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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nowenuse: 3:18pm On Apr 17, 2020
Redcrafton:
Seeing posts from the North, East, West and Middle belt...one can confirm that Nigeria is not a country but a space inhabited by different bed fellows.
This is supported by the comments of the major founders (See picture below)We will prosper more and respect each other more if we operate in a federation, so each region can progress at their own pace. However, we love to deceive ourselves that we are okay in one Nigeria when it is obvious to a foreigner that we don't love ourselves. How many people are patriotic enough with raising the Nigerian flag?

Of all the comments by the founders of Nigeria, Tafawa Balewa comments seems the best of the situation we found ourselves.
For those blaming Zik for rejecting secession clause....he has corrected himself with his quote.
Yes oo, Nigeria can never be one.

That is why people like us get so angry at Yorubas when we see them propagating one Nigeria and unity-begging just like their father Tinubu is doing.
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Covidodo: 3:19pm On Apr 17, 2020
Nowenuse:
@ Legendhero.

Ooh, less I forget, one of the richest Indigenous companies in West Africa (Nasco) still has their headquarters in Jos. Why haven't they relocated all these decades?
No Indigenous company in Oyo, Osun, Kwara, Ondo & Ekiti is as worth as Nasco, yet why is Nasco not relocating to your area?

Pls someone should tell me something I am missing.


The only National Vertinary research institute in Nigeria is in Jos and this encouraged the establishment of the INTEGRATED DAIRIES LTD (one of the leading indigenous companies in Nigeria taking national Dairy production to the next level).

https://integrateddairies.alanandgrant.com/

You cannot compare this with all those Hollandia and house of Chi products in Ogun that import all their dairy products directly from Holland.

In the gym I attend, there are 6 white people & Indians. Whites, Indians, Chinese & Arabs are all over Jos.
Infact, Apart from Lagos, Abuja and perhaps PH, I don't think any Nigerian city/ state has much foreigners like Jos!

How can foreigners be living in a killing/battleground?
How many foreigners live in Osun, Oyo, Ekiti or Ondo?

Pls, can someone give me an answer?

Jos is already naturally blessed! No one can curse the city.
You can parrot the achievements of your people without being anti Yoruba.

You can seek for the emancipation of your people without maligning us .

But if you insist on being anti Yoruba here , nah where wahala go dey be that .

And I promise to be battle ready all the time
Osetigo ?
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Iamgrey5(m): 3:19pm On Apr 17, 2020
Nowenuse:
Oga pls be reading well before you type.

Yorubas lost their dominant areas to Hausa fulanis, but they did not leave the entire city of course. They simply relocated to Indigenous/Igbo dominated areas. Same way you did in Kano & Kaduna.
Bro keep twisting your Narrative to suite your new stance.

First
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Goke7: 3:19pm On Apr 17, 2020
Redcrafton:
Pictures don't lie Ogbeni. Twisting facts with clear pictures?
Your decades if lying will come to an end some day.
[b]The only reason they were talking about UN and international community is to ensure you don't steal their properties as was done in Port-harcourt. [/b]Poor people always look for a way to loot from the rich. How many properties do you own outside your region. Zilch.
Stop ridiculing yourself. What more can be done to the Igbos that was not done in 1966-1970?
what property una get, were your properties not returned to you after the civil war? thank God you have finally admitted you cried to the UN.

and who want to own a property in the shithole yeast where London and US dey, abeg talk another story, owning properties in a landlocked forsaken SE is the most insane thing to do in a modern Nigeria.
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Covidodo: 3:21pm On Apr 17, 2020
Nowenuse:
Yorubas were the ones who insulted me first on this thread and I have proven it.

So I have no business with Yorubas.

I wouldn't have joined this thread if not that you Yorubas & Hausa fulanis were telling blatant lies which affects my people.

Open any thread and tell a lie which affects me and I would be there, only that I may not be having all time always.
Stop lying bro.
This useless thread was even opened in the first place by one Ibo boy .
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Covidodo: 3:22pm On Apr 17, 2020
Goke7:
what property una get, were your properties not returned to you after the civil war? thank God you have finally admitted you cried to the UN.

and who want to own a property in the shithole yeast where London and US dey, abeg talk another story, owning properties in a landlocked forsaken SE is the most insane thing to do in a modern Nigeria.
Swears bro..
Why would I invest my hard earned money in a place where the owners are running away from ??
Isn't that madness grin cheesy
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Iamgrey5(m): 3:23pm On Apr 17, 2020
Redcrafton:
Aworis and Binis are not Yorubas. If they were why did the British do the stats?

May be they meant immigrants from Osun..like Tinibu cool
Read the history of Aworis

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awori_tribe

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awori_tribe

https://tribuneonlineng.com/when-ooni-hosted-awori-people-at-ile-ife-celebrated-olofin-ogunfunminire/

Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Goke7: 3:24pm On Apr 17, 2020
Covidodo:
Swears bro..
Why would I invest my hard earned money in a place where the owners are running away from ??
Isn't that madness
grin cheesy
honestly I don't know what else to call it, real gbese
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Redcrafton: 3:25pm On Apr 17, 2020
Goke7:
what property una get, were your properties not returned to you after the civil war? thank God you have finally admitted you cried to the UN.

and who want to own a property in the shithole yeast where London and US dey, abeg talk another story, owning properties in a landlocked forsaken SE is the most insane thing to do in a modern Nigeria.
Which one do you own in Abuja, PH, Kaduna, Jos, Markudi, Warri, Benin and other places. So only can buy in Lodnon and US? I accept the truth. I don't do propaganda like you. So now you have accepted that you lied that Igbos went begging.
I can assure you that Igbos are ready to even lose all those if referendum can be agreed, so they can vote. They just don't want your people who are always aggressive to loot their property if the separation comes with force. See what is happening in Lagos.
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Iamgrey5(m): 3:26pm On Apr 17, 2020
Nowenuse:
@ Legendhero.

Ooh, less I forget, one of the richest Indigenous companies in West Africa (Nasco) still has their headquarters in Jos. Why haven't they relocated all these decades?
No Indigenous company in Oyo, Osun, Kwara, Ondo & Ekiti is as worth as Nasco, yet why is Nasco not relocating to your area?

Pls someone should tell me something I am missing.


The only National Vertinary research institute in Nigeria is in Jos and this encouraged the establishment of the INTEGRATED DAIRIES LTD (one of the leading indigenous companies in Nigeria taking national Dairy production to the next level).

https://integrateddairies.alanandgrant.com/

You cannot compare this with all those Hollandia and house of Chi products in Ogun that import all their dairy products directly from Holland.

In the gym I attend, there are 6 white people & Indians. Whites, Indians, Chinese & Arabs are all over Jos.
Infact, Apart from Lagos, Abuja and perhaps PH, I don't think any Nigerian city/ state has much foreigners like Jos!

How can foreigners be living in a killing/battleground?
How many foreigners live in Osun, Oyo, Ekiti or Ondo?

Pls, can someone give me an answer?

Jos is already naturally blessed! No one can curse the city.
Was Nasco created by someone from Plateau?

Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Redcrafton: 3:27pm On Apr 17, 2020
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Iamgrey5(m): 3:28pm On Apr 17, 2020
Redcrafton:
I didn't do the stat..the British did.
Where is link?
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Covidodo: 3:29pm On Apr 17, 2020
Nowenuse:
Yes oo, Nigeria can never be one.

That is why people like us get so angry at Yorubas when we see them propagating one Nigeria and unity-begging just like their father Tinubu is doing.
See talk ..
Who's Tinubu ??

This is the issue I always have with people like you .

Is Gowon not a greater one Nigerianist than Tinubu ??
And Gowon is not even a politician .

Tinubu like any other politician from the North, East , South is self serving and would never want to let go of the power one Nigeria has given them.

Where are people like Mark , Ekweremadu , GEJ and TY Danjuma in this picture . Aren't they all self serving one Nigerianists.

But Tinubu is y'all problem ..Gosh

The same Tinubu that struggled to win Ogun and , Osun and Lagos in the last elections .

PDP rules Oyo. Ondo and Ekiti are not Tinubu's friends .
But hey agenda must agend cheesy

Death to One Nigeria !!!
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by wowcatty: 3:32pm On Apr 17, 2020
Portuguese arrived Lagos in 1472 and met Yoruba there.

Atlantic slave trade met Yoruba in Lagos in 1612

English fought Ijebu in Lagos from 1849 till they surrendered.

You had the option of staying in your region but chose to be a foreigner in another man's backyard and that's what you will remain until you can go and build your own Lagos in your region.
Redcrafton:
Yorubas started coming to Lagos between 1931 to 1950....than other people see pic.

Everybody contributed to the development of Lagos.
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Goke7: 3:32pm On Apr 17, 2020
Redcrafton:
Which one do you own in Abuja, PH, Kaduna, Jos, Markudi, Warri, Benin and other places. So only can buy in Lodnon and US? I accept the truth. I don't do propaganda like you. So now you have accepted that you lied that Igbos went begging.
I can assure you that Igbos are ready to even lose all those if referendum can be agreed, so they can vote. They just don't want your people who are always aggressive to loot their property if the separation comes with force. See what is happening in Lagos.
never in our history have we looted the properties of fellow Nigerians, not even during the civil war. na una shadow dey pursue una with all the bad and wicked things you guys have done to others in order to grab what's not yours. As for referendum, tell your reps and senators in the National assembly to push for one, they are the real cowards abi na we go push referendum for una again?
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Covidodo: 3:33pm On Apr 17, 2020
Redcrafton:
Which one do you own in Abuja, PH, Kaduna, Jos, Markudi, Warri, Benin and other places. So only can buy in Lodnon and US? I accept the truth. I don't do propaganda like you. So now you have accepted that you lied that Igbos went begging.
I can assure you that Igbos are ready to even lose all those if referendum can be agreed, so they can vote. They just don't want your people who are always aggressive to loot their property if the separation comes with force. See what is happening in Lagos.
Even my arch enemy here Nowenuse just supplied some Yoruba owned properties in his Plateau.
Because we don't make noise doesn't mean we don't ball all around Nigeria too.

Just that Yorubas are allergic to the enclave East of the Niger River ..sorry bruv cheesy
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Covidodo: 3:34pm On Apr 17, 2020
wowcatty:
Portuguese arrived Lagos in 1472 and met Yoruba there.

Atlantic slave trade met Yoruba in Lagos in 1612

English fought Ijebu in Lagos from 1849 till they surrendered.

You had the option of staying in your region but chose to be a foreigner in another man's backyard and that's what you will remain until you can go and build your own Lagos in your region.
God bless you bro.

Maybe the Aworis , Ijebu and Egba people that are indigenous to Lagos are descendents of Nri grin
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Redcrafton: 3:36pm On Apr 17, 2020
Covidodo:
Swears bro..
Why would I invest my hard earned money in a place where the owners are running away from ??
Isn't that madness grin cheesy
The owners are truly running away from the places in these pics?
Ogbeni you simply cannot afford to get any land there. That's the fact.

Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Covidodo: 3:37pm On Apr 17, 2020
Redcrafton:
The owners are truly running away from the places in these pics?
Ogbeni you simply cannot afford to get any land there. That's the fact.
We don't want that land even if it goes for 50 naira per plot grin cheesy

Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Goke7: 3:38pm On Apr 17, 2020
Covidodo:
See talk ..
Who's Tinubu ??

This is the issue I always have with people like you .

Is Gowon not a greater one Nigerianist than Tinubu ??
And Gowon is not even a politician .

Tinubu like any other politician from the North, East , South is self serving and would never want to let go of the power one Nigeria has given them.

Where are people like Mark , Ekweremadu , GEJ and TY Danjuma in this picture . Aren't they all self serving one Nigerianists.

But Tinubu is y'all problem ..Gosh

The same Tinubu that struggled to win Ogun and , Osun and Lagos in the last elections .

PDP rules Oyo. Ondo and Ekiti are not Tinubu's friends .
But hey agenda must agend cheesy
na tinubu even give dem the mouth wey dem get now when he started making them commissioners and other appointments [they owe him much gratitude but still despise him] and thank God that rebel agbaje no enter, he for sell Lagos finish to them [reason they wanted him]. The miscalculations these politicians keep making is what has embolden these dummies.
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Redcrafton: 3:39pm On Apr 17, 2020
wowcatty:
Portuguese arrived Lagos in 1472 and met Yoruba there.

Atlantic slave trade met Yoruba in Lagos in 1612

English fought Ijebu in Lagos from 1849 till they surrendered.

You had the option of staying in your region but chose to be a foreigner in another man's backyard and that's what you will remain until you can go and build your own Lagos in your region.
There was no regions when the Portuguese came. Lagos was a protectorate of its own. The Aworis and the fishing tribe form Bini own Lagos.
You come all the way from Osun claiming Lagos. Would you blame a man from Borno claiming Abuja. You guys are funny.
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nowenuse: 3:40pm On Apr 17, 2020
forgiveness:
First of all, Ibadan is more cosmopolitan than both Jos and Kaduna.

Secondly, part of SW formed part of Abuja.

Thirdly, it was wrong in the first place for British to allocate lands to Yorubas in Jos. No Yoruba man will support and fight for land grabbing which tantamounts to injustice. Kudos to the Yorubas for given up the land.

Fourthly, every human being with his own philosophy. Yorubas philosophy is to achieve their goals and they have many ways to do that. Yorubas singlehandedly sponsored and used NADECO to fight against Abacha. Yorubas singlehandedly forced the whole country to present Yorubas as candidate in 1999. Yorubas were significant in ending the Civil war. Yorubas used press to kick PDP out of power. There's a saying that goes like this.... there are many ways to catch fish.

Hause Fulani knows the group to fear most. If you think Yorubas are cowards, good luck to you.
Ibadan more cosmopolitan than Jos/Kaduna is a lie from the pit of hell.
Even during the regional govt days, Ibadan would not beat Jos/Kaduna in terms of cosmopolitanism.

In Jos & Kaduna, before crisis divided the cities along religious lines you have Igbo dominated areas, Hausa dominated areas, Indigenous dominated areas even Igala/Idomas areas & Urhobo areas and everyone lived in peace.

The Northern region was more cosmopolitan than the Western region and Kaduna was the capital of the old Northern region, so tell me how Ibadan could beat that?

Jos started attracting settlers from all over Nigeria from 1900 when the British needed more and more Tin mining workers.
Yorubas came, Igbos came, Hausa fulanis came and Bendelites came.
Read this link about the Ogbomosho people in Jos by a Yoruba man and see that they arrived in Jos more than 100 years ago.

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2012/11/19/the-ogbomoso-people-in-jos/amp/

Urhobo community in Jos is so powerful that u can imagine that the only 2 Urhobo people and Nigerdeltan minorities who have won the Big brother Africa challenge were both born & bred in Jos!
Karen Igho's dowry was even paid in Jos. I wonder if that woman and her family even know the road to their village in Delta state grin

Do u know how many Lebanese, Ethiopians, Indians & Whites call Jos their homecity?

D'banj's pretty wife is of SouthAfrican/American heritage but the only city she has ever known or call her hometown is Jos and she is a cousin to this MTVbase co-host below Samantha Walsh. Their entire extended family claim Jos as their hometown.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSS9Ff38BLAqccVowB-66lKsEqcG4912jVDu_jC9BGRko-1wJXw&usqp=CAU

Ibadan will never beat Jos in cosmopolitanism in this life nor in the life to come.
The weather and exotic fruits & vegetables in Jos alone is enough to make Jos 50% foreigners by population (all we need to do is promote it).


And 2ndly, what do you mean some part of SW formed Abuja? grin. Are you talking about Abaji LGA that was part of old West-Central (Kwara state)?

You see, due to the COWARDICE of you Yorubas, you have never gotten the balls to claim Kwara state and only God knows if u will ever get them.

Neither Kwara or old West-Central state was ever part of the SW.

Infact, West central state at the time of creation was not even dominantly Yoruba, and I have had this debate here with a Yoruba guy and thrashed him till he ran away.
West central state was middlebelt dominated and Yorubas were a minority in that state.
That state was made up of the whole Kwara & Kogi combined + Abaji (FCT) and Borgu (Niger state) combined.

Even when Igalas, Borgus & Abajis left the state and it became Kwara and Yoruba dominated, minorities were still dominating the Yorubas there! E.g the Ebiras who produced the first elected governor of the new state.

Kwara/Kogi Yorubas have always been bitches to the Caliphate & Kwararafan descendants and only God knows when that will end cry

Cc Covidodo, Legendhero, Iamgrey5
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Covidodo: 3:40pm On Apr 17, 2020
Goke7:
na tinubu even give dem the mouth wey dem get now when he started making them commissioners and other appointments [they owe him much gratitude but still despise him] and thank God that rebel agbaje no enter, he for sell Lagos finish to them [reason they wanted him]. The miscalculations these politicians keep making is what has embolden these dummies.
I swear bruv..
Only if you know how much I hate the liberals amongst us .
Sadly , those unfortunate liberals are in the majority
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by DATACUG: 3:41pm On Apr 17, 2020
I support you
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Redcrafton: 3:42pm On Apr 17, 2020
Covidodo:
We don't want that land even if it goes for 50 naira per plot grin cheesy
Yes the lands here are N50 per plot wink

Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Goke7: 3:47pm On Apr 17, 2020
Covidodo:
I swear bruv..
Only if you know how much I hate the liberals amongst us .
Sadly , those unfortunate liberals are in the majority
that is what these dummies are taking advantage of, cross river could not even appoint a judge from a nearby state of origin even though her husband is from cross river, Abia some years back sacked civil servants from other eastern states. How many igbos are patronizing innosson motors but they want every other Nigerian to buy by force. I don tire for our liberal matter for SW and even in workplaces here in Lagos, we see the scheming they do to always get one of their own in position of advantage, when they are doing it, its no tribalism but when we do ours na tribalism and they begin to call us names making the liberals among us to cower. Honestly i don tire
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by wowcatty:
The Op is using threads like this to console himself because he knows his region has no wealth and at the mercy of two regions and will never be great like Yorubaland. It must be really hard on him to know that Yorubaland makes and breaks him and all his aspirations and the day Yoruba say enough is the day he dies!

Finally, the only reason we will continue to see this type of topics is that Yoruba are not protecting their land as it should be.

Yorubaland built all the regions of Nigeria except the SS which is also a viable region, the remaining 4 regions are a drag always in need of assistance from the Yorubaland and the Niger delta. These 4 region would have been like states in Somalia if we still have regional govts where they have no access to all the money in Yorubaland.

Keep saying what you want right now, when Yoruba get it right, you will be the first to know!
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nowenuse: 3:49pm On Apr 17, 2020
Covidodo:
You can parrot the achievements of your people without being anti Yoruba.

You can seek for the emancipation of your people without maligning us .

But if you insist on being anti Yoruba here , nah where wahala go dey be that .

And I promise to be battle ready all the time
Osetigo ?
Hahaha, my brother as long as we all live in this mad Fuji house of commotion called Nigeria together, you think our paths will not cross?

Even I thought it would be possible in the past, but hell no! Unless this madhouse is divided, we will continue to step on each other's toes!

Just that let us try to be as civilized about it to the best possible way we can, cos none of us have anything to gain by destroying each other.
Ese gan wink
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Redcrafton:
Covidodo:
I swear bruv..
Only if you know how much I hate the liberals amongst us .
Sadly , those unfortunate liberals are in the majority
Liberal or not...people are ready to sell their lands in Lagos to anyone who has cash....

The developers from the Eastside don't play hide and seek no do tribalism. They invest where they live and not forgetting where they come from. They are not petty nor clannish. they have lion heart and able to share with others.

Pic: Nestoil Towers in Lagos....owned by an Eastside man

Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Covidodo: 3:56pm On Apr 17, 2020
Nowenuse:
Ibadan more cosmopolitan than Jos/Kaduna is a lie from the pit of hell.
Even during the regional govt days, Ibadan would not beat Jos/Kaduna in terms of cosmopolitanism.

In Jos & Kaduna, before crisis divided the cities along religious lines you have Igbo dominated areas, Hausa dominated areas, Indigenous dominated areas even Igala/Idomas areas & Urhobo areas and everyone lived in peace.

The Northern region was more cosmopolitan than the Western region and Kaduna was the capital of the old Northern region, so tell me how Ibadan could beat that?

Jos started attracting settlers from all over Nigeria from 1900 when the British needed more and more Tin mining workers.
Yorubas came, Igbos came, Hausa fulanis came and Bendelites came.
Read this link about the Ogbomosho people in Jos by a Yoruba man and see that they arrived in Jos more than 100 years ago.

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2012/11/19/the-ogbomoso-people-in-jos/amp/

Urhobo community in Jos is so powerful that u can imagine that the only 2 Urhobo people and Nigerdeltan minorities who have won the Big brother Africa challenge were both born & bred in Jos!
Karen Igho's dowry was even paid in Jos. I wonder if that woman and her family even know the road to their village in Delta state grin

Do u know how many Lebanese, Ethiopians, Indians & Whites call Jos their homecity?

D'banj's pretty wife is of SouthAfrican/American heritage but the only city she has ever known or call her hometown is Jos and she is a cousin to this MTVbase co-host below Samantha Walsh. Their entire extended family claim Jos as their hometown.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSS9Ff38BLAqccVowB-66lKsEqcG4912jVDu_jC9BGRko-1wJXw&usqp=CAU

Ibadan will never beat Jos in cosmopolitanism in this life nor in the life to come.
The weather and exotic fruits & vegetables in Jos alone is enough to make Jos 50% foreigners by population (all we need to do is promote it).


And 2ndly, what do you mean some part of SW formed Abuja? grin. Are you talking about Abaji LGA that was part of old West-Central (Kwara state)?

You see, due to the COWARDICE of you Yorubas, you have never gotten the balls to claim Kwara state and only God knows if u will ever get them.

Neither Kwara or old West-Central state was ever part of the SW.

Infact, West central state at the time of creation was not even dominantly Yoruba, and I have had this debate here with a Yoruba guy and thrashed him till he ran away.
West central state was middlebelt dominated and Yorubas were a minority in that state.
That state was made up of the whole Kwara & Kogi combined + Abaji (FCT) and Borgu (Niger state) combined.

Even when Igalas, Borgus & Abajis left the state and it became Kwara and Yoruba dominated, minorities were still dominating the Yorubas there! E.g the Ebiras who produced the first elected governor of the new state.

Kwara/Kogi Yorubas have always been bitches to the Caliphate & Kwararafan descendants and only God knows when that will end cry

Cc Covidodo, Legendhero, Iamgrey5
What do you mean by getting Kwara back ??
Do you mean getting it back into the South West geopolitical zone or what grin cheesy

Kwara state was never in Western region bruv .

And it's extremely laughable . Did we lose Kwara ??

You of all people should know the ethnic composition of Kwara state and the folks running things there . From Unilorin to FedPoly Offa and all.

I was in Ilorin immediately after my finals to go chill with my friends and it felt like I never left Ibadan .
The next time I get my leave , I'd be running down to Ilorin again.

My fiancee is from Offa in Kwara and they are even more Yoruba than some of us from the south west .

Saraki who was the former kingkong of Ilorin politics migrated from Egbaland in Abeokuta . .
AA, the current governor is a full blooded Yoruba man . Same with the late Mohammed Lawal and Fatah Ahmed .

So pray tell the non Yorubas running things in Kwara . Abi is there another Kwara I don't know .

Infact , Ilorin is even more Yoruba in outlook than Lagos and some parts of Ogun at the moment .

The Okuns in Kogi have their own senatorial district and they sure can hold their own in Kogi .
Smart Adeyemi and Dino Melaye are definitely 2 of the most popular politicians from Kogi .

Yorubas are minority in Kogi and it would be so difficult for Yorubas to dominate that state politically .

Why are your Kwararafa people not dominating Kaduna politics ?? Why are the Fulani not dominating Plateau politics ??
I hope you Understand now .

Will the minority Ijaw group in Ondo ever dominate Ondo politics ??

What about the minority Egun in Lagos and Ogun ?? Will they ever dominate the politics of those places ??

The answer is NO.

We would just keep going round and round in circles and that's boring and unreasonable .

PS : The only thing that makes people talk about Ilorin is nothing but the religion.

The Benin stool is Ife. The Itshekiri stool is Benin . The Onitsha stool is Benin . The English stool is French .

Benin is not Yoruba . Itshekiri is not Benin . Onitsha is not Benin and London doesn't belong to the French .

When will Benin people take Benin back. When will Igbo people take Onitsha back . When will Itshekiri people take Escravos back and when will the English people take London back .

Shey you get my logic grin
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nowenuse: 3:57pm On Apr 17, 2020
Covidodo:
Even my arch enemy here Nowenuse just supplied some Yoruba owned properties in his Plateau.
Because we don't make noise doesn't mean we don't ball all around Nigeria too.

Just that Yorubas are allergic to the enclave East of the Niger River ..sorry bruv cheesy
Hahaha, naso this our conversation don pain u reach sotay I don turn your archenemy?
For me you are still a Zoogerian brother grin. And I can't call u my archenemy.

And yes, I will not support Igbos to tell lies as much as I have a soft spot for them

So Redcrafton, Yorubas actually have much properties & investments in the North & Middlebelt and even in places like Kaduna & to an extent Jos, Yorubas can match Igbos in properties. In Niger state & Kebbi states, Yorubas should outnumber Igbos in presence and properties although through Suleja (Abuja), Igbos could now be matching Yorubas in Niger state.

As for the SS. I lived much of my life in Delta/Edo. Yes, Yorubas have properties in both states, especially Edo state, but it cannot be compared to that of Kaduna/Jos.

However, Igbos in general have 10 or 20x more properties than Yorubas in the entire North & SS combined. That's the reason why some people think Igbos can never seccede.
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Goke7: 3:59pm On Apr 17, 2020
Nowenuse:
Ibadan more cosmopolitan than Jos/Kaduna is a lie from the pit of hell.
Even during the regional govt days, Ibadan would not beat Jos/Kaduna in terms of cosmopolitanism.

In Jos & Kaduna, before crisis divided the cities along religious lines you have Igbo dominated areas, Hausa dominated areas, Indigenous dominated areas even Igala/Idomas areas & Urhobo areas and everyone lived in peace.

The Northern region was more cosmopolitan than the Western region and Kaduna was the capital of the old Northern region, so tell me how Ibadan could beat that?

Jos started attracting settlers from all over Nigeria from 1900 when the British needed more and more Tin mining workers.
Yorubas came, Igbos came, Hausa fulanis came and Bendelites came.
Read this link about the Ogbomosho people in Jos by a Yoruba man and see that they arrived in Jos more than 100 years ago.

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2012/11/19/the-ogbomoso-people-in-jos/amp/

Urhobo community in Jos is so powerful that u can imagine that the only 2 Urhobo people and Nigerdeltan minorities who have won the Big brother Africa challenge were both born & bred in Jos!
Karen Igho's dowry was even paid in Jos. I wonder if that woman and her family even know the road to their village in Delta state grin

Do u know how many Lebanese, Ethiopians, Indians & Whites call Jos their homecity?

D'banj's pretty wife is of SouthAfrican/American heritage but the only city she has ever known or call her hometown is Jos and she is a cousin to this MTVbase co-host below Samantha Walsh. Their entire extended family claim Jos as their hometown.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSS9Ff38BLAqccVowB-66lKsEqcG4912jVDu_jC9BGRko-1wJXw&usqp=CAU

Ibadan will never beat Jos in cosmopolitanism in this life nor in the life to come.
The weather and exotic fruits & vegetables in Jos alone is enough to make Jos 50% foreigners by population (all we need to do is promote it).


And 2ndly, what do you mean some part of SW formed Abuja? grin. Are you talking about Abaji LGA that was part of old West-Central (Kwara state)?

You see, due to the COWARDICE of you Yorubas, you have never gotten the balls to claim Kwara state and only God knows if u will ever get them.

Neither Kwara or old West-Central state was ever part of the SW.

Infact, West central state at the time of creation was not even dominantly Yoruba, and I have had this debate here with a Yoruba guy and thrashed him till he ran away.
West central state was middlebelt dominated and Yorubas were a minority in that state.
That state was made up of the whole Kwara & Kogi combined + Abaji (FCT) and Borgu (Niger state) combined.

Even when Igalas, Borgus & Abajis left the state and it became Kwara and Yoruba dominated, minorities were still dominating the Yorubas there! E.g the Ebiras who produced the first elected governor of the new state.

Kwara/Kogi Yorubas have always been bitches to the Caliphate & Kwararafan descendants and only God knows when that will end cry

Cc Covidodo, Legendhero, Iamgrey5
you still dey this matter? a city with the first university, first university teaching hospital, first tv station and so many other firsts. A city with the highest number of research institutes, Honestly history that was removed from our curriculum has done so much damage. brown roof pictures on nairaland has done great damage.

Jos is a microcosm of Ibadan, so many non yoruba elites settled there and even died there. In the hey days of UCH, people traveled all over the word to visit the hospital for treatment and a popular american artiste i cannot remember was born in uch. if na number of whites be your problem, there are lots of lebanese, indians, dutch and many other foreigners living in Ibadan because of the huge agriculture investments in Oyo state from where a lot of raw materials are gotten for industries in Lagos and other places. The great University of Ibadan is another major factor for the cosmopolitan nature over the years. Ibadan is underrated because states govts like Oyo are too laid back in projecting the state. ajimobi tried but Oyo state has not been too lucky like Lagos and Ogun in having very dynamic leaders. The last they had was Bola Ige.

argue with your keyboard but after Lagos, Abuja, Ibadan and ph should be dragging third in terms of being cosmopolitan just that the yorubas in Ibadan are just a different breed from the ones in Lagos who can use their mouth to abuse any body father cos they no get respect for crazy dudes and won't take rubbish like the Lagos people take from settlers
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