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AfricaGalactic:
1. Runaways (2003) would be an answer to your question. The original 60s X-Men lineup would be an answer too.

2. Spider-Man being more iconic than Batman before 2000 is a blatant lie. On par? Yes. But not more than. Look up any "iconic fictional characters" list online.

3. Who is XxSabrinaxX?

pu7pl3:
The topic of relatability stems from how the characters behave Asin their characteristics and traits that make them seem relatable and inspiring to readers...
Now you said the DC characters were evolved so as to become relatable hence implying that they weren't before and that is WRONG!!! The way batman behaved in 1938 is the same way he behaved in 1985 and 2005 till now and it's the same for other heroes too(apart from the ones they changed entirely like blue beetle for example) the characters have always been the same and have always been relatable and inspiring and that's how they gained their "icon" status

AfricaGalactic:
Actually Batman (1939) =/= Batman (1966) =/= Frank Miller's Batman.

I don't see how I can relate to Bruce Wayne. Yeah he's driven by revenge and angst. But that's pretty much where his humanity ends for me. Man just seems to perfect for my liking. Maybe you can relate but i can't.

Agree to disagree?

Blackspider:

1. DC have the sovereign seven(1995) predating yours, and even the marvel family.

2. Lol, I won't even argue this one self.

3. Someone that would had explained better.

pu7pl3:
You obviously don't know much about Bruce if you think he is that shallow...Revenge doesn't drive him just anger but that's not even beginning to scratch the surface...
Batman is one of the most relatable character in comics cos a real life human being can be batman in real life,no superpowers just your mind and your wealth,you pull it off while making mistakes along the way and making great sacrifices

AfricaGalactic:
1. Predating the 60s X-Men? I'll give you the Captain Marvel family though.

2. You shouldn't. Batman is so deeply ingrained in American culture its not even funny. It's the same for Spider-Man but where you can really make a case for him is in the rest of the world. Especially Asia for some reason.

3. OK. I'm even tired sef. Got an early start tomorrow.

1. It is settled then, DC started the teen teams.

2. America is part of the world, most countries have Spider-Man as more iconic, that is what counts.

3. Good night then

pu7pl3:
You obviously don't know much about Bruce if you think he is that shallow...Revenge doesn't drive him just anger but that's not even beginning to scratch the surface...
Batman is one of the most relatable character in comics cos a real life human being can be batman in real life,no superpowers just your mind and your wealth,you pull it off while making mistakes along the way and making great sacrifices

Blackspider:
1. It is settled then, DC started the teen teams.

2. America is part of the world, most countries have Spider-Man as more iconic, that is what counts.

3. Good night then

AfricaGalactic:
Yeah. You also need to be the son of a billionaire couple and inherit all their wealth when they kick the rocks

Am just saying. Current Peter Parker's more self made IMO.

God, I need to sleep.

Yea cos a radioactive spider can bite you and give you powers which makes more sense to you?

Bruh go and sleep

pu7pl3:
Yea cos a radioactive spider can bite you and give you powers which makes more sense to you?

Bruh go and sleep

AfricaGalactic:
[s]Said powers constantly cause him suffering. Enstranging him from friends and family. Said powers can't afford him his rent money. Said powers couldn't save Gwen Stacy. Said powers often feel like a curse. Even with the "powers", he's still a youth struggling with his powers and place in the world. Parker Industries didn't come about via Spider powers. If you read most Spidey comics, you'll notice that the "powers" almost always prove irrelevant when it matters the most. Peter worked hard to earn that status of billionaire industrialist. He's already a genius without his powers.

Fun fact: Spider-Man isn't actually powerful enough to face 75% of the members of his rogues gallery. He always beats the likes of Electro, Carnage and Sandman thru intellect & tech made with the budget of a high schooler. Not raw strength.[/s]

pu7pl3:
This isn't a point to Spidey cos if you remove the name Peter/Spiderman from your post people would ask if you were talking about Bruce....cos apart from the being poor part everyother thing you said is exactly the same
1. Being isolated from friends and family/struggling to connect with his own sons(main and adopted)
2. A rouges gallery that always proves to be toomuch hence,Gotham is still a crime infested city despite all his best efforts
3. What he does always end up getting people hurt even when it's obviously not his intentions..etc

and if you think being rich automatically means a character has no problems then I won't bother engaging you on this topic further

Blackspider:
So long it is not your property they are after, it is not your business too.

hulk616:
they are after my property

Blackspider:
Are you an actor?

hulk616:
how can you compare Wonder woman and black widow ?

NeededGist:
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Of all characters to compare Wonder woman with, it had to be black widow
Still, there's a positivity in her character. Depends on how you want to look at it.

In as much as I dislike what Marvel did to Thor, he is the one of the most relatable character in the MCU.

Nickshrapnel:
Look here homophobe, there are no gay scene in deadpool 2(it was only implied) and an artist sexual preference shouldn't hinder you from watching a movie.


And if you still insist on not watching any movies because homosexuals are there, you can do that without announcing to us here, have a nice day

Treyknowles:
Hmmm,Most straight guys like seeing lesbians do their thing,are you sure you're not gay?

NeededGist:
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Of all characters to compare Wonder woman with, it had to be black widow
Still, there's a positivity in her character. Depends on how you want to look at it.

In as much as I dislike what Marvel did to Thor, he is the one of the most relatable character in the MCU.

TheKingIsHere:
The reason why I mentioned black widow is because both her and WW movies are coming out next year. Also, most MCU fanboys, especially on Twitter tag her as the Wonder woman of MCU. I didn't know NL MCU fanboys thought otherwise.

Make una no vex biko.

AfricaGalactic:
Batman: Year One was the comic which introduced most of these points except maybe number 3. When Peter was struggling with rent, bullies, and failing grades in the 60s, Batman comics were in full camp mode. Batman changed whether you like it or not

Struggling with bills and bullies are not the only things that can make a character relatable so don't be naive and act like you only reason linearly

And from your arguements it's obvious you don't even read comics,you just check Wikipedia and blogs and pick whatever point that suits you..talm bout batman changed were you the one that changed him If anything he was even much more relatable back then cos he used to kill and was really vengeful..is that the definition of a perfect man

Batman and superman are Very very relatable and have always been whether you like it or admit it or not it doesn't matter and that's why they are 2 of the most iconic characters ever in comics

AfricaGalactic:
[s]It's funny how people think Batman never changed in characterization. Read some 30s, then 60s Batman comics and then read Frank Miller's run where he basically and entirely revamped the character from scratch. The change in tone and even some character traits is unmistakable. It's not a coincidence that the most iconic Batman stories and moments like Knightfall, Long Halloween, The Killing Joke came around the 70s and up to this day. Unlike Spider-Man where stories like If This Be My Destiny, Spider-Man No More, How Green Was My Goblin came shortly after Spidey's debut.

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TLDR: Marvel was the first to introduce the flawed, relatable heroes. Thus, the term "relatable" is usually affixed to Marvel. DC didn't catch up until later on. With the exception of Captain America, Torch & Namor, Marvel heroes have always been relatable. DC's major heroes on the other hand were always mostly straightlaced in characterization.

Quod Erat Demonstradum.[/s]

TheKingIsHere:
Permit me to disagree with you guys.

I believe hulk616 is against this because he doesn't want it to corrupt his sexual orientation or mindset. To me, there's nothing wrong with that, as he is entitled to not watch homosexual stuff.

pu7pl3:
Garbage opinion bruh...pure uneducated garbage

Nickshrapnel:
I don’t have a problem with what he decides to watch or not watch. Where the problem lies is his hatred for someone because of their sexual preference irrespective of the relationship between them before hand

hulk616:
first class cancellation

you said uneducated garbage, are there educated garbage?

Yes,like when you making a little bit of sense but in a foolish way,that can be categorised as educated garbage

pu7pl3:
Yes,like when you making a little bit of sense but in a foolish way,that can be categorised as educated garbage

hulk616:
Has a professor, my words always look foolish to the ...... ones

you mean AS not HAS mumu boy

pu7pl3:
[s]

Struggling with bills and bullies are not the only things that can make a character relatable so don't be naive and act like you only reason linearly

And from your arguements it's obvious you don't even read comics,you just check Wikipedia and blogs and pick whatever point that suits you..talm bout batman changed were you the one that changed him If anything he was even much more relatable back then cos he used to kill and was really vengeful..is that the definition of a perfect man

Batman and superman are Very very relatable and have always been whether you like it or admit it or not it doesn't matter and that's why they are 2 of the most iconic characters ever in comics[/s]

pu7pl3:
[s]Garbage opinion bruh...pure uneducated garbage[/s]

pu7pl3:
The topic of relatability stems from how the characters behave Asin their characteristics and traits that make them seem relatable and inspiring to readers...
Now you said the DC characters were evolved so as to become relatable hence implying that they weren't before and that is WRONG!!! The way batman behaved in 1938 is the same way he behaved in 1985 and 2005 till now and it's the same for other heroes too(apart from the ones they changed entirely like blue beetle for example) the characters have always been the same and have always been relatable and inspiring and that's how they gained their "icon" status