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Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Maestro21: 1:29am On Apr 12, 2020
Funaki:
[s]China reported cases of pneumonia with unknown causes to WHO China office on December 31 last year. Although it has started earlier without reporting to WHO.

Within 3 days, the Reported cases grew to 44, without the cause still unknown.

A week later, the health authorities discovered the cause of the pneumonia as a new type of coronavirus very similar to the SARS(Severe acute respiratory syndrome).

By 11 January, China recorded First death China came clean that the cases started from a seafood market in Wuhan in December.

By January 12, China shared the genetic sequence with other countries so that they can develop test kits.

From 13 to 20 January, Thailand, South Korea and Japan all recorded their first cases of the virus according to test reports.

Then it started spreading to other parts of the continents. People who travelled back from the Christmas holiday brought it to Europe and North America then Europeans brought it to Africa.

And like that.....[/s]


Now, give me your own report of how people started dying of 5G in Wuhan China.
You are quoting WHO. That is no research my friend. I will give you another try.

BTW, do your own research. I am not going to help you at all.
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 1:51am On Apr 12, 2020
[quote author=Maestro21 post=88346455]
I am in the USA. LOL Lowering what curve? They are just spewing the rubbish from WHO.
if WHO with all its experts are rubbish to you, if you like be in the heaven your head needs to be examined grin




I am conversing with an ignoramus.
I gave you facts! It has not be confirmed. Prove me wrong block head wink



Regular regurgitated rubbish.

Give people hydroxychloroquine and they will be well. Fact.
Medically you are off, hydroxychloroquine the active metabolite in chloroquine is still an experimental drug for the treatment of COVID-19 like 6 other drugs being currently tested. Until a suitable population size is tested for efficacy and safety for COVID-19 in a clinical trial it cannot be universally accepted.
If you choose to take it, you are just making yourself a guinea pig, an experimental lab rat!

And incase you don't know, drugs for viral diseases mostly don't CURE them, their mechanism of action is to MANAGE the symptoms. VACCINES are the potential CURES for viruses. Seriously you know nothing undecided !

Mind you we are still on pastor Chris matter, I'm waiting for you detailed conspiracy research with links grin
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 2:12am On Apr 12, 2020
[/quote][quote author=Maestro21 post=88346485]Do you know you are completely and absolutely ignorant of what is going on even going by the news?

What you wrote up here is a BIG FAT LIE.

What they have been doing is, attribute deaths of people whose body posthumously tested +ve to COVID-19 antibody even if they were asymptomatic at the time of death. Stop arguing, you sound stu.pid when you do.
Google Deborah Birx and read her say EXACTLY what I just said.
She said tested positive to COVID-19 while ALIVE and not AFTER DEATH.... LIAR!!!

I quote: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/08/dr_birx_unlike_some_countries_if_someone_dies_with_covid-19_we_are_counting_that_as_a_covid-19_death.html

"At Tuesday's White House coronavirus press conference, task force member Dr. Deborah Birx said that while some countries are reporting coronavirus fatality numbers differently, in the U.S. you are counted as a victim of the pandemic if you DIE WHILE TESTING POSITIVE FOR THE VIRUS even if something else causes your death".

Clearly opposite of what you said. Double mouthed zombie grin.

Mind you the US isn't the only country with COVID-19 and other countries including Nigeria have their guidelines for recording a death due to COVID-19. The report goes further below.

"There are other countries that if you had a preexisting condition and let's say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem some countries are recording as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death."

NB: PLEASE DROP YOUR RESEARCH ON HOW 5G KILLS HERE, THATS THE MAIN POINT. I HAVE DROPPED MINE AND YOU FEEL YOU CAN DO BETTER, DROP YOURS LETS ANALYSE IT. THATS ALL I NEED FROM YOU NOW, HENCE YOU HAVE NO POINT AND SHOULD JUST HIDE IN SHAME, YOU AND YOUR CON MAN, AKA FAKE GOD OF MAN OF A PASTOR CHRIS *SPITS
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Funaki: 2:19am On Apr 12, 2020
Maestro21:
You are quoting WHO. That is no research my friend. I will give you another try.

BTW, do your own research. I am not going to help you at all.
I'm not quoting WHO. That's the concession of the CDC, NHS, RKI, KCDC and other governmental and non governmental infectious disease prevention agencies. Those are the leading infectious disease agencies except you know something they don't know according to the "independent research" you and your pastor have done. If you have your own report that's independent of these bodies where it was reported that 5G is killing people, bring it forward instead of running around. You seem to know something the CDC and NHS don't know according to your "research", you can clearly share it so that the world will learn from you.

Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Maestro21: 2:59am On Apr 12, 2020
onlyfacts,

You cannot properly quote a post and you want to set someone straight? grin

if WHO with all its experts are rubbish to you, if you like be in the heaven your head needs to be examined
Let give you a synopsis of how unintelligent and incapable of critical thinking you are:

WHO started by saying the virus could not be transmitted from human to human. They would correct themselves after.

Then they said it was airborne. Reversed themselves on it.

Then they said animals could not contact it. They have now reversed themselves again.

See how stu.pid you are. When they correct themselves again, you would have to change the same statements they made that you used to argue. Stu.pid. Stu.pid. Stu.pid.

Medically you are off, hydroxychloroquine the active metabolite in chloroquine is still an experimental drug for the treatment of COVID-19 like 6 other drugs being currently tested. Until a suitable population size is tested for efficacy and safety for COVID-19 in a clinical trial it cannot be universally accepted.
If you choose to take it, you are just making yourself a guinea pig, an experimental lab rat!
You are a special type of stu.pid. You are still rehashing the same nonsense. If you wanted to disprove me all you needed to do was prove it was not effective with a better success rate than the current standoffish approach that is killing people. But in a bid to pretend you know a hoot of what is going on, see the waste of space above. Pathetic.

And incase you don't know, drugs for viral diseases mostly don't CURE them, their mechanism of action is to MANAGE the symptoms. VACCINES are the potential CURES for viruses. Seriously you know nothing undecided !
Hahahahahaha. See where you scored the worst own goal.

Dummy, vaccines are not cures they are called preventive medicine. They are to prevent the individual from getting infected not to cure/treat. You are such a dummy. Your name should be dummy facts.
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Maestro21: 3:12am On Apr 12, 2020
onlyfacts:
She said tested positive to COVID-19 while ALIVE and not AFTER DEATH.... LIAR!!!

I quote: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/08/dr_birx_unlike_some_countries_if_someone_dies_with_covid-19_we_are_counting_that_as_a_covid-19_death.html

"At Tuesday's White House coronavirus press conference, task force member Dr. Deborah Birx said that while some countries are reporting coronavirus fatality numbers differently, in the U.S. you are counted as a victim of the pandemic if you DIE WHILE TESTING POSITIVE FOR THE VIRUS even if something else causes your death".
I feel almost dehumanised to be conversing with you. Look at this dummy.

Look at your post again and question your parents for not throwing you away. You can clearly see what you quoted but still did not understand it. She told you that the dead person is counted as a coronavirus death even if they died of other causes, as long as the corpse tested positive for the antibody, even if the victim was asymptomatic at the time of death.

I attached her below. Pathetic liar and dummy.

[s]Clearly opposite of what you said. Double mouthed zombie grin. [/s]

Mind you the US isn't the only country with COVID-19 and other countries including Nigeria have their guidelines for recording a death due to COVID-19. The report goes further below.

"There are other countries that if you had a preexisting condition and let's say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem some countries are recording as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death."
grin grin grin grin grin What a dummy. The countries who do not follow the guidelines are countries that do not submit themselves to WHO because these guidelines are WHO guidelines. Dummy. Nigeria does the same thing as the US. I wonder who you think you are talking to with your hogwash.

https://www.nairaland.com/5787931/37-year-old-new-mum-dies-coronavirus

Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Maestro21: 3:17am On Apr 12, 2020
Funaki:
I'm not quoting WHO. That's the concession of the CDC, NHS, RKI, KCDC and other governmental and non governmental infectious disease prevention agencies. Those are the leading infectious disease agencies except you know something they don't know according to the "independent research" you and your pastor have done. If you have your own report that's independent of these bodies where it was reported that 5G is killing people, bring it forward instead of running around. You seem to know something the CDC and NHS don't know according to your "research", you can clearly share it so that the world will learn from you.
Let me tell you why I won't waste my time teaching you how to research.

China and Bill Gates are the 2 greatest donors to WHO, CDC, NAID etc etc. So why will any sensible human being quote those parastatals as sources of information when we know that they will only do the biddings of their sponsors?

If I want to understand the effects of smoking, should I also quote BAT? grin
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op):
Maestro21:
I feel almost dehumanised to be conversing with you. Look at this dummy.

Look at your post again and question your parents for not throwing you away. You can clearly see what you quoted but still did not understand it. She told you that the dead person is counted as a coronavirus death even if they died of other causes, as long as the corpse tested positive for the antibody, even if the victim was asymptomatic.

I attached her below. Pathetic liar and dummy.



grin grin grin grin grin What a dummy. The countries who do not follow the guidelines are countries that do not submit themselves to WHO because these guidelines are WHO guidelines. Dummy. Nigeria does the same thing as the US. I wonder who you think you are talking to with your hogwash.

https://www.nairaland.com/5787931/37-year-old-new-mum-dies-coronavirus
There is serious madness in the land o grin grin when I said you are now a zombie you thought I was joking cheesy cheesy

You said this "attribute deaths of people whose body posthumously (meaning after death) tested +ve to COVID-19 antibody even if they were asymptomatic at the time of death."

The good Dr said this
"In the U.S. you are counted as a victim of the pandemic if you DIE "WHILE" TESTING POSITIVE FOR THE VIRUS even if something else causes your death" - meaning the person tested positive while alive and not deadgrin


Also from the headline of that news article "Dr. Birx said: Unlike Some Countries, "If Someone Dies " WITH"COVID-19 We Are Counting That As A COVID-19 Death" - still confirming the person was tested while alive cheesy

Guy you Don cast cheesygrin calm down you will soon get itgrin

BY THE WAY I STILL NEED THAT YOUR HALF BAKED RESEARCH, POST IT NOW!!! THATS ALL I'LL BE RESPONDING TOO.
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op):
[quote author=Maestro21 post=88347508]onlyfacts,

You cannot properly quote a post and you want to set someone straight? grin



Let give you a synopsis of how unintelligent and incapable of critical thinking you are:

WHO started by saying the virus could not be transmitted from human to human. They would correct themselves after.

Then they said it was airborne. Reversed themselves on it.

Then they said animals could not contact it. They have now reversed themselves again.

See how stu.pid you are. When they correct themselves again, you would have to change the same statements they made that you used to argue. Stu.pid. Stu.pid. Stu.pid.
Still amazes me your lows, ever heard of the word NOVEL? grin it's a novel virus as such no known standard treatment guidelines. As more studies were rolled out based on the scientific research, the guidelines where adjusted accordingly to match them. Think before you type!



You are a special type of stu.pid. You are still rehashing the same nonsense. If you wanted to disprove me all you needed to do was prove it was not effective with a better success rate than the current standoffish approach that is killing people. But in a bid to pretend you know a hoot of what is going on, see the waste of space above. Pathetic.
Still sounding dumb cheesy, I'll give you this assignment, since you don't want to receive sense. Go online and do your research on how a drug gets FDA approval for treatment of any condition, then come back here and tell me what you learnt based on what I said earlier. Even common NAFDAC approval, do you know the processes and stress pharmaceutical companies go throughgrin ? Even when it eventually gets into the drug market, do you know the post market surveillance, pharmacovigilance and toxicology studies they still do.... Kaigrin . Have you ever heard of drug recall?grin small boy Get sense! Do your assignment okay!



Hahahahahaha. See where you scored the worst own goal.

Dummy, vaccines are not cures they are called preventive medicine. They are to prevent the individual from getting infected not to cure/treat. You are such a dummy. Your name should be dummy facts.
grin wrong! still more rubbish from you! You don't understand the medical terms yet you comment. How does a vaccine work?? grin Do you know?
let me educate you. Their are two goals of vaccination, 1 active immunity and 2 passive immunity.

Now a vaccine is not a hand sanitizer that PREVENTS the virus from getting in therefore preventing INFECTION as you ignorantly claimed . It doesn't! If you are exposed to the virus, even if you are vaccinated it will get in !
Now here is the goal, for ACTIVE IMMUNITY your bodies immune system produces it's own ANTIBODIES that identify the virus and quickly sends in T-CELLS and other white blood cells to fight against it. At this point the person is INFECTED and can become SICK (manifestation of disease) but most often the symptoms are zero to mild, so the person quickly recovers. Active Immunity last longer cause it's your immune system that produces the antibodies.
PASSIVE IMMUNITY on the other hand involves getting antibodies from outside the body, this helps your body respond as above but it doesn't stay too long in the body cause the antibodies were introduced.
Vaccines are called PREVENTIVE MEDICINES not because it works like hand sanitizers and you won't get infected, you may if you come in contact with sick people, they are called PREVENTIVE MEDICINES because our immune system when exposed to a new pathogen doesn't know how to respond effectively as such it's leads to a greater episode of the disease and even death! But the second time it is exposed to that pathogen the immune system knows how to respond immediately, it has learnt the first time and produces the right antibodies. So the PREVENTIVE WORK OF VACCINES is to help your body avoid or PREVENT that lack of effectiveness against the novel pathogen in the first episode of exposure to a novel pathogen. With the vaccine your body responds effectively, curtailing or PREVENTING FURTHER DAMAGE!
Vaccines are classified under medicine.

And in line with that they are the number one CURE for all pandemics involving VIRUSES (not bacteria or fungi) in the past (small pox, measles, chicken pox, polio,etc) present ( Ebola, SARS, MERS, FLU, COVID-19 etc) and future (still unknown). Epidemiologist and public health practitioners will tell you unless the whole world gets a certain vaccine for a certain virus eg EBOLA, it's re-emergence and possible spread is possible, locally and globally !

Most drugs ( asides vaccines) for viruses don't cure the condition but just manage the disease from getting worse, HIV, MERS, SARS, FLU, EBOLA, etc are examples.

Let me not go further, you haven't digested or understood this one yet.grin

PLEASE DROP 5G DEATH RESEARCH grin THAT'S WHAT THIS POST CREATED BY ME IS ABOUT!!! STOP BEATING AROUND THE BUSH, CAUSE I'LL LEAVE YOU AND RESPOND TO OTHER PEOPLE!!!
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Funaki: 4:17am On Apr 12, 2020
Maestro21:
Let me tell you why I won't waste my time teaching you how to research.

China and Bill Gates are the 2 greatest donors to WHO, CDC, NAID etc etc. So why will any sensible human being quote those parastatals as sources of information when we know that they will only do the biddings of their sponsors?

If I want to understand the effects of smoking, should I also quote BAT? grin
What concerns Bill Gates and 5G killing people in Wuhan China? Are you listening to yourself? Abi you have forgotten why we are having this conversation? grin grin

If China and WHO are covering up the 5G death in China, are other countries covering it up too? Are there no 5g in other countries or it's only the one in China that's killing people.

Is Bill Gates funding NHS and other European countries too? Sebi Japanese people hate both WHO and China and called the corrupt? Why have they not reported how 5G is killing people or China is funding Japan too? grin grin

Stop bringing red herring argument so as to avoid giving us your well documented "independent research" of how 5G (that can barely penetrate leaf and gets easily attenuated by moist air) killed people in China. We are eagerly waiting grin grin grin.

Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Maestro21: 5:20am On Apr 12, 2020
onlyfacts:
[s]There is serious madness in the land o grin grin when I said you are now a zombie you thought I was joking cheesy cheesy

You said this "attribute deaths of people whose body posthumously (meaning after death) tested +ve to COVID-19 antibody even if they were asymptomatic at the time of death."

The good Dr said this
"In the U.S. you are counted as a victim of the pandemic if you DIE "WHILE" TESTING POSITIVE FOR THE VIRUS even if something else causes your death" - meaning the person tested positive while alive and not deadgrin


Also from the headline of that news article "Dr. Birx said: Unlike Some Countries, "If Someone Dies " WITH"COVID-19 We Are Counting That As A COVID-19 Death" - still confirming the person was tested while alive cheesy

Guy you Don cast cheesygrin calm down you will soon get itgrin

BY THE WAY I STILL NEED THAT YOUR HALF BAKED RESEARCH, POST IT NOW!!! THATS ALL I'LL BE RESPONDING TOO[/s].
Even your friend ignored you because he knows this is absolute rubbish.

What does it mean while testing positive for COVID-19?
Hahaha hahaha.

Dummy. Do you think corpses are not tested for COVID-19 or do you want to disgrace your family again?

I will give one chance.
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Maestro21:
onlyfacts,

Still does not know how to quote a post. Dummy. grin

[s]Still amazes me your lows, ever heard of the word NOVEL? grin it's a novel virus as such no known standard treatment guidelines. As more studies were rolled out based on the scientific research, the guidelines where adjusted accordingly to match them. Think before you type![/s]
Dummy. If COVID-19 is similar to MERS and SARS. A good place to start while preliminary research is being done is to assume that it can be transmitted human to human. Logic 101. WHO clunked it. grin and even DJT agrees.

[s]Still sounding dumb cheesy, I'll give you this assignment, since you don't want to receive sense. Go online and do your research on how a drug gets FDA approval for treatment of any condition, then come back here and tell me what you learnt based on what I said earlier. Even common NAFDAC approval, do you know the processes and stress pharmaceutical companies go throughgrin ? Even when it eventually gets into the drug market, do you know the post market surveillance, pharmacovigilance and toxicology studies they still do.... Kaigrin . Have you ever heard of drug recall?grin small boy Get sense! Do your assignment okay![/s]
Dummy is feeling bad. Trying to defend his "vaccines cure" goof. Hahahahahaha

[s]wrong! still more rubbish from you! You don't understand the medical terms yet you comment. How does a vaccine work?? grin Do you know?
let me educate you. Their are two goals of vaccination, 1 active immunity and 2 passive immunity.

Now a vaccine is not a hand sanitizer that PREVENTS the virus from getting in therefore preventing INFECTION as you ignorantly claimed . It doesn't! If you are exposed to the virus, even if you are vaccinated it will get in !
Now here is the goal, for ACTIVE IMMUNITY your bodies immune system produces it's own ANTIBODIES that identify the virus and quickly sends in T-CELLS and other white blood cells to fight against it. At this point the person is INFECTED and can become SICK (manifestation of disease) but most often the symptoms are zero to mild, so the person quickly recovers. Active Immunity last longer cause it's your immune system that produces the antibodies.
PASSIVE IMMUNITY on the other hand involves getting antibodies from outside the body, this helps your body respond as above but it doesn't stay too long in the body cause the antibodies were introduced.
Vaccines are called PREVENTIVE MEDICINES not because it works like hand sanitizers and you won't get infected, you may if you come in contact with sick people, they are called PREVENTIVE MEDICINES because our immune system when exposed to a new pathogen doesn't know how to respond effectively as such it's leads to a greater episode of the disease and even death! But the second time it is exposed to that pathogen the immune system knows how to respond immediately, it has learnt the first time and produces the right antibodies. So the PREVENTIVE WORK OF VACCINES is to help your body avoid or PREVENT that lack of effectiveness against the novel pathogen in the first episode of exposure to a novel pathogen. With the vaccine your body responds effectively, curtailing or PREVENTING FURTHER DAMAGE!
Vaccines are classified under medicine.

And in line with that they are the number one CURE for all pandemics involving VIRUSES (not bacteria or fungi) in the past (small pox, measles, chicken pox, polio,etc) present ( Ebola, SARS, MERS, FLU, COVID-19 etc) and future (still unknown). Epidemiologist and public health practitioners will tell you unless the whole world gets a certain vaccine for a certain virus eg EBOLA, it's re-emergence and possible spread is possible, locally and globally !

Most drugs ( asides vaccines) for viruses don't cure the condition but just manage the disease from getting worse, HIV, MERS, SARS, FLU, EBOLA, etc are examples.

Let me not go further, you haven't digested or understood this one yet[/s]
Long pile of absolute bunkum.

This will forever be funny:

VACCINES are the potential CURES for viruses. Seriously you know nothing undecided
grin grin grin Dummyfacts
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Maestro21: 5:44am On Apr 12, 2020
Funaki:
What concerns Bill Gates and 5G killing people in Wuhan China? Are you listening to yourself? Abi you have forgotten why we are having this conversation? grin grin
I mentioned Bill Gates and China to tell you why quoting those agencies is just DOA. That is a compromised testimony.

If China and WHO are covering up the 5G death in China, are other countries covering it up too? Are there no 5g in other countries or it's only the one in China that's killing people.
First, I alluded to China with the collusion of WHO, using the COVID-19 situation to mask the 5G health issues and deaths.

The effects of 5G in other countries is well-documented if you would do YOUR OWN research. That is an aside from the fact that the radiation frequencies explored by each countries differs. So 5G issue is not one paint brush to cover all and sundry. Just like the COVID-19 situation. You do realise that even your WHO agree that the strains of COVID-19 per country seem different.

Is Bill Gates funding NHS and other European countries too? Sebi Japanese people hate both WHO and China and called the corrupt? Why have they not reported how 5G is killing people or China is funding Japan too? grin grin
I can answer to facts not your conjecture. The information you need is online. Maestro21 will not do your bidding for you.

Stop bringing red herring argument so as to avoid giving us your well documented "independent research" of how 5G (that can barely penetrate leaf and gets easily attenuated by moist air) killed people in China. We are eagerly waiting grin grin grin.
Hahahahahahahaha. What is cracking me up is the wikipedia and vested-interest jargons you keep spewing. Let me toss you a little bone. Huawei (Leading 5G chinese proponent) put out a statement yesterday (or the day before for someone in Nigeria) on twitter concerning their 5G. Go and analyse their statement and see if they too will not laugh at this nonsense you are writing about barely penetrate leaf.

Hehehehe. Good one. grin
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 8:27am On Apr 12, 2020
Maestro21:
Even your friend ignored you because he knows this is absolute rubbish.

What does it mean while testing positive for COVID-19?
Hahaha hahaha.

Dummy. Do you think corpses are not tested for COVID-19 or do you want to disgrace your family again?

I will give one chance.
I'm happy I schooled you wink

NOW 5G RESEARCH ?!
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by spartan117(m): 8:37am On Apr 12, 2020
onlyfacts:
Pastor Chris confirms that the reasons people are dying in this pandemic is because "where those 5G signals are being turned on, are being put on people died". Here he categorically says 5G is responsible for the deaths in this pandemic. Note: he also changes what he says at intervals. He has also said that the NWO brought Covid-19 which are killing the people, the emphasis though is that he later said 5G is killing the people.

He mentions that patients suffering the flu are being mistaken as Covid-19 patients, he believes Covid-19 patients are few and the flu another major cause of death in this pandemic. I wonder if that logic of pastor Chris is global or limited to a specific place alone.

Cc: spartan117


https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-sax5FAjj8/?igshid=3e1j4b5k58j8
Yes he did
And happy easter to you wink
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 8:41am On Apr 12, 2020
spartan117:
Yes he did
And happy easter to you wink
Call your bro maestro to order, with his blinded enthusiasm. Bless you smiley
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by spartan117(m): 8:43am On Apr 12, 2020
onlyfacts:
Call your bro maestro to order, with his blinded enthusiasm. Bless you smiley
The man of God has spoken. Let those who have ears hear.
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 8:51am On Apr 12, 2020
spartan117:
The man of God has spoken. Let those who have ears hear.
As undefined as your statement is, I don't want to fault it. wink
Happy Sunday!
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by spartan117(m): 8:58am On Apr 12, 2020
onlyfacts:
As undefined as your statement is, I don't want to fault it. wink
Happy Sunday!
Happy Sunday to you also smiley

I will leave you with this advice: never ever mock or insult a man of God whether you think he's right or wrong. Learn from the story of David and Saul.

God bless you.
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 9:05am On Apr 12, 2020
spartan117:
Happy Sunday to you also smiley

I will leave you with this advice: never ever mock or insult a man of God whether you think he's right or wrong. Learn from the story of David and Saul.

God bless you.
Saul was an anointed king of Israel and still he was wrong, David tried to reason with him severally, even cutting Saul's garment and telling him he could have killed him but he did not. Eventually he died cause he refused to change! David called out ignorance, didn't he? Why shouldn't I call out ignorance in a pastor (Chris or not) when I see one as long as I don't lie on himhuh
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Funaki: 10:44am On Apr 12, 2020
Maestro21:
[s]I mentioned Bill Gates and China to tell you why quoting those agencies is just DOA. That is a compromised testimony.



First, I alluded to China with the collusion of WHO, using the COVID-19 situation to mask the 5G health issues and deaths.

The effects of 5G in other countries is well-documented if you would do YOUR OWN research. That is an aside from the fact that the radiation frequencies explored by each countries differs. So 5G issue is not one paint brush to cover all and sundry. Just like the COVID-19 situation. You do realise that even your WHO agree that the strains of COVID-19 per country seem different.



I can answer to facts not your conjecture. The information you need is online. Maestro21 will not do your bidding for you.



Hahahahahahahaha. What is cracking me up is the wikipedia and vested-interest jargons you keep spewing. Let me toss you a little bone. Huawei (Leading 5G chinese proponent) put out a statement yesterday (or the day before for someone in Nigeria) on twitter concerning their 5G. Go and analyse their statement and see if they too will not laugh at this nonsense you are writing about barely penetrate leaf.

Hehehehe. Good one. grin[/s]
The only documented effect of 5G is how people ignorantly destroyed cell towers (even the ones that ain't 5g) because of what they watched or read on Facebook and YouTube.

Most countries that have launched 5G use the 3.5-3.6Ghz frequency spectrum , with few venturing to the 27-28 GHz bands (e.g Japan, South Korea, Russia and US). No China 5G spectrum passed the 4.7Ghz mark. China mobile is using 2.5ghz band for their 5g which is already a 4g band in the US.

At these frequencies, the wavelengths are very short and the signal will be easily attenuated by ordinary air. To say 5G signals kill is just preposterous. Why do you think they're using massive MIMO and scattered small cells if the signal penetrating force is that powerful?

NHS, NIID Japan, KCDC, RKI are independent healthcare agencies except your pastor told you otherwise that they are funded by China or Bill Gates.

What concerns Huawei Statement on twitter with people dying of 5g radiation?

Give us your independent research, you've been dodging since grin grin grin. Let's present your research of how 5G killed people in Wuhan China to US and their allies. So that US can shut China up forever. US is actually looking for every opportunity to paint China bad, this will be a great opportunity. With that, Mike Pompeo will not be forcing the G7 to call the pandemic the Wuhan virus anymore. He will change it to Wuhan 5G pandemic grin grin
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op):
Give us your independent research, you've been dodging since grin grin grin. [b]Let's present your research of how 5G killed people in Wuhan China to US and their allies. So that US can shut China up forever. US is actually looking for every opportunity to paint China bad, this will be a great opportunity. With that, Mike Pompeo will not be forcing the G7 to call the pandemic the Wuhan virus anymore. [/b]He will change it to Wuhan 5G pandemic grin grin
Just brilliant!!! Very brilliant research!!! The current crop of the US executives headed by Trump is very critical of China. CIA surely would have had this facts and used it against China by now!!! But if you are wiser and did more research than CIA, publish it. We will help you move it to front page, in this social media age once it gets to twitter it is finished. A US diplomat or administrator or reputable news outlet will feature it!

Cc maestro21
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Maestro21: 10:10pm On Apr 12, 2020
Funaki:
[s]The only documented effect of 5G is how people ignorantly destroyed cell towers (even the ones that ain't 5g) because of what they watched or read on Facebook and YouTube.

Most countries that have launched 5G use the 3.5-3.6Ghz frequency spectrum , with few venturing to the 27-28 GHz bands (e.g Japan, South Korea, Russia and US). No China 5G spectrum passed the 4.7Ghz mark. China mobile is using 2.5ghz band for their 5g which is already a 4g band in the US.

At these frequencies, the wavelengths are very short and the signal will be easily attenuated by ordinary air. To say 5G signals kill is just preposterous. Why do you think they're using massive MIMO and scattered small cells if the signal penetrating force is that powerful?

NHS, NIID Japan, KCDC, RKI are independent healthcare agencies except your pastor told you otherwise that they are funded by China or Bill Gates.

What concerns Huawei Statement on twitter with people dying of 5g radiation?

Give us your independent research, you've been dodging since grin grin grin. Let's present your research of how 5G killed people in Wuhan China to US and their allies. So that US can shut China up forever. US is actually looking for every opportunity to paint China bad, this will be a great opportunity. With that, Mike Pompeo will not be forcing the G7 to call the pandemic the Wuhan virus anymore. He will change it to Wuhan 5G pandemic grin grin[/s]
I won't spoon-feed you no matter how hard you try.

Keep rehashing hogwash that is easily disprovable and absolutely ridiculous when it is not plain st.upid.

I tossed you a bone concerning Huawei. If you had just started from there, you'd have seen the company testifying that what you have up here as a defence for the harmful effect of 5G is laughable. I am talking from the company itself.

Hahahaha
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Maestro21: 10:17pm On Apr 12, 2020
onlyfacts:
Just brilliant!!! Very brilliant research!!! The current crop of the US executives headed by Trump is very critical of China. CIA surely would have had this facts and used it against China by now!!! But if you are wiser and did more research than CIA, publish it. We will help you move it to front page, in this social media age once it gets to twitter it is finished. A US diplomat or administrator or reputable news outlet will feature it!

Cc maestro21
LOL.

When Trump rescinded on the US' promise to pay WHO $56M that they agreed to pay what was his reason? I can help you out here. He said because WHO misinformed him and are very china-centric.

If Trump was always against them he would not have signed that $200B deal he signed Nov/Dec 15 2019 with China, only for China to insert a clause that absolves them of paying for damages should a pandemic occur. DJT consulted WHO and they told him there is no impending pandemic, and as soon as US signs, the first case of COVID-19 from China is announced and here we are today.

So in retaliation, DJT has attacked them, WHO, and you can tell he did that after he was briefed. Do some freaking research. I am not going to be spoon-feeding you.
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Maestro21: 10:19pm On Apr 12, 2020
onlyfacts:
I'm happy I schooled you wink

NOW 5G RESEARCH ?!
Hahaha.

Delusion is sweet. Man ran because he did not want to see that even corpses are tested per WHO guidelines.
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Funaki:
Maestro21:
[s]I won't spoon-feed you no matter how hard you try.

Keep rehashing hogwash that is easily disprovable and absolutely ridiculous when it is not plain st.upid.

I tossed you a bone concerning Huawei. If you had just started from there, you'd have seen the company testifying that what you have up here as a defence for the harmful effect of 5G is laughable. I am talking from the company itself.

Hahahaha[/s]
Kindly easily disprove the hogwash with your independent research and stop all these your reiteration angry angry. I am getting bored. You have not actually disproved anything since yesterday, all you did was boast of how you have a deep knowledge somewhere of how everything I said is wrong without actually showing how. In a logical discussion, you present your facts on how your argument is superior to the other side. But you've avoided doing that since this started. This can only mean one thing, you don't actually have any research, all you depend on was some conspiracy theories spilled by your pastor that you've been running along with which you can't back up. None of you have been able to present any evidence you have of how 5G killed people in Wuhan China.

Easily disprove all have said and stop repeating your rant of "spoon feeding". You aren't spoon feeding anybody, it is just your tactics of not presenting your well thought out research.

There's no Huawei Statement about any harmful effects of 5G, if you have it post it here, except if from your fake conspiracy sites. The concern of US and the EU with Huawei has always been about national security and not Health. They were only afraid of China security threat in building their 5G infrastructure.

You still need to show your evidence of 5G killing people in Wuhan China. It's very much needed. All you have to do is just give one evidence you have. Please don't avoid it this time with your "spoon feeding" phrase, you seem to like that grin grin grin.
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Buliwyf: 11:35pm On Apr 12, 2020
Maestro21:
Hahaha.

Delusion is sweet. Man ran because he did not want to see that even corpses are tested per WHO guidelines.
So you think striking out quotes is an argument? LMAO. Like pastor like mugu followers.
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op):
When Trump rescinded on the US' promise to pay WHO $56M that they agreed to pay what was his reason? I can help you out here. He said because WHO misinformed him and are very china-centric.
Trump announces ,then reverses that decision in MINUTES to freeze $56M funding for World Health Organization. https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/04/07/trump-threatens-world-health-organization-funding-171859

He said because WHO misinformed him and are very china-centric.
Moreover WHO is a non-governmental organization and doesn't owe US but the whole world it's support. Member states of the UN funds it; the US being it's highest donor member state and from voluntary donations from the private sector. It is based in Geneva. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/04/08/who-responds-to-trumps-threat-to-cut-funding.html


If Trump was always against them he would not have signed that [b]$200B deal he signed Nov/Dec 15 2019 [/b]with China, only for China to insert a clause that absolves them of paying for damages should a pandemic occur.
So this is your myth of a research?
Here are the facts: Chinese Vice Premier Liu He and US President Donald Trump sign a trade agreement between the US and China in the White House in Washington, DC, January 15, 2020. (not on NOV/DEC 15th of 2019 as you lied.
On Dec. 15, 2019 Trump averted the introduction of a new wave of U.S. tariffs on about $160 billion in consumer goods coming from China)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/01/15/trump-and-china-sign-phase-one-trade-agreement.html

DJT consulted WHO and they told him there is no impending pandemic, and [b]as soon as US signs, the first case of COVID-19 from China [/b]is announced and here we are today.
First case of death from COVID-19 in mainland China was on January 11, 2020, four days before the trade deal was signed. January 13, 2020, two days to the trade deal signing, the first coronavirus case outside of China was reported in Thailand.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-pandemic-timeline-history-major-events-2020-3%3famp

The WHO declared COVID-19 a global emergency on Jan. 30, this was before trump tweeted in March ( nearly a month after) that "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA" and before he declared a national emergency on March 13 (mean while WHO declared it's emergency on Jan. 30).

Not only that two days earlier, on March 11, WHO officials declared the outbreak a pandemic ( 2 days before the US on March 13 declared a national emergency). So trump had enough warning and time to prepare, he is only trying to save face seeing how badly hit the US is currently. So your facts does not hold water but liesgrin

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/04/07/trump-blames-who-for-getting-coronavirus-pandemic-wrong-threatens-to-withhold-funding.html



If Trump was always against them he would not have signed that $200B deal he signed Nov/Dec 15 2019 [/b]with China, only for China to insert a clause that absolves them of paying for damages should a pandemic occur.
The agreement of the trade deal [b]says China will increase purchases of U.S. (and not the opposite as you lied) manufacturing, energy and agricultural goods and services by at least $200 billion over two years, therefore china is to spend $200 billion as part of the deal and not the US.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/01/15/trump-and-china-sign-phase-one-trade-agreement.html

So these are the half baked research you have been beating your chest since ongrin

SO OFFICIALLY YOU HAVEN'T PROVED THAT THE CIA AND THE US GOVERNMENT KNOW THAT 5G KILLED PEOPLE IN WUHAN OR ANYWHERE ELSE.

SO POST YOUR WUHAN 5G DEATH RESEARCH LET ME EXPOSE YOU, MR RESEARCHERgrin
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Truthchiz: 12:38am On Apr 13, 2020
onlyfacts:
Guy end this foolishness now before I stop watching the 12 videos I have started.

You should just drag me to your church now undecided

First video, unrelated to 5G. I wasted data but here is what I learnt. Pastor Chris here again claims that the goal of the pandemic by government is to "prevent people from going to church".

That may seem logical on the surface but looking at it critically you see it doesn't only affect the church, it affects the whole word and society.

The oil industries are affected globally, oil demand is on the low.
The air line industries are affected globally, most flights and destinations have been canceled.
The transportation sectors globally are suffering due to lack of human and goods movement.
Global commerce is suffering, stock exchange and foreign reserves depleted.
People have lots jobs, including the rich and powerful.


But pastor Chris choose to make this pandemic only about the church, like they are the most affected.
Leave those people oh. They lie more than the devil. Their father is lies personified. Don't worry yourself. It's in their DNA.
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by onlyfacts(op): 12:53am On Apr 13, 2020
Truthchiz:
Leave those people oh. They lie more than the devil. Their father is lies personified. Don't worry yourself. It's in their DNA.
I have left them bro, stupidity is their first namegrin
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Maestro21: 4:22pm On Apr 14, 2020
Funaki:
[s]Kindly easily disprove the hogwash with your independent research and stop all these your reiteration angry angry. I am getting bored. You have not actually disproved anything since yesterday, all you did was boast of how you have a deep knowledge somewhere of how everything I said is wrong without actually showing how. In a logical discussion, you present your facts on how your argument is superior to the other side. But you've avoided doing that since this started. This can only mean one thing, you don't actually have any research, all you depend on was some conspiracy theories spilled by your pastor that you've been running along with which you can't back up. None of you have been able to present any evidence you have of how 5G killed people in Wuhan China.

Easily disprove all have said and stop repeating your rant of "spoon feeding". You aren't spoon feeding anybody, it is just your tactics of not presenting your well thought out research.

There's no Huawei Statement about any harmful effects of 5G, if you have it post it here, except if from your fake conspiracy sites. The concern of US and the EU with Huawei has always been about national security and not Health. They were only afraid of China security threat in building their 5G infrastructure.

You still need to show your evidence of 5G killing people in Wuhan China. It's very much needed. All you have to do is just give one evidence you have. Please don't avoid it this time with your "spoon feeding" phrase, you seem to like that grin grin grin[/s].
Anybody who is trying to dig out information for the sake of knowledge will just passively use the bones I have thrown to see if they would find anything on the other end. You are either actively not doing so or have done so, found something and would rather stick to gaslighting because you know Maestro21 will not help you.

What is actually risible is, even on say YouTube videos or blogs of some of the rehashed piffle on 5G that you have been pointing my way, you would see comments of active players (some of which are installers) sharing their personal experiences and knowledge about the harmful effects of 5G. There have been symposiums, I even mentioned a paper that is available that can be read. I am talking a scientific journal that predates the present hoopla on 5G.

Then you have other well-known experts in the field. Both IT, Telecoms, medical fields with their own blogs and preliminary evidence backing their stance. A rational person will juxtapose their findings with the rubbish coming from the vested interests and then make conclusions. Even gleaning through my previous posts on NL I have mentioned that Senate hearings on this issue were started from last year into this. In one, Senator Blumenthal queried the director of the FCC about the harmful effects of 5G. I won't even bother telling you what the freaking Director himself said.

You are asking me about Wuhan? LOL. Did you go to Google and type anything to see if you would not be flushed with videos and links emanating from the Chinese version of Twitter where you would see Chinese people discussing 5G in Wuhan?

You are talking about fake news and Huawei when I told you specifically that the TWEET emanated from their OWN twitter handle talking about "no NEW issues" with 5G. You may entertain yourself with the comments from other twitter users and the questions thrown at Huawei (which they could not answer).

But be there, looking for posts from BAT telling you how smoke from tobacco is no different than smoke from a chimney and therefore is not carcinogenic.

I laugh at your gross ignorance and lack of palpable research and won't be wasting my time with you until you provide what your own INDEPENDENT research has delivered to you.
Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by Maestro21: 4:23pm On Apr 14, 2020
Buliwyf:
[s]So you think striking out quotes is an argument? LMAO. Like pastor like mugu followers[/s].
Pain is real.
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