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Minemrys:
let me ask a questi0n, you kn0w that m0ment when u read a n0vel, then a character is presented, and when u keep reading, u form a mental picture of that character fr0m s0me0ne you've met or kn0wn?

Vic2Ree:
Pu7pl3, wait. They are not saying that DC characters are not relatable. They are saying that Marvel were the first to make their characters relatable. It's not hard to grasp, bruh. Come on. Abi, minemrys and africagalactic, correct me if i'm wrong.

AfricaGalactic:
You don't read my posts. Just skim over it to regurgitate the same trash over again. I never said Batman and Superman weren't relatable.

AfricaGalactic:
Lol . I really don't care bro. Can't take you serious. It is clear from my interactions here that you just want to hear yourself talk. I never said Batman and Superman were unrelatable. The way they're being written in comics is different from when they were first introduced. You just want to strawman and make dumb ad absurdum arguments while slyly interjecting ad hominem. Funnily enough Batman is one of my favorite heroes but i don't read him because i can relate to him. Y'all are acting as if being unrelatable means a fella is trash. That's a false equivalence. I simply stated that Marvel introduced the relatable hero trope and no one has disproved it. Instead you just strikethrough my comments like i'm shitting on DC when am really not. In your feelings much?

Wth is that @ the bolded its doing you no favours in relation to this arguement

If batman is one of your favourite characters it's a pity you know so little about him then

Vic2Ree:
Pu7pl3, wait. They are not saying that DC characters are not relatable. They are saying that Marvel were the first to make their characters relatable. It's not hard to grasp, bruh. Come on. Abi, minemrys and africagalactic, correct me if i'm wrong.

pu7pl3:
Garbage opinion bruh...pure uneducated garbage

pu7pl3:
Wth is that @ the bolded its doing you no favours in relation to this arguement

If batman is one of your favourite characters it's a pity you know so little about him then

NeededGist:
That is very rude.

Marvel has always been known to have more relatable Characters, why is this suddenly a problem to you guys here

NeededGist:
That is very rude.

Marvel has always been known to have more relatable Characters, why is this suddenly a problem to you guys here

AfricaGalactic:
They think unrelatability =/= uninteresting. I'd say that's faulty logic and insecurity rolled into one, but what do I know.

It is a known fact that Stan Lee and Jack Kirby introduced the first wave of flawed, relatable heroes of the Silver Age under the Marvel Comics banner. This is a known fact everywhere. Except on Nairaland

AfricaGalactic:
Ask him to define "relatable". Ultimately, i think what is going on here is either
1. He doesn't know the meaning of "relatable".
OR
2. We have different ideas of the word "relatable".
OR
3. He's conflating character traits and plot points with relatability. Which makes no sense.

My guess is either 2 or 3.

TheKingIsHere:
Me I know understand this argument.

Can someone break it down in summary

I think there's two arguments

First one: Pu7pl3 vs Minemrys >>> Whose heroes are more relatable? Marvel or DC?

Second one: Pu7pl3 vs AfricaGalactic >>> Which company introduced the heroes with flaws, the relatable heroes? Marvel or DC?

AfricaGalactic:
No. What's pitiful here is that you call yourself a DC fan and you know jackshit about DC's history. Batman hasn't always been the dark, brooding loner you're so used to now. There was a time Batman was as campy as Home Alone. Did you ever watch Adam West Batman? Batman comics in the 60s were modelled after its campy, happy-go-lucky, ridiculous atmosphere. Frank Miller changed that in 1986 with The Dark Knight returns. I can even let the whole "Batman relatability" thing slide. But claiming that Batman never changed character wise since his introduction in 1939 is outright ridiculousness.

NeededGist:
That is very rude.

Marvel has always been known to have more relatable Characters, why is this suddenly a problem to you guys here

Vic2Ree:
I think there's two arguments

First one: Pu7pl3 vs Minemrys >>> Whose heroes are more relatable? Marvel or DC?

Second one: Pu7pl3 vs AfricaGalactic >>> Which company introduced the heroes with flaws, the relatable heroes? Marvel or DC?

AfricaGalactic:
Ask him to define "relatable". Ultimately, i think what is going on here is either
1. He doesn't know the meaning of "relatable".
OR
2. We have different ideas of the word "relatable".
OR
3. He's conflating character traits and plot points with relatability. Which makes no sense.

My guess is either 2 or 3.

Vic2Ree:
I think there's two arguments

First one: Pu7pl3 vs Minemrys >>> Whose heroes are more relatable? Marvel or DC?

Second one: Pu7pl3 vs AfricaGalactic >>> Which company introduced the heroes with flaws, the relatable heroes? Marvel or DC?

pu7pl3:
That is a wrong stereotype bruh...that's how they also said that DC characters are always overpowered and unbeatable which is also wrong!!!

TheKingIsHere:
Thanks bro.

**in aquaman's voice**
So my man, pu7pl3 is handling two people and different arguments at the same time, and doing it perfectly well?

Maximum respect to pu7pl3.

Vic2Ree:
I don't know about this. From what i usually read on ComicVine and r/whowouldwin, The Flash Family (infact the entire Flash universe) seem OP

TheKingIsHere:
Thanks bro.

**in aquaman's voice**
So my man, pu7pl3 is handling two people and different arguments at the same time, and doing it perfectly well?

Maximum respect to pu7pl3.

pu7pl3:
Wrong!!! Stop reading Wikipedia if you want to know about a comic book character read the actual comics

Batman has always been brutal with anger issues... shooting and killing his enemies with a gun there was nothing happy/or go lucky about batman in the comics...the show you are talking about has nothing to do with the comic books

The more this arguement drags on the more obvious it is that you do not know your so called favourite character

AfricaGalactic:
Ask him to define "relatable". Ultimately, i think what is going on here is either
1. He doesn't know the meaning of "relatable".
OR
2. We have different ideas of the word "relatable".
OR
3. He's conflating character traits and plot points with relatability. Which makes no sense.

My guess is either 2 or 3.

Vic2Ree:
I don't understand number 3. Can you expantiate?

pu7pl3:
minemrys was saying blatantly that DC characters are not relatable..he name dropped Barry, Bruce and Diana...WRONG!!

AfricanGalactus ABI galactic on the other hand is saying marvel did it first hence implying that some DC characters like Batman and superman and flash were changed over time...also WRONG!!

pu7pl3:
Yea...or from yourself

Minemrys:
i believe, relatability has to do with going thr0ugh a literary or artistic work and creating a mental picture of it; in this case, actually see a character as an actual being than just an entertainment, propagandist i.e capt america, and plot device i.e the wayne murder. As in, when u read a b0ok, u see an actual face. For example, chike and the river or things fall apart or purple hibiscus. When we read these b0oks we can actually imagine being Chike or imagine a cousin of ours being Kambili or that Uncle of ours who is Ok0nkwo. Watching Sam Raimi's spiderman and even the amazing spiderman, i can see aspects of myself in Peter Parker. And i could see a friend of mine as Harry Osborn. I believe that's what relatability is. That mental picture that's so real. As in, you haven't been to a war before but when s0me0ne who has, describes it to u, it kinda bec0mes real.

AfricaGalactic:
Its posts like this that make me wish there was a 100 likes button. Completely agree with your defn

AfricaGalactic:
Aren't you tired of your ad nauseum routine? Are you saying the editors of the DC wiki page have no evidence to back up their assertions. Besides, Wikipedia isn't the only place that backs up my assertion. Google it anywhere and you'll see my assertion still stands. If you want sumthin more practical, you can pick up a 60s Batman and an 80s Batman. Then swear they're not different

pu7pl3:
The basic character traits have always been the same..simple