murphyibiam15:

Shut up you this Edo Muslim boy, actually by nature Edo isn't even originally part of SS, you're more like north Central partially and the other half as Afonja...Edo doesn't even have more than 1 cup of oil.. who's now feeding who, but Almost all the states in east are oil producing

You get bad mouth sha. Me chionu...!
Don't kiss ya woman today o!!
This mouth I'm smelling here is bad gann!

proudevil:
@ op....
This thread is devoid of nothing except jingosm, uneducative , senseless, and utmost trash.
Nairaland is a dumping ground for some nigeria youth where they can dump every day anger and furstration on other tribes.

North is one. And it will always be, forget the religious crises which will continue till kingdom come, forget the politics,It will continue forever.forget your middle belt dream thats just a name, they will continue to have new name for the people in that region. North is an indivisible entity. Sir ahmadu bello as laid the foundation not for the fulani domination as some cowards are claiming but for the dominace of the north.
Op you are just a bigot like the Muslims and the Christians in the North. Who is fighting for the maguzawas, the millions of northern animist and the atheist.?

Op is correct with the information provided. I am a Yoruba and before my NYSC, I used to think that; from Niger State to the far northern States, they are all Hausa/Fulani; I never even knew we have good numbers of people from those regions who are Christians. But after been posted to Sokoto State my orientation change, I have friends from Nasarawa, Jigawa, Benue and so on who are Christians; in fact they are ready to fight you if you keep calling them Hausas after they've corrected you over time.

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Op is correct with the information provided. I am a Yoruba and before my NYSC, I used to think that; from Niger State to the far northern States, they are all Hausa/Fulani; I never even knew we have good numbers of people from those regions who are Christians. But after been posted to Sokoto State my orientation change, I have friends from Nasarawa, Jigawa, Benue and so on who are Christians; in fact they are ready to fight you if you keep calling them Hausas after they've corrected you over




My guy..., na so we dey live up here.
The best way to know the style of Fulanis whenever power slips into their hands is what Buhari is currently doing in all Federal agencies ministries and security outfits. They will make a Fulani Muslim to head the institutions, the Fulani Muslim would in turn recruit and promote all other Fulanis Muslims to dominate the organisations over time. Then they turn around and claim everyone in that organisations as Fulani Muslims majority.

INTEGRITYA1:


Op is correct with the information provided. I am a Yoruba and before my NYSC, I used to think that; from Niger State to the far northern States, they are all Hausa/Fulani; I never even knew we have good numbers of people from those regions who are Christians. But after been posted to Sokoto State my orientation change, I have friends from Nasarawa, Jigawa, Benue and so on who are Christians; in fact they are ready to fight you if you keep calling them Hausas after they've corrected you over time.

this is exactly what most core-northerners don't want to hear or love to bury their head in sand for.

I've had countless friends from the north-central who doesn't like to be called hausa or linked with core-north.

Even the bikeman i carried yesterday here in lagos said he's from jos and not an arewa guy after i called him aboki and asked where he came from.

Biafrarep:
Honestly, I really pity northern Christians. They are indeed the most threatened indigenous people in the whole world today. However, they must stand courageously and speak with one voice so that the world can understand their plight and come to their rescue.

Exactly. These Hausa christians are the most timid group of people. They have refused to stand up for once for their rights and damn the consequences. Maybe they are afraid of expulsion from their ancestral Homeland, cos this could be very possible.

joyandfaith:


op is actually right. I served in north precisely Katsina state. I was able to know indigenous hausa Christians. they are mostly members of ecwa church. they are minority in north west states. they disguise as muslims. some have to go to states like Kaduna or jos for university education or employment.
on northern Christians, there are millions of them who are not hausa or fulani by tribe. they speak hausas but they are not. they were fooled ahmadu bello with his one God and one north policy. that was reason they fought against biafra during civil war but now story has changed. during my NYSC, I met few guys from plateau state, they did not want to be identified as hausas.
Ahmadu Bello dream can only come true if Muslim north will vote for a northern Christian to be a president or v.p. I am also waiting for the time when hausa/ kanuri Christians from katsina ,kano or Borno etc will be elected or appointed into key positions in government.

@jumper524. Sebi you can see and read what someone else is saying to confirm all I have been saying? I guess he is a religious bigot too according to you right?

@joyandfaith, yes you are correct. These Hausa Christians only get opportunities and feel belonged and accepted in the society when they are in Jos or Kaduna among Plateau & Southern Kaduna people.... You won't even know that they are Hausa people unless they tell you themselves. It's such a pity how religion can divide people who are the same flesh and blood so much so that Brothers become enemies and strangers become friends.

Great thread.

Just a few additions. For the man saying Berom people are oppressing other people in Plateau state, you are wrong.

Joshua Dariye was from Bokkos, if I am not mistaken.

Da'Jonah Jang was Berom, I am not sure Simon Lalong is Berom though.

Northern Christians in the far North are more likely to be quiet because of the barbaric nature of the uneducated Hausa and Fulani populace. The educated Fulanis and Hausas are the ones in charge of Nigeria.

Fulani Christians exist. And it is pertinent to always remember that Fulanis either Christian or Muslim are settlers across West Africa.

Eggon, Mada, Gyep, Berom, Ngas, Ombatse, Gbagyi, Jalla, Nupe, Igala, Tiv, Idoma, Ebira, Tarok, and hundreds of tribes exist in Central and Northern Nigeria with a significant Christian population.

jumper524:
I wasn't debunking the fact that there are several other tribes in the north or if there are hausa christians. Also there are many hausa christians in dutsu ma who are lecturers and christains.
They don't dominate cos they are minorities not because they are marginalized.
I also await the time when Igbo muslims from south east would be appointed into key govt positions or are the igbos not united?
Pls the north might have its problem but its gradually becoming a case of the past as we keep fighting against such negative actions.
What we need now is cooperation not misinterpreted and misinformed lies or rumors.

Blind stupidity.. Can you tell me how many times the Sultan and Emirs of the core north have summoned peace reconciliatory meetings and summits between Middlebelt tribes and Hausa fulanis in order to discuss the way forward?

Rather last year when Fulanis were on the receiving end and being severely dealt with by the Mambilla people in Taraba state, the Sultan came out to spit fire and brimstone threatening the entire nation against hurting the fulanis. And the funny thing was that most Mambilla people who were killing Fulanis were even muslims! ..... This clearly tells us that Fulani people and leaders put Fulani first before Islam or Arewa. .... In such a case, tell me how you expect your Imaginary United Arewa' to work?

Well, continue deceiving yourself, but like I told you the handwriting is on the wall. Most of us from Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Nasarawa, Taraba, Adamawa e.t.c are tired and no longer interested in Arewa. If you doubt me, go round the region and take a consensus.

Within your lifetime I promise you that you will see a partition of your Imaginary Arewa like what was obtained in India and so sadly, religion will be the main factor of division. Christians will go on one side and Muslims on the other side cos it is apparent that this marriage cannot work. This division has already started in many places, all that is remaining is for it to be official.
Just pray that you are not the minority where you are cos you will have to relocate to go join Hausa fulanis in Kano or Katsina.


Just for the records, Igbo muslims cannot be compared to Hausa Christians or Middlebelt Christians cos all Igbo muslims are converts from Christianity.
Islam never penetrated or gained ground in any part of Igbo land, so there are no numerous indigenous communities where Igbo muslims form a majority in Igboland.
Edo north is the only part of the SE & SS where islam penetrated and that is why despite the strong influence of christianity converting many muslims to Christians there, you still have many indigenous communities with Muslim majority there, especially the villages. So, Igbo muslims are not a reality in the real sense of it.

proudevil:
@ op....
This thread is devoid of nothing except jingosm, uneducative , senseless, and utmost trash.
Nairaland is a dumping ground for some nigeria youth where they can dump every day anger and furstration on other tribes.

North is one. And it will always be, forget the religious crises which will continue till kingdom come, forget the politics,It will continue forever.forget your middle belt dream thats just a name, they will continue to have new name for the people in that region. North is an indivisible entity. Sir ahmadu bello as laid the foundation not for the fulani domination as some cowards are claiming but for the dominace of the north.
Op you are just a bigot like the Muslims and the Christians in the North. Who is fighting for the maguzawas, the millions of northern animist and the atheist.?

Are you okay? Where in the post did the OP even insinuated that north is either not one entity or divided piece? The post is purely educative to those who do not know existence of such fundamental facts raised by OP in the post.

theenchanter:
this is exactly what most core-northerners don't want to hear or love to bury their head in sand for.

I've had countless friends from the north-central who doesn't like to be called hausa or linked with core-north.

Even the bikeman i carried yesterday here in lagos said he's from jos and not an arewa guy after i called him aboki and asked where he came from.

The typical Yorubas of kwara and kogi hate to be called northerners
The typical benue man doesn’t identify with northerners

Chibuzoc:
The same Hausa Christians that joined forces with Islamic jihadist to kill there fellow Christians from the East
I laugh in karma

With all that was written to explain the difference between Hausa Christians and Northern/Middlebelt Christians, u still don't get it? People like u are the reasons why Black people may never make it to the top of human races.

It was Northern/Middlebelt christians that had a hand in the Biafran war and not Hausa Christians who were very few in the rural areas of the Core-north.

Osaze007:



The typical Yorubas of kwara and kogi hate to be called northerners
The typical benue man doesn’t identify with northerners

but the corenortherners are bent on telling u they're a monolithic region.

I laugh in abracadabra.

MelesZenawi:


All are northerners now under Arewa consultative Forum...

It is a difficult situation.

Nah arewa is just ceremonial it has no real influence

Bazamfare:
So isn't kogi and kwarra predominantly Muslim states?

Kwara yes
Kogi no
But they identity with the larger Yoruba body in SW
Do you know since creation kwara has only had one First Lady from kwara the rest have been from South west even the current First Lady is xtain from Lagos
And Yorubas identify with culture not religion

azimo:
Hausa is dead as a race the only identification they have right now is the language left ,Fulani have conquered them next is the yoruba race although Kwara state is gone

If Hausa is conquered what will you call your own (1967)

jumper524:
lol..
I'm gbagyi, by tribe.
Even my people has had their disagreement but it still doesn't change the fact that we are united north except of course you might exclude the idomas of benue as well as yorubas of kwara..
Aside that, its a one northern and we disagree to agree.

My brother, you are wrong, am equally Gbagyi from fct, I see myself as a middle beltan, not someone from north, if indeed am from north as you claimed, the fct minister should by all means be a native of fct.

Nowenuse:


[s]With all that was written to explain the difference between Hausa Christians and Northern/Middlebelt Christians, u still don't get it? People like u are the reasons why Black people may never make it to the top of human races.

It was Northern/Middlebelt christians that had a hand in the Biafran war and not Hausa Christians who were very few in the rural areas of the Core-north.[/s]

Trash. what is the difference between Hausa and North keep deceiving yourself

Osaze007:


If Hausa is conquered what will you call your own (1967)

ohhh Biafra land is the only land made by chukwu okike abiama till today Fulani caliphate can't get in or establish Islam

azimo:
ohhh Biafra land is the only land made by chukwu okike abiama till today Fulani caliphate can't get in or establish Islam

You mean abiama they starved to submission

If that war happened in 1800s it would have been shared among all Nigerians you would have been like Kurdistan

Osaze007:


You mean abiama they starved to submission

If that war happened in 1800s it would have been shared among all Nigerians you would have been like Kurdistan

holy holy holy nnamdi kanu is another saviour

azimo:
holy holy holy nnamdi kanu is another saviour

Let him bury is mother and I will take him seriously

Nowenuse,

Thank you for this revealing and educational discussion.

Also, thank you for standing on the truth about the true state of Nigeria.

It’s sad to see grown men and women with thinking faculty always playing ostrich when it comes to Nigerian Affairs.

They say the truth shall set you free.

They also say that one seed of truth can destroy mountains of lies.

Lalasticlala, this thread deserves to be on front page.

Osaze007:


Let him bury is mother and I will take him seriously

u won't take that u are unemployed serious

Bazamfare:
Lol.. just listen this fool!! And ur parents will think they have sent you to school!! I'm not surprised that since u were exposed as 5% in population, you have been desperately trying to attach urself by force with the SS to increase ur numbers, while bringing others down!!

There is nothing like kafanchan and southern Borno in the constitution, but Borno and Kaduna state.. all these places are governed by the overall laws and regulation governing the region, since its a majority hausa/fulani/Muslim states, we have the right to have an emir in every nook and cranny we feel like and there us nothing anybody can do about it!!

You can claim Muslims are merely 20% in the northfor all we care, but that won't change reality on ground!!! For those that get their information from RadioBiafra, I don't expect much

So are you saying that the past & present governors of Plateau, Nasarawa & Taraba had the right the abolish the Muri, Wase, Lafia and other Emirates in the region?
Or Yakowa & Boni Haruna had the rights to abolish Zaria & Yola Emirates when they were the governors and enforce traditional chiefdoms in those areas? Is that what you are saying?

Why don't you also say Nigeria is Nigeria and there is nothing like Southern Nigeria and that Buhari has the right to abolish all the traditional institutions of Southern Nigeria and establish Emirates there?

Can you listen to yourself and see the level of your stupidity?

Does anyone even know there are Muslims in SE and SS. They have been seriously marginalized. It's only northerners own you people will be crying about everyday!!!

Nowenuse:


So are you saying that the past & present governors of Plateau, Nasarawa & Taraba had the right the abolish the Muri, Wase, Lafia and other Emirates in the region?
Or Yakowa & Boni Haruna had the rights to abolish Zaria & Yola Emirates when they were the governors and enforce traditional chiefdoms in those areas? Is that what you are saying?

Why don't you also say Nigeria is Nigeria and there is nothing like Southern Nigeria and that Buhari has the right to abolish all the traditional institutions of Southern Nigeria and establish Emirates there?

Can you listen to yourself and see the level of your stupidity?

His stupidity knows no bound my brother...!
In the wake of Sharia crisis of February 2000, people like him are those we joyfully used their body parts to feed hungry Pigs in the streets of Kachia in Kaduna state.
Today Kachia is Adara Chiefdom not Emirate or Sarki over 90% of Christians as it was before the war.

He talks like he owns everyone in Nigeria. Let him Come to SS and impose any Emir and see if we don't roast him in minutes. Even Otaru of Auch knows his boundaries when religion matters arise in Edo.

0monnak0da:
Not every "indigenous" Hausa whether Muslim or Christian is Hausa

Many come from a population of slaves from God knows where who were freed in Hausa territory when the slave trade ended

Agreed with you on this, the Hausa/Fulanis took some slaves in the Middle Belt and Southern part of Nigeria.

I will contribute much to this thread soon

murphyibiam15:

Shut up you this Edo Muslim boy, actually by nature Edo isn't even originally part of SS, you're more like north Central partially and the other half as Afonja...Edo doesn't even have more than 1 cup of oil.. who's now feeding who, but Almost all the states in east are oil producing

Edo State gave birth to south south, part of south west and part of south east.

Nowenuse:


Exactly. These Hausa christians are the most timid group of people. They have refused to stand up for once for their rights and damn the consequences. Maybe they are afraid of expulsion from their ancestral Homeland, cos this could be very possible.

Nowenuse can you please do a thread for us on the difference between Emir and normal monarchy in African settings?

Lots of Southerners don't know that an Emir is equivalent of BISHOP in Islam. An Emir is a religion title that oversees strictly Muslims

Again. A thread for Northerners to iron out their issues, yet Ndiigbo found away to drag Igbos into it?

What sort of busy body is this? Why must we involve ourselves in issues we have nothing to do with.
Why must we stupidly always present ourselves for groups who don't love themselves but who easily see us as common shared enemy to use as a rallying point of unity.

Biko let's stay off this thread. Oburo ebe obuna aku "kpo kpo" unu atuchalu ukwu gawa.