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Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by Sprumbaba: 9:36pm On Jan 16, 2020
EnkayDezign4:


Lowest unemployment figures that are being reported from the last 10 years. Every smart person knows the US economy is suffering right now with all the tarrifs (which are being paid for by US consumers btw) that's making manufacturing expensive. So many companies are closing or relocating out of the US. Or is it the "best economy" that the rich have been given tax breaks in billions of dollars that will only profit the president and his cronies?

America is fcked if they elect Trump for a 2nd term

You are so uneducated. I am a business owner in the US and I benefited from Trump tax. Tax was not for the wealthy alone. It benefits businesses.

You lied again as the US economy lost 3 millions job 10 to 11 years ago. I was part of it and I got laid off as well.

Moreover, never state anything you have no knowledge about. Over 60,000 manufacturing companies moved to the US since Trump presidency.

Educate yourself grin grin
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by Malcolm123: 9:39pm On Jan 16, 2020
APOSTLECHUMA:
REJECTION OF TRUMP'S DEAL GIVES ISRAEL THE OPPORTUNITY OF BLOWING UP ALL THE NUCLEAR SITES IN IRAN..

Oga israel cannot singlehandedly bomb those facilities successfully ....u think it is dat easy to bomb bunkers under rock ....u will need special grade of weapon lyk tipping ur warhead with waste uranium ....
israel bomber is not dat special air defense go pick am .....for mission lyk dat u will need america stealth b2 bomber .....the enrichment facilities how many do you think Iran have

if it is dat easy why negotiating every now and then
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by Righteousness89(m): 9:40pm On Jan 16, 2020
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Quelme:
Iran's assets were first frozen by U.S. president

Jimmy Carter in 1979, after revolutionaries
overthrew the U.S.-allied Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi 's administration and took American hostages. After the Iranian Revolution in 1979, the United States ended its economic and diplomatic ties with Iran, banned Iranian oil imports and froze approximately 11 billion 1980-US dollars of its assets.

Many of the assets were then unfrozen in 1981 after the Algiers Accords were signed and the hostage crisis. At the time of the 1979 revolution, the Pentagon re-sold some $400 million in Iranian military equipment already paid for by the deposed government, and the money was "placed in an escrow account".

Much of the frozen cash includes Iran's income from selling a limited amount of oil prior to the lifting of the sanctions, when Iran could legally sell oil but could not transfer the money back to Iran, because doing so was illegal under U.S. sanctions.

THE FACTS:

When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. There was no $150 billion gift from the U.S. treasury or other countries. Iran was allowed to get its money back.

The $1.8 billion refers to a separate matter, also misstated by the president going back to before the 2016 election.

A payout of roughly that amount did come from the U.S. treasury. It was to pay an old IOU.
In the 1970s, Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was overthrown and diplomatic relations ruptured. After the nuclear deal, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the matter, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest.

The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later.


Shows you know nothing about the nuclear deal.


EOD!!!!!
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Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by jameslojohn(m): 9:41pm On Jan 16, 2020
chewwie:

Please say what you know. Obama's deal involved handing Iran $130bn and $1.8bn in CASH! with which they used to fund terrorism all around the Middle East, Africa (Boko Haram) and Europe. And it was to be renegotiated in 10 years.
Trump left the deal and crippled their economy with sanctions, their currency is now of zero value, nobody buys their oil, Trump has all the aces and he's about to impose more sanctions on Iran.
DON'T LET YOUR HATRED FOR TRUMP BLIND YOU FROM THE FACTS!
What will it take for someone to just research common fact online western media who are at the mercy of western government monopoly anything there said you just believe without checking fact and what the western media will not tell you is that the majority of world problem today was created by them the western government's to hinder the development of others to make them dependent on western countries for visual everything.
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by Malcolm123: 9:47pm On Jan 16, 2020
sunnyeinstein:


I know sir, and thanks if you think its rubbish.
My point is that Obama could have placed conditions such as "if you do not enrich your uranium core for 3-5yrs and also give us this or that, then we'd release maybe $10b, and then if you do this we'd release that... you grab? That's why I think Obama and his negotiation team did not play hard enough. Thank you uncle

Maybe u should go and read d history of Persia
na pikin dey negotiate deal ?? if you do dis I will give u sweet ..lol
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by Malcolm123: 9:54pm On Jan 16, 2020
Righteousness89:

What u don't know you don't know!

Obama Gave out $150 billion cash to Iran..

That's the money being used by Iran in its nuclear and terrorist activities ..

The deal Obama made was a deal that could have crippled the USA ..

You don't advance your Enemies


you ar right ....Obama borrowed $150billion from IMF to give Iran so dat dey can build army to destroy america

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Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by Blindersoff: 9:57pm On Jan 16, 2020
Malcolm123:



you ar right ....Obama borrowed $150billion from IMF to give Iran so dat dey can build army to destroy america

You have time to respond to that Unrighteous liar

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Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by EnkayDezign4: 10:00pm On Jan 16, 2020
Sprumbaba:


You are so uneducated. I am a business owner in the US and I benefited from Trump tax. Tax was not for the wealthy alone. It benefits businesses.

You lied again as the US economy lost 3 millions job 10 to 11 years ago. I was part of it and I got laid off as well.

Moreover, never state anything you have no knowledge about. Over 60,000 manufacturing companies moved to the US since Trump presidency.

Educate yourself grin grin

Chai oga why the lies?. Which 60,000 manufacturing companies came to the US under trump? When in fact the US has lost appr. 60,000 factories in the last decade (mind you they're never coming back not even Trump can bring them back). Also the 3 million jobs that were lost 10 to 11 years ago was right after George Bush's reckless tenure when America entered into a recession. Now we know how Obama famously bailed out the banks and auto industry then. THAT is largely the reason for America's blossoming economy till date and not stupid Trump and his stupid policies of regression.

Anyone who understands Anerica's politics and it's 2 party system will understand that Republican Govt's always ruin the economy (Mostly by funding costly wars) and leave it to Democratic Govt's to fix. That's exactly the same script if not worse that is playing out with Trumps republican govt. Government of zombies.

See unlike you i'll back up my claims with some sources. So readers will understand how much BS trump and his supporters always spread.

https://qz.com/851531/manufacturing-jobs-the-us-is-losing-factory-jobs-faster-than-trump-can-save-them/

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/mar/24/donald-trump/trump-china-joined-wto-us-has-lost-60000-factories/

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Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by 21cents: 10:09pm On Jan 16, 2020
Malcolm123:



you ar right ....Obama borrowed $150billion from IMF to give Iran so dat dey can build army to destroy america
LoL.. pls don't waste your time replying that one abeg. he derives joy fooling his followers with false propaganda on NL.

...gave out $150billion dollars to Iran. grin

it's like saying Cameroon government dashed Nigerian govt $150billion. based on say Cameroon na father Christmas and all her citizens are on Forbes list grin
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by shomutuski(m): 10:09pm On Jan 16, 2020
sunnyeinstein:


I know sir, and thanks if you think its rubbish.
My point is that Obama could have placed conditions such as "if you do not enrich your uranium core for 3-5yrs and also give us this or that, then we'd release maybe $10b, and then if you do this we'd release that... you grab? That's why I think Obama and his negotiation team did not play hard enough. Thank you uncle


Your point no get point.
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by Crayfish09: 10:14pm On Jan 16, 2020
sunnyeinstein:


No mind them Jere, how Obama gave $150b to Iran and got away with it in congress still baffles me... Like was everyone blind when he opened the access gates for Iran? Crazy putting money in the hands of a nation who's stock-in-trade is sponsoring terrorist groups in other countries surrounding it.
Someone just had to pull the deal down (the Europeans always knew) its just not pleasing to them that its an annoying (to them, the best to me) Trump that shredded and trashed it.
Make the Trump deal or you keep your country under perpetual penury due to sanctions.

Honestly there are too many people with empty skulls on this forum. Obama didn't give them money from tax payers. The money actually belonged to Iran before it was seized by usa. Is this how you move about displaying your stupidity and ignorance?

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Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by shomutuski(m): 10:15pm On Jan 16, 2020
echelons:


The deal was a disappointment, and in truth, a disaster.

Who signs a deal that has 5-year bound, US sent $150B, $1.5B in cash to Iran.

The deal practically financed terrorism in Iran, yet after 5 years they can continue Uranium enrichment.

Obama had to sign the rubbish so he could have stability, rather than being bold and nipping the cancer in the bud.

Trump had to do what he had to do. You can't treat a terrorist nation with kids gloves.

All the European allies have understood this. China will not even be bothered as usual, Russia will milk Iran further before abandoning them too.

Nobody wants a radical holding nuclear weapons!


By definition Kim jon un is a radical leader and he has a nuclear weapon. No one is doing shvit to him. Y'all don't know nothing about politics of power. It has never been about countries only interests.
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by 21cents: 10:17pm On Jan 16, 2020
Crayfish09:


Honestly there are too many people with empty skulls on this forum. Obama didn't give them money from tax payers. The money actually belonged to Iran before it was seized by usa. Is this how you move about displaying your stupidity and ignorance?


LOL.. bros don't try too hard to educate sworn ignorant fools. leddem keep living in euphoria of their foolishness grin

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Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by shomutuski(m): 10:19pm On Jan 16, 2020
EnkayDezign4:


Oga must you talk? even when you're obviously ignorant of the facts. smh


Trump is breaking all the rules to achieve selfish goals. How dumb could people be in supporting trumps sanctioning of Iran for sponsoring terrorism when on the other hand he's doing business with the worlds largest sponsor of terrorism (Saudi)?

Even his former defense secretary (all the sensible people in his admin. have resigned) said the deal was working, all the other 5 countries that were in the deal also agreed it worked. So why do you idiots think your glorified mistake of a president knows better?

Broo most people here are just adding Hatred to this issue. I'm amazed at how many nairalander have become political analyst overnight claiming they know shvt. Obviously most are not aware that this issue has been around for long.

It's a very complex one btw saudi who wants to stifle Iran's influence in the middle east cus iran is of a different faith. Usa are more or less saudi dog in all of it. It's a war interest.

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Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by tck2000(m): 10:20pm On Jan 16, 2020
tartar9:
America and bullying.
Obama's deal was very ok.I guess the next US president after Trump will also want his new deal.
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by Crayfish09: 10:26pm On Jan 16, 2020
21cents:


LOL.. bros don't try too hard to educate sworn ignorant fools. leddem keep living in euphoria of their foolishness grin

Honestly those idiots can be annoying. All because they think America is representing Christianity (in their dumb and naive minds)

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Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by echelons(m): 10:41pm On Jan 16, 2020
shomutuski:



By definition Kim jon un is a radical leader and he has a nuclear weapon. No one is doing shvit to him. Y'all don't know nothing about politics of power. It has never been about countries only interests.

North Korea may have tested some nuclear weapons, but do not really have nuclear reactors.

Sanctions upon sanctions are on against them anyway, so it's almost useless.

Who would you really prefer a nuclear weapon to be in his control? Khameni's Iran or Kim's NK?

If you can honestly answer this question, you'll definitely see the reason Iran will never be allowed to have a NW.
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by Nobody: 10:45pm On Jan 16, 2020
Dis OP will just die off on Trump's matter....continue grin grin
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by gregyboy(m): 11:08pm On Jan 16, 2020
golddust6000:
Can someone pls tell me why do America and Eu has nuclear and they don’t want other country to have?


Nigga be glad ...

Give boko boys or even fulani people right to guns and watch them raid Nigeria...

I guess you can find your answer on my comment

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Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by EnkayDezign4: 11:24pm On Jan 16, 2020
shomutuski:


Broo most people here are just adding Hatred to this issue. I'm amazed at how many nairalander have become political analyst overnight claiming they know shvt. Obviously most are not aware that this issue has been around for long.

It's a very complex one btw saudi who wants to stifle Iran's influence in the middle east cus iran is of a different faith. Usa are more or less saudi dog in all of it. It's a war interest.

Exactly my brother. Nigerians only support based on their religious bias, as always. smh

Iran contributes many more well meaning/intellectual individuals to the world than Saudi ever does. Take away their theocratic govt and they're very good people. Saudi on the other hand is doing jack shit for the world other than oppressing its poor citizens/neighbors, selling oil, and promoting Islam.
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by shiwex: 11:30pm On Jan 16, 2020
Righteousness89:
Trump deal is the Deal of the century..

The Trump deal is the deal that will bring Relative peace to the Middle East..

Nuclear Weapons in the Hands of Iran is Extremely Dangerous for the World...

The Downing of the Ukraine Plane will definitely bring about more Sanctions..



Nuclear Weapons in the Hands of Iran is Extremely Dangerous for the World...


but its safe in the hands of the Americans.....fool

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Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by EnkayDezign4: 11:33pm On Jan 16, 2020
Sprumbaba:


You are so uneducated. I am a business owner in the US and I benefited from Trump tax. Tax was not for the wealthy alone. It benefits businesses.

You lied again as the US economy lost 3 millions job 10 to 11 years ago. I was part of it and I got laid off as well.

Moreover, never state anything you have no knowledge about. Over 60,000 manufacturing companies moved to the US since Trump presidency.

Educate yourself grin grin

Also if we're talking about tax cuts i'll just refer readers to the deluge of Articles from economists and political writers who have reported on the real effect of it on Americans. You're not well for supporting such blatant corruption

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/20/perspectives/trump-tax-cuts/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/30/business/trump-tax-cuts-beat-gilti.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-gop-tax-cuts-economic-gdp-business-investment-failure-2020-1

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-01-01/donald-trump-tax-cut-deficit

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/michael-bloomberg-slams-donald-trump-tax-cuts-economic-record-2020-1-1028808714

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-16/trump-tax-cut-hands-32-billion-windfall-to-america-s-top-banks

Whoever cares to read should please enlighten themselves about the truth.

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Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by LOMBARDY(m): 11:46pm On Jan 16, 2020
awoo47:
trump is a business man who brokered deal all his life
he's a master of that
Obama on the other hand has no idea of deals

So are u telling me u knw more abt business than Trump? he's worth $5bn nd survived bankruptcy in 1990s
that's why boris stated Trump is good at dealings

i mean look at China
Stop being biased
No president stood up to China nd when trump started with dem, dem mellow

Shebi ppl were saying they will chase Apple away
that is tantamount to biting ur own fingers cool

How do you know Obama has no business ideas? because you love Trump doesn't mean Obama was stupid
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by somehow: 12:20am On Jan 17, 2020
Yet he filed for bankrupcy multiple times. A cunny business man he has always been. Read up his business biography oga.
awoo47:
trump is a business man who brokered deal all his life
he's a master of that
Obama on the other hand has no idea of deals

So are u telling me u knw more abt business than Trump? he's worth $5bn nd survived bankruptcy in 1990s
that's why boris stated Trump is good at dealings

i mean look at China
Stop being biased
No president stood up to China nd when trump started with dem, dem mellow

Shebi ppl were saying they will chase Apple away
that is tantamount to biting ur own fingers cool
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by somehow: 12:25am On Jan 17, 2020
Can you stop repeating this rubbish or are you immune to truth and correction?
So if you kept money in my house and because we had a quarrel, you decided to not let me have access to it, but later after some conditions have been met decided to release part of my money to me, that means you are dashing me or giving me money?

Please stop making the world think this is how dump most Nigerians are!

Righteousness89:

What u don't know you don't know!

Obama Gave out $150 billion cash to Iran..

That's the money being used by Iran in its nuclear and terrorist activities ..

The deal Obama made was a deal that could have crippled the USA ..

You don't advance your Enemies
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by somehow: 12:27am On Jan 17, 2020
I tire o.
The only country in the world out of cowardize used such weapon on another country when the rest of the world were fighting on a level playing ground yet some foools think the world is safe in such a hand!

shiwex:

Nuclear Weapons in the Hands of Iran is Extremely Dangerous for the World...


but its safe in the hands of the Americans.....fool
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by grandstar(m): 1:16am On Jan 17, 2020
Blindersoff:
I saw this coming when Trump broke the deal originally signed and thus placing power of negotiation in the hands of Iran and no longer in US hands. The guy goofed

The power of negotiation is not in Iran's hands. Neverthless, Trumps breaking the deal was extremely irresponsible

He did it plainly to pleass the Israelis and the rich Gulf Arab states who are Sunni led . He also scores point with Jewish Americans and Pentecostal Christians

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Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by chewwie(m): 5:21am On Jan 17, 2020
EnkayDezign4:


All thanks to Trump abi? Ode
No, all thanks to Buhari. We have a failing economy in Nigeria, you blame Buhari, they have a booming economy in the USA and you can't credit Trump and you aren't biased.
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by chewwie(m): 5:22am On Jan 17, 2020
jameslojohn:
What will it take for someone to just research common fact online western media who are at the mercy of western government monopoly anything there said you just believe without checking fact and what the western media will not tell you is that the majority of world problem today was created by them the western government's to hinder the development of others to make them dependent on western countries for visual everything.
Please educate me on the JCPOA.
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by chewwie(m): 5:23am On Jan 17, 2020
somehow:
I tire o.
The only country in the world out of cowardize used such weapon on another country when the rest of the world were fighting on a level playing ground yet some foools think the world is safe in such a hand!

Japan happened to have been biting more than they could chew, served them right.
Re: Iran Rejects Uk's Call For 'trump Deal' To Replace Nuclear Accord by chewwie(m): 5:30am On Jan 17, 2020
EnkayDezign4:


Oga must you talk? even when you're obviously ignorant of the facts. smh


Trump is breaking all the rules to achieve selfish goals. How dumb could people be in supporting trumps sanctioning of Iran for sponsoring terrorism when on the other hand he's doing business with the worlds largest sponsor of terrorism (Saudi)?

Even his former defense secretary (all the sensible people in his admin. have resigned) said the deal was working, all the other 5 countries that were in the deal also agreed it worked. So why do you idiots think your glorified mistake of a president knows better?
1. Did you know the contents of Obama's Iran nuclear deal? I guess not.
2. What would Trump possibly gain from starting a conflict with Iran? Saudi Arabia is America's greatest Islamic ally, and they don't sponsor terrorism. Who the hell told you that?
3. John Bolton? The rat who wanted another war in the Middle East at all cost? Do you even know anything about American politics? Bolton wanted Trump to bomb Iran since 2017, Trump had to fire him.

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