egopersonified:


If you read my comment before quoting me you would understand that I said no country is heaven. Hate for defending my country? Please.

To defend Nigeria? There is nothing to defend -- my point. Some needlessly showy person is doing what they do then you instantly insert Nigeria; and also the need to defend her. Canada is a richer country per capita, so countries like Nigeria (of course!) cannot do what they do.

Having said that, in my opinion, a better way to defend Nigeria will be to state what Nigeria is doing -- within it's means -- to protect Nigerians. Then there will be no need to drag Canada down with false statements.

4four:
but those countries like uk, us Canada and other deveped countries pariotise tax payers more than others, do u known the numbers of tax payers that had lose their jobs due to this virus and some of those that still ve their jobs have not receive last month salaries talkless of receiving this month own and they do not ve any money in saving. Personally I think this are the 1st set of people government should pariotise cos they add value and contribute to the economy, this will encourage others that ve not been paying their tax to do so cos it give hope that ur government will be there for u in the time of difficulty.

But even UK hasn't given to many in this category.

I know Nigerians don't like to listen to the truth and it is what always drags the country back.

The country is a poor country.

Not only is the country poor, it is overpopulated.

I see how the average Nigerian rather than sharing information on how to prosper on this forum busies himself with politics and irrelevances.

One would have thought this Coronavirus experience would jolt the average Nigerian into action but it appears not to.

Maybe it is just our make up.

No be everybody go make am for life.

Maybe that's the Nigerian fate.

Dtribeless:


Let me school you, mumu: Currency can be pegged, held static, or allowed to free float. Naira does not free-float, as it is probably really worth $1 to NGN 1000. So, the CBN has to actively manage our foreign exchange reserves so that business that are deemed necessary would be able to purchase dollars at the set-rate, not what it's truly worth. In free-float economies, the market -- that is demand -- dictates the rates. I can go on and on, but I already think you'd have issues comprehending the above.

Again, mumu, ask yourself, why is Canada not suffering after Ghana removed zeroes from their currency? I'll give you a clue: no one gives a shit as the demand for cedis outside the country is low or non-existent.

I wish I was able to explain this to you on friendlier terms, but your opening salvo was pungent and demanded a response. I'm will to change that and have a genuine discussion on this, as I noticed a lot of people don't know how this works and I will like to contribute.

half education is dangerous

rusher14:


But even UK hasn't given to many in this category.

I know Nigerians don't like to listen to the truth and it is what always drags the country back.

The country is a poor country.

Not only is the country poor, it is overpopulated.

I see how the average Nigerian rather than sharing information on how to prosper on this forum busies himself with politics and irrelevances.

One would have thought this Coronavirus experience would jolt the average Nigerian into action but it appears not to.

Maybe it is just our make up.

No be everybody go make am for life.

Maybe that's the Nigerian fate.

The country is overpopulated hence we can't manage it. Why dont we break it into manageable entities?

The 290 isn't for support pls, let's stop giving Nigerians at home heart attack. The 290 is for GST, it normally come quarterly....

a4cube:
The country is overpopulated hence we can't manage it. Why dont we break it into manageable entities?

It's funny how we once were once parliamentary but some people thought it was useless.

How time gives lessons.

rusher14:


Some of you don't get it or simply refuse to.

Canada has 35 million people. Nigeria has 180 million people.

Part of the problem are our parents but I know you wouldn't want to say anything terrible against them.

Even if you did a job that earns you 300 dollars the entire week, you would cough out at least 75 dollars from that cheque as tax.
But tell a Nigerian to pay tax and he'll be asking what has been done with the ones other people paid even if they were just 12% of the working population.

First, it's now about the population it's about a working system. US is paying about 1,200 also and the re over 300 million.
Secondly they simply have a system that is working thereby making everybody to pay tax. Just like Nigeria there re people who don't like to pay but so long you can't beat the system you must pay. So if Nigeria can put such in place you won't be knocking on people's door to pay tax, the system will simply deduct it from the source. Everybody pays tax so long you re working either white or blue collar job. It's all about a working system

bilulu:

First, it's now about the population it's about a working system. US is paying about 1,200 also and the re over 300 million.
Secondly they simply have a system that is working thereby making everybody to pay tax. Just like Nigeria there re people who don't like to pay but so long you can't beat the system you must pay. So if Nigeria can put such in place you won't be knocking on people's door to pay tax, the system will simply deduct it from the source. Everybody pays tax so long you re working either white or blue collar job. It's all about a working system

Nigeria put what in place?

Many Nigerians hate anything that does not accommodate fraud.

They did it with the census of 2006.

Did it with the resistance to PVC usage in 2015.

Resisted it quite recently with the National Identity Card.

Not to talk of tax through which the generality would be paying dues.

Let's not run from the truth.

A large number of Nigerians hate transparency.

rusher14:


It's funny how we once were once parliamentary but some people thought it was useless.

How time gives lessons.

Now you run from overpopulation to parliamentary. What next.

The day we tell ourselves the truth, that's the day we will enjoy the country.

rusher14:



I gave you simple arithmetic.

Show us the maths that would be used to give paliatives to 200 million people. At least make an attempt .

If you want us to go into the nuts and bolts, Buhari added 300k of the youth on an already overburdened wage bill via Npower. That is with less money.

Appears you are still crying over Jonathan from 6 years ago.

What a tragedy.

You only need a working system to do all that, it's not a rocket science. Also Nigerian government tends to increase everything they do that's why we feel some amount of money is no longer big. US is giving palliative and they re over 300 million. They have food bank and people go there every day for food yet no stampede because they have a working system. What Nigeria lack is that working system. No database. Canada for instance have a database, the moment you re coming, you re already profiled to your category, you have your SIN according to your category. It's through that SIN now that this money is being paid.

BEEFIE:


half education is dangerous

Better than none, no?

a4cube:
Now you run from overpopulation to parliamentary. What next.

The day we tell ourselves the truth, that's the day we will enjoy the country.

You asked for fragments and we had a working fragmented system which some did not like.

Is that not the truth?

Or is the truth only your opinion?

bilulu:

You only need a working system to do all that, it's not a rocket science. Also Nigerian government tends to increase everything they do that's why we feel some amount of money is no longer big. US is giving palliative and they re over 300 million. They have food bank and people go there every day for food yet no stampede because they have a working system. What Nigeria lack is that working system. No database. Canada for instance have a database, the moment you re coming, you re already profiled to your category, you have your SIN according to your category. It's through that SIN now that this money is being paid.

This database you speak of, did it fall from heaven or did their citizens create the backbone upon which it works?

Everytime I tell Nigerians it is about productivity they seem to switch to politics.

Well politics is of the people, and the people are getting the sum total of who they are.

rusher14:


Nigeria put what in place?

Many Nigerians hate anything that does not accommodate fraud.

They did it with the census of 2006.

Did it with the resistance to PVC usage in 2015.

Resisted it quite recently with the National Identity Card.

Not to talk of tax through which the generality would be paying dues.

Let's not run from the truth.

A large number of Nigerians hate transparency.

What you just said is not peculiar to Nigeria alone. It still boils down to a serious government. Have you noticed that most of our laws have loopholes? Let's start making laws without favoritism, let's start making laws that will not know "man no man". Those references you made were floored because of a non working system. I witnessed Canadian elections last year, bros I wept for my country. We only need a working system. Imagine a cabinet member criticizing its principal and nothing happens. Can it happen in Nigeria at the moment?

bilulu:

What you just said is not peculiar to Nigeria alone. It still boils down to a serious government. Have you noticed that most of our laws have loopholes? Let's start making laws without favoritism, let's start making laws that will not know "man no man". Those references you made were floored because of a non working system. I witnessed Canadian elections last year, bros I wept for my country. We only need a working system. Imagine a cabinet member criticizing its principal and nothing happens. Can it happen in Nigeria at the moment?

Did anybody steal the ballot over there?



Why not?

Can you say the same about an election to be held in the interior of Abonema,Yandev or Zaria?

Is it the government that steals the ballots in all locations or the citizens?

rusher14:


This database you speak of, did it fall from heaven or did their citizens create the backbone upon which it works?

Everytime I tell Nigerians it is about productivity they seem to switch to politics.

Well politics is of the people, and the people are getting the sum total of who they are.

Let's the government be serious. Look at US for instance, some Americans refuse to wear mask because Trump openly said he won't wear mask, that is how leader influences people either positively or negatively. Remember when Buhari came in we heard of body language and people were falling in line but when they saw it's business as usual what happened? So let's have a serious government and you will see. It cannot be achieved in 4 years but let's start first.

rusher14:


Did anybody steal the ballot over there?



Why not?

Can you say the same about an election to be held in the interior of Abonema,Yandev or Zaria?

Is it the government that steals the ballots in all locations or the citizens?

That's were I talked about loopholes in our laws, same people who will make the laws are the same people who will put those loopholes so that they can buy people to steal the ballot boxes. Did you follow South Africa elections last year too? Electronic voting, why can't we pass such laws? Because it won't favour them. What is stopping the national assembly for passing electronic voting?

rusher14:


Some of you don't get it or simply refuse to.

Canada has 35 million people. Nigeria has 180 million people.

Part of the problem are our parents but I know you wouldn't want to say anything terrible against them.

Even if you did a job that earns you 300 dollars the entire week, you would cough out at least 75 dollars from that cheque as tax.
But tell a Nigerian to pay tax and he'll be asking what has been done with the ones other people paid even if they were just 12% of the working population.

Too much rationalizing government excesses is a problem in this country. Does a governor in Canada have a security vote equivalent to N2 billion monthly from tax payers which he doesn’t account to anyone, even as police and security operatives in the state are paid salaries by FG? Do parliament members have constituency development allowances given to them from tax payers money?

Your president and governors are excessively compensated and wasteful in a poor country and all you can see is a large population as a problem.

Your country has a high youthful population who can be engaged in the manufacturing and agriculture sectors to grow the economy, but the wasteful representatives are telling you that’s a problem and you have to spend your time to explain it to your fellow citizens. SMH!

bilulu:

Let's the government be serious. Look at US for instance, some Americans refuse to wear mask because Trump openly said he won't wear mask, that is how leader influences people either positively or negatively. Remember when Buhari came in we heard of body language and people were falling in line but when they saw it's business as usual what happened? So let's have a serious government and you will see. It cannot be achieved in 4 years but let's start first.

Which serious government ?

You mean only the one a section of the country would support?

socialmediaman:


Too much rationalizing government excesses is a problem in this country. Does a governor in Canada have a security vote equivalent to N2 billion monthly from tax payers which he doesn’t account to anyone, even as police and security operatives in the state are paid salaries by FG? Do parliament members have constituency development allowances given to them from tax payers money?

Your president and governors are excessively compensated and wasteful in a poor country and all you can see is a large population as a problem.

Your country has a high youthful population who can be engaged in the manufacturing and agriculture sectors to grow the economy, but the wasteful representatives are telling you that’s a problem and you have to spend your time to explain it to your fellow citizens. SMH!

Who would put them in agriculture?

You must rationalise your situation to make a headway .

Nigerians are unproductive and continue to deflect from this fact yet they are eying Canada's palliatives.

No be long throat be that?

rusher14:


Some of you don't get it or simply refuse to.

Canada has 35 million people. Nigeria has 180 million people.

Part of the problem are our parents but I know you wouldn't want to say anything terrible against them.

Even if you did a job that earns you 300 dollars the entire week, you would cough out at least 75 dollars from that cheque as tax.
But tell a Nigerian to pay tax and he'll be asking what has been done with the ones other people paid even if they were just 12% of the working population.

You are highly brained brah! Most folks don't know thier parents are Nigerians problems giving birth to more kids than ur income can cover.5,6children.even if u are rich,why not give birth to 3max & make em av a luxury life in bizness?

I av a sales man who whose job used to be video coverage,I mean those during the video cassete day.now with technological developement @a high rate is out of job has 2 kids & doesn't feed or live fine.still went ahead to impregenate his wife for a third child.went to borrow money from this Mimi banks to pay hospital bills.lost the child,can't pay the loan& keeps running up & down to pay it...

Our govt r bleeped up,but we can help ourselves by being consious of alot

rusher14:


Who would put them in agriculture?

You must rationalise your situation to make a headway .

Nigerians are unproductive and continue to deflect from this fact yet they are eying Canada's palliatives.

No be long throat be that?

Very classical of the tyrant who never built a company of his own or contributed anything meaningful to the country except religious extremism and division, but finds his way into the presidency the second time because of people like you.

Don’t you think your government is lazier than Nigerians? They’re only able to test a couple people during a pandemic compared to their counterparts in leading African countries

The ‘unproductive’ Nigerians excelling in many countries of the world where there is some level of fair play.

rusher14:


Some of you don't get it or simply refuse to.

Canada has 35 million people. Nigeria has 180 million people.

Part of the problem are our parents but I know you wouldn't want to say anything terrible against them.

Even if you did a job that earns you 300 dollars the entire week, you would cough out at least 75 dollars from that cheque as tax.
But tell a Nigerian to pay tax and he'll be asking what has been done with the ones other people paid even if they were just 12% of the working population.

what about the Tax they paid to MC oluomo in oshodi?
do you think Canada gov't goes into every home on a daily bases to collect tax?

what do you mean Nigerians don't want to pay tax ? if the govt is responsible can't they put measure In place to deduct the Tax? but No way because even the govt knows he hasn't done anything to warrant withdrawing people's money yet the ones they get they don't put it to good use.
In Canada or USA alot of people don't have cause to pay tax yet they enjoy basic amenities
don't be surprised the person that posted that check is just a person that claimed asylum in Canada yet they cater for them...

My friend just got a work permit in USA and filed just a month tax voila she got the stimulus package.
don't worry we will get our tax refund from MC Oluomo and other miscreants that the govt watched to perpetuate evil right in their nose without doing nothing

socialmediaman:


Very classical of the tyrant who never built a company of his own or contributed anything meaningful to the country except religious extremism and division, but finds his way into the presidency the second time because of people like you.

Don’t you think your government is lazier than Nigerians? They’re only able to test a couple people during a pandemic compared to their counterparts in leading African countries

The ‘unproductive’ Nigerians excelling in many countries of the world where there is some level of fair play.

I think you overestimate the prowess and reputation of the average Nigerian.

Even in countries in which a platform has been created for productivity we get embarrassing reports of our exploits.

When I speak of productivity, you must understand it isn't the art of simply taking up employment but creating employment .

Creativity and innovation.

This is Nigeria's 21st year of democratic rule and everytime the citizens complain about the quality of people they themselves enthroned.

Isn't it time to realise that from shoes to watches to phones to clothing to food, nobody in the gratee world seeks your products but you seek theirs.

ovieigho:


what about the Tax they paid to MC oluomo in oshodi?
do you think Canada gov't goes into every home on a daily bases to collect tax?

what do you mean Nigerians don't want to pay tax ? if the govt is responsible can't they put measure In place to deduct the Tax? but No way because even the govt knows he hasn't done anything to warrant withdrawing people's money yet the ones they get they don't put it to good use.
In Canada or USA alot of people don't have cause to pay tax yet they enjoy basic amenities
don't be surprised the person that posted that check is just a person that claimed asylum in Canada yet they cater for them...

My friend just got a work permit in USA and filed just a month tax voila she got the stimulus package.
don't worry we will get our tax refund from MC Oluomo and other miscreants that the govt watched to perpetuate evil right in their nose without doing nothing

Income Tax and tariffs are 2 separate things.

C'mon now, you should know better.

rusher14:


Incime Tax and tariffs are 2 separate things.

C'mon now, you should know better.

so which one is MC Oluomo collecting?
tarrif...lolz
so the income tax we should go and place it on government table...

I don't know pls enlighten me ...

rusher14:


I think you overestimate the prowess and reputation of the average Nigerian.

Even in countries in which a platform has been created for productivity we get embarrassing reports of our exploits.

When I speak of productivity, you must understand it isn't the art of simply taking up employment but creating employment .

Creativity and innovation.

This is Nigeria's 21st year of democratic rule and everytime the citizens complain about the quality of people they themselves enthroned.

Isn't it time to realise that from shoes to watches to phones to clothing to food, nobody in the gratee world seeks your products but you seek theirs.

There will always be exploits, that’s why cyber security is one of the fastest growing professions today, and Nigerians are nowhere near the top of the people actively trying to manipulate the system.

I don’t think I overestimate the capability of the average Nigerian. You got it right, average Nigerian. The average Nigerian needs a job, he doesn’t need to be an inventor, he only needs to be employed by one. In developed countries, only a fraction of the countrymen are inventors, the rest get employed by them and others learn and aspire along the way. Your country has no structure to support inventors, your country has no value for engineers, technologists, educators and health professionals, that’s why they leave and never come back.

Yes the citizens complain because it’s their job to do so, but people like you make it difficult for the complaints to be heard, because you’ll spend your time trying to convince your fellow countrymen that they are the problem and not the government!

You’re wrong to think that people abroad don’t seek Nigerian products! Provide electricity, sanitize and bring efficiency to the security network and and facilitate online business and shipments and understand how we’re missing in e-commerce compared to Ghana and other countries.

rusher14:


Who would put them in agriculture?

You must rationalise your situation to make a headway .

Nigerians are unproductive and continue to deflect from this fact yet they are eying Canada's palliatives.

No be long throat be that?

Nigerians are unproductive? What a demeaning thing to say. You might be unproductive, not me and many other Nigerians home and abroad doing great things and being of benefit to our society.

You must be related to Buhari somehow to have decided with him that Nigerians are unproductive. People like you find every means to excuse the excesses of the government. There must be something in it for you. Good luck with that.

socialmediaman:


There will always be exploits, that’s why cyber security is one of the fastest growing professions today, and Nigerians are nowhere near the top of the people actively trying to manipulate the system.

I don’t think I overestimate the capability of the average Nigerian. You got it right, average Nigerian. The average Nigerian needs a job, he doesn’t need to be an inventor, he only needs to be employed by one. In developed countries, only a fraction of the countrymen are inventors, the rest get employed by them and others learn and aspire along the way. Your country has no structure to support inventors, your country has no value for engineers, technologists, educators and health professionals, that’s why they leave and never come back.

Yes the citizens complain because it’s their job to do so, but people like you make it difficult for the complaints to be heard, because you’ll spend your time trying to convince your fellow countrymen that they are the problem and not the government!

You’re wrong to think that people abroad don’t seek Nigerian products! Provide electricity, sanitize and bring efficiency to the security network and and facilitate online business and shipments and understand how we’re missing in e-commerce compared to Ghana and other countries.

Can't you see the president hidden in his statements? See his holier-than-thou attitude, calling Nigerians unproductive. People like him sit on princely horses, probably feeding large from government largese, and then turn around to spit on the foreheads of Nigerians.

There are millions and millions of Nigerians who go to work or market or farm everyday to make honest income. Yet someone sits in some cozy room and blankets everybody as unproductive. I don't blame him; the president gave him the impetus.

Nobody is asking Nigeria to pay the give out the equivalent of what serious countries are giving out. Rusher says Nigeria is poor. No problem. Our question then is, what has Nigeria done within her very little means to care and protect her people aside locking them down and giving out audio money?

GreyLaw:


Can't you see the president hidden in his statements? See his holier-than-thou attitude, calling Nigerians unproductive. People like him sit on princely horses, probably feeding large from government largese, and then turn around to spit on the foreheads of Nigerians.

There are millions and millions of Nigerians who go to work or market or farm everyday to make honest income. Yet someone sits in some cozy room and blankets everybody as unproductive. I don't blame him; the president gave him the impetus.

Nobody is asking Nigeria to pay the give out the equivalent of what serious countries are giving out. Rusher says Nigeria is poor. No problem. Our question then is, what has Nigeria done within her very little means to care and protect her people aside locking them down and giving out audio money?

Everytime someone has a differing opinion from you, the only thing you can resort to is that he is making money off government.

Have you ever asked yourself how the white man was able to reach our continent by sea-going vessels as far back as the 15th century?

Don't you realise it is the sheer invention and productivity inherent in them that made them overcome?

Feel insulted but I appeal to you to get to work.

There's no sugarcoating it.

We are not productive, and a society with this attitude of thinking it deserves better, when in actuality it fails on all indices, is deserving of its place in the doldrums and annals of history.

Look in your living room and point to the number of things manufactured in Nigeria then tell yourself the truth.

rusher14:


Which serious government ?

You mean only the one a section of the country would support?

The one that won't divide the country, the one who would not practice nepotism and favouritism and governance of party members. Do you know you can have a president that even when the opposition is trying to discredit the citizens will stand up for him. Nigeria is not yet ready my brother.

MyVILLAGEpeople:
Nigeria is the best country in the history of mankind

That's according to the people below