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The topic here is an attempt to clear my head and get answers from well knowledged individuals concerning the foreknowledge of God.............. Does God know everything...... Our every definite decisions.......our choices by will....... Did he know everything happening now will happen from the beginning......... Okay when he was creating the angels did he know one was going to rebel........ Did he know for certain the choice the couple in the garden would make.......... Please I need some answers......doesnt the way God's foreknowledge is described by Christians go against the idea of free will.............

I don't know please somebody help me get it to fp

Nope ,not in the least
He couldn't even save the Jews (his own people) during the Jews genocide Na you ,a Nigerian him go Kon reason?

This sums it up...

abeeee:
The topic here is an attempt to clear my head and get answers from well knowledged individuals concerning the foreknowledge of God.............. Does God know everything...... Our every definite decisions.......our choices by will....... Did he know everything happening now will happen from the beginning......... Okay when he was creating the angels did he know one was going to rebel........ Did he know for certain the choice the couple in the garden would make.......... Please I need some answers......doesnt the way God's foreknowledge is described by Christians go against the idea of free will.............

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If you're a Christian, then only God the Father is omniscient but not the Son and Spirit.

abeeee:
The topic here is an attempt to clear my head and get answers from well knowledged individuals concerning the foreknowledge of God.............. Does God know everything...... Our every definite decisions.......our choices by will....... Did he know everything happening now will happen from the beginning......... Okay when he was creating the angels did he know one was going to rebel........ Did he know for certain the choice the couple in the garden would make.......... Please I need some answers......doesnt the way God's foreknowledge is described by Christians go against the idea of free will.............

He used the Bible to introduce and educate us about
©Himself
©His intended purpose for creation
©How his plans was thwarted by intelligent creatures he made
©What he planned to do about those rebels
©What we're going to have when everything is resolved

He has fully equipped humble humans who avail themselves for wisdom and dispatched them as his WITNESSES to all the corners of the earth!

They often come to visit you because they're in your neighborhood. All you need is to avail yourself for to learn about him from his WITNESSES!

But before then let me answer one out of your questions!

God clearly made us understand that "He did everything out of love, he is holy and according to the word "HOLY" which means "PURE"
He doesn't doubt or think of evil at all.

So he never claim to be a know all since he gives no thought of evil but only good things! Jeremiah 7:31, Habakkuk 1:13

After creating so many intelligent spirit beings (angels) in heaven (spirit realm), he created the earth, filled it with lots of creatures and made a pair intelligent fleshy creature to RULE over the earth, that's the Genesis of all these problems!

Some of the powerful unseen intelligent beings in heaven feels slighted for not given the privilege to RULE the earth since they're much more intelligent and powerful than humans, one of them challenged God's intellect for making such a decision, God gave him the chance to try and see if he could RULE fleshly creatures successfully, the spirit succeeded in making the first human couple join him in the rebellion and ever since then the earth has been in chaos!

So God is now gathering OBEDIENT humans under the lordship of another mighty spirit being (a submissive one), equipped him to RULE and using his active force (holy spirit) to ORGANIZE people from all the nations under the heavens to become subjects of this mighty spirit son of God. One big happy family of peace loving worshippers!

They're known as Jehovah's Witnesses.

Thanks!

Maximus69:
He used the Bible to introduce and educate us about
©Himself
©His intended purpose for creation
©How his plans was thwarted by intelligent creatures he made
©What he planned to do about those rebels
©What we're going to have when everything is resolved

He has fully equipped humble humans who avail themselves for wisdom and dispatched them as his WITNESSES to all the corners of the earth!

They often come to visit you because they're in your neighborhood. All you need is to avail yourself for to learn about him from his WITNESSES!

But before then let me answer one out of your questions!

God clearly made us understand that "He did everything out of love, he is holy and according to the word "HOLY" which means "PURE"
He doesn't doubt or think of evil at all.

So he never claim to be a know all since he gives no thought of evil but only good things! Jeremiah 7:31, Habakkuk 1:13

After creating so many intelligent spirit beings (angels) in heaven (spirit realm), he created the earth, filled it with lots of creatures and made a pair intelligent fleshy creature to RULE over the earth, that's the Genesis of all these problems!

Some of the powerful unseen intelligent beings in heaven feels slighted for not given the privilege to RULE the earth since they're much more intelligent and powerful than humans, one of them challenged God's intellect for making such a decision, God gave him the chance to try and see if he could RULE fleshly creatures successfully, the spirit succeeded in making the first human couple join him in the rebellion and ever since then the earth has been in chaos!

So God is now gathering OBEDIENT humans under the lordship of another mighty spirit being (a submissive one), equipped him to RULE and using his active force (holy spirit) to ORGANIZE people from all the nations under the heavens to become subjects of this mighty spirit son of God. One big happy family of peace loving worshippers!

They're known as Jehovah's Witnesses.

Thanks!

You didnt give an answer to my question......... What I asked was about the fore knowledge of God........did he know(from even the creation of these powerful beings you spoke about) that they or he would rebel and lead to the couple falling in Eden....... Did he know that it would lead to all the sufferings we have today and yet he allowed it........ I am not asking about any other thing just his foreknowledge........answer these first and we can continue

abeeee:
You didnt give an answer to my question......... What I asked was about the fore knowledge of God........did he know(from even the creation of these powerful beings you spoke about) that they or he would rebel and lead to the couple falling in Eden....... Did he know that it would lead to all the sufferings we have today and yet he allowed it........ I am not asking about any other thing just his foreknowledge........answer these first and we can continue

NO He didn't!

abeeee:
Does God know everything

how can anyone on earth knows if God knows everything is he God himself?
Until it specified in scriptures that God is all knowing no one can say he is all knowing.
Also, until it specified in scriptures that God does not know everything no one can say that God does not know everything.
So we are all blank in that aspect, no answers.

...... Our every definite decisions

even if God does not know our definite decisions, he always know the outcome of very step we take towards actualizing our decisions.
God is more like a father who knows that if a child jump from a height certainly he is going to get injured which is karma. But whether the child has decided to jump that is his own decision. He may know about the decision he may not know about it, whatever is the state of his knowledge, no one can probe and give answers. Infact we are not to probe what is on people's mind.
Can you read anyone's mind?

Did he know everything happening now will happen from the beginning

no one have answers to these questions.
All we know is, what is happening now is the outcome of what has happened in the beginning.

......... Okay when he was creating the angels did he know one was going to rebel

whether he knows or not no one can tell.
But we know that any angel can decide to be rebel that is his choice. So he gives the free will for his creations to decide for themselves.

paxonel:
how can anyone on earth knows if God knows everything is he God himself?
Until it specified in scriptures that God is all knowing no one can say he is all knowing.
Also, until it specified in scriptures that God does not know everything no one can say that God does not know everything.
So we are all blank in that aspect, no answers.
even if God does not know our definite decisions, he always know the outcome of very step we take towards actualizing our decisions.
God is more like a father who knows that if a child jump from a height certainly he is going to get injured which is karma. But whether the child has decided to jump that is his own decision. He may know about the decision he may not know about it, whatever is the state of his knowledge, no one can probe and give answers. Infact we are not to probe what is on people's mind.
Can you read anyone's mind?
no one have answers to these questions.
All we know is, what is happening now is the outcome of what has happened in the beginning.
whether he knows or not no one can tell.
But we know that any angel can decide to be rebel that is his choice. So he gives the free will for his creations to decide for themselves.

What you said does not answer anything I mean why won't I want to know or rather why won't you .........i mean you make decisions in your life everyday......you get tempted as supposed being a Christian so are you seriously telling me you don't wonder....... Are you saying that you don't see the evils in this world or the persons who are supposed to rot in hell......dont you wonder about a possible avertion......i mean for a very powerful and perfect God.......why dont you wonder about his foreknowledge I mean........
......and concerning your it not being scriptural....... I will answer you soon because I am sure real stuanch Christians won't agree with you......... So bro if you are ready to answer my questions you should mention me

abeeee:
What you said does not answer anything I mean why won't I want to know or rather why won't

no one can possibly know everything, even a judge handling a case in a court of law does not know everything so he based his judgement on the possible evidence presented to him.

you .........i mean you make decisions in your life everyday......you get tempted as supposed being a Christian so are you seriously telling me you don't wonder....... Are you saying that you don't see the evils in this world or the persons who are supposed to rot in hell......dont you wonder about a possible avertion......i mean for a very powerful and perfect God.......why dont you wonder about his foreknowledge I mean........

oh! You mean he should his powers and perfection to avert evil?
I think that will negate his original plan of creating mankind which is, mankind should replenish the earth himself and not God using his supernatural powers to do so.

Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth,....

......and concerning your it not being scriptural....... I will answer you soon because I am sure real stuanch Christians won't agree with you.........

ok

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paxonel:
no one can possibly know everything, even a judge handling a case in a court of law does not know everything so he based his judgement on the possible evidence presented to him.
oh! You mean he should his powers and perfection to avert evil?
I think that will negate his original plan of creating mankind which is, mankind should replenish the earth himself and not God using his supernatural powers to do so.

Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth,....
ok

Understand me........ I didn't necessarily say he should use it........ I said if he is perfect and omnipotent then he should be all knowing.........so therefore all these billions of persons who will be in hell or be destroyed forever won't that be painful to an all loving father won't it be better it never happened......... And you said in Genesis God blessed them and asked them to replenish the earth.......did he know at that point that they will sin answer that please and stop digressing did he know is the issue not if he can stop it or not......or if he could replenish the earth and yet asked the couples to........ The question is his foreknowledge did he know If you don't have an answer to it then stop quoting me the thread is not to seek attention so please I need a straight answer.......... You said no one can possibly know everything do you mean God or yourself so that I may know how or if I will keep replying you.......