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Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by dele1727: 9:10pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
4xplore: Most of the world economy is based on Credit...infact the paper you call money is actually credit note with CBN promising to settle it with another transaction... The vulcanizer collect the credit note for service rendered and the gives the rice seller for goods sold and now the credit note is with the rice seller. During recessions... The CBN/Government help by 1 Reduce the lending rate 2, Print more bills.. Thereby flooding the market with more credit 3, reducing Taxes... Please let us ask questions before we talk 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by Nobody: 9:10pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Wasky101: It is just blind and raw hate for Tinubu and nothing else. Many cannot even rise above hatred to try and inspect what Tinubu is saying. The only reaction they have is to automatically thrash Asiwaju. I pity Nigerians and understand why a lot of leaders have zero regard for ordinary Nigerians. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by Joshuaamodu: 9:11pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Printing more naira notes does not make any sense at this point in time. With all due respect sir! 1 Like |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by osazsky(m): 9:12pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Print money more to buy nothing...demand and supply runs d world I see a total world economy shut down in 4 months time...we are finished even those that don't die from d virus will die of hunger.we will soon start eating naira notes God have mercy father pls give us a second chance for d freewill u have given we made a mocrey of it this is no way to be living God are u still there? 2 Likes |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by APCNig: 9:12pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
NwaNimo1: But America can print more dollars without it resulting to inflation. Use your head, white men are deceiving us with senseless Economics Theories. 1 Like |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by rusher14: 9:15pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
loswhite: The word was not invented this year but It was further truggered as soon as the effect of Coronavirus began to take its toll on the economy. Funny enough, the rest of the world would be printing money too. How much quantitative easing have we done in the UK? Following the programme of QE announced in March 2020, our purchases of government bonds will total £645 billion. Rounds of QE have been announced in response to the economic conditions at the time. This graphic shows how bond purchases have built up over the years: So do we keep our currency at same level whilst the rest of the world "prospers"? Many of you like to argue just for the sake of it. |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by MT: 9:15pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
neoclassical: While I am neutral in this case, do you realise that academic knowledge alone might not suffice on the field, where the real variables are interracting. Then again, if you are a lecturer in the US and a student gives you this kind of advice, will you accept it or you will raise the same red flag?. Can you justify your position considering the 2 scenarios please?. Please note that I was not attacking your submission, I just wanted to learn genuinely. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by CoronaVirusPros: 9:16pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
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Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by Wasky101: 9:17pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
neoclassical:Did you read his full text I guess no, well I will advise you do 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by Nobody: 9:18pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by 4Play(m): 9:18pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Oshigun: No economist of repute is suggesting Nigeria should print money. We are in a wholly different economic environment from OECD countries who can do quantitative easing. Don't fool yourself into thinking nobody has ever tried money printing in Africa. It's a tried and failed measure. We are not at the point where we can pull it off. In terms of what we can do to offset the downturn in the economy, we need to start thinking of economic liberalisation (deregulation and privatization) to attract forex and maintain as much as possible economic confidence. Nothing we can do in the short run unless we do what I suggested about covid-19: which is bravely let it play out without locking down the economy. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by plaetton: 9:18pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
NwaNimo1:Totally mad. |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by 4xplore: 9:18pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
dele1727: You are yet to answer my question. Flooding the market with credits is not the problem. Where there is oversupply of credits chasing limited resources it leads to and increase in price, that the root of the problem or you want to deny that importation, production n services is low at this point in time? 2 Likes |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by Nobody: 9:20pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
NwaNimo1: That is book theory, Nigeria economy has deny all academic theories. |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by Tumbulum: 9:20pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
MT:it's called productivity. Money is a reward for being productive. The world leading companies are owned by us citizens eg google, Facebook,Tesla, general motors,ford etc. This is why they can print money and get away with it. They are not dependent on other countries to buy the things they need to run their country. But for Nigeria, what do you have ? Crude export and crude export and few manufacturing hub still dependent on foreign technology to keep running. You cannot print currency unless you want to end up like Zimbabwe. The smoking gun is that money is a just a way to measure the value you have created. If you create zero value and you print plenty it's becomes useless. 2 Likes |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by rusher14: 9:21pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
4Play: Stop arguing blindly. Why I cannot use a term you did not invent is rather befuddling. America itself worries about hyperinflation following quantitative easing yet they are undertaking it. Of all the contributors before me, I've had the most comments an indication that they all contributed nothing of logical or economic argument. More than anything, my post questions why we cannot attempt it. In any case, I can bet my last dollar, Nigeria would print more currency and if you were on the CBN board, you would vote in its support. |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by Nobody: 9:23pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
BAT, haba! You want to turn us to Zimbabwe? Printing money has never worked . I do not want I million naira notes abeg 2 Likes |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by Lotechi(m): 9:23pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
aragonchuks:this is not a foolish idea. The U.S has signed a 2trillion$ stimulus package. In a normal time it would be considered stupid, but this is war |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by budusky05(m): 9:23pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
He's stupid, print what exactly? For what purpose? The one we have we can not use in the closed market. 2 Likes |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by neoclassical: 9:24pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
MT:Sure, these are two different scenarios. In the case of US, there was economic depression, however, investment and productivity in the real sector was not severed. The economy was running, but there was negative growth for many consecutive times i.e economic depression. Scenario 2 , Most companies in Nigeria are closed down, government offices are closed, most retail businesses are equally closed, meaning, productivity is below equilibrium, supply is low, demand is high in relation to supply, leading to vicious circle of poverty, since household members are home together at the moment. So printing more money to chase a few available goods will render the goods worthless and increase the vicious circle of poverty , especially in the long run. 2 Likes |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by MT: 9:25pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Tumbulum: But the US depend heavily on China which was what led to the trade war. There was clearly trade imbalance which ran into billion of dollars with the US clearly disadvantaged. I don't think no nation can be self sufficient. My question is has the whole world accepted US to print more currencies to settle their international trade simply because they own the dollars?. If you can point me to a resource to read on this, I will not mind. Thanks |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by Ojiofor: 9:27pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Thief Tinubu want to use use 40ft container to load our money this time around. Bullion van dey too small for him. 1 Like |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by Excuzeme: 9:28pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Tinubu is completely wrong on this but l can understand nis frustration about America being able to Print More Doallar Notes at will. Trump announced a $6Trillion bail out money for Covids-19. Now, you would wonder, WHERE IS THAT MONEY COMING FROM? America is already indebt close to 200% of its GDP yet it still keeps spending money with reckless abandon! America has been fighting endless, EXPENSIVE WARS all over the world yet it has never gone bamkcrupt, like other countries. The reason is that the whole world trades in dollars! Other Countries of the world sweat and produce wealth, then exchange it for Dollars which America can print and does print, anyhow. In essence, we finance America's expenses and America lives off our wealth. That is why America will kill any leader, any President, sabotage any country or any system that tries to shift the payment for International Trade, away from the Dollars. China has been trying that in the last few months and America, though it cant attack China in open war, inflicting them with Corona Virus is just one of the "tools" in its war to destroy China. So, Tinubu is just angry and being emotional by wondering: If America can print more Notes and everything was fine, we should also do the same! But it does not work that way Jagaban, because there are no countries to pay for the Naira that we print. 2 Likes |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by MT: 9:30pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
neoclassical: I tell you I accept your position that when more money chase a product or service, there is inflation. However, US itself is not self sufficient. Production is at an all time low in the US too, reason why Trump wants to open up the economy DESPERATELY. With 2 trillion dollars to cushion the effects of this virus in the US and over 3.5 million people (and still growing) filling for unemployment benefit within a week in the US, we can not say things are okay for the US as the US economy is heading to hit the iceberg. So, considering this scenario, can you as an academia still justifies the position of the US to print more currency and has the world agreed that the US should print more dollars whenever they have issues to bail themselves out and settle all international trades with such an "artifically-produced" dollars? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by fyneguy: 9:31pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Herdsmen: lol Illiterates are so many on Nairaland 2 Likes |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by 12inchess: 9:31pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
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Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by Iamvalentine: 9:31pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by 4Play(m): 9:32pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
rusher14: If you are not conversant with a subject matter, it is entirely sensible not to opine on it instead of highlighting that you are an obstinate ignoramus. You don't know about quantitative easing other than hearing about its implementation in developed economies. There are Americans who worry that QE can cause inflation or hyperinflation but mainstream opinion amongst economists is that it is safe to implement it given deflationary pressures building up in the economy. Nigeria is not in the same position as the US, the UK or Japan. These countries' 10-year government debt attract interest rates less than 1% per annum. In Japan, Germany and Switzerland for instance, interest rates are negative for 10-year government debt. This means creditors lend money to the government for 10 years and pay the government interest on it! Do you know anyone who would lend Nigeria money on anything close to those terms? 2 Likes |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by Nobody: 9:32pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
4xplore: Au contraire. In fact printing money would be more required by Nigeria to forestall a total breakdown of economic order if things get really bad. Many Nigerians are unemployed and have no savings and the Government is unable to provide palliatives such as direct cash benefit payments or three months mortgage break the UK has brought in for homeowners and indemnity scheme so no landlord can throw out any tenant who defaults on rent payment currently. Plus other schemes such as emergency cash allowance for self-employed Britons!!!! We don't have any of that!! What we have are State government already whinging they cannot pay salaries because of Covid-19!!!! We are really badly exposed and things could breakdown very quickly. I don't know where you are but I am the one in Lagos reading traders of non-essential goods (i.e food and pharmaceutical supplies) lamenting that their families are already hungry from market closure that began only yesterday because they have no savings to fall back on !!!! This is day one for crying out loud so I have to ask if some of you are really aware of the reality of Nigeria and how dangerous the socio-economic meltdown Covid-19 can cause may be especially devastating for Nigeria. Forget inflation. It is not a factor in a survivalist setting where money may become entirely worthless if Central banks allow citizens to lose confidence in it as legal tender. The simple and entirely sensible reason behind Tinubu's assertion is that if people are still able to spend money artificially, in the midst of a humanitarian crisis that could go on for months, this can keep us in control over things like agricultural and manufacturing output that will keep us going as a nation. What farmer will continue to produce food for Nigerians to eat without payment for his crops or livestock? Which manufacturers will remain open if they cannot receive monetary gains for whatever they produce? 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by AreaFada2: 9:32pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Housing:Compare $380 billion to the size of USA economy. That is important. Their economy is very resilient. Still relatively low unemployment for the size of population. |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by tete7000(m): 9:32pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Hear the one campaigning to be President,. This one havoc will be worse than Buhari. They will just be printing naira anyhow. Illiterates 1 Like |
Re: Print More Naira Notes - Tinubu Tells FG by Housing(m): 9:35pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
4xplore: The country was at a point of stagflation when Dangote urged the government to make loan, most especially consumers loan and the CBN did responded with the increase in LDR of banks you will realise this led to banks marketing loans to almost all their customers. It doesn't lead to inflation rather it serves as stimulus to the economy. Today marketers are complaining of low patronage because of low liquidity flow. Nigeria produced most the consumable goods consumed within the West Africa subregion. But at home there is liquidity problem hence the stagflation at home front. Please evaluate the effects of the LDR on our economy. Then you will appreciate needs to stimulate the economy. Most sellers (manufacturers, wholesalers) across all sectors are complaining of low patronage. 1 Like 1 Share |
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