tylann:

It is super clean that is what I meant
Yeah I know where you are heading to
The guy has tried

Yes kagame have done something over there. That is the product of our intelligence unit, a Tanzania's trained spy.

obaaderemi:
Wassup, bro. Hope you are keeping safe with this virus thing.

Sure bro? Hope you're doing same.

tylann:

Of course Kenya is the giant of east Africa
Economically and all development matters we beat all our neighbours but militarily even Uganda will make Kenya sweat

You are not a giant. If you are honest about yourself, just accept,there is no a really big boy in east Africa.Only TZ has that much potential currently, but you,you kiberans,pliz start on doing the basics like having enough food to feed yourselves.There is no way you can be a giant while receiving food donations

gallivant:


Don't be fooled. Uganda had occupied Tanzanian provinces for time until Israel and the USSR got involved. The Tanzanian forces were hiding in Zanzibar.

Pwahapwapwa Pwahapwapwa Pwahapwapwa
Jeolous will kill you.we beat Uganda.while Kenya has never tested a victory in any war! Not yet.Tag me when you win over someone.

forgiveness:


Show me ships and armoured tanks singlehandedly made by South Africans. I want to show you something.

Pic 1: SAS Drakensberg, Largest ship ever built in Africa

Pic 2: Olifant MK2 MBT

pacretus:
Exercise means nada.
India did same but in real war your submarine would kiss the sea bed singing Kumbaya and your national anthem, kilisikele le Sautafrikia.

Jf 17 block 2 is a 4th gen good fighter block 1 is a 3rd gen.

I'm not in the military to list them.
You can wait till eternity and grow old .

Only few gripens less than 12 are functioning, So?

But you lack aviation fuel and your pilots run to foreign airlines for jobs, how then do you fly those sorties? In your dreams I guess.
You bring a citation on that.

"Exercise means nada." Probably the dumbest thing i'v ever heard you say, and secondly when did India do the same

Regardless If the JF17 is 3rd of 4th Gen.....In terms of capability its far less superior to the Gripen.....And you are only getting 3 of them

You don't need to be in the Military to list them the fact is you don't have any, the only ones you had were Roland SAMs which have been obsolete for decades now.

All 26 are operational: South African Air Force boosts Gripen availability
"Previous low availability of South African Air Force (SAAF) Saab Gripen C/Ds has been overcome by bringing stored aircraft back into service, says Lt Col Josias Mashaba, commanding officer of the service's 2 Sqn."

jln115:
Because if you check my profile you'll see im an avid military follower and enthusiast, and I do a lot of reading on African defence matters.

Nigeria has only just started producing MRAPS they do not posses the means to produce Tanks or ships as of yet.

However both P18N OPVs NNS unity and Centenary were built in Nigeria but by Hudong-Zhonghua Shipbuilding.

No offence but i know more about the Nigerian defence force than you

imagine

pacretus:
let's All agree Angola is above Southafrica.


Morocco is 3rd in Africa, and far above Southafrica. What S.A. has to boast of are:

1 shark chasing submarine, few old olifant Thanks, a good number of Apcs and MRAP, some artilleries, Morocco doubles or trippls what you have from sky to sea. Please argue with a clear mind, no major purchase for SANDF in years,
You lack pilots and Aviation fuel.

Angola is strong but just like Ethiopia, no one would really take them serious.

In terms of what is Angola above ?

Also we might have only 200 Tanks but 180 of them are Modern Mk1B and MK2 variants and in terms of our Air force, we have more Fighters, Transport Aircraft and helicopters than Morocco, they only beat us in terms of tanks and artillery, however South Africa being a leader in artillery technology our artillery are some of the most accurate and longest firing artillery in the world, infact the G6 SPH is still the longest firing 155mm artillary piece in the world and the G5 is still the longest firing towed howitzer in the world.

Also we have 3 subs and 4 Frigates......thats 3 more Frigates and 3 more subs than Morocco.

Also Major purchases the SANDF has made recently:
276 Badger IFVs
New ground based air defence system( includes 35mm guns, Radar and Umkhonto SAMs)
6 T6-52 Howitzers
S-400 armed drones
Acquisition of Milan missiles
Acquisition of 120 Gecko vehicles
Several Boats for SFs
Husky mine detection vehicles


Should i go one?

Problemkid1:
imagine

No need to imagine it mate........its reality

jln115:


Pic 1: SAS Drakensberg, Largest ship ever built in Africa

Pic 2: Olifant MK2 MBT

Is this not the one Isreal helped you to build? I am talking about the tank.

forgiveness:


Is this not the one Isreal helped you to build? I am talking about the tank.

Maybe you or some other idi0t edited wikipedia but the Olifant was never designed with the help of Israel we simply bought US built engines from them.

Maybe next time try getting a reputable source

forgiveness:


Hahahaha! The guy japa.

Na em get himself ne him for no japa Na, make Ogun fire am there

jln115:


Pic 1: SAS Drakensberg, Largest ship ever built in Africa

Pic 2: Olifant MK2 MBT

That ship is old and just one. Nigeria keeps building and improving every day.

jln115:

Maybe you or some other idi0t edited wikipedia but the Olifant was never designed with the help of Israel we simply bought US built engines from them.

Maybe next time try getting a reputable source

What is my business with editting wiki?

South Africa never built that singlehandedly without a foreign help. Fact.

Problemkid1:
Na em get himself ne him for no japa Na, make Ogun fire am there

Hahahaha!

forgiveness:


What is my business with editting wiki?

South Africa never built that singlehandedly with a foreign help. Fact.

Here are a number of reptuable sources on the Olifant MBT

http://www.military-today.com/tanks/olifant_mk2.htm
https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/modern/south-africa/Olifant-mk2-main-battle-tank/
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/resources/fact-files/fact-file-the-olifant-main-battle-tank/
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/rsa/olifant.htm

Find me a single sentence were it states Israel helped designed the Olifant MBT............the only thing they did was sell us US built engines which South Africa later on produced itself!!

forgiveness:


That ship is old and just one. Nigeria keeps building and improving every day.

Still the largest ship built in Africa.

And we are in the top 20 defence industries in the world....our weapon systems are used by countries all over the world

jln115:

Maybe you or some other idi0t edited wikipedia but the Olifant was never designed with the help of Israel we simply bought US built engines from them.

Maybe next time try getting a reputable source

You want a reputable source. Reputable source you shall get.

Can you please confirm if the BAE system is a South African company? Bhuhahahaha!

In 2003 and 2005 BAE Systems received contracts to upgrade a total of 26 South African Olifant Mk.1B main battle tanks to the Olifant Mk.2 standard. The Mk.2 uses a number of components, previously developed for the TTD. First vehicles were scheduled for delivery in 2006 - 2007.

http://www.military-today.com/tanks/olifant_mk2.htm

jln115:

Here are a number of reptuable sources on the Olifant MBT

http://www.military-today.com/tanks/olifant_mk2.htm
https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/modern/south-africa/Olifant-mk2-main-battle-tank/
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/resources/fact-files/fact-file-the-olifant-main-battle-tank/
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/rsa/olifant.htm

Find me a single sentence were it states Israel helped designed the Olifant MBT............the only thing they did was sell us US built engines which South Africa later on produced itself!!

I have gotten a better source. Look up.

forgiveness:


You want a reputable source. Reputable source you shall get.

Can you please confirm if the BAE system is a South African company? Bhuhahahaha!

In 2003 and 2005 BAE Systems received contracts to upgrade a total of 26 South African Olifant Mk.1B main battle tanks to the Olifant Mk.2 standard. The Mk.2 uses a number of components, previously developed for the TTD. First vehicles were scheduled for delivery in 2006 - 2007.

http://www.military-today.com/tanks/olifant_mk2.htm

BAE Land systems is a South African company( it was called Land Systems OMC before becoming a subsidiary of BAE) it was bought by Denel and is now called Denel land systems.

The OMC stands for Olifant manufacturing company........as in the company that built the Olifant MBT!!

Try harder mate!

forgiveness:


I have gotten a better source. Look up.

Wikipedia isn't a source

jln115:

BAE Land systems is a South African company( it was called Land Systems OMC before becoming a subsidiary of BAE) it was bought by Denel and is now called Denel land systems.

The OMC stands for Olifant manufacturing company........as in the company that built the Olifant MBT!!

Try harder mate!

BAE systems is America. Stop fooling around.

forgiveness:


BAE systems is America. Stop fooling around.

Its not American its British......see you have no idea what you are talking about mate

Also from BAE systems website: "LSSA is a South African company jointly owned by BAE Systems"........Its now called Denel Land systems after BAE sold its shares to Denel

read it and weep

I like this combination.... @Forgiveness and @Jln115. Perfect.

The two of u can argue till hell freezes. It feels good when u argue with eachother. The floor is open for ya.

theenchanter:
I like this combination.... @Forgiveness and @Jln115. Perfect.

The two of u can argue till hell freezes. It feels good when u argue with eachother. The floor is open for ya.

Im officially under lockdown........I have three weeks to argue

jln115:

Its not American its British......see you have no idea what you are talking about mate

Also from BAE systems website: "LSSA is a South African company jointly owned by BAE Systems"........Its now called Denel Land systems after BAE sold its shares to Denel

read it and weep

Oga! BAE systems is not owned by South Africa. It is a Yankee thing. Next time don't come here lying.

At least, I showed the location of the H/Qs.

See the Board of directors and the CEO. Which is South African? Which is British? Oh! I thought you said it is a South African company!? Now, it is British. Oops!

theenchanter:
I like this combination.... @Forgiveness and @Jln115. Perfect.

The two of u can argue till hell freezes. It feels good when u argue with eachother. The floor is open for ya.

Hahahaha!

forgiveness:


Oga! BAE systems is not owned by South Africa. It is a Yankee thing. Next time don't come here lying.

At least, I showed the location of the H/Qs.

See the Board of directors and the CEO. Which is South African? Which is British? Oh! I thought you said it is a South African company!? Now, it is British. Oops!

Yeah.....oops is right!!

BAE stands for British Aerospace Systems..........it British

jln115:
Im officially under lockdown........I have three weeks to argue

perfect! He's also officially under lockdown.

I can bet my blokos that the two of u will spend d next 2-3 pages on argument.

theenchanter:
perfect! He's also officially under lockdown.

I can bet my blockos that the two of u will spend d next 2-3 pages on argument.

Why don't you join in.........You know you want to

jln115:

Yeah.....oops is right!!

BAE stands for British Aerospace Systems..........it British

Good. We have finally agreed on one thing. It is not South Africa. EOD

jln115:
Why don't you join in.........You know you want to

me? Never!..... arguing with one of u is suicidal, arguing with d two of u is like dangling my head under a working guillotine.