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Minemrys:
i believe, relatability has to do with going thr0ugh a literary or artistic work and creating a mental picture of it; in this case, actually see a character as an actual being than just an entertainment, propagandist i.e capt america, and plot device i.e the wayne murder. As in, when u read a b0ok, u see an actual face. For example, chike and the river or things fall apart or purple hibiscus. When we read these b0oks we can actually imagine being Chike or imagine a cousin of ours being Kambili or that Uncle of ours who is Ok0nkwo. Watching Sam Raimi's spiderman and even the amazing spiderman, i can see aspects of myself in Peter Parker. And i could see a friend of mine as Harry Osborn. I believe that's what relatability is. That mental picture that's so real. As in, you haven't been to a war before but when s0me0ne who has, describes it to u, it kinda bec0mes real. L0ok at the black lightning show, am n0t a father or a principal or anything but i can relate to Jeffers0n pierce. It's that c0nnecti0n u kn0w? It's n0t abt having ur parents shot in an alley that u could relate to batman or being an alien to relate to superman. Chris N0lan really made batman relatable if n0t i've never been a fan of batman. And so did smallville. They made clark kent relatable in that show.

Minemrys:
n0w, b4 we use words, we need to be sure as to the c0ntext we are using it. And, i never said DC characterz in a plural sense or in a collective sense. I said the Dc big guns and i went to list such characterz. I also during my argument menti0n a few Dc characterz like green arrow who were actually relatable. So, bro. Check the c0ntext of the statement b4 u c0me up with a narrative. B4 n0lan's film, i've never found batman relatable and that's becos of the c0mics. As in batman is t0o g0od that u never feel a sense of danger or stakes against him. The writerz present him as to0 perfect. Yea, he has anger issues, yes, his parents were killed. But they never show us the c0nsequences to his acti0ns atimes. They never make batman deal with n0rmal human shites like tax, cops poking n0se into his issue or that kinda thing. But that's being t0ned down n0w as m0re intelligent writerz enter the fold. Then again, that doesn't change the fact that, batman has been t0o hyped and over powered that i can't c0me off the thought that it's weird to see batman smile or attempt to do s0mething funny out of the blue. Example, when batman showed he was happy to see clark alive and as superman in Jl, people were like, batman's never happy. And i was like, if he was expressi0nless, how then would we relate to him? In the Tdk trilogy, we saw batman be genuinely afraid, doubt, be em0ti0nal, that's what makes a character relatable and feel real to the audience.

AfricaGalactic:
People relate to fictional heroes when they see the hero go through on a daily basis what they themselves go through. Not just a single event. But Every. Single. Day. Just on a larger scale. I'm not saying DC heroes are unrelatable though. That's not my point

Minemrys:
n0w, how do u see yourself in c0mic b0ok barry allen or bruce wayne or diana or clark kent?

pu7pl3:
Wrong!!! Stop reading Wikipedia if you want to know about a comic book character read the actual comics

Batman has always been brutal with anger issues... shooting and killing his enemies with a gun there was nothing happy/or go lucky about batman in the comics..it's also usual that the characters evolve over time and more depth is added like his hatred for guns and killing for example but basic traits have always been the same..Robin was recruited in 1940 and that is a testament to that....the show you are talking about has nothing to do with the comic books

The more this arguement drags on the more obvious it is that you do not know your so called favourite character

AfricaGalactic:
List the traits please

pu7pl3:
That is a wrong stereotype bruh...that's how they also said that DC characters are always overpowered and unbeatable which is also wrong!!!

hulk616:
thank you so much.

do you know Marvel has more reality warpers than DC like ratio 20:1.

20:1 is an understatement

TheKingIsHere:
Thanks bro.

**in aquaman's voice**
So my man, pu7pl3 is handling two people and different arguments at the same time, and doing it perfectly well?

Maximum respect to pu7pl3.

pu7pl3:
I can literally list 10 times off the top of my head where batman has shown emotions in the comics...his whole life is a by product of emotional trauma...anybody saying that batman doesn't show emotions is ignorant simple

Minemrys:
aside anger, what em0ti0n has c0mics batman being allowed to portray? Dude is even em0ti0nally distant when put in a relati0nship. I remember saying it here prior, i told u guys it was strange seeing batman dating, and stuff like batman doesn't need a love interest. It's that thing the c0mics has led me to have abt batman.

pu7pl3:
20:1 is an understatement

Minemrys:
aside anger, what em0ti0n has c0mics batman being allowed to portray? Dude is even em0ti0nally distant when put in a relati0nship. I remember saying it here prior, i told u guys it was strange seeing batman dating, and stuff like batman doesn't need a love interest. It's that thing the c0mics has led me to have abt batman.

pu7pl3:
Barry was just a normal guy that got struck by lightning...The only difference between Barry and Peter are their ages tbh so nothing much to say here

Bruce on the other hand is an emotional wreck but is still struggling to be the one shining light in a place filled with darkness,most times he is forced to embrace that darkness and that's why he uses fear as a tool..if you have had the opportunity to work in a place where pressure is on you to be corrupt you will understand

Diana is a Goddess that had to leave her comfort zone just to help people...doctors that volunteer for war zones and red cross face this everyday

Clark Kent is an alien from another planet struggling to fit in while also hiding his true identity from the world,he could easily sneeze mistakingly and kill someone...does this even need more elaborating?

Minemrys:
bros, these are cb plotlines u are dishing out. Okay, how many times has the cb made us feel barry allen is still that n0rmal guy going through n0rmal problems regular guys like us feel? U still haven't answered my Q. How do u pers0nally relate to allen, diana and bruce or clark?

If Spiderman is relatable to you why the hell would you say Barry Allen is not relatable Peter lost his uncle Barry lost his mum
Peter struggles with school and his crushes Barry struggles with work and bills and his relationships too
And so on and so on......They have very similar characters traits so I don't get why one is relatable to you while the other isn't..it's kinda dumb tbh no offense

I relate to them via what I listed above earlier...I won't start listing my personal experiences to you or experiences of people close to me bottom line is they have that depth that people globally relate to in one way or another

pu7pl3:
Dark, brooding, highly Emotional,Moral and a high sense of justice

pu7pl3:
If Spiderman is relatable to you why the hell would you say Barry Allen is not relatable Peter lost his uncle Barry lost his mum
Peter struggles with school and his crushes Barry struggles with work and bills and his relationships too
And so on and so on......They have very similar characters traits so I don't get why one is relatable to you while the other isn't..it's kinda dumb tbh no offense

I relate to them via what I listed above earlier...I won't start listing my personal experiences to you or experiences of people close to me bottom line is they have that depth that people globally relate to in one way or another

hulk616:
100:1
DC characters and stories are more grounded and more relatable than marvel NOWADAYS.

pu7pl3:
20:1 is an understatement

hulk616:
thank you so much.

do you know Marvel has more reality warpers than DC like ratio 20:1.

Vic2Ree:
So, in an all-out brawl, you're both saying Marvel will wreck DC?

AfricaGalactic:
I like how you said "NOWADAYS" rather than "WHEN THEY WERE FIRST CREATED".

[s]Oga everybody knows that both DC and Marvel have dropped in quality when it comes to comics these days. You've gone off track.[/s]

[s]Nairaland is literally the only place online where people think Golden Age heroes were relatable. Lol[/s]

Vic2Ree:
So, in an all-out brawl, you're both saying Marvel will wreck DC?

AfricaGalactic:
That's an interesting question

hulk616:
Marvel and DC comics has not dropped in quality

[s]The idea behind the creation of the Golden Age heroes are relatable[/s] LOL WHAT?

AfricaGalactic:
OK bro. Shift...

AfricaGalactic:
BTW, LOL @ the people bashing Wikipedia. It's like they forgot that EVERY information that is placed in a wiki page must be traced to a published and authoritative source. Editing wikipedia isn't an easy task. You must have a source. Trust me, I've tried it!

hulk616:
Superman living in another planet --- in human, someone living in another country
Batman parents killed by a thief -- in human, parents killed by thief and you are trying to make the city a better place
Wonder woman leaving their home, fighting in war and can never go back --- soldiers going for war

AfricaGalactic:
Ask him to define "relatable". Ultimately, i think what is going on here is either
1. He doesn't know the meaning of "relatable".
OR
2. We have different ideas of the word "relatable".
OR
3. He's conflating character traits and plot points with relatability. Which makes no sense.

AfricaGalactic:
Batman was not dark and brooding in the 60s up until 1986. The rest have always been a staple of the Batman mythos.

Vic2Ree:
So, in an all-out brawl, you're both saying Marvel will wreck DC?

hulk616:
Marvel and DC comics has not dropped in quality

The idea behind the creation of the Golden Age heroes are relatable