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Comedian2019:
NIV endorsed by JWs?

OP you can lie o!

Their's is New World Translation, not NIV.

Comedian2019:
NIV endorsed by JWs?

OP you can lie o!

Theirs is New World Translation, not NIV.

Enn214:
I just cross-checked now & discovered it's also missing there

Enn214:
I read that it was written by the new world order - Freemasons & Illuminatists, that don't believe that Jesus (alone) is the saviour of the world.
...Including the New World Translation endorsed by the Jehovah Witness...


See the verse below, & share your thoughts

Lalasticlala

Janosky:
Enn214 Y U deceive yourself?
JWs believe the words of Jesus Christ in John3:16-17. John20:17.
KJV Matt18:11 was lifted from Luke 19:10 . NIV,NWT were translated from older manuscripts discovered after KJV was published...
NIV,NWT are more accurate than KJV as fas as Matt18:11 is concerned

Enn214:
I read that it was written by the new world order - Freemasons & Illuminatists, that don't believe that Jesus (alone) is the saviour of the world.
...Including the New World Translation endorsed by the Jehovah Witness...


See the verse below, & share your thoughts

Lalasticlala

The verse is missing from some of the Bibles because the passage does not actually appear in the best early Greek manuscripts which contain Matthew. It is important to remember that the New Testament was written in Greek. These original documents called “autographs” were copied and passed from one person to another. In the process of making copies, errors would occur sometimes. Sometimes words were misspelled, words were left out, and on rare occasions, some copyists would insert some words. Today there are more than 5,800 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament in our possession. In addition there are other manuscripts of the New Testament making the total 24,633 manuscripts. By using a process called textual criticism scholars have been able to determine very accurately how the original “autographs” should read. A better explanation of textual criticism and the accuracy of our Bible is available from an article at the following link, “How Accurate Is The Bible?” The conclusion of that article says that the Bible is 99.8% accurate and no doctrines are affected. There is no other ancient book in existence with so many copies and with so little error. The Bible is really unique. The Bible is very accurate!

Textual criticism has determined that verse 11 should not exist in Matthew 18 since it does not appear in the oldest and best manuscripts:

B – Vatcanus
א – Sinaitius
L – Regius
Θ – Koridethi
1 – Basle
1582 – Mt. Athos
1346 – Jerusalem
33 – Paris[1]

The inclusion or exclusion of Matthew 18:11 does not affect Christ’s message or any doctrine. Alfred Plummer (A.D. 1841-1926) writes,

The whole of ver. 11, “For the Son of Man came to save that which was lost” is rightly omitted as an interpolation from Lk. xix. 10. It is wanting in א B L and other important authorities, and is rejected by all editors. It was probably inserted to make an introduction to the parable of the Lost Sheep, which follows somewhat abruptly. But the insertion spoils rather than helps the connexion between ver. 10 and ver. 12.[2]

The Expositor’s Bible Commentary, edited by Frank Gaebelein, says that verse 11 was,

Omitted in the earliest witnesses of the Alexandria, pre-Caesarean, Egyptian, and Antiochene text types.[3]

In William Henrickson’s commentary on Matthew he comments,

The words, “For the Son of Man is coming to save that which was lost,” c.f. verse 11 in A.V., are lacking in the best manuscripts and were probably inserted from Luke 19:10.[4]

R. C. H. Lenski, the Lutheran scholar, adds this about verse 11,

The textual evidence against this verse is so strong that we must cancel it from Matthew’s account. It was probably inserted from Luke 19:10.[5]

In the MacArthur New Testament Commentary, John MacArthur writes,

As indicated by brackets in the NASB text, verse 11 (For the Son of Man has come to save that which is lost) is not found in the best early manuscripts of this gospel.[6]

Grant Osborne, in his commentary on Matthew states,

Verse 11 (“For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost”) is added in several manuscripts (D L c TR lat et al.) but missing in others . . . and most likely was added in assimilation to Luke 19:10 and because it aptly fits the imagery of v. 12.[7]

The recognized authority in the field of biblical textual criticism is Bruce M Metzger. He states that Matthew 18:11 is “spurious” and was inserted by a copyists.

There can be little doubt that the words ἦλθεν γὰρ ὁ υἱὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου (ζητῆσαι καὶ) σῶσαι τὸ ἀπολωλός are spurious here, being absent from the earliest witnesses representing several textual types (Alexandrian, Egyptian, Antiochian), and manifestly borrowed by copyists from Lk 19.10. The reason for the interpolation was apparently to provide a connection between ver. 10 and verses 12-14.[8]

Some biblical scholars have simply excluded Matthew 18:11 from their books. Their commentaries skip from verse 10 to verse 12. Here is a brief list of a few noted authors:

Davies and Allison. Matthew. The International Critical Commentary [9]

R. T. France. The Gospel of Matthew. The New International Commentary on the New Testament.[10]

John Nolland. The Gospel of Matthew. The New International Greek Testament Commentary.[11]

Did Copyists Insert Matthew 18:11?

It is widely agreed that someone copied Luke 19:10 and inserted it into Matthew 18:11. The copyists probably recognized that Luke 19:10 had recorded the same event and thought it would be helpful to “improve” Matthew 18:11 with the addition. Here is both Mathew 18:11 and Luke 19:10,

For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost. Matthew 18:11 (NASB)

For the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost.” Luke 19:10 (NASB)

The only difference between these two verses is the phrase “to seek.” It is important to note that while Matthew 18:11 should not exist in our Bibles, the verse does accurately describe what occurred. It captures the sense of Luke 19:10. This discrepancy does not impact what is true or what we believe. It does not affect any doctrine. https://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/why-is-verse-11-missing-in-matthew-18/