Spy360:

Give us your stats and the links. I challenge you.

How far do you need last season stat and the next coming season too .
I get am too

iamoyindamola:
This guy go just they jump into argument he knows nothing about, during the unbeaten streak last season in EPL was guendouzi a starter or not?
What stats are you looking for, last season I compared him with other midfielders and they beat the boy flawless
See your home boy leading on appreance and rating because he played more than them. No wonder xhaka is angry,It's a phucking disgrace mehn

Are you sure you are OK?

You gave a stat that showed Guen as the best midfielder with a rating of 7pts while others have 6pts.

I repeat...

Are you OK?

iamoyindamola:
This guy go just they jump into argument he knows nothing about, during the unbeaten streak last season in EPL was guendouzi a starter or not?
What stats are you looking for, last season I compared him with other midfielders and they beat the boy flawless
See your home boy leading on appreance and rating because he played more than them. No wonder xhaka is angry,It's a phucking disgrace mehn

Your argument is on appearance and rating.

What else do you use to judge performance?

Let me help you.
The better you are, the more appearance and ratings you get. In fact, stats drop when you play more. That's what you guys don't know. Its easy to get 50℅ on goals scored if you played only two games and scored one goal. Than when you played 10games. That means you need 5goals.

FCK why should I be explaing this. Guy use your head biko.

kokaneprodigy:
i’ll get Back to you.

We dey here oga.

iamoyindamola:
How far do you need last season stat and the next coming season too .
I get am too

So you accept Guen is our best midfielder so far this season?

Spy360:

Your argument is on appearance and rating.

What else do you use to judge performance?

Let me help you.
The better you are, the more appearance and ratings you get. In fact, stats drop when you play more. That's what you guys don't know. Its easy to get 50℅ on goals scored if you played only two games and scored one goal. Than when you played 10games. That means you need 5goals.

FCK why should I be explaing this. Guy use your head biko.

how can you judge on appearance and rating what kind of person is this?
Did he do his main job or you didn't see xhaka defensive stat to his own I can't even believe I'm having this dumbass conversation

iamoyindamola:
how can you judge on appearance and rating what k

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ind of person is this?
Did he do his main job or you didn't see xhaka defensive stat to his own I can't even believe I'm having this dumbass conversation

You have not learned.

We are now 8points a drift of Chelsea and fourth position. This is abysmal and that the board is slow to act is an indication of retrogression.

Spy360:
We are now 8points a drift of Chelsea and fourth position. This is abysmal and that the board is slow to act is an indication of retrogression.

how do we keep players with this attitude? How do we woo better players now?
It’s a precarious situation one I didn’t want us to be in.

kokaneprodigy:
how do we keep players with this attitude? How do we woo better players now?
It’s a precarious situation one I didn’t want us to be in.

I heard the board are still backing him especially that Raul guy

iamoyindamola:
I heard the board are still backing him especially that Raul guy

I read Pep gave an hint on Arterta joining us

Fkhalifa:

I read Pep gave an hint on Arterta joining us

Arteta again

Shame how the stats this stats that is what is now used to judge players. Really laughable it is. Back then all the coaches needed were to see what you did in training and what you consistently delivered game after game for them to know if truly you would become a success in the sport.

I look at this present arsenal team and in my opinion , its not a bad squad at all, its just needs a better coach at the moment. Bar a few players that are not up to scratch especially in the defense and midfield, its a decent squad that should be challenging for trophies.

Watching the last game and seeing Auba who is supposed to be scoring goals upfront having to track down runners on either side of the fullback positions at times was worrisome. Taking off Hector when you switched to a 4-4-2 after it seemed the 3-5-2 was not working and not replacing with another fullback was also confusing as it left so much gap on that side that gave southampton more than enough chance win the game by a clear margin.

By the way i am a lover of 4-4-2 and the best years of Arsenal was when we played 4-4-2 imho with Henry Bergkamp up top. Frediie and Pires either side of the midfield and Ray/Viera/Gilberto in the middle with one as central and one as defensive mid. The back four picked it self with Keown, Adams, Silvigno and the Camerounian(cant remeber the name now). and of course David Seaman in Goal. Every player understood their roles and i cant ever remember Henry having to be tracking a winger back all the time or Dennis Bergkamp defending on the wings... Its just absurd to see the lack of organization with Emery's constant tinkering when honestly he should just have stuck with his 4-3-3 and improve on it.

The greatest undoing of ours was not the system we played but Wenger failing to replace the players that had given him so much success with the system. we went from Henry to Shamack and Sanogo and from Viera to Denillson and co. Altogether AW now had to change his system to accommodate less skilled players when we could have used money from the sales of the good ones to get like for like replacements and ensure continuity. This is where Sir Alex and Diego Simeone got it right. Once a High profile player was sold, the money was re-invested to near or better quality of that player so that he fits seamlessly into the system rather than buy a less better player and start having problems only to change the system entirely.

Well i hope one day , we will hire a top manager who will stick to his style and only procure the right personell to execute his style come rain or shine

Jencejyde:
Shame how the stats this stats that is what is now used to judge players. Really laughable it is. Back then all the coaches needed were to see what you did in training and what you consistently delivered game after game for them to know if truly you would become a success in the sport.

I look at this present arsenal team and in my opinion , its not a bad squad at all, its just needs a better coach at the moment. Bar a few players that are not up to scratch especially in the defense and midfield, its a decent squad that should be challenging for trophies.

Watching the last game and seeing Auba who is supposed to be scoring goals upfront having to track down runners on either side of the fullback positions at times was worrisome. Taking off Hector when you switched to a 4-4-2 after it seemed the 3-5-2 was not working and not replacing with another fullback was also confusing as it left so much gap on that side that gave southampton more than enough chance win the game by a clear margin.

By the way i am a lover of 4-4-2 and the best years of Arsenal was when we played 4-4-2 imho with Henry Bergkamp up top. Frediie and Pires either side of the midfield and Ray/Viera/Gilberto in the middle with one as central and one as defensive mid. The back four picked it self with Keown, Adams, Silvigno and the Camerounian(cant remeber the name now). and of course David Seaman in Goal. Every player understood their roles and i cant ever remember Henry having to be tracking a winger back all the time or Dennis Bergkamp defending on the wings... Its just absurd to see the lack of organization with Emery's constant tinkering when honestly he should just have stuck with his 4-3-3 and improve on it.

The greatest undoing of ours was not the system we played but Wenger failing to replace the players that had given him so much success with the system. we went from Henry to Shamack and Sanogo and from Viera to Denillson and co. Altogether AW now had to change his system to accommodate less skilled players when we could have used money from the sales of the good ones to get like for like replacements and ensure continuity. This is where Sir Alex and Diego Simeone got it right. Once a High profile player was sold, the money was re-invested to near or better quality of that player so that he fits seamlessly into the system rather than buy a less better player and start having problems only to change the system entirely.

Well i hope one day , we will hire a top manager who will stick to his style and only procure the right personell to execute his style come rain or shine

The bolded as our greatest undoing, hmmm, its deep..

I like your Auba Analysis, he will continue to be running and defending so far he plays wing roles, He is a CF and should be made to score

Swissh good ebening o..

Long time no see

Hope u are okay sha

Jencejyde:
Shame how the stats this stats that is what is now used to judge players. Really laughable it is. Back then all the coaches needed were to see what you did in training and what you consistently delivered game after game for them to know if truly you would become a success in the sport.

I look at this present arsenal team and in my opinion , its not a bad squad at all, its just needs a better coach at the moment. Bar a few players that are not up to scratch especially in the defense and midfield, its a decent squad that should be challenging for trophies.

Watching the last game and seeing Auba who is supposed to be scoring goals upfront having to track down runners on either side of the fullback positions at times was worrisome. Taking off Hector when you switched to a 4-4-2 after it seemed the 3-5-2 was not working and not replacing with another fullback was also confusing as it left so much gap on that side that gave southampton more than enough chance win the game by a clear margin.

By the way i am a lover of 4-4-2 and the best years of Arsenal was when we played 4-4-2 imho with Henry Bergkamp up top. Frediie and Pires either side of the midfield and Ray/Viera/Gilberto in the middle with one as central and one as defensive mid. The back four picked it self with Keown, Adams, Silvigno and the Camerounian(cant remeber the name now). and of course David Seaman in Goal. Every player understood their roles and i cant ever remember Henry having to be tracking a winger back all the time or Dennis Bergkamp defending on the wings... Its just absurd to see the lack of organization with Emery's constant tinkering when honestly he should just have stuck with his 4-3-3 and improve on it.

The greatest undoing of ours was not the system we played but Wenger failing to replace the players that had given him so much success with the system. we went from Henry to Shamack and Sanogo and from Viera to Denillson and co. Altogether AW now had to change his system to accommodate less skilled players when we could have used money from the sales of the good ones to get like for like replacements and ensure continuity. This is where Sir Alex and Diego Simeone got it right. Once a High profile player was sold, the money was re-invested to near or better quality of that player so that he fits seamlessly into the system rather than buy a less better player and start having problems only to change the system entirely.

Well i hope one day , we will hire a top manager who will stick to his style and only procure the right personell to execute his style come rain or shine

This is an intelligent piece. The Cameroonian player you are referring to is Lauren Etame...

kokaneprodigy:
how do we keep players with this attitude? How do we woo better players now?
It’s a precarious situation one I didn’t want us to be in.

We would be extremely lucky to reach top 4 at this point. Liverpool and City had already allocated two spaces for themselves, Chelsea are our direct rivals and are targeting the spot, Leicester are the inform team at the moment and does not seem to look back. The have already collected three points from us this season.

Worse is that its not like we are fifth, the teams above and below (United and Spurs) are already geared up to fight.

I look at the end of the tunnel and all I see is doom and gloom.

#EmeryOutNow

Jencejyde:
Shame how the stats this stats that is what is now used to judge players. Really laughable it is. Back then all the coaches needed were to see what you did in training and what you consistently delivered game after game for them to know if truly you would become a success in the sport.

I look at this present arsenal team and in my opinion , its not a bad squad at all, its just needs a better coach at the moment. Bar a few players that are not up to scratch especially in the defense and midfield, its a decent squad that should be challenging for trophies.

Watching the last game and seeing Auba who is supposed to be scoring goals upfront having to track down runners on either side of the fullback positions at times was worrisome. Taking off Hector when you switched to a 4-4-2 after it seemed the 3-5-2 was not working and not replacing with another fullback was also confusing as it left so much gap on that side that gave southampton more than enough chance win the game by a clear margin.

By the way i am a lover of 4-4-2 and the best years of Arsenal was when we played 4-4-2 imho with Henry Bergkamp up top. Frediie and Pires either side of the midfield and Ray/Viera/Gilberto in the middle with one as central and one as defensive mid. The back four picked it self with Keown, Adams, Silvigno and the Camerounian(cant remeber the name now). and of course David Seaman in Goal. Every player understood their roles and i cant ever remember Henry having to be tracking a winger back all the time or Dennis Bergkamp defending on the wings... Its just absurd to see the lack of organization with Emery's constant tinkering when honestly he should just have stuck with his 4-3-3 and improve on it.

The greatest undoing of ours was not the system we played but Wenger failing to replace the players that had given him so much success with the system. we went from Henry to Shamack and Sanogo and from Viera to Denillson and co. Altogether AW now had to change his system to accommodate less skilled players when we could have used money from the sales of the good ones to get like for like replacements and ensure continuity. This is where Sir Alex and Diego Simeone got it right. Once a High profile player was sold, the money was re-invested to near or better quality of that player so that he fits seamlessly into the system rather than buy a less better player and start having problems only to change the system entirely.

Well i hope one day , we will hire a top manager who will stick to his style and only procure the right personell to execute his style come rain or shine

Good point.

Just to add, we can't play a 4-4-2 because we lack that big mobile guy in midfield. Our midfield would be out run like they don't exist. Plus our useless defence. They will just die of shots.
A 4-3-3 should be OK, but that's what we are getting whooped for. Our defence can't survive on their own and need the midfield to cover so much space for them. This will make the system disjointed and weaken our attack.
4-5-1 may suit us better. It means no inverted wingers as we have currently.

More importantly, that I am typing all this bull craps shows we have a very useless manager who doesn't know his job.

#EmeryOutNow

Fkhalifa:

The bolded as our greatest undoing, hmmm, its deep..

I like your Auba Analysis, he will continue to be running and defending so far he plays wing roles, He is a CF and should be made to score

Sadly, this is the fault of Emery as i beilive Auba is one of the most in-form strikers around the top leagues and he his made to do so much work that ordinarily should be left to the midfielders and defenders. His energy should be conserved for pressing and making runs to draw out and pressurize defenses and not to be used in defending for the entirety of the game? How he still manages to score with so much work is credit and respect to him.

Roland17:


This is an intelligent piece. The Cameroonian player you are referring to is Lauren Etame...

Thanks! The name just skipped my mind. How we missed those good times when we knew the starting eleven week in week out

Spy360:

Good point.

Just to add, we can't play a 4-4-2 because we lack that big mobile guy in midfield. Our midfield would be out run like they don't exist. Plus our useless defence. They will just die of shots.
A 4-3-3 should be OK, but that's what we are getting whooped for. Our defence can't survive on their own and need the midfield to cover so much space for them. This will make the system disjointed and weaken our attack.
4-5-1 may suit us better. It means no inverted wingers as we have currently.

More importantly, that I am typing all this bull craps shows we have a very useless manager who doesn't know his job.

#EmeryOutNow

Lol! everyone really wants Emery out. I agree that 4-4-2 without the right personnel would be an audacious task but when i look at Sheffield which i enjoy watching because they so remind me of the old Arsenal except they don't have the quality of players we possessed. One thing that strikes me is that they are well drilled in their organisational positioning off and on the ball consistently, no matter who they play. And i beilive if less quality players with no disrespect to them can put up consistent performances playing the system, how much more , the Arsenal team with top earners and better quality of players. It simply means either the coach does not have something to offer or the players are unable to execute what he has to offer.

And again i also agree that maybe emery should stop the tinkering and revert to the 4-3-3 which kinda suits the players at his disposal but make sure to play them in their ideal and preferred positions.

In a typical 4-4-2 (not the diamond) You have a central Mid and Defensive mId. One of the greatest lessons i learned was that you as a defensive mid(which was my position) have the utmost responsibility of protecting or shielding your back four. At no point in time unless its absolutely necessary that you should be ahead of your central mid. You must always be an angle to him no more than 15 to 12 yards apart.


This was the greatest drill and lesson that whenever i watch a game and look at the setup of the team. I keep on asking. Who is responsible for shielding the defense? If its Torreira, then why does he always have to be far ahead of Guen for no reason at times? If its Guen then why does he have to be far into the opposition box at times with no communication for torreria to cover him. There is absolutely no form of responsibility passed on to individuals in the game , hence we look so disjointed at times like secondary school students.

I remember Chelsea fans calling for Sarris head when he pushed Kante more forward but in actual fact he did nothing wrong. All he did was pass responsibility of protection to Jorghino and gave kante a new responsibility which is to press from the attack. Whether Kante is the right personell for that is debatable but when you watch Chelsea, just notice how Jorghino is hardly ever ahead of Kova or any of his other mids. The guy simply understands his role. Some coaches have choice of personell for roles which people may not agree with based on size pyshice etc ... but the key thing is that Once you are assigned a position. You need to take responsibility and play that role as instructed.

Why should a Dm and still be bursting into the box everytime to score? Is that his primary assignment?

Maybe i need to stop now as there's so much in-depth footie discuss that one can go on and on with, plus work dey tommorow jare

Jencejyde:


Sadly, this is the fault of Emery as i beilive Auba is one of the most in-form strikers around the top leagues and he his made to do so much work that ordinarily should be left to the midfielders and defenders. His energy should be conserved for pressing and making runs to draw out and pressurize defenses and not to be used in defending for the entirety of the game? How he still manages to score with so much work is credit and respect to him.

You understand football jare, the likes of Sanchez are specialist on defending and attacking from the wings, Auba should not be anywhere other than the CF.

I will like to see if the next manager will bow to fans pressure and play him on the wings, it'll be a straight signal of another crap management

Jencejyde:


Thanks! The name just skipped my mind. How we missed those good times when we knew the starting eleven week in week out

This guy right

Jencejyde:


Thanks! The name just skipped my mind. How we missed those good times when we knew the starting eleven week in week out

And even when the starting eleven changed, the players selected executed the plan to the T. Right now, I can’t tell you I know which style we are playing, I mean, apart from conceding copious amounts of shot every game!
While I have a stronger preference for the 4-4-2 especially since it has been our historical identity, I have to agree with @Spy360 about a 4-3-3, only because our atrocious defense will concede goals irrespective of how many player we put in front of Leno, so why not attack the opponents and make it a shootout? Emery has been a nightmare, this squad is not an Europa League squad.
I am even more worried about the young guns that have stunted or regressed tremendously under him. I can’t entrust the development of these player to Emery.
EMERYOUT!!! I can’t scream this enough!

Fkhalifa:


You understand football jare, the likes of Sanchez are specialist on defending and attacking from the wings, Auba should not be anywhere other than the CF.

I will like to see if the next manager will bow to fans pressure and play him on the wings, it'll be a straight signal of another crap management

Is it a case of bowing to fan pressure or a case of constantly tinkering with the formation because he is just as confused with his team’s lacks an identity? Just like you, I have never been a fan of playing Auba outside the CF position because he is lethal with his positioning and ability to make runs.
Playing Auba as the lone CF when all we do is concede possession and welcome all the pressure is nothing but a recipe for disaster because it leaves Auba isolated and that frustrates him a lot because he has to come deep to get involved especially when there is no ball playing/ carrying midfielder.

kokaneprodigy:
This is Roy on Guen

How can Roy use 'our' when referring to Arsenal?

Jencejyde:


Lol! everyone really wants Emery out. I agree that 4-4-2 without the right personnel would be an audacious task but when i look at Sheffield which i enjoy watching because they so remind me of the old Arsenal except they don't have the quality of players we possessed. One thing that strikes me is that they are well drilled in their organisational positioning off and on the ball consistently, no matter who they play. And i beilive if less quality players with no disrespect to them can put up consistent performances playing the system, how much more , the Arsenal team with top earners and better quality of players. It simply means either the coach does not have something to offer or the players are unable to execute what he has to offer.

And again i also agree that maybe emery should stop the tinkering and revert to the 4-3-3 which kinda suits the players at his disposal but make sure to play them in their ideal and preferred positions.

In a typical 4-4-2 (not the diamond) You have a central Mid and Defensive mId. One of the greatest lessons i learned was that you as a defensive mid(which was my position) have the utmost responsibility of protecting or shielding your back four. At no point in time unless its absolutely necessary that you should be ahead of your central mid. You must always be an angle to him no more than 15 to 12 yards apart.


This was the greatest drill and lesson that whenever i watch a game and look at the setup of the team. I keep on asking. Who is responsible for shielding the defense? If its Torreira, then why does he always have to be far ahead of Guen for no reason at times? If its Guen then why does he have to be far into the opposition box at times with no communication for torreria to cover him. There is absolutely no form of responsibility passed on to individuals in the game , hence we look so disjointed at times like secondary school students.

I remember Chelsea fans calling for Sarris head when he pushed Kante more forward but in actual fact he did nothing wrong. All he did was pass responsibility of protection to Jorghino and gave kante a new responsibility which is to press from the attack. Whether Kante is the right personell for that is debatable but when you watch Chelsea, just notice how Jorghino is hardly ever ahead of Kova or any of his other mids. The guy simply understands his role. Some coaches have choice of personell for roles which people may not agree with based on size pyshice etc ... but the key thing is that Once you are assigned a position. You need to take responsibility and play that role as instructed.

Why should a Dm and still be bursting into the box everytime to score? Is that his primary assignment?

Maybe i need to stop now as there's so much in-depth footie discuss that one can go on and on with, plus work dey tommorow jare

I tell you my brother, we also have our own work to do.

You were absolutely spot on about the DM issue which has been one of major problems. I feel Emery doesn't want to assign that duty. Some coaches preferred a dynamic centre where all attack and defend. A good example is Liverpool. But like you said, it takes proper drilling and continuity, consistency and regular practice to achieve. Wenger was known for this. A testimony to his stubbornness anyway.

Emery tinkers a lot even within games, sometimes using systems that are far apart in execution, leaving the players more confused.

Did you notice the second goal we conceded against Soton came when we were actually accending in attack, but lost shape in defence, leading to the penalty

#EmeryOutNow

iamoyindamola:
This guy right

Exactly. And that's the mentality we are lacking. So many sissies, jerry curl babies...












I know you will like this.

Spy360:

Exactly. And that's the mentality we are lacking. So many sissies, jerry curl babies...












I know you will like this.

Etame is actually gentle, that day was just a terrible day almost half of arsenal players were fined. But these new generation are just pussies against spurs last season Jerry curls went to look for trouble and he ran to his crew when the spurs players were after him, if not for that tank kolasinac

Make una take this emeryout matter jejely na...before una burst pipe shiorrrrr!

Roland17 and spy360....don't be a fccking sellout ffs guys!

digz:
Make una take this emeryout matter jejely na...before una burst pipe shiorrrrr!

Roland17 and spy360....don't be a fccking sellout ffs guys!

I know you understand. You have always been in this position. Its in your club's DNA. You change managers like pads.

That reminds me. Hope my baby is growing fast?

iamoyindamola:
Etame is actually gentle, that day was just a terrible day almost half of arsenal players were fined. But these new generation are just pussies against spurs last season Jerry curls went to look for trouble and he ran to his crew when the spurs players were after him, if not for that tank kolasinac

When we had an unchangeable back 4.

Ashley Cole, Kolo Toure, Sol Campbell, Lauren.

They replaced,
Lee Dixon, Martin Keown, Tony Adams, Nigel Winterburn.