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| Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by Blue3k2(op): 2:46pm On Feb 09, 2020*. Modified: 5:45pm On Feb 10, 2020 |
Different reports have recently highlighted security challenges in the Gulf of Guinea. One was published by the International Maritime Bureau, another by the French Navy’s Mica centre and another by the US Maritime Administration.Source: https://theconversation.com/amp/gulf-of-guinea-fighting-criminal-groups-in-the-niger-delta-is-key-to-defeating-piracy-130480 Front page: Lalasticlala mynd44
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| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by Citytrend: 2:51pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Not sure that will go away anytime soon expecially when you have our u inform men working with them |
| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by budaatum: 3:08pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Somebody must come and tell me its Fulani herdsmen with their cow that is causing havoc in the Delta! At the heart of the problem are activities by criminal groups based in the Niger Delta where kidnappings on land have long been a security challenge. Unless the massive security problems in the Delta are resolved, no significant headway will be made at sea. |
| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by Blue3k2(op): 3:11pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Citytrend:If there's leakers simply start coloring the water expose them. The issues in the niger delta must be dealt with if the nation wants new seaports to be sucessful. Piracy and illegal fishing can be dealt with by simply increasing their budget as I always suggest. These criminals should go find honest jobs or sit in jail. |
| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by Simplyleo: 3:11pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
budaatum:You are wrong. It is actually the Fulani Herdsmen with their cows causing the havoc. For details, contact the nearest ipob miscreant. ![]() |
| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by budaatum: 3:15pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Simplyleo:I know I am wrong. I'm just asking for someone to show me cow in the Delta kidnapping ships and people and stealing and illegally selling oil. |
| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by budaatum: 3:17pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Blue3k2:Were they not paid to go and retrain and reskill? |
| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by Blue3k2(op): 3:23pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
budaatum:Weren't the bandits not given amnesty and yet they're rampaging in the north west. What's the point of your question? |
| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by budaatum: 3:31pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Blue3k2:The point of my question is they were retrained and reskilled and they are now back, so that perhaps isn't the solution. I'm sure you'd agree that it is not working in the North either, though, amnesty is not quite "reskill and retrain". |
| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by Blue3k2(op): 3:48pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
budaatum:I didn't suggest futher amnesty or reskilling so the question is redundant. Criminal recidivism is a big issue since these guys dont face any real consequences to their lifestyle. The best course of action is to gather intelligence on the criminals gangs on land and arrest then. The navy also needs to have a smothering presence at sea. |
| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by budaatum: 3:56pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
I was not responding to any suggestion of yours, but stating one solution that did not work. These people were paid lots of money to reskill and retool but they didn't retool and reskill, least not most of them, though I do know some who got scholarships to study at home and abroad and who are now doing very well indeed. You can arrest as many as you want, but the rate at which we breed will always mean replacements are waiting in the wings. What is required is proper education so that they can find useful things to do with their lives. Same with alimanjeri who have no skills to do anything better than what they currently do. Blue3k2: |
| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by Blue3k2(op): 4:18pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
budaatum:You asked me a redundant question to point out something that doesn't work? Ok we both agree futher amnesty isnt a solution hence why nobody suggested it. The only people who haven't learned the lesson are government officials who decide to pay off criminals and or give the blanket amnesty. Boko haram traitors being another example. We'll see what becomes of the rehabbed mongrels. I disagree the strong arm of the law is what's needed most. There's already schools in the state. They can sign up for skills courses. If more is needed that can be addressed. The claim they'll just be replaced like nothing is false. These same steps took down pirates in Somalia. The Gulf of Guinea should simply copy. |
| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by budaatum: 4:31pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Blue3k2:"These same steps" just moved them on to other criminal activities!
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| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by Blue3k2(op): 4:39pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
budaatum:We're talking about how to reduce piracy on this thread. If these solutions reduce piracy that's success. Nice try shifting goal post. The overwhelming pressence of navy did just that. They even went back in fishing. Crime in general requires other holistic solutions. Ps: Somalia a failed state. Their government would naturally have a harder time tackling crime.
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| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by budaatum: 4:47pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Blue3k2:You are talking about "how to reduce piracy on this thread", but you do not dictate what others are talking about, especially if your solution just seems to push piracy into other crimes. Do note that piracy is "crime in general", and those who wish to reduce it should consider "other holistic solutions". |
| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by Blue3k2(op): 5:00pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
budaatum:Your switching from asking redundant questions to shifting goal post ok. If the criminals in question switch to land based crimes they'll have to content with security forces already on the ground. If Buhari is interested in tackiling crime he could use security vote money more responsibly. Increasing the police presence. State governments also taking more Initiative. Improving the economy would also help. The ultimate solution is to amend the constitution to allow any tier of government to have their own police force and prisons. It also be smart to amend exclusive list item 2 and 1990 fire arms act.
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| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by budaatum: 5:19pm On Feb 09, 2020*. Modified: 3:55pm On Feb 10, 2020 |
Blue3k2:You keep calling my question redundant, yet, it is what's making you delve deeper into this to find a holistic solution. Is it your position that only you is "holistic", I wonder. This crime is not only for Buhari to solve! As you yourself point out, "State governments also taking more Initiative. Improving the economy would also help". See here what a state governor is alleged to have done with state money, which, if true, promotes crime in that state. As for state police, my opinion is stated here.
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| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by Blue3k2(op): 5:39pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
budaatum:Your question to me on amnesty was redundant. There's no debating that. Your erroneous claim thst strong navy wouldnt reduce piracy was debunked. Now shifting goal to crime in general since you can't defend that arguement. No your redundant questions didnt make me delve deeper. I already made threads on these topics dont give yourself credit. Buhari is the commander in chief. These security concerns are his responsibility since the agencies answer to him. Again you do a good job restating some of my positions. Try making good points own. You're position on state police doesn't matter to me. If you dont want in your state let the federal police protect your state. Your stste assembly may not be competent enough to write laws to reign in the executive. Anyone that wants one can should be allowed to do so. |
| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by budaatum: 5:48pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Blue3k2:Well, as you might have noticed, Nigeria is not so lawless that "Anyone that wants one can should be allowed to do so", since we all know how that tends to end!
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| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by Blue3k2(op): 5:55pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
budaatum:A professional police force would act better. Again if your state assembly are too incompetent to regulate the police dont bother. Nobody is forcing your state to establish one. It's not like the federal police force doesn't harass, extort or kill people unjustly. When these crimes happen they should be prosecuted. It's that simple. #endsars was popular for these reasons. |
| Re: Fighting Criminal Groups In The Niger Delta Is Key To Defeating Piracy by Blue3k2(op): 5:35pm On Feb 10, 2020*. Modified: 5:52pm On Feb 10, 2020 |
Just taking a casual look at the maps shows there's a needs to do more strengthen navy. All the crime is around Rivers and Lagos. Then we should cooperate more with neighbors to keep region sage. |
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