ABOVEDELAW:
NO CHRISTIANS IN THE BIBLE? ACTS 11 V 26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that for a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught many people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.


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donnie:


I laugh because you probably think the world began in Egypt.

donnie:

Have you heard of the sumemrians?

Amujale:


The Anunaki?

Yes, most historians have heard of Sumeria.

We can account for the earliest civilisation in all parts of Asia, and they are all relatively young conpared to Africa.

KM.T predates the Sumerian civilisation in years that would amount in their thousands.

All the East, South and West African civilisations predates KM.T.

What is hard to understand here.

The African calendar is the oldest in the world.

According to the African calendar, the year is 6256 (AFK) - Whereby afk denotes 'After the Founding of KM.T'.

That is to say there are periods that existed prior to our founding of KM.T

And we know that to be true due the plethora of evidence available.

donnie:


So for you, the whole idea is to Praise the greatness of ancestors, throw away the Most High and His commandments...

donnie:


.....pick up the gods of wood and stone right?

donnie:


I hope you know Chanok (Enoch) lived thousands of years before there was anything like Kamata (Egypt). The name Chanok is from my Mum's village. It means Goodness, and that's the same meaning in modern Hebrew language. One of the greatest men to ever walk this earth.

donnie:


This is the type of person who's steps I will like to follow, not someone trying to reduce The Most High to a mere concept or idea. May YAH have mercy on you for such foolish pride.

donnie:


This is the type of person who's steps I will like to follow, not someone trying to reduce The Most High to a mere concept or idea. May YAH have mercy on you for such foolish pride.

donnie:
So for you, the whole idea is to Praise the greatness of ancestors, throw away the Most High and His commandments and pick up the gods of wood and stone right? You serve the creature rather than the creator. Some of us have experienced his power. It is beyond useless history and theorising.

I hope you know Chanok (Enoch) lived thousands of years before there was anything like Kamata (Egypt). The name Chanok is from my Mum's village. It means Goodness, and that's the same meaning in modern Hebrew language. One of the greatest men to ever walk this earth.

Chanok knew the Most High YAH and kept His commandments. He walked so perfectly with YAH that he was taken up into the heavens and did not see death.

This is the type of person who's steps I will like to follow, not someone trying to reduce The Most High to a mere concept or idea. May YAH have mercy on you for such foolish pride.

Amujale:


I have proven that Christianity and Islam are soley responsible for the situation that are great continent is in as of present.

These facts are indisputable.

Given these truths, the African divine principle (The African Gods) are the only entities that possess the divine right and authority to fix our world.

Whether you want to admit that or not, that is the absolute truth.

MuttleyLaff:
C'mon now donnie, you're better than this nah, lol.

OK, so how do you mean "[i]Chanok ... he was taken up into the heavens and did not see death[/i?]"

donnie:
Yes na
Or didn't he?

donnie:
Many Africans knew and worshipped the one true ELOHIYM and creator.
Christianity and Islam are none of my business.

MuttleyLaff:
Melchizedek was a ruler cum priest of the Most High God, but didn't know God same way Abraham did or have the same kind of relationship Abraham had with God. This is evidenced on how Abraham corrected Melchizedek after he misaddressed God

Amujale:


You are better off holding onto to Chanok, because i can assure you that Enoch is a fictitious character that never existed.

You claim Chanok is Enoch?

Show us where in the Christian Bible that it says that, what chapter and what verse?

donnie:
Study my friend, and study correctly to show yourself approved.

donnie:
You cannot read only the English bible translated from Bantu (Hebrew) language and hope to understand clearly.

The name CHANOK (Bantu/Hebrew) was translated to Enoch (English). Check the Hebrew lexicon. The same thing was done to many other bible names.

MuttleyLaff:


"Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine;
he was the priest of God Most High."
- Genesis 14:18

Many of our ancestors, forebears, Africans knew and worshipped the one true ELOHIYM and creator, definitely in some same and similar manner Mechizedek worshipped TMH, lol.

MuttleyLaff:
Bible 101, first understand that the bible WAS NOT originally written in English. Next understand the setting, the idioms, the culture, colloiquials etcetera that the narratives in the bible is based from, lol.

There are some incidents in the bible narratives that has no correct English direct translation or comprehension, lol, and so most times, whenever translated to English, does fall victim to losing it original meaning or intent and then get misunderstood or misinterpreted, lol

donnie:
Yes na
Or didn't he?

MuttleyLaff:
You tell me now, lol.
Explain please how you mean "Chanok ... he was taken up into the heavens and did not see death"

PS: About that "alien" visitation you said you heard. I was going to reply you, and tell you about it and more, lol but have my response to it, sitting here left unfinished, lol

donnie:
That's a whole new discussion my friend because he did know the most High well. That TMH didn't cut a covenant with him doesn't mean they didn't have lively relationship. Each with his own revelation, calling and assignment.

donnie:
You'll find many hidden truths in the apochrypha books which they removed. Christianity hides a lot of truth. Don't forget Melchizedek blessed Abraham. The lesser is blessed of the greater.

donnie:
... Christianity hides a lot of truth.

donnie:
Don't forget Melchizedek blessed Abraham. The lesser is blessed of the greater.

MuttleyLaff:
You tell me now, lol.
Explain please how you mean "Chanok ... he was taken up into the heavens and did not see death"

PS: About that "alien" visitation you said you heard. I was going to reply you, and tell you about it and more, lol but have my response to it, sitting here left unfinished, lol

donnie:
Hebrews 11:5
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death;
and was not found, because God had translated him:
for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

MuttleyLaff:
Why should he be expecting a covenant, when TMH hasnt approached him or asked him to leave his country, family house etcetera to somewhere else, lol.

MuttleyLaff:
All I advanced was that
Melchizedek was a ruler cum priest of the Most High God, but didn't know God same way Abraham did or have the same kind of relationship Abraham had with God and that this is evidenced on how Abraham corrected Melchizedek after he misaddressed God

The question now is, did Abraham correct Melchizedek after he misaddressed God or not (i.e. Genesis 14:21). You'll have to be eagle-eyed, to spot it, lol.

MuttleyLaff:

Melchizedek, no doubt knew TMH, but he certainly didnt know TMH as personally as Abraham did. If he did, he didnt show it, like how Abraham did in Genesis 14:21, lol.

MuttleyLaff:
One doesnt, in order to find many hidden truth, necessarily need to chase apochrypha books, whichever removed, because the Spirit of Truth, He will teach you all truth, lol. The Spirit will teach you everything, lol

MuttleyLaff:

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What contextually does this mean?
Abraham, in his own right, lol, is a priest nah, so why did Abraham need Melchizedek? Why have this "The lesser is blessed of the greater" thing go on, lol?. Who is the lesser between them both? Who is the greater between them both, lol?

MuttleyLaff:
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What's the meaning of Hebrews 11:5?
C'mon nah, you can do better than ordinarily without any effort of explaining done, just paste Hebrews 11:5 here like this.

donnie:
It is self explanatory.

donnie:
Wow

donnie:
Do you mean this:
Genesis 14:22
"And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth,

donnie:
I don't think this is a correction, however subtle. This was a spiritual encounter, different people could address YAH differently, based on their revelation of Him. Hence, they'd all be correct in a sense.

donnie:
I'd go with the bolded, even though we can only know of the man of what was written about him. That much wasn't written about him, doesn't necessarily mean he knew YAH less.

donnie:
Truth! The Spirit of Truth...
But the Spirit always testifies of the written Word.

"And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better."
- Hebrews 7:7

MuttleyLaff:
It gets even better and extremely interesting

When you sit down to have a plate of yellow garri and nkwobi special, you have to eat starting somewhere on the plate, isnt it, lol? There is nothing necessarily special about where you first start, nothing special about the place on the plate you started with. You need to strt eating off the plate, from a start point, so it was with Abraham, a former idolater, an ex-pagan or reformed idol worshipper, lol, God handpicked him, when he could have picked anyone else as well. It is favour that Abraham had, when on that fateful day, God spoke to him to leave etcetera. The rest is history, lol

MuttleyLaff:
God bless you. I have already gone to correct the typo, yes, I meant Genesis 14:22, so have you seen how distinctively Abraham addressed God when an opportunity arose to reveal whom he particularly has allegiance to, compared with Melchizedek, who twice, said TMH, but never qualified whom TMH is, lol.

Melchizedek was not complete or absolute in his correctness. He was limited in addressing YAH differently based on his limited revelation and relationship of YAH.

I am correct in calling you donnie here, but I am sure because I havent got the sort of relationship Mrs donnie has with you, lol, I wouldnt know the mushy lovey-dovey names Mrs donnie calls you, lol, when she wants to press your PIN number buttons, lol

MuttleyLaff:
Of course, you have to and this because the bible made it a point showing that Abraham used a name for God that Melchizedek when he twice had the opportunity never did. We knew heard of Melchizedek again until next 4000 years later or thereabouts in the New Testament, but father Abraham get plodding on, making slow but sure progress, lol.

donnie:
Yup grace... election, all praises to YAH. And by the way, that nkwobi thing... don't start o.... Nkwobi and Abacha. Chai... I miss the East!

donnie:
lol, but even Abraham was limited, remember his blunders too? However, I still will not call that an omission or mistake. You know addressing the Most High or his praise is based on the present inspiration you get. He is too great for any man to completely fathom.

donnie:
Abraham had ancestors who taught him about YAHUAH. Shem was one of them.

JASHER 9
5 And when Abram came out from the cave, he went to Noah and his son Shem, and he remained with them to learn the instruction of the Elohim and His ways, and no man knew where Abram was, and Abram served Noah and Shem his son for a long time.
6 Abram was in Noah’s house thirty-nine years, and Abram knew Yehovah from three years old, and he went in the ways of Yehovah until the day of his death, as Noah and his son Shem had taught him; and all the sons of the earth in those days greatly transgressed against Yehovah, and they rebelled against him and they served other elohim (lawmakers and judges), and they forgot Yehovah who had created them in the earth;

donnie:
And many refer to Shem and Melchisadeck as one and the same person.

Here is the case for their oneness:
1. The inheritance given to Shem included the land of Salem. Melchizedek appears in scripture as the king of Salem, who reigns over this area.
2. Shem, being the son of Noah with THE SEED, reigned in righteousness and the priesthood came through him. Melchizedek appears on the scene with a title Melchiszedek meaning “king of righteousness.” That is actually the meaning of the name.
3. Shem, therefore, became the great high priest of his day after Noah's passing. Abraham honored the high priest Melchizedek, was blessed by him and paid him tithes.

ETC. look it up for yourself.

MuttleyLaff:
The contradictions are very glaring in the above quoted Book of Jasher 9:5-6 you advanced and its just testament to the fact why it never made it into the 66, lol.

MuttleyLaff:

"Then Joshua told everyone to listen to this message from the LORD, the God of Israel:
Long ago your ancestors lived on the other side of the Euphrates River, and they worshiped other gods.
This continued until the time of your ancestor Terah and his two sons, Abraham and Nahor."
- Joshua 24:2

My only concern about these your three points is Joshua 24:2, lol, when with Abraham, being a former idolater, an ex-pagan or reformed idol worshipper, lol, God handpicked. So when the Abram/Abraham derail from Shem and Noah's teaching, only to be reintroduced back to God, hmm?

MuttleyLaff:
Now please again donnie, give a good effort on giving the exegesis and hermeneutics of Genesis 5:24 and Hebrews 11:5. You really need to unlearn what you've learnt and strongly come to believe are true about Enoch, which unfortunately are all wrong and false, lol, due to bad translations, incorrect translatings and bad doctrine(s), lol.