adjoviomole:
Once ur wife is pregnant b4 marriage dats fornication. You have not wedded her n u got her pregnant.y shld d church join u 2geda?.



, Besides its nt by force to wed in d church,u can go to other places if u cannot abide by d churchs rule and d edicts of God according to d bible,no one will condemn u. God bless u

@the bolded. Because the bible said so.

Gaborone:
Now, what we call 'church wedding' is actually the court marriage properly so called.

I don't think so. Neither do churches think so.

Will you then say that the islamic wedding is also the court marriage (if it issues certificate, licensed by the government)?

TruthHurts1:

Apart from opening yourself to criticism, you've shown yourself up to be very stupid too. There are so many references to marriage in the Bible:

Mark 10 VS 8 to 9; 1 Corinthians 7:1 - 7:40 - Ephesians 5:22 -
5:33 - Ephesians 5:25 - 5:33

Just to mention a few.

Secondly, you're confusing "wedding" with "marriage". Wedding is a ceremony, marriage is an institution.
The Bible laid down the template of a Christian marriage as the voluntary union of a man and woman for the rest of their lives. What manner of ceremony they choose in solemnising their union does not matter as long as the SUBSTANCE of the union complies with Biblical standards.
I sense you are not a Christian and that may account for your ignorance. And if indeed you call yourself a Christian, it is possible you may be living a lie. Read the Bible well before disparaging it, or God's wrath will abide on you.

You know what he's trying to say. Don't leave the issue and dwell on his words (at surface level)

anukulapo:

@the bolded. Because the bible said so.

D bible did nt say so. D fact still remains dat once u av nt wedded her,she aint urs yet.

anukulapo:

I don't think so. Neither do churches think so.

Will you then say that the islamic wedding is also the court marriage (if it issues certificate, licensed by the government)?

It's very okay to disagree, but it seems you didn't get my earlier post. If you may allow me, I'll explain a bit more tomorrow. And I'll try to answer your question too.

We're too tired to think straight or type now.



It's a night!

adjoviomole:



D bible did nt say so. D fact still remains dat once u av nt wedded her,she aint urs yet.

That means you're not aware.
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Here:
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Suppose a woman isn't engaged to be married, and a man talks her into sleeping with him. If they are caught (not necessarily in the act, might be due to pregnancy), they will be forced to get married. He must give her father fifty pieces of silver as a bride price and can never divorce her. Deut 22: 28-29

anukulapo:

That means you're not aware.
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Here:
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Suppose a woman isn't engaged to be married, and a man talks her into sleeping with him. If they are caught (not necessarily in the act, might be due to pregnancy), they will be forced to get married. He must give her father fifty pieces of silver as a bride price and can never divorce her. Deut 22: 28-29

Dats d old testament,we are no longer in d period of do n die,but in d period of grace"look n live"

adjoviomole:





Dats d old testament,we are no longer in d period of do n die,but in d period of grace"look n live"

If I had bet my life that you'll say "that's the old testament", I'll still be very much alive by now. I'm not surprised.
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I really do not know how to help in this case anymore. I hope someone else can help explain to you.

anukulapo:

If I had bet my life that you'll say "that's the old testament", I'll still be very much alive by now. I'm not surprised.
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I really do not know how to help in this case anymore. I hope someone else can help explain to you.

So impregnating A woman you are yet to wed is a good thing to u?. Even d part u quoted in d bible shows dat it was nt a good tin,because d dude was forced to do all d rights.marriage is not by force

adjoviomole:



So impregnating A woman you are yet to wed is a good thing to u?.

You really don't get the point. You're talking based on subjective apologetic (of morality) sentiment.

adjoviomole:

Even d part u quoted in d bible shows dat it was nt a good tin

What you should be checking is the purpose of the injunction. Why do you think the law was put in place?
However,back to the earlier point, the law said they should get married. It didn't say the "pastor" should exercise his "power" to cancel their wedding because of premarital sex.

adjoviomole:

because d dude was forced to do all d rights.marriage is not by force

That is the "consequence. More like saying since you two love one another so much as to have done that, then you should get married.
I didn't make the law,neither did I place it in your copy of the bible. If you don't agree with it, just tell yourself that "it's old testament". That'll settle the matter.

anukulapo:


You really don't get the point. You're talking based on subjective apologetic (of morality) sentiment.


What you should be checking is the purpose of the injunction. Why do you think the law was put in place?
However,back to the earlier point, the law said they should get married. It didn't say the "pastor" should exercise his "power" to cancel their wedding because of premarital sex.


That is the "consequence. More like saying since you two love one another so much as to have done that, then you should get married.
I didn't make the law,neither did I place it in your copy of the bible. If you don't agree with it, just tell yourself that "it's old testament". That'll settle the matter.

4o because u are d son of d president, d church shld brk der rule for u?.......d church av der set rule n dey will nt amend it for anyone...must u wed in d church. If u wed outside d church will not hold u,or stop u frm comn to church. Simple,now do u get my point,if nt pls don't quote me again.tanks n God bless u

adjoviomole:





4o because u are d son of d president, d church shld brk der rule for u?.......d church av der set rule n dey will nt amend it for anyone...must u wed in d church. If u wed outside d church will not hold u,or stop u frm comn to church. Simple,now do u get my point,if nt pls don't quote me again.tanks n God bless u

Ok. I get your point.

anukulapo:

Ok. I get your point.

What we have failed to look into which would save us a lot of stress is that
(i) Christianity is not a religion but a way of life (God is reaching out to man)
(ii) Religions are a sub section of tradition, therefore every group of people with a common tradition have their religion (ways of reaching out to God).
The wedding ceremony is meant for people and not God - entertainment of human guests. God will not come to wine and dine with you during any of the receptions or ceremonies.
So as a couple (bride and groom to be) you are to choose how you want your marriage contracted or the wedding ceremony you want. That being said, as a Christian you are to fulfill the will of God (no premarital sex) and the law in anyway you deem fit.
IMO all that's necessary to fulfill the law are the presence of
(i) a person authorized by the State (government) to conduct weddings and supervise exchange of vows and symbol of love (if you subscribe to use of rings or exchange of any materials),
(ii) witnesses; doesn't have to be parents by fire by force - there are orphans in this world, there are people far away from home and people do elope to get married
(iii) a clean slate that you are not legally married to someone else at that same time.

God doesn't need an ordained minister to bless anything us, all He says are for us to pray in the name of Jesus and have faith.
Therefore, I feel a meeting of families of the couple, presentation of gifts and or items requested by a family (generally bride's family in Nigerian What we have failed to look into which would save us a lot of stress is that
(i) Christianity is not a religion but a way of life
(ii) Religions are a sub section of tradition, therefore every group of people with a common tradition have their religion (mode of reaching out to God).
The wedding ceremony is meant for people and not God - showmanship of wealth and entertainment of guests. God will not come to wine and dine with you during any of the receptions or ceremonies.
So as a couple (bride and groom to be) you are to choose how you want your marriage contracted or the wedding ceremony you want. That being said, as a Christian you are to fulfill the will of God (no premarital sex) and the law in anyway you deem fit.
IMO all that's necessary to fulfill the law are the presence of
(i) a person authorized by the State (government) to conduct weddings and supervise exchange of vows and symbol of love (if you subscribe to use of rings or exchange of any materials),
(ii) witnesses; doesn't have to be parents by fire by force- there are orphans in this world, there are people far away from home and people do elope to get married
(iii) a clean slate that you are not legally married to someone else at that same time.

God doesn't need an ordained minister to bless anything we do, all He says are for us to pray in the name of Jesus and have faith.
Therefore, I feel a meeting of families of the couple, presentation of gifts and or items requested by a family (generally bride's family in Nigerian traditions) which can be termed traditional marriage and registration of the marriage with the government are enough to fulfill the necessary requirements. This can be termed traditional marriage and registration of the marriage with the government are enough to fulfill the necessary requirements.

PastorAIO:

Toor,how I for do nah? Before person come send me "holy ghost fire"

timifakay:

The wedding ceremony is meant for people and not God - entertainment of human guests. God will not come to wine and dine with you during any of the receptions or ceremonies.

You have spoken well.

timifakay:

So as a couple (bride and groom to be) you are to choose how you want your marriage contracted or the wedding ceremony you want.

In this also, you have spoken well.
You have one like from me.

anukulapo:


In this also, you have spoken well.
You have one like from me.

Had to put groom in the statement due to the way some ladies make it sound like it's possible to hold the event without one, whereas in alot of cases the groom does the most in bringing this dream to reality. He does the wooing, convincing, proposing, and payment of bride price, yet it's all about the bride...

200%

timifakay:


Had to put groom in the statement due to the way some ladies make it sound like it's possible to hold the event without one,..

no, its not possible.


never mind the staged photoshoots.

timifakay:


Had to put groom in the statement due to the way some ladies make it sound like it's possible to hold the event without one, whereas in alot of cases the groom does the most in bringing this dream to reality. He does the wooing, convincing, proposing, and payment of bride price, yet it's all about the bride...

All na end time things.
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Changing the order of life.
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Attend registry marriage and see the registrar hand over the marriage certificate to the bride "for safe keep".

anukulapo:

All na end time things.
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Changing the order of life.
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Attend registry marriage and see the registrar hand over the marriage certificate to the bride "for safe keep".

Have the registrar give it to you when you marry, or collect it from your bride.

Really, nlers whine and nag too much over the same thing every single day, its annoying.

the other guy had a valid point but YOU are just typing for typing sake.

anukulapo:

All na end time things.
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Changing the order of life.
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Attend registry marriage and see the registrar hand over the marriage certificate to the bride "for safe keep".

LOL... I believe the safe keeping ish is Naija mentality, it takes two to tango.

tpiar:



Have the registrar give it to you when you marry, or collect it from your bride.

Really, nlers whine and nag too much over the same thing every single day, its annoying.

the other guy had a valid point but YOU are just typing for typing sake.

I'm sorry if I hurt you.

You are delusional.

Mpanyi:
Op, please believe what you want to believe and leave others. There are many references of wedding/marriage in the scripture. In the old testament the Jews were given instruction on how marriage should go. Isn't that enough to tell you is godly and biblical? You lumped different issues about some of problems with our contemporary christian life with your post about wedding. Again, believe whatever you want to believe.

ur contribution lacks objectivity and is very vague. Please it will more comprehensive if you qoute a verse in the bible and explain were it state explicitly that a single marriage was done in the synagogue as it were then. Even jesus turn water to wine at a marriage ceremony did u here dat d marriage was conducted in church or synagogue, Please lets be guided accordingly.

timifakay:
What we have failed to look into which would save us a lot of stress is that
(i) Christianity is not a religion but a way of life (God is reaching out to man)
(ii) Religions are a sub section of tradition, therefore every group of people with a common tradition have their religion (ways of reaching out to God).
The wedding ceremony is meant for people and not God - entertainment of human guests. God will not come to wine and dine with you during any of the receptions or ceremonies.
So as a couple (bride and groom to be) you are to choose how you want your marriage contracted or the wedding ceremony you want. That being said, as a Christian you are to fulfill the will of God (no premarital sex) and the law in anyway you deem fit.
IMO all that's necessary to fulfill the law are the presence of
(i) a person authorized by the State (government) to conduct weddings and supervise exchange of vows and symbol of love (if you subscribe to use of rings or exchange of any materials),
(ii) witnesses; doesn't have to be parents by fire by force - there are orphans in this world, there are people far away from home and people do elope to get married
(iii) a clean slate that you are not legally married to someone else at that same time.

God doesn't need an ordained minister to bless anything us, all He says are for us to pray in the name of Jesus and have faith.
Therefore, I feel a meeting of families of the couple, presentation of gifts and or items requested by a family (generally bride's family in Nigerian What we have failed to look into which would save us a lot of stress is that
(i) Christianity is not a religion but a way of life
(ii) Religions are a sub section of tradition, therefore every group of people with a common tradition have their religion (mode of reaching out to God).
The wedding ceremony is meant for people and not God - showmanship of wealth and entertainment of guests. God will not come to wine and dine with you during any of the receptions or ceremonies.
So as a couple (bride and groom to be) you are to choose how you want your marriage contracted or the wedding ceremony you want. That being said, as a Christian you are to fulfill the will of God (no premarital sex) and the law in anyway you deem fit.
IMO all that's necessary to fulfill the law are the presence of
(i) a person authorized by the State (government) to conduct weddings and supervise exchange of vows and symbol of love (if you subscribe to use of rings or exchange of any materials),
(ii) witnesses; doesn't have to be parents by fire by force- there are orphans in this world, there are people far away from home and people do elope to get married
(iii) a clean slate that you are not legally married to someone else at that same time.

God doesn't need an ordained minister to bless anything we do, all He says are for us to pray in the name of Jesus and have faith.
Therefore, I feel a meeting of families of the couple, presentation of gifts and or items requested by a family (generally bride's family in Nigerian traditions) which can be termed traditional marriage and registration of the marriage with the government are enough to fulfill the necessary requirements. This can be termed traditional marriage and registration of the marriage with the government are enough to fulfill the necessary requirements.

God bless you!!!

faith2ogesco:
God bless you!!!

Amen.