garfield1:

They did not err.uzodinma case is on incorrect computation not non compliance and most politicians petition based on non compliance and not wrong computation which is easier to prove

Voodoo logic...

You are making a fool of yourself, dude.

Ihedioha didn't accept their fulanisation, But Uzodima has accepted to kill his brothers, so you supporters be ready to be killed or you loose your people in their hands

Esseite:
INEC which conducted the election said the result is fake with evidence, but the supreme court which had no business in the election said it's not fake and the evidence submitted would not stand even with votes count more than accredited voters...

Supreme ice-cream indeed.

Some times i wonder if comprehension is that hard.

Uzodinma went to court with duplicates of the polling result sheets. Ihedioha and INEC as respondents said the results brought by Uzodinma were fake, it is Ihedioha and INEC that will provide proof that the results were fake but they both didn't. That means the results are not fake. They left the supreme court with only one option whether right or wrong. The option was to include the results Uzodinma brought to court if no one can proof it is fake. So Uzodinma with the new votes won whether fake or not. The real blame is on Ihedioha and INEC lawyers or that INEC had deliberately omitted the results belonging to Uzodinma in those polling units.

I just wonder if Nigerians have comprehension issues.

maestroferdi:
You are struggling with your conscience.

You don't know me!

To me ihedioha should hold his lawyers for deliberate sabotage ,his legal team and inec's legal teams are the biggest criminals in this case.
Hope was smart
The supreme court was factual they played by the book
Ihedioha's and inec's legal teams are either dumb or corrupt but my instincts said the later is the right option here.

adanny01:


Some times i wonder if comprehension is that hard.

Uzodinma went to court with duplicates of the polling result sheets. Ihedioha and INEC as respondents said the results brought by Uzodinma were fake, it is Ihedioha and INEC that will provide proof that the results were fake but they both didn't. That means the results are not fake. They left the supreme court with only one option whether right or wrong. The option was to include the results Uzodinma brought to court if no one can proof it is fake. So Uzodinma with the new votes won whether fake or not. The real blame is on Ihedioha and INEC lawyers or that INEC had deliberately omitted the results belonging to Uzodinma in those polling units.

I just wonder if Nigerians have comprehension issues.

Blindersoff:


This mindset right here is the reason you always lose. You reason from the bottom of an empty barrel.

How can you say the one who does not hold the original copies should prove his copies are not fake when the body which holds the original copies could not even produce the original copies to disprove Uzodinma?

What manner of education did you get in your life nwokem chukwudi? Inapu Ara?

original copies? are you kidding me? what makes it original

id911:
Tanko Mohammed is a fraud, he should be executed.

Executed for Fraud??! What part of the constitution allows that??! Where in a civilized society do you execute people for fraud??!... Lol... Funny Nairaland!!

adanny01:


Some times i wonder if comprehension is that hard.

Uzodinma went to court with duplicates of the polling result sheets. Ihedioha and INEC as respondents said the results brought by Uzodinma were fake, it is Ihedioha and INEC that will provide proof that the results were fake but they both didn't. That means the results are not fake. They left the supreme court with only one option whether right or wrong. The option was to include the results Uzodinma brought to court if no one can proof it is fake. So Uzodinma with the new votes won whether fake or not. The real blame is on Ihedioha and INEC lawyers or that INEC had deliberately omitted the results belonging to Uzodinma in those polling units.

I just wonder if Nigerians have comprehension issues.

so Uzodimma who introduced teh new documents have no burden to proof it is real

festacman:


You don't know me!

Ok, your conscience is long dead.

shosky1794:


Even after the documents being 'duplicate original'. We should read a lot and comprehend before coming to social media to make uninformed comments

One becomes so disappointed in our youths when reading comments on nairaland like now. I wonder if this shameful display of ignorance is deliberate or due to lack of knowledge. Many people here don't even know jack about basic things concerning law. How on earth should Hope start proving the originality of his documents or otherwise? It was the responsibility of the respondents, INEC and PDP to prove they are not original. But many mentally lazy people here would rather make you believe what is wrong. this is so sad

garfield1:

Tendering,linking it to the case and calling witnesses

lol how many witnesses were called for the 388 polling units You people must think you are talking to fools

garfield1:

Just like the lower courts,you misunderstand the issues.except the part where atiku accused buhari of forgery,atiku case is based on electoral malpractices and non compliance which means he needs to call witnesses from all polling units.if you claim polling unit results are fake or elections were rigged or there was no election as adduced by atiku,you have an impossible task to prove it.

Uzodinma did not say this.he simply said elections were held and it was free and fair but that his results were not computed.all he needs to do is to provide the duplicate copies while the police provides theirs which was done.eyesitnesses are not necessary.

OK, let's assume that Supreme Court was right to admit the results even though (they have no rights of collation of results and shouldn't have admitted those results), what did supreme court do when they found out that they number of accredited voters were higher than that of the total votes with excess over 102,000 ? what did they do when they found that only 1 candidate had all the votes in all 388 polling units where over 70 candidates contested in the same election?
What did the supreme Court do when the know that each polling units has the maximum number of 500 votes and do not exceed 500, but according to the supreme Court calculation 500*388=213,000

truthfulparrot:
My take is that INEC deliberately refused to provide strong evidence to prove that the results were fake in order to pave way for the embarrassing judgement by the supreme court..

The desperation of the Supreme court to give IMO state back to APC is a pointer to the fact that the North is not ready to relinquish power in 2023. Instead they are strategizing to form alliance with the South East in 2023. They will dangle the carrot of VP to Southeast who will be willing to take anything to spite the Southwest.

The Southwest Politicians are not sleeping, they came up with Amotekun in preparation for 2023. The North Strategists are aware of the politics behind Amotekun that is why they are crying foul.

There are difficult times ahead.........Things are falling apart!

You are talking from 2 sides of your mouth.

1st, you believe INEC deliberately refused to provide strong evidence to counter Uzodinma

2nd, you believe Supreme court is desperate to give Imo to APC

Am sorry to say, you need to pick 1 or 2 and hold on to it as they dont go together.

If INEC orchestrated this, then Supreme court is not to be blamed. If Supreme court did it, INEC is not to be blamed.

My take is that this is not a blame game, it is tampering (rigging) of results gone bad.

INEC has a total result which isn't wrong to have, but ground roots of the polls were edited as collation went on. Results of polling units were doctored during collation leaving evidence of polling unit duplicate sheets. These polling unit result sheet are not fake so INEC could not proof it fake. Those results showed that someone, decide to delete votes belonging to Uzodinma in several places. Without a proof of the polling sheets being fake, supreme court must add those deleted results back to him whether they were actually fake or not. Hence the outcome.

Blindersoff:


Their proof was when they tendered it. Inec called it a fake and forgery yet could not produce the originals to back up their claim.

Let me ask you a question.

If you accuse me of stealing money from your account is it up to me to disprove your claim or up to you to prove that I actually stole from you?

If you cannot how then did you arrive at the conclusion that I stole from you?

uzodimma is the one who went to court to allege INEC canceled his votes in 388 poling units.The burden of proof lies with him

danie09:
To me ihedioha should hold his lawyers for deliberate sabotage ,his legal team and inec's legal teams are the biggest criminals in this case.
Hope was smart
The supreme court was factual they played by the book
Ihedioha's and inec's legal teams are either dumb or corrupt but my instincts said the later is the right option here.

This is how APC and her supporters operate.

Perpetrate an obvious illegality and then start turning rationality on its head in order to futilely attempt to establish a pattern.

If you dont know what to say, just keep mum...

adanny01:


You are talking from 2 sides of your mouth.

1st, you believe INEC deliberately refused to provide strong evidence to counter Uzodinma

2nd, you believe Supreme court is desperate to gibe Imo to APC

Am sorry to say, you need to pick 1 or 2 and hold on to it as they dont go together.

If INEC orchestrated this, then Supreme court is not to be blamed. If Supreme court did it, INEC is not to be blamed.

My take is that this is not a blame game, it is tampering (rigging) of results gone bad.

INEC has a total result which isn't wrong to have, but ground roots of the polls were edited as collation went on. Results of polling units were doctored during collation leaving evidence of polling unit duplicates sheet. These polling unit result sheet are not fake so INEC could not proof it fake. Those results showed that someone, decide to delete votes belonging to Uzodinma in several places. Without a proof of the polling sheets being fake, supreme court must add those deleted results back to him whether they were actually fake or not.

did Uzodimma provide witneses to prove the elections held in 388 polling units? how many witneeses did he call? Did he sufficiently prove that elections held in those units!!!!

garfield1:

They did not err.uzodinma case is on incorrect computation not non compliance and most politicians petition based on non compliance and not wrong computation which is easier to prove

Supreme Court had ruled that once the number of votes exceeded the number of accredited voters it was over voting... So what happened to this case that the number of votes were in over 100,000 above the accredited voters

NORSYK:


OK, let's assume that Supreme Court was right to admit the results even though (they have no rights of collation of results and shouldn't have admitted those results), what did supreme court do when they found out that they number of accredited voters were higher than that of the total votes with excess over 102,000 ? what did they do when they found that only 1 candidate had all the votes in all 388 polling units where over 70 candidates contested in the same election?
What did the supreme Court do when the know that each polling units has the maximum number of 500 votes and do not exceed 500, but according to the supreme Court calculation 500*388=213,000

Where are the answers APC supporters?

ShinnBet:
It is up to the petitioner to prove beyond doubt and not the defendant's duty to disprove .

This sharia cleric needs to be returned back to his almajiri school of bokos

He did exactly that by tendering the documents. If anybody said they were fake, it was left for them to prove it with evidence. Not with mouth, court works with evidence. Is not as if police will just take me to court and say I killed someone and the judge will sentence me to death. they must provide evidences

zikter:
One becomes so disappointed in our youths when reading comments on nairaland like now. I wonder if this shameful display of ignorance is deliberate or due to lack of knowledge. Many people here don't even know jack about basic things concerning law. How on earth should Hope start proving the originality of his documents or otherwise? It was the responsibility of the respondents, INEC and PDP to prove they are not original. But many mentally lazy people here would rather make you believe what is wrong. this is so sad

Reading this thread almost brought me to tears. Nigeria's educational system is shiit.

Well at least everyone now knows that Hope Uzodinmma only manged to fool the Supreme court, not that he actually won.

PaChukwudi44:


uzodimma is the one who went to court to allege INEC canceled his votes in 388 poling units.The burden of proof lies with him

Uzodinma presented the cancelled results as proof of his claim of cancellation. Inec called it fake and forged so the onus is on Inec to prove it is fake and forged.

Stop reasoning like a beer parlour pundit Mr man

truthfulparrot:
My take is that INEC deliberately refused to provide strong evidence to prove that the results were fake in order to pave way for the embarrassing judgement by the supreme court..

The desperation of the Supreme court to give IMO state back to APC is a pointer to the fact that the North is not ready to relinquish power in 2023. Instead they are strategizing to form alliance with the South East in 2023. They will dangle the carrot of VP to Southeast who will be willing to take anything to spite the Southwest.

The Southwest Politicians are not sleeping, they came up with Amotekun in preparation for 2023. The North Strategists are aware of the politics behind Amotekun that is why they are crying foul.

There are difficult times ahead.........Things are falling apart!

Instead of us to allow the north to buy the south east with the VP position, we'd rather buy the south east with the presidency position. There's no way the north is ruling beyond 2023

maestroferdi:
Ok, your conscience is long dead.

Driven by personal convictions and unmoved by emotion, contemporariness or classifications.

Esseite:
INEC which conducted the election said the result is fake with evidence, but the supreme court which had no business in the election said it's not fake and the evidence submitted would not stand even with votes count more than accredited voters...

Supreme ice-cream indeed.

Please I would like to see the said evidence you are talking about. Thank you.

adanny01:


Reading this thread almost brought me to tears. Nigeria's educational system is shiit.

The person you are quoting actually has a point.
He is grounded academically.

truthfulparrot:
My take is that INEC deliberately refused to provide strong evidence to prove that the results were fake in order to pave way for the embarrassing judgement by the supreme court..

The desperation of the Supreme court to give IMO state back to APC is a pointer to the fact that the North is not ready to relinquish power in 2023. Instead they are strategizing to form alliance with the South East in 2023. They will dangle the carrot of VP to Southeast who will be willing to take anything to spite the Southwest.

The Southwest Politicians are not sleeping, they came up with Amotekun in preparation for 2023. The North Strategists are aware of the politics behind Amotekun that is why they are crying foul.

There are difficult times ahead.........Things are falling apart!

and you think if theres a election today, the niger delta will vote a south west candidate against a northerner,? after you people betrayed Gej?

adanny01:


You are talking from 2 sides of your mouth.

1st, you believe INEC deliberately refused to provide strong evidence to counter Uzodinma

2nd, you believe Supreme court is desperate to give Imo to APC

Am sorry to say, you need to pick 1 or 2 and hold on to it as they dont go together.

If INEC orchestrated this, then Supreme court is not to be blamed. If Supreme court did it, INEC is not to be blamed.

My take is that this is not a blame game, it is tampering (rigging) of results gone bad.

INEC has a total result which isn't wrong to have, but ground roots of the polls were edited as collation went on. Results of polling units were doctored during collation leaving evidence of polling unit duplicate sheets. These polling unit result sheet are not fake so INEC could not proof it fake. Those results showed that someone, decide to delete votes belonging to Uzodinma in several places. Without a proof of the polling sheets being fake, supreme court must add those deleted results back to him whether they were actually fake or not. Hence the outcome.

You failed to understand the political strategy of the Northern Cabal which started with the appointment of the current INEC chairman followed by the replacement of Onoghen with Tanko. .. the fact is INEC is involved in this grand plan by the supreme court. Go through my earlier post in March last year. The northern Cabal are political strategist and they have always suceeded in fooling people like you!

PaChukwudi44:


did Uzodimma provide witneses to prove the elections held in 388 polling units? how many witneeses did he call? Did he sufficiently prove that elections held in those units!!!!

That's what the SC is saying. His pleading was not about elections not holding in 388 PUs, Rather its about wrong imputation of his votes from 388PUs as against what the two lower courts assumed. And to prove that, he brought duplicates given to him at the PUs which the police tendered theirs too to collaborate his but about 20 are missing. Now all INEC has to do is bring the authentic copies to disprove Hope and it failed to do.

Blindersoff:


Uzodinma presented the [b]cancelled results [/b]as proof of his claim of cancellation. Inec called it fake and forged so the onus is on Inec to prove it is fake and forged.

Stop reasoning like a beer parlour pundit Mr man

did Uzodimma prove that the so called cancelled votes were from INEC?

PaChukwudi44:


did Uzodimma provide witneses to prove the elections held in 388 polling units? how many witneeses did he call? Did he sufficiently prove that elections held in those units!!!!

Was that in contention? Uzodinma's case was simple, my results were not counted, court count them, these my evidence. INEC said the evidence is fake but didn't provide proof. At what point do you want Uzodinma to proof election held. Uzodinma is the appellant, his case wasn't based on whether election held or not. His case, is based on the fact that duly counted votes were excluded. To proof that, he just had to provide the polling unit result sheet, police provide theirs and even if INEC calls it forged, it doesn't matter.

Come to think of it, do you think Uzodinma will forge result sheets and take to the supreme court? That could put him behind bars and keys thrown in the sea.

shosky1794:
The problem with our youths is reading and comprehension.

It is not that they can not read and comprehend. The problem is that they have let the hatred and sentiments for APC to take over their sense of reasoning therefore they would always deny the truth