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hulk616:
iron Man, captain America, Thanos, hulk , fantastic four

Nickshrapnel:
I’m not saying he is more relatable, I just answered a question

pu7pl3:
How are they more relatable than their DC counterparts?

hulk616:
Iron Man lost his parents and decided to do charity works instead of wearing mask and fighting villians without killing them

Captain America captain

Batman has done more charity and impacted more lives directly than iron man can ever dream of

Nickshrapnel:
See, if you are doing something and I’m not getting hurt, the guy next door is not getting hurt, all people living on the street are not getting hurt. Then it’s non of my business what you are doing and I don’t need to hate you for doing that thing even if I don’t approve of what you are doing. It’s just like hating on someone because he keeps eating pasta everyday. Does it concern you?
Please let’s not have this conversation again, let’s just focus on other topics like Marvel and DC

pu7pl3:
Batman has done more charity and impacted more lives directly than iron man can ever dream of

hulk616:
seriously
Gotham is still most dangerous city in DC

Iron Man built superior tech, that cures diseases and gives powers

pu7pl3:
Is this your definition of relatability?? Bruce literally picks kids from the streets and becomes their father while also running numerous charity campaigns under Wayne industries finances

AfricaGalactic:
I see no "pure fallacy" here. If you think there's one, kindly demonstrate.
edit: BTW I'm not saying DC doesn't have relatable heroes. All i'm saying is that Marvel (Stan Lee really) started the trope, hence why "relatable" is affixed more to Marvel. DC only started catching up in the late 60s. Seriously, read and compare the wiki pages of the two companies and you'll understand. Maybe i'm not explaining it well.

Minemrys:
me, i am talking abt the c0mic b0oks and how the characterz have been written in them. Yea, s0me characterz are relatable for dc but the largely kn0wn 0nes aren't in the traditi0nal sense. And there are marvel characterz that are unrelatable but largely many marvel characterz are relatable. I find it hard relating to barry allen h0nestly. The character i find m0st relatable is wally west.

pu7pl3:
The usual suspects....I modified my first question btw

But how are these guys more relatable than superman or batman or flash? Please elaborate

AfricaGalactic:
Blackspider, this guy gets it

Minemrys:
seriously? I could spend all day elaborating but c0me on, am n0t going to pr0m0te marvel on here. Just tell me how u find superman or flash or batman relatable to you. Do u see a bit part of yourself in them? Pers0nally, i can't. Cos these guys are presentd as do gooders, they've got no human flaws, they're superhuman in every way. Batman beats every0ne. Cos he's batman. C0me on? But who can't relate with a guy who grew up in an abusive h0me, developd hot rage while repressing it then gets into a freak accident only to burst up at the slightest provocati0n cos he can no l0nger c0ntrol his rage. Who can't relate with that? Or a p0or girl living on the streets of africa, c0mes into the U. S and is treatd like s0me cancer cos of the abilities she possesses? Or a man who after serving in warz, returns h0me paraplegic and actually wants to make sure there are no m0re wars by trying to bring together people of opposing views and trying to develop youngsterz who society fear and have aband0ned? These characterz portray that pers0nality that makes them reachable and identifiable to a real pers0n.

Minemrys:
seriously? I could spend all day elaborating but c0me on, am n0t going to pr0m0te marvel on here. Just tell me how u find superman or flash or batman relatable to you. Do u see a bit part of yourself in them? Pers0nally, i can't. Cos these guys are presentd as do gooders, they've got no human flaws, they're superhuman in every way. Batman beats every0ne. Cos he's batman. C0me on? But who can't relate with a guy who grew up in an abusive h0me, developd hot rage while repressing it then gets into a freak accident only to burst up at the slightest provocati0n cos he can no l0nger c0ntrol his rage. Who can't relate with that? Or a p0or girl living on the streets of africa, c0mes into the U. S and is treatd like s0me cancer cos of the abilities she possesses? Or a man who after serving in warz, returns h0me paraplegic and actually wants to make sure there are no m0re wars by trying to bring together people of opposing views and trying to develop youngsterz who society fear and have aband0ned? These characterz portray that pers0nality that makes them reachable and identifiable to a real pers0n.

Blackspider:
I wasn't expecting you to find Barry Allen relatable to be honest, but millions whom had lost their mothers to accidents when they were Young finds him relatable. Just like I don't expect you to find Bruce Wayne relatable because none of their tragedies ad affected you which is good news.

Blackspider:
Lol, the fact that "relatable" is commonly used with marvel doesn't make it entirely true.

For example now, DC is term "too dark or dark comics" which is not entirely true. Can you name 10 characters from DC that are not from the batlore that are dark? Or closely related to Gotham. But it has become a common stereotype against DC.

Secondly, you claim that DC characters are written as gods playing men. But that was only during the golden age of comics. The new 52 and rebirth era as the most watered down DC characters of all time but the 616 marvel characters are so overpowered but nobody is calling them gods.

Stop the use of stereotype and see things as they are.

Minemrys:
nah. U still d0n't get it. It's n0t just abt their tragedies. It's abt having a flaw, having that pers0nality trait. These characterz were presented without flaws. Batman does all he does and there aint an issue where we see him feeling the effects? And his no c0mpr0mise stand on justice in a c0rrupt city? How possible is that? These characterz should have a flaw. S0mething they are n0t that g0od at that influences their pers0nality. Ir0n man for instance is all rich, genius and all, but he's never really c0ntentd, a drunk, arrogant, alm0st everything you'd see in rich folks. To me, Dc really tried with the green arrow character. The dude startd out rich, fighting social injustice, became mayor, lost his wealth, bad mannered, a w0maniser etc. He isn't portrayed as all g0od. He even has a political viewpoint. As in, you can form a mental picture of s0me0ne and imagine them as oliver queen. I can't do that with clark kent, diana, bruce wayne or barry allen.

hulk616:
I agree with you for the first time.
Marvel characters are more powerful than DC

I said overpowered not powerful

And stop agreeing with me, we made an agreement

Minemrys:
nah. U still d0n't get it. It's n0t just abt their tragedies. It's abt having a flaw, having that pers0nality trait. These characterz were presented without flaws. Batman does all he does and there aint an issue where we see him feeling the effects? And his no c0mpr0mise stand on justice in a c0rrupt city? How possible is that? These characterz should have a flaw. S0mething they are n0t that g0od at that influences their pers0nality. Ir0n man for instance is all rich, genius and all, but he's never really c0ntentd, a drunk, arrogant, alm0st everything you'd see in rich folks. To me, Dc really tried with the green arrow character. The dude startd out rich, fighting social injustice, became mayor, lost his wealth, bad mannered, a w0maniser etc. He isn't portrayed as all g0od. He even has a political viewpoint. As in, you can form a mental picture of s0me0ne and imagine them as oliver queen. I can't do that with clark kent, diana, bruce wayne or barry allen.

pu7pl3:
More false tropes and clichés every character in comics have their behavioural weakness that still makes them "human" batman is not perfect he is vulnerable and he tries to always hide his emotions by pushing people away with the guise of trying to protect them and it always backfires with someone or people getting hurt

Same with Barry and Clark too,they all have their unique character flaws..they all do

hulk616:
why should I be quiet when these abnormal human beings are destroying everything i love?

Blackspider:
The fact that he doesn't know most DC character weaknesses are their strength is baffling

hulk616:
I agree with you for the first time. Marvel characters are more powerful than DC

Blackspider:
Lol, the fact that "relatable" is commonly used with marvel doesn't make it entirely true.

For example now, DC is term "too dark or dark comics" which is not entirely true. Can you name 10 characters from DC that are not from the batlore that are dark? Or closely related to Gotham. But it has become a common stereotype against DC.

Secondly, you claim that DC characters are written as gods playing men. But that was only during the golden age of comics. The new 52 and rebirth era as the most watered down DC characters of all time but the 616 marvel characters are so overpowered but nobody is calling them gods.

Stop the use of stereotype and see things as they are.

AfricaGalactic:
And you missed my point. Again. It basically comes down to this: Which company introduced superheroes with flaws? Marvel or DC?

Both have relatable characters. Marvel's are just more well known. Twist in anyway you want, Supes & Bats aren't more relatable than Spidey & The X-Men

Lmao

This basically means "I see your point and you are right but I rather die than admit that"

AfricaGalactic:
And you missed my point. Again. It basically comes down to this: Which company introduced superheroes with flaws? Marvel or DC?

Both have relatable characters. Marvel's are just more well known. Twist in anyway you want, Supes & Bats aren't more relatable than Spidey & The X-Men

pu7pl3:
Lmao

This basically means "I see your point and you are right but I rather die than admit that"

Blackspider:
I said overpowered not powerful

And stop agreeing with me, we made an agreement

Blackspider:
Lol, Espanyol came first doesn't mean they ball more than Madrid. Using your analogy, who introduced comic books? DC or Marvel?

Relatability depends on the individual, there are people who doesn't find spiderman relatable but would understand Batman even when both suffered losing loved ones. The fact you find Spider-Man more relatable doesn't mean he is the most relatable character. This depends on the consumer.

Blackspider:
Live and let live

Blackspider:
Lol, Espanyol came first doesn't mean they ball more than Madrid. Using your analogy, who introduced comic books? DC or Marvel?

Relatability depends on the individual, there are people who doesn't find spiderman relatable but would understand Batman even when both suffered losing loved ones. The fact you find Spider-Man more relatable doesn't mean he is the most relatable character. This depends on the consumer.