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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 9:14pm On Mar 07, 2020
Godx:
But his position is a big problem moving forward. We ideally want to be able to play through both flanks and with a Centre forward. Where will Messi fit in? Messi dropping drop leaves our right flank empty and griezmann is not a winger. Messi cannot longer play as a false 9 so where does he fit in.
Maybe we just haven't gotten the right next superstar.

Remember MSN?

Wasn't Neymar wreaking havoc on that left wing even with Messi on the pitch?


We've lost Neymar but I could swear that a healthy Dembele would have reduced our Messi dependency significantly.

Severally i saw Dembele ignoring Messi and going solo; taking on defences all by himself.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 9:15pm On Mar 07, 2020
ddippset:
Suarez should be phased out then let Griezman play top 9.

Let's see what he will say again.
Are you normal?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Astark: 9:15pm On Mar 07, 2020
hulk616:
GOAT Ronaldo met Fraud Messi in la liga and topped him. Left 2 years ago and fraud Messi can't still overtake him.
grin it's about penalty dumbass.

La ligadrid was given free penalties so that penaldo can score
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 9:18pm On Mar 07, 2020
haymekus:
Are you normal?
lol

How?

Since they desperately love Griezman and claim he is played out of position , that is the only way they can have him na.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 9:19pm On Mar 07, 2020
Astark:
grin it's about penalty dumbass.

La ligadrid was given free penalties so that penaldo can score
what was it about before ? Dumbass.

Fraud Messi has spent more years in la liga than GOAT Ronaldo and still has less penalty goals than him. You and fraud Messi should be ashamed.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Godx: 9:20pm On Mar 07, 2020
ddippset:
Maybe we just haven't gotten the right next superstar.

Remember MSN?

Wasn't Neymar wreaking havoc on that left wing even with Messi on the pitch?


We've lost Neymar but I could swear that a healthy Dembele would have reduced our Messi dependency significantly.

Several I saw Dembele ignoring Messi and going solo; taking on defences all by himself.
The last time we won champions league we had two wingers in Messi and Neymar causing havoc in both wings and Suarez dragging and bullying defenders. Messi position currently can't allow us play with 2 wingers. Messi has not played on the wing for barca for years now.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 9:20pm On Mar 07, 2020
Astark:
grin it's about penalty dumbass.

La ligadrid was given free penalties so that penaldo can score
Can't believe someone is bragging with penalties FFS.


grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 9:21pm On Mar 07, 2020
Godx:
The last time we won champions league we had two wingers in Messi and Neymar causing havoc in both wings and Suarez dragging and bullying defenders. Messi position currently can't allow us play with 2 wingers. Messi has not played on the wing for barca for years now.
Where's Messi playing now?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Godx: 9:22pm On Mar 07, 2020
Debroslink:
God forbids that My Barcelona will keep playing #PasstoMessi for the next 4 years.

I need a real coach that will change this useless tactic.
No top coach will entertain the Barca job until the old core are gone and that includes Messi.
Majority of time he is still the best ever on the ball but the balance of the team is completely off as he takes next to no part in a consistent pressing game, doesnt hold a position and doesnt run off ball.
Add that to Suarez, Busi and Pique and as Setien has realised the tactics seem to settle on how Valverde approached it with a bit more pointless passing from the back.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Godx: 9:23pm On Mar 07, 2020
ddippset:
Where's Messi playing now?
Messi is basically roaming just behind the striker and dropping back when he feels like.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 9:25pm On Mar 07, 2020
ddippset:
Seriously am already preparing for what is to come.

By the time Messi leaves we shall become ordinary.

What is special about Griezman?
The bold is a big freaking lie. We are already an ordinary team that a decent team can overrun anytime once they dislodge Messi. Unfortunately, Messi of nowadays can be easily dislodged than any other time before.

The reason Griezmann and all our attacking players are playing rubbish is because the #PasstoMessi tactics has made them redundant. Take this Griezmann to another major team and see him flourish. Look at Braithwaite when he came on against Madrid, he had an immediate impact on goal in his 1st minute. I told my guys then that it was because he hasn't been taught the #PasstoMessi tactics. Today, Braithwaite has started playing that annoying tactics. He can't be himself again.

I need a coach that will make all my attacking players a threat to goal. I want my attacking players to see the net and fire, not looking for Messi to pass to, who may have be surrounded by 3 or more players.

MSN of those days supplied 121 goals, MEH gave me 100 goals, MVP gave me 97 goals a season each.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 9:25pm On Mar 07, 2020
Eruditor:
For what finals?
Against Napoli
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Astark: 9:26pm On Mar 07, 2020
hulk616:
what was it about before ? Dumbass.

Fraud Messi has spent more years in la liga than GOAT Ronaldo and still has less penalty goals than him. You and fraud Messi should be ashamed.
angry it's finished I'm never argue with you again
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 9:27pm On Mar 07, 2020
Godx:
Griezmann is just another Dybala situation to me. They are not compatible because they operate in the same space. If you want griezmann to flourish you give him a free role in the team.
Does he play the same free role in France?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Godx: 9:30pm On Mar 07, 2020
FirstbornWds:
Does he play the same free role in France?
Yes he does. He plays just behind Giroud as a supporting striker and free to roam into pocket of space. Same with when he was at Atletico Madrid.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 9:31pm On Mar 07, 2020
Godx:
Exactly You cannot build a team around a 33 year old Messi any more. Xavi was phased out. Iniesta was phased out. It's time for Barca to contemplate phasing out Messi little by little.
Lol. I'll have to disagree with you on this.
It's not really a big deal to be dependent on Messi. He has proven times without number to be more than capable to handle the burden but somehow, I think what we need is a solid team that wouldn't be overly dependent and even they are, it shouldn't be too apparent.

Even Ronaldo at Real Madrid suffered the same fate. The only difference was that they had the players who were "matured" enough to realize immediately when he's having a bad game. That's the same level of team spirit we need for Barcelona.

Phasing out Messi isn't really right yet. We need just more than that.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Astark: 9:33pm On Mar 07, 2020
grin he said his last penalty goal is tommorow.

This guy with wicked mouth

Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 9:33pm On Mar 07, 2020
Godx:
Yes he does. He plays just behind Giroud as a supporting striker and free to roam into pocket of space. Same with when he was at Atletico Madrid.
Don't forget France another box-like striker in Mbappe. Truth that Grizzy is being played out of position but I seriously think he's not manning up to the responsibility to be given a free role just yet. He needs to show more class than what he's doing presently.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 9:34pm On Mar 07, 2020
Astark:
angry it's finished I'm never argue with you again
ok. I m sorry that the truth hurts you. cry
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 9:34pm On Mar 07, 2020
Astark:
grin he said his last penalty goal is tommorow.

This guy with wicked mouth
Lol. This is wickedly hilarious
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by pu7pl3(m): 9:37pm On Mar 07, 2020
Godx:
Did I insult you?
Most of the Cules that go here don't have sense bruh..they can't hold a conversation without insulting you
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Godx: 9:38pm On Mar 07, 2020
FirstbornWds:
Lol. I'll have to disagree with you on this.
It's not really a big deal to be dependent on Messi. He has proven times without number to be more than capable to handle the burden but somehow, I think what we need is a solid team that wouldn't be overly dependent and even they are, it shouldn't be too apparent.

Even Ronaldo at Real Madrid suffered the same fate. The only difference was that they had the players who were "matured" enough to realize immediately when he's having a bad game. That's the same level of team spirit we need for Barcelona.

Phasing out Messi isn't really right yet. We need just more than that.
Age is not on Messi side. We need to start planning ahead and when I mean phase it doesn't mean just drop him out no. We have to try to turn the focal point of the team to somebody else . Try competing at top when midfield have to adapt to a player that cant/wont track back and adapt to the lack of options from players running off ball etc.
Messi when ball in his area is best ever but off the ball he is Barcas biggest weakness in terms of attacking/defending as a unit.

Sociedad targetted our right side all night and we were lucky they did not get more joy from it.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Jokerman(m): 9:38pm On Mar 07, 2020
Lionel Pessi
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Godx: 9:41pm On Mar 07, 2020
FirstbornWds:
Don't forget France another box-like striker in Mbappe. Truth that Grizzy is being played out of position but I seriously think he's not manning up to the responsibility to be given a free role just yet. He needs to show more class than what he's doing presently.
You don't buy a Ferrari and drive it like a fiat. We have bought strikers before and play them at wingers Henry,villa etc and was successfully because we had every body pressing to win back the ball and a World class midfield under a great tactical coach. Now we don't have that luxury anymore.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 9:42pm On Mar 07, 2020
Debroslink:
The bold is a big freaking lie. We are already an ordinary team that a decent team can overrun anytime once they dislodge Messi. Unfortunately, Messi of nowadays can be easily dislodged than any other time before.

The reason Griezmann and all our attacking players are playing rubbish is because the #PasstoMessi tactics has made them redundant. Take this Griezmann to another major team and see him flourish. Look at Braithwaite when he came on against Madrid, he had an immediate impact on goal in his 1st minute. I told my guys then that it was because he hasn't been taught the #PasstoMessi tactics. Today, Braithwaite has started playing that annoying tactics. He can't be himself again.

I need a coach that will make all my attacking players a threat to goal. I want my attacking players to see the net and fire, not looking for Messi to pass to, who may have be surrounded by 3 or more players.

MSN of those days supplied 121 goals, MEH gave me 100 goals, MVP gave me 97 goals a season each.
We are still not ordinary yet trust me.

Last season we won the league title UNBEATEN and reached the Champions league semi finals with classics at Wembley and Old Trafford.

When he leaves you will understand better what I mean by ordinary.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 9:43pm On Mar 07, 2020
Godx:
Age is not on Messi side. We need to start planning ahead and when I mean phase it doesn't mean just drop him out no. We have to try to turn the focal point of the team to somebody else . Try competing at top when midfield have to adapt to a player that cant/wont track back and adapt to the lack of options from players running off ball etc.
Messi when ball in his area is best ever but off the ball he is Barcas biggest weakness in terms of attacking/defending as a unit.

Sociedad targetted our right side all night and we were lucky they did not get more joy from it.
I beg to differ. Messi's area is the weakest Barcelona link and it'd be very unfair to claim that he doesn't offer anything to the defense when off the ball.

The pattern of Sociedad was simple. Try to create disturbances on the left wing and then move to the right when all focus is still on the left and judging with the way our defenses play high-line, they felt it would be advantageous for them to score with this tactics.

The same can be said for most of our matches even in the El-classico. Madrid had to switch to relying on Vinicus pace when they saw that the cross and nod pattern would thoroughly be a waste.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 9:46pm On Mar 07, 2020
Godx:
Age is not on Messi side. We need to start planning ahead and when I mean phase it doesn't mean just drop him out no. We have to try to turn the focal point of the team to somebody else . Try competing at top when midfield have to adapt to a player that cant/wont track back and adapt to the lack of options from players running off ball etc.
Messi when ball in his area is best ever but off the ball he is Barcas biggest weakness in terms of attacking/defending as a unit.

Sociedad targetted our right side all night and we were lucky they did not get more joy from it.
When you say somebody else,

I could think of Neymar, Mbappe, De Bryune.

But definitely not Griezman.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 9:48pm On Mar 07, 2020
Godx:
You don't buy a Ferrari and drive it like a fiat. We have bought strikers before and play them at wingers Henry,villa etc and was successfully because we had every body pressing to win back the ball and a World class midfield under a great tactical coach. Now we don't have that luxury anymore.
You're beginning to get the point. I am not saying Grizzy is that bad but claiming that his role mismanagement is a major cause of his decline is not overly true.

The problem is the lack of creativeness from the midfield and from our side backs. A constant display of what Alba did tonight during the last 20 minutes will definitely make Griezman a goal beast even from the wings (Remember the pair that led to an off-target shot against Madrid in the Classico), that's what I'm talking about.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 9:50pm On Mar 07, 2020
ddippset:
When you say somebody else,

I could think of Neymar, Mbappe, De Bryune.

But definitely not Griezman.
KDB or Bernado Silva would be best choice now for our team. Personally, I can categorically prefer this Werner guy because of his all-round adaptive feature. Neymar has ALWAYS been an option.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 9:51pm On Mar 07, 2020
Ronnie, Messi,...........

Heaven please send us another prodigy.

All these Griezman, Dembele, and co are not even close to what made us special.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Godx: 9:52pm On Mar 07, 2020
FirstbornWds:
You're beginning to get the point. I am not saying Grizzy is that bad but claiming that his role mismanagement is a major cause of his decline is not overly true.

The problem is the lack of creativeness from the midfield and from our side backs. A constant display of what Alba did tonight during the last 20 minutes will definitely make Griezman a goal beast even from the wings (Remember the pair that led to an off-target shot against Madrid in the Classico), that's what I'm talking about.
You can't shoehorn Griezmann to the wings and expect him to be successful it's the same with Dybala. Those two players are more effective when they are the focal point of a team or at least have free roles. It's the same reason Messi and Dybala can't operate together at Argentina and it's the same reason griezmann won't be effective at barca. I really hope I am wrong
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 9:53pm On Mar 07, 2020
Godx:
You can't shoehorn Griezmann to the wings and expect him to be successful it's the same with Dybala. Those two players are more effective when they are the focal point of a team or at least have free roles. It's the same reason Messi and Dybala can't operate together at Argentina and it's the same reason griezmann won't be effective at barca. I really hope I am wrong
So if you were to bench or sell one of Messi and Griezman,
Who would it be?
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