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Please reasonable answers and explanation cuz we see a strong agitation that biafra Will come. But how. Is it through war.. Which some say isn't the case. So how does he intend to make it happen

Only in a diplomatic way by turning Ipob to regional political party. Trust me by 2 cycle elections, they must have been controlling both Senate and reps seats in SE

Forming an alliance with any region that ready to work with them. Then they can present their grievances at both upper and lower chambers

Seceeding take decades not just years cos if not, Catalonian supposed to be independent country today upon how ecomony viable they are

he is ok with collecting levy and regonition from politician he dont have any clear way to make it happen . Biafra will only happen when an Anambra man lead the agitation

Anything not gotten with human blood.....can never be gotten with pen....unless that pen is inked with blood.

helinues:
Only in a diplomatic way by turning Ipob to regional political party. Trust me by 2 cycle elections, they must have been controlling both Senate and reps seats in SE

Forming an alliance with any region that ready to work with them. Then then can present their grievances at both upper and lower chanbers

Seceeding take decades not just years cos if not, Catalonian supposed to be independent country today upon how ecomony viable they are

At least you are half way through to been considered sane enough for an intelligent conversation... good take, even though you are still lacking in some grey areas of reasoning.

Bikoko:
At least you are half way through to been considered sane enough for an intelligent conversation... good take, even though you are still lacking in some grey areas of reasoning.

You should have made your own contributions first before accepting or opposing others views

agboemma35 post=86664632[s:
]Please reasonable answers and explanation cuz we see a strong agitation that biafra Will come. But how. Is it through war.. Which some say isn't the case. So how does he intend to make it happe[/s]n

Receive sense

agboemma35:
Please reasonable answers and explanation cuz we see a strong agitation that biafra Will come. But how. Is it through war.. Which some say isn't the case. So how does he intend to make it happen

Referendum

gidgiddy:
Referendum

And who will initiate the referendum bill?

immhotep:
Receive sense

Who knows maybe Nnamdi Kanu is reading this and be waiting for sincere opinions on how to achieve Biafra.. Instead of you to also drop your contributions, you decided to go your normal way...

Bro/sis everything shouldn't be about playing all the time

helinues:
And who will initiate the referendum bill?

Nice question

helinues:
Only in a diplomatic way by turning Ipob to regional political party. Trust me by 2 cycle elections, they must have been controlling both Senate and reps seats in SE

Forming an alliance with any region that ready to work with them. Then they can present their grievances at both upper and lower chanbers

Seceeding take decades not just years cos if not, Catalonian supposed to be independent country today upon how ecomony viable they are

What would be the point of all this if it will still be other zones who will decide in both houses if they will go?

Its totally pointless

gidgiddy:
What would be the point of all this if it will still be other zones who will decide in both houses if they will go?

Its totally pointless

....so a war is the only option left then.

helinues:
And who will initiate the referendum bill?

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Who told you that they want a referendum bill initiated?

helinues:
You should have made your own contributions first before accepting or opposing others views

Fair enough, and I do agree with your views to SOME extent ... only deduction to that is the fact that any political re-alignments along regional lines, or party structure aimed at pushing for secession by IPOB or any Biafran move for that matter would still be stifled by a Northern dominated NASS... We can't pretend these isn't the current political reality in Nigeria... Nigeria is now the property of the North, and until the South unites (not necessarily agree on the same principles, but merge together to ruffle the North, and force them into some type of tight corner politically)... then every other conversation is just cognitive dissonance at its best.

gidgiddy:
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Who told you that they want a referendum bill initiated?

How do you get the referendum then?

gidgiddy:
What would be the point of all this if it will still be other zones who will decide in both houses if they will go?

Its totally pointless

Are those zones making the laws alone without partnering with other regions? You should rather asked why are the Southern Senators and Reps are notb demanding same favour from those who have been asking for their helps all the time

gidgiddy:
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Who told you that they want a referendum bill initiated?

War is your next option then

helinues:
War is your next option then

Don't mind him, he's been lectured on both options but go shouting referendum always, get your politicians involved or declare Biafra and face a war with the rest of Nigeria.

helinues:
Who knows maybe Nnamdi Kanu is reading this and be waiting for sincere opinions on how to achieve Biafra.. Instead of you to also drop your contributions, you decided to go your normal way...

Bro/sis everything shouldn't be about playing all the time

helinues, you surprised me with this comment,...
Take dis

Bikoko:
Fair enough, and I do agree with your views to SOME extent ... only deduction to that is the fact that any political re-alignments along regional lines, or party structure aimed at pushing for secession by IPOB or any Biafran move for that matter would still be stifled by a Northern dominated NASS... We can't pretend these isn't the current political reality in Nigeria... Nigeria is now the property of the North, and until the South unites (not necessarily agree on the same principles, but merge together to ruffle the North, and force them into some type of tight corner politically)... then every other conversation is just cognitive dissonance at its best.

Except for war , the only other means is through diplomatic way which is politics.. Scottish have reseasonable representatives under their regional party at both lower and upper house chamber in UK yet Britain never considered their referendum request.

You do not solve a problem by creating new ones. Funniest part about this Biafra issues, the people who are more concerned don't even have time to come with new approach while the suggestions made by outsiders are not only dumbed and ignored but also attacked.

If I am actually wishing success for my self, then it's a must to wish others the best

Area4Area:
Don't mind him, he's been lectured on both options but go shouting referendum always, get your politicians involved or declare Biafra and face a war with the rest of Nigeria.

Bro, if they go through the right means, they will definitely achieve Biafra cos I don't really think any region is really benefitting from this contraption called Nigeria.. But it all requires time and Patience that's only if no improvement

helinues:
Bro, if they go through the right means, they will definitely achieve Biafra cos I don't really think any region is really benefitting from this contraption called Nigeria.. But it all requires time and Patience that's only if no improvement

Exactly but would IPOB listen to good counsel? They want it their way which is asking for a war

helinues:
Who knows maybe Nnamdi Kanu is reading this and be waiting for sincere opinions on how to achieve Biafra.. Instead of you to also drop your contributions, you decided to go your normal way...

Bro/sis everything shouldn't be about playing all the time

Biafra amaka

Some people say that IPOB should turn it self into a political party, win elective positions in the upper and lower house, then sponsor a bill for referendum. This would have been an ideal thing to in a sane society

Unfortunately, Nigeria is not an ideal place and is far from being sane.

Even if IPOB became a political party, managed to win every elective position in the SE/SS, moved a bill for referendum at the national assembly, the other 4 zones will vote down the bill and all that effort would be for nothing.

The only way IPOB can get a referendum is to keep up their agitation until the National assembly moves a motion to grant referendum. IPOB's agitation was was starting to bear fruit around the time they were proscribed, even Arewa youths had started to urge the FG to help them get referendum

It wont be easy but I know that two things will happen in the next 5 years. Nigeria will collapse and Biafra will be free or a referendum will be granted. Either way, Biafra inevitable and it will require no war

Se person wey dey hide and sleep in different houses every night to avoid detection na him go bring war? ooooohhh, I laugh at Biafrans.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKmfHOPf3YU

[/quote][quote author=Bikoko post=86665860]At least you are half way through to been considered sane enough for an intelligent conversation... good take, even though you are still lacking in some grey areas of reasoning.

The best way, you would have sound quarter way to his opinion is for you buttress or against his/her opinion.

[/quote][quote author=gidgiddy post=86667393]Some people say that IPOB should turn it self into a political party, win elective positions in the upper and lower house, then sponsor a bill for referendum. This would have been an ideal thing to in a sane society

Unfortunately, Nigeria is not an ideal place and is far from being sane.

Even if IPOB became a political party, managed to win every elective position in the SE/SS, moved a bill for referendum at the national assembly, the other 4 zones will vote down the bill and all that effort would be for nothing.

The only way IPOB can get a referendum is to keep up their agitation until the National assembly moves a motion to grant referendum. IPOB's agitation was was starting to bear fruit around the time they were proscribed, even Arewa youths had started to urge the FG to help them get referendum

It wont be easy but I know that two things will happen in the next 5 years. Nigeria will collapse and Biafra will be free or a referendum will be granted. Either way, Biafra inevitable and it will require no war

They can form a political party and make build a bridge of friendship, relate with people of like-minded, let those with different reasoning understand their agitation.

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gidgiddy:
Some people say that IPOB should turn it self into a political party, win elective positions in the upper and lower house, then sponsor a bill for referendum. This would have been an ideal thing to in a sane society

Unfortunately, Nigeria is not an ideal place and is far from being sane.

Even if IPOB became a political party, managed to win every elective position in the SE/SS, moved a bill for referendum at the national assembly, the other 4 zones will vote down the bill and all that effort would be for nothing.

The only way IPOB can get a referendum is to keep up their agitation until the National assembly moves a motion to grant referendum. IPOB's agitation was was starting to bear fruit around the time they were proscribed, even Arewa youths had started to urge the FG to help them get referendum

It wont be easy but I know that two things will happen in the next 5 years. Nigeria will collapse and Biafra will be free or a referendum will be granted. Either way, Biafra inevitable and it will require no war

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Kaduna Declaration issued you the safest and quickest way out. Why didnt you go?

Stop blackmailing Nigeria.

gidgiddy:
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Who told you that they want a referendum bill initiated?

Notice how they're sneakily trying to point you (Biafra) in the direction of the useless National Assembly that they control and which is full of greedy, self-serving, anywhere-belle-face politicians (of all ethnicities) who are primed to torpedo any talk of referendum or secession just to protect and preserve their hustle!

aremuforlife:
They can form a political party and make build a bridge of friendship, relate with people of like-minded, let those with different reasoning understand their agitation.

It doesnt work like that, if a person has to understand why you should be free, this is a person who will never agree that you should be free.

Freedom is already your right, what should be discussed is the terms of separation