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| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by cosef: 9:13pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
GenBuhari:Abacha that budgeted a measly N1 million for all the road in the East, while people were dying everyday on Onitsha-Owerri road until OBJ dualized it. Yet he was stashing billions of dollars abroad. Abooki illiterate close ya mouth. |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 9:17pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
GenBuhari:You're being daft the case wasnt brought by Obasanjo. It was brought by the us with assistance from Nigeria. I gave you the information already looter apologist. You're foolishness on this topic shows why you shouldn't worship men. You're reduced to idiotic questions and inane comments. |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 9:47pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Blue3k:pathetic! clearly you are clueless on this issue. |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 10:28pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
GenBuhari:Lol you and Buhari both turn mumu over Abacha. You're talking about Obasanjo when the Abacha loot case filed in 2013 by US Department of Justice shows hes a thief. I guess you cant fix stupid keep worshipping your looter corruption apologist. Abacha stole alot money and laundered it all over the planet. The swiss case was settled out court. The government was able to prove he was a theif. They simply agree to let his criminal family keep 100 million dollars. According to the Swiss Ministry of Foreign Affairs, $700 million were returned to Nigeria. |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by myobjective: 10:30pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
GenBuhari:At the bolded, $1trn! oga abeg lie small small. Since all were discovered in commercial quantities Nigerian hasn't earn earned trillion dollars. Abacha was a senseless criminal, one of those people responsible for the problem facing Nigeria today, no matter how you try to whitewash him, history will ways remember him to a corrupt senseless dictator |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by myobjective: 10:35pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
GenBuhari:Where is the evidence that $16B went missing during Obasanjo regime? You people always like to repeat a lie severally in the hope that it goes unchallenged. There was never a time Nigeria budgeted $16B dollars or have $16b to invest in the power sector. Take a deep breath and go through those lies you wrote up there and come back with another round of illogical fallacies to exonerate your criminal dead general |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 10:38pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
myobjective:Google na your friend, research value of Malabu oil block. Abacha was one of our greatest leaders indeed in history of Africa. Just repeating unfounded allegations does not make those allegations true. |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by myobjective: 10:46pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
GenBuhari:Tell that the indomie generation that never lived through his dictatorship. I was an old enough to know the suffering and the agony suffered by Nigeria through his regime. Nigeria was so poor that the majority of Nigerians jubilated when the news of his demise hit the air. Abacha was one of the worst man to has ever ruled this country, he was clueless that the only person that came close him in cluelnly is one and only Mr clueless Buhari |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 10:49pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
myobjective:Proof is Obasanjo took $16bn and after he left office, no plants were found that he had built; our electricity generation capacity even fell. Senate probed the $16bn also. |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by myobjective: 10:54pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
GenBuhari:I don't want your "mei suya" or "mei shi" gist, i want real proof. Since Nigeria gain independent there was never a time that $16bn was spent on infrastructure not to talk of only electricity. My problem with core northern youth is they are too stupid to learn and when they're have baked they behave like "Wole Soyinka". More reading on the subject matters will clear all your ignorance |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 3:50pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
Genbuhari if you're just looter apologist. Its pretty clear you're turn off your brain because of your sycophantic worship of the thieving dictator. He's the timeline of the cases. ||Switzerland|| |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 3:51pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
GenBuhari:Sai mama ![]()
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| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by 12Monkeys: 3:58pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
GenBuhari:So all the loot that has been repatriated since 1999 was from his army salary? |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 4:09pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
GenBuhari:Rubbish. |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by orisa37: 4:38pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
Js22621:That is Abacha shaking Trump. |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 5:02pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
Blue3k:But how does the timeline prove Abacha was a looter. None of the cases convicted Abacha of looting. Blue3k:But how does the timeline prove Abacha was a looter. Blue3k:But how does the timeline prove Abacha was a looter. None of the cases convicted Abacha of looting. Interestingly you attachment proved that the Swiss court reversed the burden of proof on whether the money was looted in which case it can repartriate the money to Nigeria without proving Abacha looted. Also how Abacha is never mention alone it is always Abacha and associates. |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 5:33pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
GenBuhari:Looter apologist stop asking daft questions. Everyone has told you multiple times the government isn't going to convict a deadman. The money laundering opperations weren't carried out by him alone. He had bagman who moved the money for him including his family members. His son's names were on the account. The whole opperation isnt possible without him being involved. The 2013 case he's a thief but you ignored thst ask mumu questions about Obasanjo. The Indian businessman was imprisoned over being a money laundering for sani Abacha. Nigeria already proved the money was illegal obtained in 2004. The Courts already declared the money was obviously of criminal origin. Lol even a sycophant explained why his family has that sort of wealth without them stealing it. The family simply had to prove the money was legally acquired which the opted not to do for obvious reasons. In a [2010]JRC116 judgment of the Royal Court, an Indian businessman convicted on three counts of money laundering was sentenced to six years' imprisonment on each count, to run concurrently, in respect of the dishonest inflation by between 400 and 500% at the behest of General Sani Abacha of contracts for the purchase of motor vehicles sold to Nigeria in 1996 and 1997 for US$184 million, which were in truth worth about US$38 million, the making of false representations in that respect, the obtaining of dishonestly inflated payments for the vehicles out of Nigerian public funds, the dishonest payment of almost US$100 million in bribes from the sale proceeds to Swiss bank accounts connected to General Sani Abacha and other Nigerian public officials involved in the award of the vehicle supply contracts, and the conversion in 2000 of the proceeds of such criminal conduct, about US$40 million, for the purpose of avoiding prosecution when the mediaannounced that the Swiss authorities had launched a money laundering investigation and had identified the Swiss accounts into which the defendant had paid the bribes. |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 5:45pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
Blue3k:Still does not prove beyond reasonable doubt that Abacha looted. You have failed to say evidence that proved Abacha looted the money. |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 5:51pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
12Monkeys:Audio repatriation, none of money they claimed was repartriaed has ever been traced or appear in national budget, the white supremacist repatriating the phantom funds always dictate what is to happen to it. I don't believe anything has ever been repatriated . |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 5:53pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
immhotep:So this your only response? ok ! |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 5:58pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
GenBuhari:It's a civil case uneducated looter apologist. Beyond a reason doubt is used in criminal proceedings. The 2010 conviction of the indian and 2013 investigation by the US prove that. I already posted them multiple time read it slowly this time. GenBuhari:Lol you're calling Buhari a liar? You ptetty mentally challenged if you believe everything a conspiracy. Lol paranoid delusions. 1 January 2004 |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 6:16pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
Blue3k:Pathetic! Throwing childish insults just exposes you are out of your depth in this discussion. Keep avoiding answering the question. What evidence was presented to prove Abacha looted? |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by 12Monkeys: 6:25pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
GenBuhari:You are extremely stupid |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 6:34pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
12Monkeys:And this is your intelligent response? Oh the irony! |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by 12Monkeys: 6:37pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
GenBuhari:OK. Abacha never stole. Is this another way of defending your foolish Buhari gaffes? Because I know why you are trying to turn logic on it's head and it comes down to defending Buhari's stubborn stance that Abacha wasn't corrupt . Idiot. |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 6:56pm On Feb 06, 2020*. Modified: 7:30pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
GenBuhari:Im just making fair comments uneducated looter apologist. You didn't know preponderance of evidence determines winners of civil trial uneducated looter apologist. The facts all the accounts are connected him. All the family members and bagmen worked for him proves he stole. All the cases so far all implicated him as common dominator. The indian businessman even got sent to prison for laudering money for the cretin. You really must be mentally inept if you dont understand how organized crime works. General Sani Abacha directed Ismaïla Gwarzo, his National Security Adviser, to present him with false funding requests for security operations or equipment, which he had the power to authorise. For the most part, the funds wereGenbuhari even you cant be enough a mumu for Abacha to ignore these facts. Stop being a looter apologist. VIII. The Swiss decision to return USD 500 million |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 7:27pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
Blue3k:What you posted can at best be described as mixture of hearsay and circumstantial evidence. No hard evidence against Abacha himself. Imagine the desperation of those trying to pin corruption on him that they have to manufacture an entity they named " Abacha Criminal Organisation" to prosecute . The so called criminal organisation being made up of his family and so called associates according to the opinion of his accuser, Mr honesty himself Thief Obasanjo . For the court to even accept this contraption called a crimminal organisation as legitimate party in the case shows that the court is biased. |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 7:47pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
GenBuhari:This isnt hearsay looter apologist. Lol you're too pathetic. They termed it Abacha criminal organisation because it's easy way to identify the criminals. What they're doing is organized crime so there's nothing wrong with joining them together in the lawsuit. The case has already been proven in court there's no denying he's a thief especially when he owns the accounts in question. Lol this just the swiss case your favorite looter did the same in other countries. Can you explain how his sons were able to make that much money? Lol you're clearly mumu for Abacha. You spent a decade of your life being his apologist so I can see why it's hard to stop. You've made yourself look idiotic defending this proven theif. As a consequence, by the end of December 1999, a total of USD 645 million were frozen in Switzerland by the Examining Magistrate, including the USD 80 million frozen by the Federal Office of Police on 13 October 1999. A total of 130 bank accounts in Switzerland were identified as having been used by the Abacha criminal organisation. It should be noted that all accounts that had been identified by the Nigerian police and were specifically designated in the request for mutual assistance had been closed and their assets sent to other jurisdictions before September 1999. General Abacha was designated as |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 7:58pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
Blue3k:Still throwing insults? Are not able to make mature contribution without insults? Listen all you are posting are opinion of his accusers their sponsors from the same white supremacist nations that imposed sanctions on Abacha's govt. Finally how can court accept to call an entity criminal if the entity has never been convicted of a crime. Comprehend? |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 8:22pm On Feb 06, 2020*. Modified: 8:45pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
[s] GenBuhari:[/s] Its fair comment reffering to you alooter apologist. Your foolish comments and questions give me reason to doubt your cognitive abilities. This is a link summarizing the case clown. These arent mere accusation because they've already been proven in court. You screaming white supremacist just tells me you're mentally challenged. The Nigerian government levied the accusations against him and proved their case. Abacha stealing and stashing money overseas is black excellence in your mind. I asked you multiple times how the sons acquired this wealth. You avoided the question. Yes the courts can call some a criminal during after a criminal complaint has been lodged. Lol your mumu questions are endless. Here's why they labeled them a criminal organisation since you're curious. You'd know if you actually read the file instead of waiting to spoon fed information. Although there was no precedent in qualifying a head of state, his family and members of government as a criminal organisation, this qualification was essential to the success of the Swiss criminal and mutual assistance proceedings, for two reasons. |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 9:33pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
Blue3k:clearly the Swiss court is nothing short of a kangaroo court. How can it talk of the criminal organisation commiting criminal activities without the organisation not being convicted of any previous crime? |
| Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 10:12pm On Feb 06, 2020*. Modified: 11:17pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
GenBuhari:Wow you are mentally challenged. You keep shifting the goalpost no matter what to defend the looter. Even with multiple verdicts in favor of Nigeria from multiple countries you'll just ask another mumu question. First you lied saying no court said he stole. Now its kangaroo white supremacist court giving Nigeria imaginary money. Lol your paranoid mental ineptitude is baffling. They're called a criminal organization because they commit crimes as group. They're not on trial for previous crimes. Your question is stupid. Stealing isnt a crime when Abacha and his family does it. If you read link I gave you wouldn't need to ask mumu questions. Swiss definition of criminal Organization:It's clear common sense and law is hard for you to grasp. Lol keep dodging my question coward. How did Abacha's family earn the money in those accounts? |
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