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Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Nobody: 10:35pm On Apr 11, 2020
Easter is all about the joyful and glorious redemption of man from the shackles of sin.

Currently, churches, parks and parties cant hold due to the covid-19 but it must be celebrated one way or another. As for i and my family, we are eating jollof rice
There's a little easter quiz i prepared for you guys:

When Christ Jesus Ascended, In What Form Was He Taken Up With. Was he purely in his spiritual Form Or was he taken up both flesh and bones?

A N S W E R:
Christ's Ascension into Heaven was a purely Spiritual event that involvetd the re-entry of both his physicalcomponents and the spirit & soul into the Kingdom of God
. So Christ was taken up wholly. That is; with flesh & bones, spirit and soul.
Luke 24 v 36 - 43; As they were saying this, Jesus himself stood among them. But they were startled and frightened, and supposed that they saw a spirit. And he said to them, "why are you troubled, and why do questionings rise in your hearts? See my hands and my feet, that its i myself; handle me, and see; for a spirit has no flesh and bones as you see that i have" .And while they still disbelieved for joy, and wondered, he said to them, " Have you anything here to eat?" .They gave him a piece of broiled fish, and he took it and ate before them.

The ascension(Luke 24 v 50 - 51) Then he led them out as far as Bethany, and lifting up his hands he blessed them. While he blessed them, he parted with them and was carried up into heaven. [Notice that no changes were stated before he was carried up]

At first, it sounds strange as to how the human body with bones and flesh can ascend unto Heaven but it goes to show how powerful the lord is.
In summary, the ascension of Christ Jesus was a spiritual acceptance of his flesh & bone and spirit & soul by God almighty because of his ultimate sacrifice for mankind. He is currently seated at the right hand side of God
Praise The Lord!!!


Hosanna . Hosanna. In the highest

Happy Easter!!

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Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by donwhit(m): 10:43pm On Apr 11, 2020
The atoms of his body was accelerated, it began to vibrate at a rate faster than physical matter until it became spiritual matter and they could not see him again even though he could see them. Remember that our physical body it self is light vibrating at a slow rate. The more u sin, the more you are tied down with negative energy which slows down the atoms of your body.

Once your body is saturated with Gods light, and you are ready to ascend it will begin to spin so fast and you will be too strong for the earth gravitational force

The ascension is the goal for every human being just like Enoch, elijah did and mary did after him.

When we attain the perfection of love, overcome all lower desires, ego, impure thought, feelings, and become totally surrendered to Gods will, we will all ascend like jesus.
"everything i do you shall do and more".
PEACE

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Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Felimax(m): 10:45pm On Apr 11, 2020
I never read anywhere he shed His flesh. If He has resurrected with body then He must have ascended with it as well. Will not be the first to get to heaven with body and soul.

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Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by mannatech: 10:46pm On Apr 11, 2020
How would we know if we were not there.

But going by what's written in the Bible, he did.
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by ArisingStorm: 10:46pm On Apr 11, 2020
"Easter is all about the joyful and glorious redemption of man from the shackles of sin". This is a lie.

Show me a place in the bible where you find the word "Easter".

PAGANISM disguised as truth.

Easter = Ishtar

Shalom.
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by zionmde: 10:59pm On Apr 11, 2020
ArisingStorm:
Easter is all about the joyful and glorious redemption of man from the shackles of sin.

This is a lie. Show me a place in the bible where you find the word "Easter".

PAGANISM disguised as truth.

Easter = Ishter

Shalom.
see dis one
oya show me in d Bible where they celebrate independence
where they logged into nairaland
where they were using phone etc
Show me where anyone in d Bible answered ur surname

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Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by ogtavia(m): 11:20pm On Apr 11, 2020
Jesus Christ is a spirit that became flesh and dwelled amongst men. At the point of resurrection, He shed every thing that was human about Him and was only appearing to his disciples and people he chose to, the Bible never recorded that He went back to living with them.

At the point of ascension, He wasnt flesh and blood anymore, He had regained His Godly features but He still wanted to show His nature to His disciples so as to strengthen their faith.

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Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Vulcanheph(m): 11:23pm On Apr 11, 2020
First of all i'm not an atheist, i strongly Believe in God, but as a realist i can proudly tell you that there are numerous things about the Bible that simply doesn't make , but most christians just overlook them and jesus physically Ascending into heaven which is a spiritual place is one of them....

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Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Nobody: 11:27pm On Apr 11, 2020
Receiving your answers....

Answer to the quiz will be revealed by 12:00 am

Lalasticlala
Mynd 44
Oam4j
Answer has been revealed. Pls push to the front page to educate the men and women in Christ.
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by CAPSLOCKED: 12:19am On Apr 12, 2020
Blakewilli:

When Christ Jesus Ascended, In What Form Was He Taken Up With. Was he purely in his spiritual Form Or was he taken up both flesh and bones?

HE WAS TAKEN UP IN FORM OF A MYTH GUYS, IT ACTUALLY NEVER HAPPENED
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Professorcplus(m): 1:24am On Apr 12, 2020
QUESTION ABOUT THE RESSURECTION STORY

When Jesus arose from the dead, what was his nature: a GHOST or a PHYSICAL BODY?

Using biblical accounts, he zoomed through the wall — that could never been a fleshly body.


He suddenly appeared to a certain duo of disciples — again, that must have been a ghost.

But Thomas touched his hands — that could never be a ghost: he was a physical body.


He had a meal with the disciples — that must have been a fleshly body as spirits don't eat physical meals. grin

And when he ascended into the skies, what happened to his garment? Pulverized? Or removed, folded and kept neatly in a ward robe
in the heavens to be worn again when he's returning in the second coming grin grin

It's clear that most Christians don't think about these questions .
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by harrwix(m): 2:05am On Apr 12, 2020
The body of the Saviour Jesus Christ was glorified
Hence he could go through walls like a spirit and yet still break bread with the disciples

So Yes.... Jesus arose from the grave fully and also ascended whole
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by CAPSLOCKED: 7:26am On Apr 12, 2020
mannatech:
How would we know if we were not there.

But going by what's written in the Bible, he did.

GOING BY WHAT'S WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE

-- ANIMALS TALKED.
-- ALL HUMANS TO EVER LIVE DESCENDED FROM EVE.
-- ONE MAN SEPARATED THE RED SEA SO HE COULD CROSS OVER WITH HIS FRIENDS.
-- ANOTHER MAN SPOKE TO A CROWD OF OVER 5000 PEOPLE (NOT COUNTING WOMEN AND CHILDREN) AT ONCE, WITHOUT A SOUND AMPLIFIER, AND EVEN FED THEM WITH ONLY 5 LOAVES OF BREAD.
-- SAMSON ALONE KILLED HUNDREDS OF ABLE MEN WITH A SMALL BONE.
-- THE SUN STOOD STILL FOR MANY HOURS.
-- WE HAVE SPOTTED AND MULTI-COLOURED ANIMALS TODAY BECAUSE OF JACOB. WHEN WE USED TO HAVE ZEBRAS AND TIGERS AND LEOPARDS ALL LOOKING LIKE A WHITE BROILER FOWL, JAKE HAD THEM HAVE SEX LOOKING AT HIS DRAWINGS. THAT WAS HOW THEIR COLORS CHANGED INTO WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.

IS THE BIBLE NOT TRULY MARVELOUS?? cheesy

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Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by ArisingStorm: 7:32am On Apr 12, 2020
Blakewilli:
Receiving your answers....

Answer to the quiz will be revealed by 12:00 am

Lalasticlala
Mynd 44
Oam4j
Answer has been revealed. Pls push to the front page to educate the men and women in Christ.
I pray, and I hope they don't push to front page . Easter is falsehood and have nothing to do with The Messiah.

I already asked you brother, where are we instructed to celebrate Easter, we are instructed to celebrate passover.

Answer my question, stop pushing people to the doctrines of men rather than the statutes(commandments) of The Most High.

When The Messiah was on earth, they asked Him questions, He answered, They asked the disciples questions, They answered, I ask you now brother, Where are we instructed to celebrate PAGANISM called Easter?

Proverbs 28:1
The wicked flee when no one pursues, ""But the righteous are bold as a lion.""

Be bold and answer me brother. Even if the world is deceived, it never changes the TRUTH OF YAH!.

Shalom.
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by spartan117(m): 8:52am On Apr 12, 2020
He died and rose again. Hallelujah!

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Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Nobody: 9:46am On Apr 12, 2020
ArisingStorm:

I pray, and I hope they don't push to front page . Easter is falsehood and have nothing to do with The Messiah.

I already asked you brother, where are we instructed to celebrate Easter, we are instructed to celebrate passover.

Answer my question, stop pushing people to the doctrines of men rather than the statutes(commandments) of The Most High.

When The Messiah was on earth, they asked Him questions, He answered, They asked the disciples questions, They answered, I ask you now brother, Where are we instructed to celebrate PAGANISM called Easter?

Proverbs 28:1
The wicked flee when no one pursues, ""But the righteous are bold as a lion.""

Be bold and answer me brother. Even if the world is deceived, it never changes the TRUTH OF YAH!.

Shalom.
Lalasticlala people need clarification. Pls move to fp
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by madegreatbygrace(m): 11:45am On Apr 12, 2020
[quote author=Blakewilli post=88343275]Easter is all about the joyful and glorious redemption of man from the shackles of sin.

Currently, churches, parks and parties cant hold due to the covid-19 but it must be celebrated one way or another.
There's a little easter quiz i prepared for you guys:

When Christ Jesus Ascended, In What Form Was He Taken Up With. Was he purely in his spiritual Form Or was he taken up both flesh and bones?

A N S W E R:
Ascension into Heaven is a purely Spiritual event that involves the re-entry of both the physical components and the spirit & soul into the Kingdom of God
. So Christ was taken up wholly. That is; with flesh & bones, spirit and soul.
Luke 24 v 36 - 43; As they were saying this, Jesus himself stood among them. But they were startled and frightened, and supposed that they saw a spirit. And he said to them, "why are you troubled, and why do questionings rise in your hearts? See my hands and my feet, that its i myself; handle me, and see; for a spirit has no flesh and bones as you see that i have" .And while they still disbelieved for joy, and wondered, he said to them, " Have you anything here to eat?" .They gave him a piece of broiled fish, and he took it and ate before them.

The ascension(Luke 24 v 50 - 51) Then he led them out as far as Bethany, and lifting up his hands he blessed them. While he blessed them, he parted with them and was carried up into heaven. [Notice that no changes were stated before he was carried up]

At first, it sounds strange as to how the human body with bones and flesh can ascend unto Heaven but studying Elijah's Journey into Heaven can clarify a bit of this mystery.
2nd Kings 2 v 9 - 12 says: When they had crossed, Elijah said to Elisha, "Ask what i shall do for you before i am taken from you." And Elisha said, "I pray you, let me inherit a double share of your spirit." And he said, "you've asked a hard thing; yet, if you see me as i am being taken from you, it shall be so for you; but if you do not see me, it shall not be so" And as they still went on and talked, behold, a chariot of fire and horses of fire seperated the two of them. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. And Elisha saw it and he cried, "My father, my father! the chariots of Isreal and its horsemen!". And he saw him no more.
The interpretation of this passage as it relates to the topic is that the ascension was a very sudden event which is more spiritual than physical as we could see that the chariots of fire were in the spirit realm.
Elijah set this condition; {"if you see me as i am being taken from you, it shall be so for you; but if you do not see me, it shall not be so"} for Elisha to test how advanced he was spiritually and to know if he deserved double share of his spirit. Its only a spiritually active person that can witness the full version of Ascension. To a spiritually blind individual, it will simply seem like Elijah suddenly vanished into thin air. But it was evident that Elisha was spiritually advanced as he fully witnessed the fiery chariots of heaven come down in the spirit realm to ascend Elijah.
This is also how the rapture might be. To people who are left behind, it might seem like people suddenly vanished but more would have taken place in the spirit realm.

In summary, the ascension of Christ Jesus was a spiritual acceptance of his flesh & bone and spirit & soul by God almighty because of his sacrifice for mankind. He is currently seated at the right hand side of God
Praise The Lord!!!


Hosanna . Hosanna. In the highest







If Elijah actually ascended to heaven as you stated, then you’ll be contradicting the word of the Lord in John 3:13


“And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.”
‭‭~John‬ ‭3:13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

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Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Nobody: 11:55am On Apr 12, 2020
[quote author=madegreatbygrace post=88358222][/quote] You're Correct. My mistake
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Nobody: 12:08pm On Apr 12, 2020
Lalasticlala pls push to the front page. Lets peruse through this fun fact.
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Tobechuckwu(m): 12:10pm On Apr 12, 2020
ogtavia:
Jesus Christ is a spirit that being flesh and dwelled amongst men. At the point of resurrection, He shed every thing that was human about Him and was only appearing to his disciples and people he chose to, the Bible never recorded that He went back to living with them.

At the point of ascension, He wasnt flesh and blood anymore, He had regained His Godly features but He still wanted to show His nature to His disciples so as to strengthen their faith.

"As they were saying this, Jesus himself stood among them. But they were startled and frightened, and supposed that they saw a spirit. And he said to them, "why are you troubled, and why do questionings rise in your hearts? See my hands and my feet, that its i myself; handle me, and see; for a spirit has no flesh and bones as you see that i have" .And while they still disbelieved for joy, and wondered, he said to them, " Have you anything here to eat?" .They gave him a piece of broiled fish, and he took it and ate before them."
This is how Jesus Christ ascended to heaven. When u get to heaven u will still recognize him. He doesn't want to show himself like, but that is who Jesus Christ is now.

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Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Nobody: 12:24pm On Apr 12, 2020
I won't say Jesus ascended into heaven in flesh and bones. He was transformed as he was being taken up according to the book of 1st Corinthians 15:50.
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality,

So I would say he was changed in a flash from corruptible (flesh and blood ) to incorruptible at ascension just like we shall all be transformed when caught up in the air to meet Christ at rapture.

Elijah too was transformed within twinkle of an eye as he was caught up in the heavenly chariots.
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Danhumprey: 2:49pm On Apr 12, 2020
CAPSLOCKED:


GOING BY WHAT'S WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE

-- ANIMALS TALKED.
-- ALL HUMANS TO EVER LIVE DESCENDED FROM EVE.
-- ONE MAN SEPARATED THE RED SEA SO HE COULD CROSS OVER WITH HIS FRIENDS.
-- ANOTHER MAN SPOKE TO A CROWD OF OVER 5000 PEOPLE (NOT COUNTING WOMEN AND CHILDREN) AT ONCE, WITHOUT A SOUND AMPLIFIER, AND EVEN FED THEM WITH ONLY 5 LOAVES OF BREAD.
-- SAMSON ALONE KILLED HUNDREDS OF ABLE MEN WITH A SMALL BONE.
-- THE SUN STOOD STILL FOR MANY HOURS.
-- WE HAVE SPOTTED AND MULTI-COLOURED ANIMALS TODAY BECAUSE OF JACOB. WHEN WE USED TO HAVE ZEBRAS AND TIGERS AND LEOPARDS ALL LOOKING LIKE A WHITE BROILER FOWL, JAKE HAD THEM HAVE SEX LOOKING AT HIS DRAWINGS. THAT WAS HOW THEIR COLORS CHANGED INTO WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.

IS THE BIBLE NOT TRULY MARVELOUS?? cheesy
How I used to believe these stories those years!

Damn! grin grin grin grin

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Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Dantedasz(m): 3:00pm On Apr 12, 2020
CAPSLOCKED:


GOING BY WHAT'S WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE

-- ANIMALS TALKED.
-- ALL HUMANS TO EVER LIVE DESCENDED FROM EVE.
-- ONE MAN SEPARATED THE RED SEA SO HE COULD CROSS OVER WITH HIS FRIENDS.
-- ANOTHER MAN SPOKE TO A CROWD OF OVER 5000 PEOPLE (NOT COUNTING WOMEN AND CHILDREN) AT ONCE, WITHOUT A SOUND AMPLIFIER, AND EVEN FED THEM WITH ONLY 5 LOAVES OF BREAD.
-- SAMSON ALONE KILLED HUNDREDS OF ABLE MEN WITH A SMALL BONE.
-- THE SUN STOOD STILL FOR MANY HOURS.
-- WE HAVE SPOTTED AND MULTI-COLOURED ANIMALS TODAY BECAUSE OF JACOB. WHEN WE USED TO HAVE ZEBRAS AND TIGERS AND LEOPARDS ALL LOOKING LIKE A WHITE BROILER FOWL, JAKE HAD THEM HAVE SEX LOOKING AT HIS DRAWINGS. THAT WAS HOW THEIR COLORS CHANGED INTO WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.

IS THE BIBLE NOT TRULY MARVELOUS?? cheesy


So so much astounding rubbish!!
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Dantedasz(m): 3:03pm On Apr 12, 2020
Eulalia:
I won't say Jesus ascended into heaven in flesh and bones. He was transformed as he was being taken up according to the book of 1st Corinthians 15:50.
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality,

So I would say he was changed in a flash from corruptible (flesh and blood ) to incorruptible at ascension just like we shall all be transformed when caught up in the air to meet Christ at rapture.

Elijah too was transformed within twinkle of an eye as he was caught up in the heavenly chariots.

Muhammed rode a winged white horse into heaven when he died. I don't see any difference with Jesus ascension into heaven. kiss
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Janosky: 3:56pm On Apr 12, 2020
Eulalia:
I won't say Jesus ascended into heaven in flesh and bones. He was transformed as he was being taken up according to the book of 1st Corinthians 15:50.
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality,

So I would say he was changed in a flash from corruptible (flesh and blood ) to incorruptible at ascension just like we shall all be transformed when caught up in the air to meet Christ at rapture.

Elijah too was transformed within twinkle of an eye as he was caught up in the heavenly chariots.
Jesus Changed , transformed from flesh to spirit. 1 Cor 15:50
1 peter 3:18...
"For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, that He might bring you to God, after being put to death in the fleshly realm but made alive in the spiritual realm."


Elijah did not go to heaven ,John the Baptiser too. Jesus confirmed it in John 3:13. Matt11:11
Matt 5:3,5

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Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Nobody: 4:12pm On Apr 12, 2020
Janosky:

Jesus Changed , transformed from flesh to spirit. 1 Cor 15:50
1 peter 3:18...
"For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, that He might bring you to God, after being put to death in the fleshly realm but made alive in the spiritual realm."


Elijah did not go to heaven ,John the Baptiser too. Jesus confirmed it in John 3:13. Matt11:11
Matt 5:3,5

2 Kings 2
1
When the LORD was about to take Elijah up to heaven in a whirlwind, Elijah and Elisha were on their way from Gilgal.
2

Elijah said to Elisha, "Stay here; the LORD has sent me to Bethel." But Elisha said, "As surely as the LORD lives and as you live, I will not leave you." So they went down to Bethel.


Read at the bolded
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Nobody: 5:43pm On Apr 12, 2020
Professorcplus:
QUESTION ABOUT THE RESSURECTION STORY

When Jesus arose from the dead, what was his nature: a GHOST or a PHYSICAL BODY?

Using biblical accounts, he zoomed through the wall — that could never been a fleshly body.


He suddenly appeared to a certain duo of disciples — again, that must have been a ghost.

But Thomas touched his hands — that could never be a ghost: he was a physical body.


He had a meal with the disciples — that must have been a fleshly body as spirits don't eat physical meals. grin

And when he ascended into the skies, what happened to his garment? Pulverized? Or removed, folded and kept neatly in a ward robe
in the heavens to be worn again when he's returning in the second coming grin grin

It's clear that most Christians don't think about these questions .

What questions? Are you saying that the supposed son of God can not transform himself from one form to another?
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by MuttleyLaff: 7:16pm On Apr 12, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Seems my post didnt quite turn out the way it was intended.

What it was saying is that Jesus teleported and a few others before and after Him got teleported too, however when Jesus went to heaven it was an ascension and not a teleportation

In the previous post, I gave a few examples of teleporting:
1/ Moses died on Mount Horeb and died there, in an unmarked grave to prevent the Israelites of making shrine of the spot/place
2/ Enoch walked with God and one day got teleported to another place on earth
3/ Elijah was teleported with great fanfare using a chariot of fire and horses of fire
4/ Ezekiel, in a vision was teleported
5/ Paul, was teleported to the third heavens, and using his words, Paul said, he was snatched
6/ Philip suddenly got teleported and the Ethiopian eunuch saw him no more. Philip later found himself at Azotus, about 30 miles away.

Asides the earlier Jesus mentions of teleporting (e.g. Jesus teleported Himself, the disciples and the boat that it suddenly appeared at shore, Jesus was teleported when He suddenly appeared in the wilderness for testing)

Jesus before ascending to heaven, teleported through the door/wall and suddenly appeared before the disciples when they were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jewish leaders

"Enoch walked with God, and then he disappeared because God took him away"
- Genesis 5:24 (i.e. Enoch was teleported)

"But as soon as I leave you, the Spirit of the LORD will carry you away to who knows where.
When Ahab comes and cannot find you, he will kill me.
Yet I have been a true servant of the LORD all my life
"
- 1 Kings 18:12 (i.e. Obadiah knowing about Elijah being teleported)

"And the Spirit lifted me up and took me away,
and I went in bitterness, in the heat of my spirit;
but the hand of the LORD was strong upon me
"
- Ezekiel 3:14 (i.e. Ezekiel when teleported)

"At once the Spirit brought him into the desert"
- Mark 1:12 (i.e. Jesus was teleported)

"That Sunday evening the disciples were meeting behind locked doors because they were afraid of the Jewish leaders.
Suddenly, Jesus was standing there among them!
"Peace be with you," he said
"
- John 20:19 (i.e. Jesus teleports into room)

"I know a follower of Christ who was snatched away to the third heaven fourteen years ago.
I don't know whether this happened to him physically or spiritually. Only God knows
"
- 2 Corinthians 12:2 (i.e. Paul when teleported)

"When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord suddenly took Philip away,
and the eunuch did not see him again, but went on his way rejoicing
"
- Acts 8:39 (i.e. Philip was teleported)

Echoing a line from last post, as WhoIBe said, we sometimes mistake teleporting for ascending into heaven,
even after what Jesus confirmed in John 3:13 that no one has ever gone into heaven except Him

"No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven--the Son of Man."
- John 3:13

Bottom line here, is that, not one person, except Jesus, initiated any of these teleportations. God used teleportations to expressly move Enoch, Elijah, Ezekiel, Paul and Philip about

Jesus (i.e. God the Son) used teleportation to move Himself and others (e.g. the disciples and the boat incident)

Teleportation is not a spiritual gift and that is why God doesnt prescribe it as a personal way or means of moving oneself about

Eulalia:
"1 When the LORD was about to take Elijah up to heaven in a whirlwind, Elijah and Elisha were on their way from Gilgal.
2Elijah said to Elisha, "Stay here; the LORD has sent me to Bethel." But Elisha said, "As surely as the LORD lives and as you live, I will not leave you." So they went down to Bethel.
- 2 Kings 2:1-2

Read at the bolded
Eulalia, fyi and with all due respect, the word in the original text, where you have heaven written as an english translation, is actually the transliteration Hebrew word "shamayim" and it means sky or visible heaven. Please dont hesistate to ask questions to shed more light, if unclear about any thing in all this

cc: donwhit, Janosky
PS: Blakewilli, Yahshua Ha Maschiach aka Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, rose from the dead back into His flesh and blood body but which has now becomes transformed into a glorified body. This is part of the reason why He was capable of going through walls, entering a room without knocking on the door before entering or even coming in through the door

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Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by Nobody: 7:23pm On Apr 12, 2020
MuttleyLaff:


Eulalia, fyi and with all due respect, the word in the original text, where you have heaven written as an english translation, is actually the transliteration Hebrew word "shamayim" and it means sky or visible heaven. Please dont hesistate to ask questions to shed more light, if unclear about any thing in all this

cc: donwhit, Janosky
PS: Blakewilli, Yahshua Ha Maschiach aka Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, rose from the dead back into His flesh and blood body but which has now becomes transformed into a glorified body. This is part of the reason why He was capable of going through walls, entering a room with knocking on the door before entering or coming in through the door

I never argued that of Christ with you. I said he was transformed before Ascension..

About Elijah, I'll do my findings. Thank you Sir. smiley
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by MuttleyLaff: 7:34pm On Apr 12, 2020
Eulalia:
I never argued that of Christ with you. I said he was transformed before Ascension..

About Elijah, I'll do my findings. Thank you Sir. smiley
The postscript about Jesus' ascension wasn't addressed at you.

Its you arguing that Elijah was taken to heaven and you trying to push this, is what I am informing you of because you have wrongly interpreted the verse.

I always says you never stop learning. The only time you stop, is when six feet under.

Elijah was carried away, the same way Philip in Acts 8:39-40, was carried away to another location so for the eunuch not to see him anymore again.

Now sister, grab yourself a very good interlinear, as this will help clear things up quickly while you about doing your findings, lol
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by emmaodet: 7:48pm On Apr 12, 2020
[quote author=Vulcanheph post=88344414]First of all i'm not an atheist, i strongly Believe in God, but as a realist i can proudly tell you that there are numerous things about the Bible that simply doesn't make , but most christians just overlook them and jesus physically Ascending into heaven which is a spiritual place is one of them....[/quote

I dey tell u bro.
If they believe Jesus ascended to heaven, moses split the sea into two and walked through,
The earth stopped rotating or moved for 6 hours just for the children of isreal to fight at day time and conquer a war, if Jesus used 2 loafs of bread and 5 fishes to feed 5000 people and food still remain, if Jesus turned water to wine, donkey talked, a rotten corpse of 3 days woke up from the grave(i think jairus abi dairus sef), if mona dropped from heaven and children of Israel ate to satisfaction.
Then, why are my people doubting Oduduwa that came from heaven to earth by a chain ( this is even easier to prove then someone flying from down to up without chains or anything).
Why is it that my people mocks their local religion and deities/oracles?
Is it because of our taste for foreign things from ages?
Because it seems we prefer foreign rice, clothes, vegetable oil, marriage pattern, movies, music, religion, political settings, foreign laws and constitution to ours?
I think that is the problem
Re: Happy Easter Sunday; Did Jesus Really Ascend Unto Heaven In Flesh And Bones??? by MuttleyLaff: 8:42pm On Apr 12, 2020
emmaodet:
I dey tell u bro.
If they believe Jesus ascended to heaven, moses split the sea into two and walked through,
The earth stopped rotating or moved for 6 hours just for the children of isreal to fight at day time and conquer a war, if Jesus used 2 loafs of bread and 5 fishes to feed 5000 people and food still remain, if Jesus turned water to wine, donkey talked, a rotten corpse of 3 days woke up from the grave(i think jairus abi dairus sef), if mona dropped from heaven and children of Israel ate to satisfaction.
Then, why are my people doubting Oduduwa that came from heaven to earth by a chain ( this is even easier to prove then someone flying from down to up without chains or anything).
Why is it that my people mocks their local religion and deities/oracles?
Is it because of our taste for foreign things from ages?
Because it seems we prefer foreign rice, clothes, vegetable oil, marriage pattern, movies, music, religion, political settings, foreign laws and constitution to ours?
I think that is the problem
"23For as I walked around and examined your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription:
TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.
Therefore what you worship as something unknown, I now proclaim to you.
24The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples made by human hands.
25Nor is He served by human hands, as if He needed anything, because He Himself gives all men life and breath and everything else.
26From one ma He made every nation of men, to inhabit the whole earth; and He determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their lands.
27God intended that they would seek Him and perhaps reach out for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us. 28‘For in Him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are His offspring.
29Therefore, being offspring of God, we should not think that the Divine Being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by man’s skill and imagination.
30Although God overlooked the ignorance of earlier times, He now commands all peoplef everywhere to repent.
31For He has set a day when He will judge the world with justice by the Man He has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising Him from the dead.”
"
- Acts 17:23-31

emmaodet, it is because of the method claimed that Oduduwa came from heaven to earth by a chain. That only is enough to suspect and see the non-conformity to facts, accuracy and truth of the whole, lol.

emmaodet, it should interest you to know that, no human being comes into this our world without coming in through the door, lol. You cant just climb down a chain into the world. Who does that. For where. When you arent talking of Jack and the Beanstalk, lol.

Or what chain are we talking of here sef, eh? You mean the umbilical chord chain, hmm, lol? Nah emmaodet I know, you dont mean that one, lol. Listen ojaare, for anyone to legally operate on this earth, you will need a body. You defo need to have a body or worse case scenario, possess one. Now you are spoil for choice between a human body or an animal body, but you do need a body somehow. OK, better still, you get or have a body, by legally coming into to the world and that will be through the door, lol. This permits you to legally operate and lawfully do what you need doing, on earth, lol.

No one is mocking aboriginal faiths, but just as like as how shown with Apostle Paul in above Acts 17:23-31, I am truly and am fascinated by our rich and diverse aboriginal faiths, which is why the reason I regularly jump to enjoy and engage my favs FOLYKAZE, vaxx1 etcetera

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