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Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Blackspider: 5:16pm On Nov 19, 2019
Nickshrapnel:
I don't think he is, because the hatred he has for them is on another level
There is a scientific research that proves that when someone has an immeasurable hatred for something, it is either due to the fact that they are jealous of that thing because of the openness or they are scared that they may be seen differently and decides to show hate.

Again I am not saying anything is obvious just my observations
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nobody: 5:19pm On Nov 19, 2019
Blackspider:
There is a scientific research that proves that when someone has an immeasurable hatred for something, it is either due to the fact that they are jealous of that thing because of the openness or they are scared that they may be seen differently and decides to show hate.

Again I am not saying anything is obvious just my observations
you have come again angry angry angry angry angry
How do you expect me to like that nonsense? angry angry
Jesus Christ!!! i rather die than being gay undecided
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Minemrys(op): 5:21pm On Nov 19, 2019
AfricaGalactic:
Unrelatable =/= uninspiring. What you have is a non-sequitur fallacy.

You know the old saying that "DC characters are gods trying to be people, and Marvel characters are people trying to be gods", right?

I always liken DC heroes to Greek pantheon: God-like in sheer powers and abilities, perfect, beautiful etc. Even a human like Batman is deified because of his pitch perfect attributes. Marvel heroes on the other hand are losers. They're flawed. Even with their powers, they seem like the underdogs. They are essentially "people". That has always been their characterization since 1961.

All this doesn't mean we can't be "inspired" by DC heroes. Both Marvel and DC inspire. EOD
thekingishere uninspiring and unrelatable are 2 different beasts. U relate to s0mething if u can see yourself as that thing. But u can be inspired say by the thought of that thing to do s0mething else. Who can see himself in superman or batman? I can't. But i am inspired by superman's optimism and batman's sense of justice. Then again, i see myself, though little aspects in peter parker. I can relate to peter parker, but i can't relate to superman. But btw the two, i get inspired to be optimistic when i remember a superman quote.
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Blackspider: 5:22pm On Nov 19, 2019
hulk616:
you have come again angry angry angry angry angry
How do you expect me to like that nonsense? angry angry
Jesus Christ!!! i rather die than being gay undecided
I have always told you this your outward expression of homophobia is suspicious. Most homophobes I know are quiet and don't talk much about homosexuality. They rather keep to themselves than be found in such discussion but when they find one is, their true colors shows out and it is mostly brutal.
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Blackspider: 5:30pm On Nov 19, 2019
Minemrys:
thekingishere uninspiring and unrelatable are 2 different beasts. U relate to s0mething if u can see yourself as that thing. But u can be inspired say by the thought of that thing to do s0mething else. Who can see himself in superman or batman? I can't. But i am inspired by superman's optimism and batman's sense of justice. Then again, i see myself, though little aspects in peter parker. I can relate to peter parker, but i can't relate to superman. But btw the two, i get inspired to be optimistic when i remember a superman quote.
That analysis is completely flawed. Both comic book has character that are unrelatable. There are many DC characters that are more relatable than marvel like;
Black lightening - Racism,
Flash - Loss,
Mr terrific - Loss,
Raven - Pains and burden,
Wonder woman - Choice,
Cyborg - Isolation,
Batman - Trauma
Green arrow - Loss

Coupled with the facts that we have the most relatable villains
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by AfricaGalactic(m): 5:30pm On Nov 19, 2019
Minemrys:
thekingishere uninspiring and unrelatable are 2 different beasts. U relate to s0mething if u can see yourself as that thing. But u can be inspired say by the thought of that thing to do s0mething else. Who can see himself in superman or batman? I can't. But i am inspired by superman's optimism and batman's sense of justice. Then again, i see myself, though little aspects in peter parker. I can relate to peter parker, but i can't relate to superman. But btw the two, i get inspired to be optimistic when i remember a superman quote.
Exactly this.
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by AfricaGalactic(m): 5:35pm On Nov 19, 2019
Blackspider:
That analysis is completely flawed. Both comic book has character that are unrelatable. There are many DC characters that are more relatable than marvel like;
Black lightening - Racism,
Flash - Loss,
Mr terrific - Loss,
Raven - Pains and burden,
Wonder woman - Choice,
Cyborg - Isolation,
Batman - Trauma
Green arrow - Loss

Coupled with the facts that we have the most relatable villains
Most of the characterization for the DC heroes you listed started with the Silver Age (50s to 60s). Golden Age (30s to 40s) heroes were mostly one-dimensional (yes, even including Namor and Captain America). But Marvel (1961) was the first to kick off the whole relatable schtick with Spiderman, xmen etc. Unlike DC, Marvel has been like that since Day 1. By day 1, I mean Marvel Comics. Not Timely or Atlas.
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Blackspider: 5:41pm On Nov 19, 2019
AfricaGalactic:
Most of the characterization for the DC heroes you listed started with the Silver Age (50s to 60s). Golden Age (30s to 40s) heroes were mostly one-dimensional (yes, even including Namor and Captain America). But Marvel (1961) was the first to kick off the whole relatable schtick with Spiderman, xmen etc. Unlike DC, Marvel has been like that since Day 1. By day 1, I mean Marvel Comics. Not Timely or Atlas.
That still doesn't change anything, the fact that you still use the golden age era to justify your point against DC and yet will run back to 1961 to show how relatable marvel character are is pure fallacy. Both comic book has relatable and unrelatable characters period.
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by AfricaGalactic(m): 5:41pm On Nov 19, 2019
hulk616:
you have come again angry angry angry angry angry How do you expect me to like that nonsense? angry angry Jesus Christ!!! i rather die than being gay undecided
List just ONE thing wrong with being gay
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by AfricaGalactic(m): 5:43pm On Nov 19, 2019
Blackspider:
That still doesn't change anything, the fact that you still use the golden age era to justify your point against DC and yet will run back to 1961 to show how relatable marvel character are is pure fallacy. Both comic book has relatable and unrelatable characters period.
I see no "pure fallacy" here. If you think there's one, kindly demonstrate.
edit: BTW I'm not saying DC doesn't have relatable heroes. All i'm saying is that Marvel (Stan Lee really) started the trope, hence why "relatable" is affixed more to Marvel. DC only started catching up in the late 60s. Seriously, read and compare the wiki pages of the two companies and you'll understand. Maybe i'm not explaining it well.
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Minemrys(op): 5:46pm On Nov 19, 2019
Blackspider:
That analysis is completely flawed. Both comic book has character that are unrelatable. There are many DC characters that are more relatable than marvel like;
Black lightening - Racism,
Flash - Loss,
Mr terrific - Loss,
Raven - Pains and burden,
Wonder woman - Choice,
Cyborg - Isolation,
Batman - Trauma
Green arrow - Loss

Coupled with the facts that we have the most relatable villains
me, i am talking abt the c0mic b0oks and how the characterz have been written in them. Yea, s0me characterz are relatable for dc but the largely kn0wn 0nes aren't in the traditi0nal sense. And there are marvel characterz that are unrelatable but largely many marvel characterz are relatable. I find it hard relating to barry allen h0nestly. The character i find m0st relatable is wally west.
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by AfricaGalactic(m): 5:48pm On Nov 19, 2019
Minemrys:
me, i am talking abt the c0mic b0oks and how the characterz have been written in them. Yea, s0me characterz are relatable for dc but the largely kn0wn 0nes aren't in the traditi0nal sense. And there are marvel characterz that are unrelatable but largely many marvel characterz are relatable. I find it hard relating to barry allen h0nestly. The character i find m0st relatable is wally west.
Blackspider, this guy gets it
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by TheKingIsHere: 6:13pm On Nov 19, 2019
Blackspider:
That analysis is completely flawed. Both comic book has character that are unrelatable. There are many DC characters that are more relatable than marvel like;
Black lightening - Racism,
Flash - Loss,
Mr terrific - Loss,
Raven - Pains and burden,
Wonder woman - Choice,
Cyborg - Isolation,
Batman - Trauma
Green arrow - Loss

Coupled with the facts that we have the most relatable villains
Well said
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nickshrapnel: 7:12pm On Nov 19, 2019
AfricaGalactic:
List just ONE thing wrong with being gay
He has absolutely no reason, people like him will crucify a racist(someone that hates another person because of his skin color) and yet dine with an homophobe(someone that hates another person because of his sexual preference)
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nobody: 7:14pm On Nov 19, 2019
Blackspider:
I have always told you this your outward expression of homophobia is suspicious. Most homophobes I know are quiet and don't talk much about homosexuality. They rather keep to themselves than be found in such discussion but when they find one is, their true colors shows out and it is mostly brutal.
why should I be quiet when these abnormal human beings are destroying everything i love? angry angry
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nobody: 7:17pm On Nov 19, 2019
AfricaGalactic:
List just ONE thing wrong with being gay
1. It is absolutely abnormal and a disease.
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nobody: 7:24pm On Nov 19, 2019
Nickshrapnel:
He has absolutely no reason, people like him will crucify a racist(someone that hates another person because of his skin color) and yet dine with an homophobe(someone that hates another person because of his sexual preference)
why on earth should I not have reasons to hate homosexuals? Its just like saying i dont have reason to hate murders, rapists, sociopaths, and devils.

Thank God, these abnormal people are not allowed in Nigeria angry
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nickshrapnel: 7:33pm On Nov 19, 2019
hulk616:
why on earth should I not have reasons to hate homosexuals? Its just like saying i dont have reason to hate murders, rapists, sociopaths, and devils.

Thank God, these abnormal people are not allowed in Nigeria angry
Let’s look at it in this hypothetical scenario, your boss is a cool headed guy who you so much like not because of his professionalism alone but because of the way he relate with you outside the work place. You’ve known him for more than a year now and you’ve become very good friends and so one day he decides to introduce you to his partner. Then you realize that he is gay. What will you do?
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nobody: 7:35pm On Nov 19, 2019
Nickshrapnel:
Let’s look at it in this hypothetical scenario, your boss is a cool headed guy who you so much like not because of his professionalism alone but because of the way he relate with you outside the work place. You’ve known him for more than a year now and you’ve become very good friends and so one day he decides to introduce you to his partner. Then you realize that he is gay. What will you do?
stop being his friend, leave the company and report to police for arrest and jailing for 14 years
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nickshrapnel: 7:40pm On Nov 19, 2019
hulk616:
stop being his friend, leave the company and report to police for arrest and jailing for 14 years
One question, have you been ever out of Africa?
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by pu7pl3(m): 7:41pm On Nov 19, 2019
Raalsalghul:
Pu7pl3 thanks for the mention.

I'm happy to know that you've got me in mind.

But right from the onset, the problem has never been with Cavill, but with WB.

Cavill is interested in returning, but WB seems to be sidelining that project.
He said "you'll see" so keep watching smiley
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nobody: 7:44pm On Nov 19, 2019
Nickshrapnel:
One question, have you been ever out of Africa?
yes
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by pu7pl3(m): 7:46pm On Nov 19, 2019
Minemrys:
me, i am talking abt the c0mic b0oks and how the characterz have been written in them. Yea, s0me characterz are relatable for dc but the largely kn0wn 0nes aren't in the traditi0nal sense. And there are marvel characterz that are unrelatable but largely many marvel characterz are relatable. I find it hard relating to barry allen h0nestly. The character i find m0st relatable is wally west.
Apart from Spiderman,which other relatable A list character does marvel have?

And Spiderman's relatability is quite cliché cos if you really think about it superman has to be like one of the most relatable characters of all time(going by Spiderman's relatability that is)
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nickshrapnel: 7:47pm On Nov 19, 2019
hulk616:
yes
Then I won’t have this conversation with you again. cheesy
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nobody: 7:48pm On Nov 19, 2019
Nickshrapnel:
Then I won’t have this conversation with you again. cheesy
huh

Because this nonsense is acceptable there meaning it is right?
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Minemrys(op): 7:50pm On Nov 19, 2019
pu7pl3:
Apart from Spiderman,which other relatable A list character does marvel have?
charles xavier, magneto, t0ny stark (c0mics own), bruce banner, storm.
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nickshrapnel: 7:50pm On Nov 19, 2019
pu7pl3:
Apart from Spiderman,which other relatable A list character does marvel have?
The Punisher grin
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by pu7pl3(m): 7:52pm On Nov 19, 2019
Minemrys:
charles xavier, magneto, t0ny stark (c0mics own), bruce banner, storm.
The usual suspects....I modified my first question btw

But how are these guys more relatable than superman or batman or flash? Please elaborate
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by pu7pl3(m): 7:53pm On Nov 19, 2019
Nickshrapnel:
The Punisher grin
How is the punisher more relatable than Batman or even Deathstroke?
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nobody: 7:54pm On Nov 19, 2019
pu7pl3:
Apart from Spiderman,which other relatable A list character does marvel have?

And Spiderman's relatability is quite cliché cos if you really think about it superman has to be like one of the most relatable characters of all time(going by Spiderman's relatability that is)
iron Man, captain America, Thanos, hulk , fantastic four
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nickshrapnel: 7:55pm On Nov 19, 2019
hulk616:
huh

Because this nonsense is acceptable there meaning it is right?
See, if you are doing something and I’m not getting hurt, the guy next door is not getting hurt, all people living on the street are not getting hurt. Then it’s non of my business what you are doing and I don’t need to hate you for doing that thing even if I don’t approve of what you are doing. It’s just like hating on someone because he keeps eating pasta everyday. Does it concern you?
Please let’s not have this conversation again, let’s just focus on other topics like Marvel and DC grin
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nickshrapnel: 7:57pm On Nov 19, 2019
pu7pl3:
How is the punisher more relatable than Batman or even Deathstroke?
I’m not saying he is more relatable, I just answered a question
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