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tomdon:
Imagine asking this kind of foolish question when facts are available to show the obvious wrong judgement of the so called judges

I'm begging you, please give one single so called available fact to show that the SC delivered the wrong judgement.

The comedian don run away, small question the comedian no fit answer. Liars..

Agboriotejoye:
Did you even read the judgement at all? Do you realise that an INEC official gave witness that the elections in those PUs were cancelled or didn't hold and submitted 27 documents to back up his claim. The SC simply overlooked that fact!!
Besides all that, the absence of counter-evidence or proof as you call it does not validate a fraudulent or defective evidence. Every evidence is evaluated on its own merit not counter-evidence. You don't know anything.

So in other words to you na play them all go play for SC proceedings.
I don't know how you guys just trivialise serious event like a SC proceedings. Do you thing they are judges in Naija Sing or BBNaija.
Better wake up to reality. You should have also told Atiku to go back and re-appeal SC judgement on his election dispute.
Emotional nonsense. You think SC is like your village square

tomdon:
My submission is devoid of sentiment
The judges are not permitted to perpetrate illegality just cos the defendant didn't make his case well. Rather they should've sustained the status quo
And since they're all so daft, they could've employed even a primary school student to do the arithmetic for them. A whole supreme Court committing such a basic blunder is like a nightmare

Pained losers will resort to insults. During soccer they will say the referee is a blind bat, he doesn't know his job and all sorts instead of playing the game better than thier opponent to win.

Will still say it again.. there are no sentiments or emotions in the court of law

Wake up from your deep slumber. Ihedioha is gone. The man is so desperate that he's is disgracing himself just like Atiku looking for lost inec server

NGpatriot:
I'm begging you, please give one single so called available fact to show that the SC delivered the wrong judgement.

You needn't beg me
I give you the assignment of going to find that out and report with your findings. I can't be abetting your laziness and/or disregard of facts. Be diligent.
Injustice will not stand

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tomdon:
You needn't beg me
I give you the assignment of going to find that out and report with your findings. I can't be abetting your laziness and/or disregard of facts. Be diligent.
Injustice will not stand

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See, I know people like you, I wasn't even expecting you to come up with anything, you are a comedian and you have nothing to base your rants and comedy on, you just shout and shout injustice, but you can not produce anything to show that the SC delivered bad judgement.

Comedian

NEXT...

NGpatriot:
I'm begging you, please give one single so called available fact to show that the SC delivered the wrong judgement.
tomdon

Why don’t you mention another instance in Nigerian judicial history where the SC ruled against ALL lower courts AND the electoral authority itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!!

Don’t even limit it to only Nigeria. Mention any authentic democracy where that has ever happened.

YOU CAN’T! You know why?

Because the bar for removing an incumbent is placed very high otherwise most, including a Buhari, would lose their seats (because anyone can come up with electoral errors or even forge some - as in this case!). It should be nearly impossible to replace a sitting gov with a 4th-place finisher. If at all attempted, the evidence should be CLEAR, ABOVE BOARD, BEYOND REPROACH, FULLY AUTHENTICATED AND WELL COLLABORATED!

Not some childish documents with 200% voter turnouts!

YOU DON’T BASE SUCH MOMENTOUS, SEISMIC DECISIONS ON QUESTIONABLE DOCUMENTS, TECHNICALITIES, AND PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!!

Capisce?

CanadaOrBust:
Why don’t you mention another instance in Nigerian judicial history where the SC ruled against ALL lower courts AND the electoral authority itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!!

Don’t even limit it to only Nigeria. Mention any authentic democracy where that has ever happened.

YOU CAN’T! You know why?

Because the bar for removing an incumbent is placed very high otherwise most, including a Buhari, would lose their seats (because anyone can come up with electoral errors or even forge some - as in this case!). It should be nearly impossible to replace a sitting gov with a 4th-place finisher. If at all attempted, the evidence should be CLEAR, ABOVE BOARD, BEYOND REPROACH, FULLY AUTHENTICATED AND WELL COLLABORATED!

Not some childish documents with 200% voter turnouts!

YOU DON’T BASE SUCH MOMENTOUS, SEISMIC DECISIONS ON QUESTIONABLE DOCUMENTS, TECHNICALITIES, AND PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!!

Capisce?

Whose job was it to corroborate and authenticate the results submitted by the plaintiff? INEC, but the same INEC did not do so, they did not produce their own authentic results and they did not call any witness, even Ihedioha did not produce his own sets of results or any document at all.

Sorry, blame INEC, Ihedioha and his lawyers instead of crying fowl because they had ample opportunity to prove their case, show their own version of the results and even call witnesses, but they did not. Why? What were they hiding or afraid of?

NGpatriot:
Stop making up lies, INEC dId not produce anything and they did not call any witness.

It's obvious you're bereft of comprehension. Where did I say INEC called any witness. Go back and read what I wrote and understand before you start foaming at the mouth.
How does INEC not producing any result counter what I raised. Go back and read what I said. Don't be an ignoramus

Basher8583:
So in other words to you na play them all go play for SC proceedings.
I don't know how you guys just trivialise serious event like a SC proceedings. Do you thing they are judges in Naija Sing or BBNaija.
Better wake up to reality. You should have also told Atiku to go back and re-appeal SC judgement on his election dispute.
Emotional nonsense. You think SC is like your village square

It's obvious you have nothing tangible to say again. Justices Kayode Esho and Oputa have established that SC can make errors in judgement so I don't know who you are to think SC judgements can't be wrong.
Doesn't matter anyway. It's obvious the evidence they based their judgement on is factually defective.

NGpatriot:
Whose job was it to corroborate and authenticate the results submitted by the plaintiff? INEC, but the same INEC did not do so, they did not produce their own authentic results and they did not call any witness, even Ihedioha did not produce his own sets of results or any document at all.

Sorry, blame INEC, Ihedioha and his lawyers instead of crying fowl because they had ample opportunity to prove their case, show their own version of the results and even call witnesses, but they did not. Why? What were they hiding or afraid of?

It's obvious you've not seen the proceedings of the case you're just arguing based on sentiments. FYI, ihedioha produced his own version of the results. That's why the police officer was subpoenaed to bring the results with the police. He brought 366 instead of 388. Uzo brought 358 and a table of results.. It was the table of results the judgements was based on due to corroboration of some of them with the one brought by the police.
I've noticed you don't have the facts of the case. You're just arguing blindly.

Agboriotejoye:
It's obvious you're bereft of comprehension. Where did I say INEC called any witness. Go back and read what I wrote and understand before you start foaming at the mouth.
How does INEC not producing any result counter what I raised. Go back and read what I said. Don't be an ignoramus

all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!!

I read your post perfectly well, it just didn't make any sense.

You said they based their judgement on uncorroborated and unauthenticated documents, but you either posted that because you didn't know that INEC, Ihedioha and his lawyers were in the courtroom to authenticate the documents provided by the plaintiff and they refused to or maybe you just don't know anything about the case hence your assertion.

For the Supreme court to authenticate anything, they must have original documents from both sides to compare and authenticate, but the supreme court couldn't do that because INEC and Ihedioha refused to produce their own results and election documents, so, by refusing to show their own evidence and results to prosecute their case with, you still expect the supreme court to deliver in their favor?

You people can't be serious, I see emotions, baseless argument and lack of knowledge instead of sound legal facts and jurisprudence.

NGpatriot:
I read your post perfectly well, it just didn't make any sense.

You said they based their judgement on uncorroborated and unauthenticated documents, but you either posted that because you didn't know that INEC, Ihedioha and his lawyers were in the courtroom to authenticate the documents provided by the plaintiff and they refused to or maybe you just don't know anything about the case hence your assertion.

For the Supreme court to authenticate anything, they must have original documents from both sides to compare and authenticate, but the supreme court couldn't do that because INEC and Ihedioha refused to produce their own results and election documents, so, by refusing to show their own evidence and results to prosecute their case with, you still expect the supreme court to deliver in their favor?

You people can't be serious, I see emotions, baseless argument and lack of knowledge instead of sound legal facts and jurisprudence.

I never said the bolded. It's obvious you're confused now.

Agboriotejoye:
Did you even read the judgement at all? Do you realise that an INEC official gave witness that the elections in those PUs were cancelled or didn't hold and submitted 27 documents to back up his claim. The SC simply overlooked that fact!!
Besides all that, the absence of counter-evidence or proof as you call it does not validate a fraudulent or defective evidence. Every evidence is evaluated on its own merit not counter-evidence. You don't know anything.

The above is what I wrote. PDP's legal team called an INEC official as witness that elections weren't conducted or were cancelled in the 388 PUs. He submitted forms as evidences. It's there in the judgement. Go and read it and get educated.

Agboriotejoye:
I never said the bolded. It's obvious you're confused now.

The above is what I wrote. PDP's legal team called an INEC official as witness that elections weren't conducted or were cancelled in the 388 PUs. He submitted forms as evidences. It's there in the judgement. Go and read it and get educated.

INEC official gave witness that the elections in those PUs were cancelled or didn't hold and submitted 27 documents to back up his claim

That was a misquote on my part, but you are wrong regardless because INEC did not produce any witness and they did not tender any document.

When you return with your next post, please do so with proof and link that says INEC produced evidence and witnesses.

The apex court disclosed that the result sheets by Uzodinma became admissible because the Independent National Electoral Commission, INEC, did not counter them when produced by the APC governor.

https://dailypost.ng/2020/01/24/ihediohas-sack-we-admitted-result-sheets-by-uzodimma-because-inec-did-not-object-supreme-court/

INEC did not say a word, they did not counter or challenge the results provided by the plaintiff, case closed.

NGpatriot:
Whose job was it to corroborate and authenticate the results submitted by the plaintiff? INEC, but the same INEC did not do so, they did not produce their own authentic results and they did not call any witness, even Ihedioha did not produce his own sets of results or any document at all.

Sorry, blame INEC, Ihedioha and his lawyers instead of crying fowl because they had ample opportunity to prove their case, show their own version of the results and even call witnesses, but they did not. Why? What were they hiding or afraid of?

Bros, just look at what u r supporting in a bid to win a meaningless argument on an anonymous, faceless forum! A clearly horrible judgment that sets dangerous precedent:

A person that came 10th can easily be declared winner and immediately sworn in. All they’d have to do is present result sheets and the Supreme Court MUST accept them no matter how outrageous and defective they may be, as long as no one can produce the originals!
WOW!!!

The thing is, u seem incapable of seeing the big picture. U r all about technicalities and pretending not to see what is actually happening. If this were just another case u may be forgiven. But this is a case strikes at the very core of what type of country we may end up becoming. YOU DON’T DECIDE A CASE LIKE THIS ON TECHNICALITIES OR BY PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU! Consider Bush vs. Gore, for example. The Supreme Court not only thoroughly examined the documents, they ordered a manual recount of the actual original votes!

NO MATTER WHAT, the SC has a duty to make sure that such a momentous, seismic decision has solid, unassailable documentary basis?! They start doing that by thoroughly examining the documents in front of them! This is also their country and they ought care they are setting a precedent that can gradually make their country a one-party state! They are removing a gov and replacing him with a fourth-place finishing appellant based solely on a set of uncollaborated documents supplied solely by the appellant. Regardless of what anyone else fails to submit, they have a DUTY to EXAMINE those documents to make sure they are up to par and that the figures therein make sense vis-a-vis number of registered and accredited voters! That is how it is done! And that is why you don’t have an abundance of judgments like this!

Lol I dont care who wins the case but I'd love to see a runoff election. It would be very entertaining to see what amounts to an overtime game.

Blue3k:
Lol I dont care who wins the case but I'd love to see a runoff election. It would be very entertaining to see what amounts to an overtime game.

I honestly don’t care one whit either. I don’t know who these people are and their names mean absolutely nothing to me. I’d be saying the same exact things if the names were changed to Oluwole and Fashola!

Agboriotejoye:
It's obvious you have nothing tangible to say again. Justices Kayode Esho and Oputa have established that SC can make errors in judgement so I don't know who you are to think SC judgements can't be wrong.
Doesn't matter anyway. It's obvious the evidence they based their judgement on is factually defective.

SC has a purpose. It serves as the highest and final destination for a judgment. Knowing that, pdp and Ihedioha should have taken it very serious. They were so sure they will win after the success of Tribunal and Appeal.
Stop talking like someone who just woke up from slumber. I know the effect of shock which is what you are experiencing. It will wear out soon so you can live your normal life again. Next time follow them to court to assist, since you know better than the judges themself

NGpatriot:
That was a misquote on my part, but you are wrong regardless because INEC did not produce any witness and they did not tender any document.

When you return with your next post, please do so with proof and link that says INEC produced evidence and witnesses.

Here's page 24 of the judgement. Happy reading.
Don't just rely on hearsay and propaganda. Always get the facts.

Basher8583:
SC has a purpose. It serves as the highest and final destination for a judgment. Knowing that, pdp and Ihedioha should have taken it very serious. They were so sure they will win after the success of Tribunal and Appeal.
Stop talking like someone who just woke up from slumber. I know the effect of shock which is what you are experiencing. It will wear out soon so you can live your normal life again. Next time follow them to court to assist, since you know better than the judges themself

Yeah. I guess APC took Tanko very seriously. A legal team that won at trial and appeal suddenly became unserious at supreme court according to you. Abbeg go and siddon. You no get talk.
The only shock I have is that Tanko and his mates can't understand simple arithmetic. But I shouldn't be actually since he had an f9 in maths
Mind you even the composition of the judges is suspect. Out of the seven judges, five are from the north.

Agboriotejoye:
Yeah. I guess APC took Tanko very seriously. A legal team that won at trial and appeal suddenly became unserious at supreme court according to you. Abbeg go and siddon. You no get talk.
The only shock I have is that Tanko and his mates can't understand simple arithmetic. But I shouldn't be actually since he had an f9 in maths
Mind you even the composition of the judges is suspect. Out of the seven judges, five are from the north.

Lesson for you... when you want to rig election next timr ensure you tie all lose ends

Basher8583:
Lesson for you... when you want to rig election next timr ensure you tie all lose ends

Like APC tied the loose ends of the supreme court abi?
Tanko kept on changing judges till he was able to get those who were amenable to his demands led by Lagos just kekere-ekun