness said everything they are sung is from hearsay Kentucky is not a Republican stronghold, and there are have been only 3 Republicans governor since 2nd world war in Kentucky, the governor elect is not new to Kentucky politics because he's the attorney general of Kentucky and a son of former governor. A black man from the Republican party won the AG position so that's a plus for them, Virginia is not a Republican stronghold because she has never voted a Republican president to power since 2004 election 1 Like
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Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by bewitching: 6:26pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
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Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by Spechialone(f): 7:51pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
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Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by chewwie(m): 8:21pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
hermesprogidy:Look at this one! � What is the difference between socialism and communism? Okay, look at socialist Venezuela and look at communist China, same shit different continents. You bringing up the military, police, civil service, etc. just highlights your gross lack of intelligence. What is the primary purpose of a government? Yes, to SERVE AND PROTECT! And there are private fire services in the first world. Government providing financial assistance to afflicted citizens isn't socialism. Let me help you, in a socialist government, the government is in charge of ALL MEANS OF PRODUCTION. Trump bailing out farmers wasn't a socialist move, it'd even go out of my way and call it a capitalist move because by bailing out private farmers, he's fostering private production and free market |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by chewwie(m): 8:32pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
hermesprogidy:1. The whistleblower is not really a whistleblower because it's 2nd and 3rd hand info. 2. The whistleblower protection status doesn't protect the whistleblower's anonymity, it protects him/her from being fired from his/her job, but that doesn't even matter in this case because he/she is not a whistleblower. 3. The whistleblower said the call was a matter of national security and very urgent. Have you read the transcript? It's a hoax! And that's why the non-whistleblower whistleblower should be brought to Congress to testify and why is it that only Adam Schiff's office has access to this whistleblower? He started this whole circus, he and his informant should be charged with treason for spying on the president. 4. Who and who have corroborated the whistleblower's concerns raised in report? There's no quid pro quo that's why the Democrats and their media mob are now moving towards accusing Trump of bribery and extortion. They're going about this impeachment hearing hoping to find an impeachable offense along the way, because as it stands, they have NOTHING against Mr Trump! 5. Kentucky isn't a must win state for the Republicans, Trump won it in 2016, but he needs Florida, Wisconsin and Michigan. "Nobody cares about Kentucky" not my words, CNN and Cenk Uygur from The Young Turks said so |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by chewwie(m): 8:40pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
JOHNSONSOLAFUNMI:I love Blaze TV, watch Daily Wire too. And try to watch Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingrham on Fox News' YouTube channel. Shifty Schiff made up his own version of the call. "I'm only going to say this 7 times so listen carefully" and Nervous Nancy believed him because she hadn't read the transcript at the time. They opened an impeachment inquiry even before they got any evidence. They might well impeach President Zelensky as well because he has told the press on every continent that there was no quid pro quo (the aid wasn't even brought up in the call, he didn't even know that he would be given aid), he's said there was no pressure to investigate crazy sleepy creepy uncle Joe Biden 30330 and his zero experience son Hunter, he said there was no bribery and extortion. The Do Nothing Democrats should go and do something for the people they came to represent and stop this nonsense |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by chewwie(m): 8:42pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
hermesprogidy:Of course, that same conspiracy theory. Pretty sure it'd have been recalled had Al Gore won |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by mainman7(m): 8:55pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
I just pity shallow-minded gullible Christians that falls for deceits of Muslims, Homosexuals, Satanists, and Pedophiles. These are the sets of people that magnify anything little antiTrump but ever comments on his innumerable great Achievents for USA. These are the people that really wanted Hillary to with then, so that they can fully take over America, the World at large. Just to expose the set of people that are puring unjustified hatered and infamy on Trump here, I'll quote few of them. 6th and 7th Book of Moses was written by a Satanic Magician called Lawewnce. So Satanists often recommend it to upcoming Satanists. hermesprogidy: This incorrigible Chronic APC Muslim that has been sucking Buhari anus from day 1 here. netpro: |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by Nobody: 9:05pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
hermesprogidy: Link pls. Give me a credible info on the matter, don't just rant wit sentiments |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by hermesprogidy(m): 11:27pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
PrecisionFx:Google is still functional. |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by hermesprogidy(m): 11:31pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
mainman7: Wow!!! Insanity on another level 1 Like |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by KenModi(m): 11:45pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
burner44: Continue to dey worry about wetin dey happen inside my head ennn! Buhari never reach your pocket or pot of soup. |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by hermesprogidy(m): 11:46pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
chewwie: This lengthy pack of misinformation. I don't know where to start correcting you. Do you even know anything about the whistle blower protection policy? Saying the whistle blower is not one because it's 2nd hand information is simply laughable and top notch ignorant. Every testifier has corroborated the original whistle blower complaint directly and indirectly. What transcript are you talking about? The white house memo? You appear confused. You mean the white house memo was a hoax? Do you even know the meaning of hoax? Lastly, stop lying about CNN and Cenk Uygur they don't say stupid things. Kentucky is not a swing State, but it's a republican stronghold and it's not a good sign for Trump that the Republican governor lost, despite rigorous campaign from Trump. |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by hermesprogidy(m): 12:02am On Nov 17, 2019 |
chewwie: Despite your rigorous google research you still came up short. Socialism and communism are totally different. A key signature of socialism is welfarism, so Trump bailing out the farmers is a socialist gesture. Bailing out failed banks and companies are socialist gestures. As long as government gets involved, it becomes socialist by definition. Go read up on Democratic socialism and stop embarrassing yourself. Socialism is not a bad thing when well implemented. Canada, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, UK and other top economies practice some forms of socialism especially in healthcare. I ask you this, what is wrong with healthcare and Education for all? That to me is what Warren and Sanders are demanding. |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by hermesprogidy(m): 12:04am On Nov 17, 2019 |
chewwie: So China is shit? You keep shooting yourself like your idol Donald trump aka. The slowpoke. |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by hermesprogidy(m): 12:14am On Nov 17, 2019 |
JOHNSONSOLAFUNMI: You are mixing things up. Whether deliberately or innocently, is a matter for another day. We are talking about State elections and you keep mentioning presidential elections. Virginia, I repeat is a Republican stronghold that has gone full Democrat. I am not talking about presidential elections, I am talking about the State elections. The same applies to Kentucky. It's not a good sign for the Republican party. They even struggled in Mississippi, where they won narrowly. |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by chewwie(m): 2:52am On Nov 17, 2019 |
hermesprogidy:China is an oppressive state and that is a key element of communist/socialist state |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by chewwie(m): 2:59am On Nov 17, 2019 |
hermesprogidy:Those countries you mentioned aren't socialist, they're mixed market. This is SS1 stuff. And the number problem with MediCare for all, free education at all levels, etc. is this: How do they intend to pay for them? At least Sanders has admitted that not only would he impose a WEALTH (not income) tax on the rich, middle class taxes would also go up, but costs of things would come down. While Warren is yet to tell the American people how she intends to finance it. Running Medicare for all would cost $34trn yearly. Forgiving student loan debts would cost $40 or so trillion. AOC's Green New deal would cost $94trn, where would they get this money? Note that the country is already in a debt of $22trn. Did you see the outcome of ObamaCare? Quality of healthcare dropped, prices of healthcare increased, doctors and patients hated it. And I don't even have sub to make searches on Google :-( |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by chewwie(m): 3:13am On Nov 17, 2019 |
hermesprogidy:Who is a whistleblower? You can't be a whistleblower, by law, if you aren't a firsthand witness to the crime you're reporting. It's like me hearing from Osinbajo's aide that Buhari stole money from Ministry Of Petroleum and going to report to NASS and expecting to be called a whistleblower, it doesn't work that way. Again, have you read the transcript of the call between Trump and Zelensky? It was a perfect call. If there was damning evidence of impeachable offenses in the call, Trump wouldn't have released it to the public? How transparent can a man be? Don't be silly, hermano. CNN and TYT are fake news outlets. Ana Kasparian shed tears when Trump won in 2016, Cenk often resorts to ad hominems when he's losing in debates and why don't they ever bring on conservatives and go to speak in public like conservative speakers do? The main fake news peddlers in CNN are Don Lemon, Chris Fredo Cuomo, Rosemary Church, Hala Gorani, Brian Stelter. While TYT is just despicable. I'm guessing you missed what Hasan Piker (Cenk's nephew) said about Dan Crenshaw's eye and 9/11. |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by chewwie(m): 3:17am On Nov 17, 2019 |
hermesprogidy:Full Democrat? Democrats won Kentucky by less than a point in the Electoral College, and I can assure you that Trump isn't a bit worried, one year of Democrat rule will show the people of Kentucky why they should vote for Trump in 2020. Most black districts in the USA: Philadelphia, Chicago, Baltimore have been under Democrat rule for more than 80 years, but they're not improving, not ruler has done more for the black community than Trump has, but never mind, he's racist |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by chewwie(m): 3:18am On Nov 17, 2019 |
hermesprogidy:If welfare is a socialist move, then the US is already a socialist state because they have the largest welfare program in the world |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by hermesprogidy(m): 6:41am On Nov 17, 2019 |
chewwie:Gbam! That's my point. Socialism is not evil, it's the way you implement it that matters. Have yourself a good day. |
Re: Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Charges In Wikileaks Hacking Case by hermesprogidy(m): 6:49am On Nov 17, 2019 |
chewwie:OK, then let's wait till 2020. But did you watch Trump's last Kentucky rally before the last Governorship election where he implied that if Republicans lost then the media will make him a laughing stock? Despite all his failures, Trump is a very effective communicator and a good deflector, what did you expect him to say after the lose? Guy, 2020 is around the corner. Let's watch. |
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