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Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by Riduane: 6:06pm On Mar 24, 2020
LordReed:
Well, I don't pray to a god for anything however people like you do and that doesn't seem to do anything to remedy the situation.
How much do you understand 'prayer' in Islam?
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by LordReed(m): 6:15pm On Mar 24, 2020
Riduane:
How much do you understand 'prayer' in Islam?
Not much, enlighten me.
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by Riduane: 7:19pm On Mar 24, 2020
LordReed:
Not much, enlighten me.
But you were so in a haste to make conclusion as to how prayer is not going to remedy the situation. How about you do yourself a favor by getting to know much about Islam before making hasty conclusions? I suppose that's how knowledge is attained. Isn't it?
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by LordReed(m): 7:32pm On Mar 24, 2020
Riduane:
But you were so in a haste to make conclusion as to how prayer is not going to remedy the situation. How about you do yourself a favor by getting to know much about Islam before making hasty conclusions? I suppose that's how knowledge is attained. Isn't it?
Maybe if you weren't so hasty to jump to conclusions you'd understand my reply. I wrote: that doesn't seem to do anything. Does that look like a claim that there is no effect after telling you I don't know much about prayer in Islam? It doesn't seem to do anything from where I stand, if it does you should be glad to set me straight.
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by AntiChristian: 5:45pm On Mar 25, 2020
tintingz:
So what's the use of having a powerful deity?
His use in what way? Is everyone dying? Those who would be tried would be tried! Those who would die would die!

That's what makes us cherish life and use it appropriately in worship!
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by AntiChristian: 5:50pm On Mar 25, 2020
advocatejare:
Good question. This is even an opportunity to obey their prophet's instructions and embrace plague and die like martyr. Since martyrs in Islam are promised automatic ticket to heaven.
This is the time to embrace plagues by Muslims



Why are the people of Saudi not embracing opportunity to be a martyr? And why are they preventing other Muslims to come and die of plagues in the Holy land?
Anuofia!

67 Italian Priests Have Died Of Coronavirus
https://www.channelstv.com/2020/03/25/67-italian-priests-have-died-of-coronavirus/

Who killed them? Jesus, Jehovah, Satan or Coronavirus?

Argue with your keyboard....I dey busy!
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by advocatejare(m): 6:50pm On Mar 25, 2020
AntiChristian:
Anuofia!

67 Italian Priests Have Died Of Coronavirus
https://www.channelstv.com/2020/03/25/67-italian-priests-have-died-of-coronavirus/

Who killed them? Jesus, Jehovah, Satan or Coronavirus?

Argue with your keyboard....I dey busy!
https://www.nairaland.com/5722995/imam-opposed-qurantine-claimed-allah

Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by tintingz(op): 11:41pm On Mar 25, 2020
Riduane:
You don't pray to God, that's your problem. You don't believe in God/Gods and prayers.. Does that make stop God from existing or does that stop prayers from not getting answered? How and why do you concern yourself with people that believe in God and prayer?
I don't pray to God and I'm ok with my life.

There's no prayer answered by anyone, you can survive without prayers!

And yes God will stop existing when no one prays because it's all man-made.

How does this answer my questions?
To answer you, why can't God heal or move you way from a moving trailer? Is God not omnipotent? Or how can you tell God is doing something?
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by tintingz(op): 11:46pm On Mar 25, 2020
AntiChristian:
His use in what way? Is everyone dying? Those who would be tried would be tried! Those who would die would die!
So basically God is the cause of evil?

That's what makes us cherish life and use it appropriately in worship!
What happen to paradise, are you scared to go there?
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by AntiChristian: 5:55am On Mar 26, 2020
tintingz:
So basically God is the cause of evil?

What happen to paradise, are you scared to go there?
1. The definition of evil is subjective. For example, most people have no problem with Abacha dying. But those who directly benefited from him would think otherwise.

At the opposite end is MKO.

Evil is subjective.

2. We all die when our time is up. Nothing will stop you from dying when your time is up. The amount of food, air, etc you'll consume is written. Once it's exausted...
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by AntiChristian:
advocatejare:
https://www.nairaland.com/5722995/imam-opposed-qurantine-claimed-allah
He went against the Sunnah of the Prophet though! But has he died?

And Tawhidi is popular with anti islamic opinions that any serious Muslim wouldn't follow such!

Back to the questions.

Who killed those 67 priests in Italy? Jesus, Yahweh, Satan or Coronavirus?

Where are your miracle gospellers?
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by tintingz(op): 7:44am On Mar 26, 2020
AntiChristian:
1. The definition of evil is subjective. For example, most people have no problem with Abacha dying. But those who directly benefited from him would think otherwise.

At the opposite end is MKO.

Evil is subjective.
So you're saying there's no absolute morality as theists claim?

2. We all die when our time is up. Nothing will stop you from dying when your time is up. The amount of food, air, etc you'll consume is written. Once it's exausted...
So why is the Kaaba closed down if y'all are not scared of dying?
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by AntiChristian: 7:58am On Mar 26, 2020
tintingz:
So you're saying there's no absolute morality as theists claim?
Morality lies in the Divine law! Evil is what I discussed.


tintingz:
why is the Kaaba closed down if y'all are not scared of dying?
It was closed down in line with the Sunnah of the Prophet.
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by tintingz(op): 11:14am On Mar 26, 2020
AntiChristian:
Morality lies in the Divine law! Evil is what I discussed.
Isn't morality about good and evil.

Are you not contradicting your belief? If evil is subjective as you said, this means the evil concept as mentioned in the Quran is subjective therefore God's punishment is base on what?

It was closed down in line with the Sunnah of the Prophet.
The Prophet doesn't trust his God power?
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by AntiChristian: 12:34pm On Mar 26, 2020
tintingz:
Isn't morality about good and evil.

Are you not contradicting your belief? If evil is subjective as you said, this means the evil concept as mentioned in the Quran is subjective therefore God's punishment is base on what?

The Prophet doesn't trust his God power?
Who said anything about the Qur'anic interpretation of morality or evil? Humans define evil differently. Your death can be seemed as evil to some but to the land digger, burial ground coordinator, etc na just to smile to the bank.

Stop all this your off points it tiresome!
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by advocatejare(m): 7:38pm On Mar 26, 2020
AntiChristian:
He went against the Sunnah of the Prophet though! But has he died?
He actually embraced the Sunnah of embracing plagues and dying like a martyr of Islam

And Tawhidi is popular with anti islamic opinions that any serious Muslim wouldn't follow such!
So are you saying that he's not a Muslim?

Back to the questions.

Who killed those 67 priests in Italy? Jesus, Yahweh, Satan or Coronavirus?

Where are your miracle gospellers?
If the Quran brings healing to mankind, why are you imams and Muslim brothers not using Quran to get cured of corona? If Allah is powerful, why is his shrine, the Kaaba closed down in Mecca,?
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by tintingz(op): 12:07am On Mar 27, 2020
AntiChristian:
Who said anything about the Qur'anic interpretation of morality or evil? Humans define evil differently. Your death can be seemed as evil to some but to the land digger, burial ground coordinator, etc na just to smile to the bank.

Stop all this your off points it tiresome!
What about Good, is it subjective?
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by AntiChristian: 5:07am On Mar 27, 2020
tintingz:
What about Good, is it subjective?
Is it impossible for you to stay in this discussion?
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by AntiChristian: 5:12am On Mar 27, 2020
advocatejare:
He actually embraced the Sunnah of embracing plagues and dying like a martyr of Islam

So are you saying that he's not a Muslim?

If the Quran brings healing to mankind, why are you imams and Muslim brothers not using Quran to get cured of corona? If Allah is powerful, why is his shrine, the Kaaba closed down in Mecca,?
1. Mention how many companions of the Prophet who embraced plague as directed from the Prophet?

2. He may be. And he may not be. The latter is closer than the former to me. But Allah knows best his case at this moment in time.

3. The same reason why Job was afflicted in your Bible.

So can you now answer who killed those 67 Italian priests now?

A. Jehovah

B. Jesus

C. Satan

D. Coronavirus
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by advocatejare(m):
AntiChristian:
1. Mention how many companions of the Prophet who embraced plague as directed from the Prophet?
You should be the one to tell us now, you should be be the one to be proud of how Muhammad's companions believed in his words and embrace his advice

2. He may be. And he may not be. The latter is closer than the former to me. But Allah knows best his case at this moment in time.
Of course, for being a truth sayer, who uses his brain and doesn't believe in nonsenses like black cumin and camel's urine being a cure to all diseases, and that Quran brings healing to mankind(when it couldn't cure Muhammad of the poison he ate) you will deny him being a Muslim. Reasonable people are never Muslims

3. The same reason why Job was afflicted in your Bible.
Or the same reason Muhammad was afflicted how he got poisoned, writhed in excruciating pains, dragged his foot on the ground even when supported by two men, how magic worked on him and he was hallucinating sleeping with women when he actually didn't?

So can you now answer who killed those 67 Italian priests now?

A. Jehovah

B. Jesus

C. Satan

D. Coronavirus
I will answer you only if you tell me who killed the 2000+ Iranians that died during this corona saga, and other Muslims who have died worldwide.
What/Who killed them
A. Allah
B. Muhammad
C. Satan
D. Gabriel
E. Coronavirus
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by AntiChristian: 9:25am On Mar 27, 2020
advocatejare:
You should be the one to tell us now, you should be be the one to be proud of how Muhammad's companions believed in his words and embrace is advice

Of course, for being a truth sayer, who uses his brain and doesn't believe in nonsenses like black cumin and camel's urine being a cure to all diseases, and that Quran brings healing to mankind(when it couldn't cure Muhammad of the poison he ate) you will deny him being a Muslim. Reasonable people are never Muslims

Or the same reason Muhammad was afflicted how he got poisoned, writhed in excruciating pains, dragged his foot on the ground even when supported by two men, how magic worked on him and he was hallucinating sleeping with women when he actually didn't?

I will answer you only if you tell me who killed the 2000+ Iranians that died during this corona saga, and other Muslims who have died worldwide.
What/Who killed them
A. Allah
B. Muhammad
C. Satan
D. Gabriel
E. Coronavirus
Since you refuse to answer! Odabo.
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by advocatejare(m): 9:30am On Mar 27, 2020
AntiChristian:
Since you refuse to answer! Odabo.
Answer me first ogbeni and I will answer you too.

I will simply use your folly to answer your folly.

Proverbs 26:5
Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by Empiree: 5:15pm On Apr 05, 2020
advocatejare:
Good question. This is even an opportunity to obey their prophet's instructions and embrace plague and die like martyr. Since martyrs in Islam are promised automatic ticket to heaven.
This is the time to embrace plagues by Muslims



Why are the people of Saudi not embracing opportunity to be a martyr? And why are they preventing other Muslims to come and die of plagues in the Holy land?
strawman. Silly argument
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by Alhajiemeritus: 7:36am On Apr 07, 2020
tintingz:
I don't pray to God and I'm ok with my life.

There's no prayer answered by anyone, you can survive without prayers!

And yes God will stop existing when no one prays because it's all man-made.



To answer you, why can't God heal or move you way from a moving trailer? Is God not omnipotent? Or how can you tell God is doing something?
Interesting stance ...
So you believe God works in the abracadabra format?
Too much misunderstanding
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by tintingz(op): 7:58am On Apr 07, 2020
Alhajiemeritus:
Interesting stance ...
So you believe God works in the abracadabra format?
Too much misunderstanding
In the Qur'an claims yes.
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by Alhajiemeritus: 9:36am On Apr 07, 2020
tintingz:
In the Qur'an claims yes.
Give me a verse or chapter in the Qur'an where the Qur'an says God works in abracadabra format.

Let me remind you of the story of Ayoub who was plagued with disease, he pleaded to the Almighty for so many years until the sickness almost got hold of his tongue.
It was at that time, Allah turned around his sickness and no not by abcradabra, he was commanded to bathe in a special water which has the cure....
Note, he had to bathe in the water.
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by YorubaKinging: 8:01pm On Apr 07, 2020
So, so Islam did talk about the end times
But as always it's fictional characters they told you on your Quran that fell from heaven

hakeemhakeem:
Truly ignorance is diseases,this is not the first disease in the world and it's won't be the last since we won't stop inventions and others related research. I knew you have Islam phobia disease but the only cure is to get knowledge of Islam am not saying you should practice it.this convid 19 is even small when the end time is closer,some scary animals will still appears just like those Hollywood movie with giant creation. Islam thought us when something like convid 19 comes up we should quarantine ourselves from the affected areas
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by tintingz(op): 2:32pm On Apr 08, 2020
Alhajiemeritus:
Give me a verse or chapter in the Qur'an where the Qur'an says God works in abracadabra format.

Let me remind you of the story of Ayoub who was plagued with disease, he pleaded to the Almighty for so many years until the sickness almost got hold of his tongue.
It was at that time, Allah turned around his sickness and no not by abcradabra, he was commanded to bathe in a special water which has the cure....
Note, he had to bathe in the water.
Your Prophet splitting the moon is not abracadabra?

Moses splitting the sea is not abracadabra?
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by advocatejare(m): 3:20pm On Apr 09, 2020
Empiree:
strawman. Silly argument
Always pained when dazed with facts
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by Empiree: 4:49pm On Apr 09, 2020
advocatejare:
Always pained when dazed with facts
see kiriyo backed Atheist.

Confused fellow
Re: Why Is The Grand Mosque In Mecca Closed Down Because Of Coronavirus? by advocatejare(m): 4:59pm On Apr 09, 2020
Empiree:
see kiriyo backed Atheist.

Confused fellow
E pain am, I hope you're enjoying how I've been setting your ass on fire grin

Muhammad has given the chance to die as a martyr, with automatic ticket to his sex party paradise. You'd better embrace it, embrace corona to go and meet your prophet

Narrated By Abu Huraira
The Prophet said, "He (a Muslim) who dies of an abdominal disease is a martyr, and he who dies of plague is a martyr."
Sahih Bukhari 7:71:623
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