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Empiree:
Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction. 4:82



“(This is) revelation of the book in which there is no doubt, from the Lord of the worlds. Or do they say he has forged it? Nay it is the truth from the Lord.” (32:2-3)



Verily We(Allah)! it is We who have revealed the Admonition(Qur'an), and verily We are the guardians thereof. (15: 9)


Where is Zaid bin Thabit mentioned here?

advocatejare:
You're a joker, before I answer you clarify the false claim you made earlier that God legislated the way Ezra prayed.

If you can't show me where God legislated it in the Bible, then it means you invented it and God had already cursed people like you that add to his words

Empiree:
guy, did you go to school and what was your final grade?. It you did "orijo" to pass exams?. I just showed you how prophets and messangers passed down salat throughout history. All of them are in harmony but CHRISTIAN worship is the opposite

advocatejare:
You claim that God legislated it, show the prove

Empiree:
he "died for your sins" but he cried out loud to his father for rescue him Matthew 27:46.

Did that sounds like someone who wanted to die for humanity?. Keep deceiving yourself

Empiree:
No need to waste time. Let's look at the definition of LEGISLATION.

As you can see from the definition shows a SPECIFIC mode of SALAT. Prayers of all prophets and messangers were similar which means it is a legislation. This is contrary to Christian unregulated prayers today which is the reason you can't pray together because you do not have universal mode of worship.

So salat of all prophets and messangers were regulated like Muslims

advocatejare:
you're a fraud just like Muhammad. Show me where God or any prophet made it a law that we must pray by bowing down.

If you can't show me, it means you have lied against God and God's curse is on liars!

advocatejare:
He had to feel the pain so that the world can be saved but muhammad's pain was from when the poison was tearing his aorta and Muhammad later died miserably, filthy death he died and never woke up, death defeated him, he felt the agony of death and could not survive it. Jesus died, resurrected and lives forever, he's alive. Halleluyah

Empiree:
No need to waste time. Let's look at the definition of LEGISLATION.

As you can see from the definition shows a SPECIFIC mode of SALAT. Prayers of all prophets and messangers were similar which means it is a legislation. This is contrary to Christian unregulated prayers today which is the reason you can't pray together because you do not have universal mode of worship.

So salat of all prophets and messangers were regulated like Muslims

advocatejare:
Diversion tactic.

Zaid bin Thabit wrote the Quran u have today, he was supervised by Uthman and they destroyed the other codices.

Tell us about the history of compilation of the Quran.

If you're a true Muslim and you believe that Muhammad is a true prophet and you believe that Allah is a true God, share the link to an Islamic website or Islamic book that tells us the history of how the Quran was compiled and I will show you that Zaid bin Thabit was the one that gave you the Quran you have today.

Empiree:
talk talk talk without flavor. Guy, Jesus did not for for your sin. That's fallacy concocted by Bible scholars. You can't claim to want to die for humanity and at the same time cry your ass out for help. That's obvious contradiction. Get off your high horse and admit the truth.

advocatejare:
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We follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and he has told us the way to pray, and it is his teachings that we follow not the teaching of the sex addict filthy false prophet muhammad

Matthew 6
5 “When you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites who love to pray publicly on street corners and in the synagogues where everyone can see them. I tell you the truth, that is all the reward they will ever get. 6 But when you pray, go away by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to your Father in private. Then your Father, who sees everything, will reward you.

advocatejare:
I've already known the truth and I'm free, no follower of filthy, sex addict that died miserably while having sex can tell me lies and I will believe.

A false prophet that was born 600years after christ had died and resurrected cannot tell me that a jinn that tormented him in the cave of Hira told him a contrary thing about Jesus and i will believe him.

Empiree:
You sound like angry jerk after I trashed your yansh show me from Qur'an where it is said said authored Quran?. If you can't, then you need to cease and desist

Empiree:
sign...empty. I have comfortably humbled you. You have nothing upstairs again except blackmailing religious figure

Empiree:
show me just one teaching of Jesus that you follow?.

Second, Jesus has nothing to do with you. He was sent to Jews not black Africans

advocatejare:
You are the one that is humbled, all the mumus who had thought you were a scholar and a knowlegeable person in Islam have seen that you don't know anything. I've blown wind in your yansh, ati ri furo e

advocatejare:
Tactical withdrawal. You have accepted the defeat, if not tell us the history of the compilation of the Quran

For not being man enough to accept my challenge, you have agreed that Muhammad was a false prophet and that Allah is an idol of the Quraysh

Empiree:
As I said before, you having nothing upstairs. You are now humbled. Remember there are viewers reading us. You opened this thread and came up like tiger. Now you are nothing but a chained wounded dog with it's tail btw the legs. You don't have anything else reasonable to say. The only thing you will be post from now is trash talk and blackmail. I will ignore

Have a nice day.

Sigh. Abraham was not a MOOslim. MooHaMad simply plagiarised and "converted" him into a muslim the same way that he did with many Jewish and Christian figures from the Bible.

Empiree:
have you finished wit your dishonest "tafsir"?



Salat did not start with prophet Muhammad. Salat had been legislated for Abraham.

[Quran 16:123] Then we inspired you (O Muhammad) to follow the religion of Abraham, monotheism; never was he an idol-worshiper.

[Quran 22:78] You shall strive in the cause of God as you should. He has blessed you, and imposed no hardship in your religion; the RELIGION OF YOUR FATHER ABRAHAM, It is He(ALLAH) who named you "Muslims" in the beginning. Thus, the messenger serves as witness among you, just as you serve as a witness among the people. Therefore, you shall observe the Salat prayers, give the Zakat charity, and hold fast to God; He is your Lord; the best Lord, and the best supporter.


Logically, if prophet Muhammad(SAW) was a follower of Abraham, and we are followers of Muhammad(SAW), then we are followers of Abraham. What did we and Muhammad(SAW) learn from Abraham ?

The Quran teaches us that we learned ALL THE RELIGIOUS PRACTICES of Islam from Abraham. The whole Arabian society before and during the time of Muhammad(SAW) had many followers of the religion of Abraham. Thus Abu Lahab, Abu Jahl, and the idolaters of Quraish used to observe Salat prayers as we can see in 8:35.


[Quran 8:35] Their SALAT PRAYERS at the shrine were no more than deceit and repulsion. ...

So salat offered by zorostan was nothing not whispering and deceit and their belief system was corrupt before the advent of prophet Muhammad(SAW) who later corrected them.



Same Salat and Zakat was ordained for the children of Israel

[Quran 2:43] (O Children of Israel) you shall observe the SALAT PRAYERS & ZAKAT charity; you shall bow down with those who bow.



Here Abraham and his sons were commanded to offer Salat and Zakat. [Quran 21:72-73] And we granted him (Abraham) Isaac and Jacob as a gift, and we made them righteous. And we appointed them Imams who guide in accordance with our commandments. AND WE TAUGHT THEM RIGHTEOUS WORKS AND THE OBSERVANCE OF SALAT AND ZAKAT.

So your attempt to lure zorotians with islam is nothing but deceit on your side. Even Jesus was commanded by Allah to offer Salat and Zakat. Here is MORE PROOFS THAT SALAT OBSERVED BEFORE PROPHET MUHAMMAD -SAW.


[Quran 3:43] O Mary (Mariam), you shall obey your Lord, and shall prostrate and bow down with those who bow down.

[Quran 19:31] (Jesus said) God has made me blessed wherever I go, and He commanded me to observe the SALAT PRAYERS and ZAKAT charity for as long as I live.


But the Jews and Christians lost the SALAT PRAYERS, changed it and invented their own.

[Quran 19:59] Generations came thereafter who LOST the SALAT prayers, and pursued their lusts.

So, again,

[Quran 21:72-73] And we granted him (Abraham) Isaac and Jacob as a gift, and we made them righteous. And we appointed them Imams who guide in accordance with our commandments. AND WE TAUGHT THEM RIGHTEOUS WORKS AND THE OBSERVANCE OF SALAT AND ZAKAT.

All the nonsense you do in church today is nothing but play and jokes

Empiree:
Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was a true Muslim [submitting to Allah ]. And he was not of the polytheists.Sura 3 vs 67

ContractKiller:
Abraham was unknown to the Arabs before muhammad introduced a version of him to them through his plagiarism of Jewish scripture.

Empiree:
looks like you are leftie. You pretty much sound like a nut·job. You have lots of studying to do

ContractKiller:
Quite the contrary my dear dimwit. You're actually the one who's in sore need of an education in both Islamic history and basic common sense. Just read this hadith then answer this question:


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How can Ishmael be the father of the Arabs if there were already Arabs before he was born and those Arabs taught him how to speak Arabic?

You guys are so gifted at lying that I'm actually curious to see what fibs you will use to answer this simple question.

Empiree:
Where did Abraham come from please?

ContractKiller:
My friend answer the question raised by the Hadith. If you can't answer my question, then I see no reason why I ought to answer yours

My question still stands:

If Ishmael is the father of Arabs, why does the Hadith tell us that there was already a nation of people called Arabs who taught him how to speak Arabic?

It's really a very simple question.

Keep lying like your lord and teacher in lies, the fake Arabian "prophet" who desperately wanted to be like the real Jewish prophets who came before him, even though the Jews regularly mocked his ignorance and lack of intelligence .

Empiree:
I believe i already answered in previous pages. Check it up. I have no time again. If it is not there you let me know