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Re: No Problem If Power Shifts To South-east In 2023 – Gowon by Ritchiee: 3:21pm On Jan 18, 2020
BuhariLooter:
If you want to form a new police because buharis police has failed abysmally, what are the reasons behind your vociferous support for his candidacy?? Why will you impose an incompetent administrative bimbo on the rest of us while cunningly trying hard to extricate yourself from his mal-administration by forming parallel government institutions Afonja.., Must you be treacherous
OSU ojukwu wailing.
Re: No Problem If Power Shifts To South-east In 2023 – Gowon by Ritchiee: 3:23pm On Jan 18, 2020
PreciousJuice:
Southwest shouldn't get carried away with the political atmosphere of the nation, because I have seen reports of leaders from the region saying they don't want presidency at the expense of amotekun, but take a critical assessment of the said amotekun, it lacks federal govt backing, lacks constitution backing, declared illegal by AGF and minister of justice, prohibited by IGP to bear sophisticated arms and considering that different political parties are governing southwest states, the amotekun can not be sustained, it is dead on arrival, BUT now talks have started on whether southeast is better suited for presidency , I hope our southwestern leaders think well about their actions and find better way to resolve the whole issue of 2023 presidency and amotekun... We southwesterners have being actively involved in this govt since inception, we have put in so much work can't just let the presidency go to another region based on ethnic and tribal differences. We( southwest) have right to the presidency by 2023 because we worked and did our homework, may good thing not pass us by ( amen).
We want safety before presidency.Amotekun stays.
Re: No Problem If Power Shifts To South-east In 2023 – Gowon by Ritchiee: 3:27pm On Jan 18, 2020
Emmanuelhector:
This one everybody started to consider us for presidency just to reset the brain of our greedy ajonja brothers... But all we know is that Amotekun must stay
Amotekun stays. wink
Re: No Problem If Power Shifts To South-east In 2023 – Gowon by Nobody:
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Re: No Problem If Power Shifts To South-east In 2023 – Gowon by Ritchiee: 3:32pm On Jan 18, 2020
FrLukas:
So you want the presidency just to give legal backing to a security outfit.

You aren't a good strategist are you? Do you play chess? Probably not.

The Executive is only one of three arms of government.

Malami can not proscribe Amotekun. He is not the Law. That's a fact. The way it was setup make it very legal. Even more legal than their own creature, Hisbah, up North.

You probably aren't aware that there is an intelligent outfit behind every move being made so far. The mind every move.

Did you know how effective the OPC was in curbing armed robbery in Yorubaland? If you did you won't be wondering how effective Amotekun will be.

You are yet to tell us the benefits of a Yoruba presidency apart from legalizing an already legal organization.

Keep feeding the lies that some governors are arming the outfit for their own political gain.

Take a head count of all the governors that have bought into it and you'll realize that the cut across the two major political parties.

Naysayer. The operation hasn't even kicked off and they are praying it dies.

I'm sure you are happy the way Fulani herdsmen are killing and raping and maiming fellow citizens.

Maybe you are Fulani man yourself. I have just one message for y'all:

The presidency can burn if it likes, Yorubas will keep Amotekun alive, and Amotekun will keep Yorubas alive.
That guy is a Fulani man.Amotekun is a safety initiative that 99.9% of Yorubas home and abroad support. Amotekun stays.
Re: No Problem If Power Shifts To South-east In 2023 – Gowon by Nobody: 3:34pm On Jan 18, 2020
Ritchiee:
That guy is a Fulani man.Amotekun is a safety initiative that 99.9% of Yorubas home and abroad support. Amotekun stays.
Of course.

I wish they can be bold enough to sack all the Fulani herdsmen immediately from Yorubaland.

Whoever wants to pee their pants should do so right now.
Re: No Problem If Power Shifts To South-east In 2023 – Gowon by Ritchiee: 3:37pm On Jan 18, 2020
PreciousJuice:
1. Amotekun will have the executive, political and legal backing it lacked thereby making it sustainable
2. West will automatically be favored both economically and in power sharing
3. The west will have enough resources, time and confidence to go back to drawing board and forge a better, stronger and UNITED region that is inclusive of the masses, every royal, political and religious leaders in the region which is essential if we're not to be marginalized.
A bird in hand is worth more than billions in the bush.
Amotekun is present tense while presidency is ......
Re: No Problem If Power Shifts To South-east In 2023 – Gowon by Ritchiee: 3:44pm On Jan 18, 2020
FrLukas:
Of course.

I wish they can be bold enough to sack all the Fulani herdsmen immediately from Yorubaland.

Whoever wants to pee their pants should do so right now.
You know that we Yorubas are diplomatic.
We do not hate Fulanis,Hausas or Igbos but recent actions and utterances of the Fulanis show that they have some ulterior motives.

We wait for their next step before determining that.Watch is being kept.
Re: No Problem If Power Shifts To South-east In 2023 – Gowon by Nobody: 3:54pm On Jan 18, 2020
PreciousJuice:
1. Amotekun will have the executive, political and legal backing it lacked thereby making it sustainable
2. West will automatically be favored both economically and in power sharing
3. The west will have enough resources, time and confidence to go back to drawing board and forge a better, stronger and UNITED region that is inclusive of the masses, every royal, political and religious leaders in the region which is essential if we're not to be marginalized.
Point one.

You don't know how democracy works. Amotekun already has legal backing as it isn't breaking any known laws. The governors are the chief security officers of their states and they've repeatedly said they aren't forming state police. Besides ask a lawyer about the power of precedence when you're arguing in front of a judge.

As for political backing, what other backing is needed? The governors of the states back it. Even governors of other states from both south and north admire the initiative.
The royal leaders in the west back it wholeheartedly, and the people love it.

The only people screaming so far are the Miyetti terrorists.


Point Two.

You probably aren't a Nigerian. I couldn't help but lol at this.

How much economic gain did the Niger Delta get from Jonathan?

How much economic gain did Yorubas get from Obasanjo's 8 year rule?

How much economic gain has the north gotten from its over 30-something year rule of Nigeria? Aren't they they most backwards?

You thinking that economic gain will come to Yorubaland shows naïveté on your part. First, what's the president going to do? Bring all the projects to Yorubaland? You are aware that there's also a legislative and a judiciary arm of government, right?

Second, whatever economic gain that comes the way of the west is immediately wiped off by the migration of millions into the west to struggle for the gain. So, where does that leave us? An overcrowded region struggling for resources with others who have left their region while battling with filth and infrastructure decay as a result of overpopulation.


Point Three.

"The west will have enough resources, time and confidence..."

Wrong. They won't. You know why? Resources can never be enough. Even America doesn't have enough resources otherwise they won't be in such debts that they are today.

Time. There's always a fixed time in the day. It depends on how you plan your time. If the west can't use its available resources and time well now, what makes you think it will suddenly be able to because a Yoruba man is sitting in Aso rock, surrounded as usual by sycophants?

Confidence?

History shows that Yorubas do well when they are in opposition. In fact the only time Yorubaland witnessed unprecedented growth, pa Awo's party was in opposition. Confidence comes from electing sane, intelligent, forward-looking leaders who truly lobe their people at both the state and local levels.

The President belongs to the whole nation and may not even look your way.

We've had federal ministers occupying sensitive positions in government. What good did that do us?

What you are hoping for is a mirage. Ask the people of Otuoke. Ask the people of Daura.

The people of Daura don't have good roads, but there a helipad there for the president anytime he wants to visit home. How many Daurans do you think own a helicopter?
Re: No Problem If Power Shifts To South-east In 2023 – Gowon by Nobody: 4:02pm On Jan 18, 2020
Ritchiee:
You know that we Yorubas are diplomatic.
We do not hate Fulanis,Hausas or Igbos but recent actions and utterances of the Fulanis show that they have some ulterior motives.

We wait for their next step before determining that.Watch is being kept.
Our diplomacy is killing us oooo.

That's why some fools think Yorubas are cowards.

Is it until we are all wiped out before we throw off diplomacy and defend ourselves.

The utterances of the Fulanis backed by their actions have shown their expansionist agenda.

What they don't understand is that Ile- Ife is like the Mecca of Moslems and the Rome of Christians to Yorubas. The world will end first before Yorubas are dislodged from their current habitat.

The Fulanis don't know this because they are mostly nomadic. They are about to learn.
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Re: No Problem If Power Shifts To South-east In 2023 – Gowon by Nobody: 4:33pm On Jan 18, 2020
PreciousJuice:
You said and I quote "Confidence comes from electing sane, intelligent, forward-looking leaders who truly lobe their people at both the state and local levels."
If the above is truly what u believe then let the presidency come to the west and a leader with above qualities from west be elected,
Also u forget to talk about the most important which is the Executive backing, the handicapped security outfit lacks it, even legislative backing is not there as southwestern senators under their chairman said they were not carried along and that amotekun is not sustainable.
Don't act like u don't know, Executive backing and legislative backing the outfit lacked makes it not only handicapped but irrelevant
Maybe if a leader from the west with the qualities u mentioned above is elected, the 3 benefits that u request I list can be achieved.
Are you aware that the state governors are chief EXECUTIVES of their various states?

Are you aware that in a democracy the states are autonomous and the President isn't their headmaster?
Re: No Problem If Power Shifts To South-east In 2023 – Gowon by Ritchiee: 4:36pm On Jan 18, 2020
FrLukas:
Our diplomacy is killing us oooo.

That's why some fools think Yorubas are cowards.

Is it until we are all wiped out before we throw off diplomacy and defend ourselves.

The utterances of the Fulanis backed by their actions have shown their expansionist agenda.

What they don't understand is that Ile- Ife is like the Mecca of Moslems and the Rome of Christians to Yorubas. The world will end first before Yorubas are dislodged from their current habitat.

The Fulanis don't know this because they are mostly nomadic. They are about to learn.
Fulanis are very treacherous. They have always hidden under the cloak of religion.True Muslims and Christians do not kill.They are killers and expansionists going by the utterances of their associations.When I read that herdsmen have killed more than 8,000 people within 3 years,I was very sad.I think they have some ulterior motives which Amotekun will not allow.
Re: No Problem If Power Shifts To South-east In 2023 – Gowon by Nobody: 4:37pm On Jan 18, 2020
Ritchiee:
Fulanis are very treacherous. They have always hidden under the cloak of religion.True Muslims and Christians do not kill.They are killers and expansionists going by the utterances of their associations.When I read that herdsmen have killed more than 8,000 people within 3 years,I was very sad.I think they have some ulterior motives which Amotekun will not allow.
That's why they are fighting hard against it.
Re: No Problem If Power Shifts To South-east In 2023 – Gowon by Ritchiee: 4:41pm On Jan 18, 2020
FrLukas:
That's why they are fighting hard against it.
smiley
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Re: No Problem If Power Shifts To South-east In 2023 – Gowon by Nobody: 5:03pm On Jan 18, 2020
PreciousJuice:
Stop twisting trying to sound smart,
I'm talking about Federal executives and legislators
Refer to point two.
Re: No Problem If Power Shifts To South-east In 2023 – Gowon by Xisnin(m): 5:57pm On Jan 18, 2020
PreciousJuice:
Quit dreaming of restructuring or odudua republic, also can u tell us how amotekun that is handicapped will safe lives and properties? Can u also tell us how having handicapped amotekun is more beneficial than the presidency?
2023 presidency favors the southwest because they have worked diligently for this govt and producing the next president is the only way the region's effort will not be in vain.
Do u know that some politicians in the south are only weaponising amotekun as political tool, because I think what the west should want more than anything is presidency, when we have it(presidency), we can then push for proper support and legalisation of amotekun, that's how I think southwest leaders should go about this not start media and audio war that have little or no effect.
Amotekun is handicapped, yet you and the Fulanis are crying about it.
Does that make any sense to you?
When do people start caring about a handicapped group instead of dismissing them?
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