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Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by SIONKPO1(m): 2:28pm On Apr 25, 2020
desiredhome:
When there was only authodox Church, there was respect for God and Church, there was less crime in the society, there was love among people.....till the Penticostals start springing out,
Today they've turned Church to private business
The catholic church was so brutal,fetish and corrupt during the time of Pope Titus and others
Laslas,personal relationship with GOD is the key
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by nokatakata: 2:29pm On Apr 25, 2020
Vulcanheph:
This also happens in RCCG, All Mega parishes in the east have Yoruba pastors while the smaller ones don't and also all state provinces are being headed by Yoruba.....but the Sheeple members will never notice this.
You cursed,dirty and daft ipods should attend odumeje's church. It is as simple as that. You always want to compete with your masters in every aspect but una nor dey ever reach. Go to lord's chosen where your wretched,ugly frustrated fellow iPods go to.
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by maestroferddi: 2:34pm On Apr 25, 2020
Charleys:
80% of yorubas are Muslims.

Most of these Yoruba pastors were born in Osun state.

Why can't they convert Osun state indegenes to christians?

But they want to go to other regions with 90% christians to convert them....


Note that every Yoruba person is related to a Muslim
My brother the thing tire person.

The Yoruba Christian hardly sees the need to reclaim their land from Islam.

There will be flexing telling you why the whole world should be giving them deference in that papa na Muslim, mama na Cele while pikin dey Redeem....

I thnik Christisnity as we practise it today is too liberal and idealistic.

Apostle Paul asked in 1 Timothy 3: How can a man who cannot exercise control over his own household lead the church of God?

How can you claim authority and relevance in the body of Christ when you cannot impact your immediate community?

We Igbos get called names for resisting and rejecting Islam in any guise...We are the bulwark against Islam in Nigeria....They know it even in Saudi Arabia....You cant be indirectly tolerating/condoning the spread of Islam and turn round to take advantage of the household of Christianity..

Who does that? Certainly never in the Bible...
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by SIONKPO1(m): 2:39pm On Apr 25, 2020
Ojiofor:
The same Bible the Catholic Church gave to the world.
Seek knowledge and stop living in a world of ignorance.
And why pick on Catholic when I mentioned over 3 Universal Churches?
You should have lived by your own words and leave the first Church of God to God instead of calling them evil,I know you prefer the ritualist churches in your region to Orthodox Churches.
No man,you were condemning new breed Pentecostal churches because of the wrongs of some few greedy criminals who called themselves instead of the calling of GOD
BUT the flaws of Orthodox churches are enormous
Thou we are many but we are one body in christ
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by maestroferddi: 2:41pm On Apr 25, 2020
farem:
You exposed your ignorance on your responses.

You said it was a tribal affair, then it was clanish affairs.

You said you were republican and yet you ignorantly crave to be in charge of big churches which your Republican (narrow) minds cannot nurture from the scratch successfully not to talk of managing.

You said it was Igbo affairs. How I wish Ariara people will dash you some terrible e-slap to register their grievance on what you called Igbo affairs.
You are groping in the dark oga...

I cant string coherence in what you submitted above.

I implied that the Igbos abhor injustice by what I narrated.. I stand to be corrected.

Ariaria people never complained about the saga...Instead it was a misguided Yoruba media which tried to blow the matter out of proportion.

After all the much of a muchness, who prevailed?
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by SIONKPO1(m): 2:49pm On Apr 25, 2020
butterfly777:
if for any reason I catch my son or daughter in any church headed by a Yoruba man ,I will disown that child immediately .have you noticed something about these churches .? for instance winners chapel in the east if a particular satellite church brings more money for tithes and offerings,that church will be headed by Yoruba man but if it does not , it will be headed by an easterner.

Response

This is how it works.
Most of the Meg churches in Nigeria started in the South West, which is mainly populated by the Yorubas. Naturally, the Yorubas joined the churches earlier and became Pastors earlier than most people from other tribe. They were transferred to other parts of Nigeria to start branches of the church over there.

So, naturally, those 'old' branches ( many of which were started by these Yorubas), will usually have more members, and more money than the new ones (when non Yorubas have now started becoming Pastors there) and it is not a coincidence that many of the Pastors will be Yorubas, since most of them became Pastors in the ministry before it gained ground in the east and north.

This is the simple explanation. Pls, let's not bring tribalism to divide the church of Christ.
Bros,there is Tribalism in the body of Christ as practised in Nigeria today
Ask yourself,why are most provincial parish,of rccg pastored by Yoruba's
Why are most parish priests Igbo's even when its outside their environment
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by desiredhome: 2:52pm On Apr 25, 2020
drmikeadams:
grin grin[center][/center] grin don't blame d pastors,blame d gullible followers that refused to have brain grin grin
The truth is Nigerians generally have a slave mentality/lazy mindset....

Some of these Pastorpreours are juju prists tuned pastor so some of them uses that voodoo power on their members meaning a lot are under a spell.
Some is greed, lack of contentment, some is laziness of their guelible members
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by desiredhome: 2:56pm On Apr 25, 2020
SIONKPO1:
The catholic church was so brutal,fetish and corrupt during the time of Pope Titus and others
Laslas,personal relationship with GOD is the key
Yes you are correct, personal relationship with God is the key, according to how the spirit direct you
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by Ojiofor: 3:04pm On Apr 25, 2020
SIONKPO1:
No man,you were condemning new breed Pentecostal churches because of the wrongs of some few greedy criminals who called themselves instead of the calling of GOD
BUT the flaws of Orthodox churches are enormous
Thou we are many but we are one body in christ
No,I did not condemn any church rather I was advising my Igbo brothers who often complain of being marginalised in Yoruba owned Churches to return back to their former churches where they were baptised as christians.
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by maestroferddi: 3:07pm On Apr 25, 2020
farem:
Read again!
The only thing you can't bring out is that no one ever collected a grown branch from any "indigene" (using word that flows with your mindset). Can you prove it?
Why is it that the ones planted and being managed by the "foreigners" (using word that flows with your mindset) are the big ones? Can you prove it?

God (life) rewards the diligent and never those who fold hands waiting for rewards!
Sitting like a lame duck and expecting who will hand over things is the beginning of misery.
So going by your flawed logic, only pastors of Yoruba extraction are hardworking in RCCG?

You are supposed to be educated, ogbeni....
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by SIONKPO1(m): 3:10pm On Apr 25, 2020
Ojiofor:
No,I did not condemn any church rather I was advising my Igbo brothers who often complain of being marginalised in Yoruba owned Churches to return back to their former churches where they were baptised as christians.
Its Christ that own church not Yoruba,Igbo or any tribe
Try to put yourself in their shoes,most provincial and regional pastors are Yoruba in RCCG,even me I detest it,at a long run it might affect RCCG negatively if worshippers of other ethnic starts taking cognicence of it.
Thou its not only peculiar to RCCG alone
* Assemblies
*Catholic
*Anglican
*Chosen etc
I
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by Ojiofor: 3:14pm On Apr 25, 2020
SIONKPO1:
Its Christ that own church not Yoruba,Igbo or any tribe
Try to put yourself in their shoes,most provincial and regional pastors are Yoruba in RCCG,even me I detest it,at a long run it might affect RCCG negatively if worshippers of other ethnic starts taking cognicence of it.
Thou its not only peculiar to RCCG alone
* Assemblies
*Catholic
*Anglican
*Chosen etc
I
I stand by my position,instead of complaining in one man show churches go back to your roots.We know our roots in christianity.
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by SIONKPO1(m): 3:17pm On Apr 25, 2020
Ojiofor:
I stand by my position,instead of complaining in one man show churches go back to your roots.We know our roots in christianity.
Most people let orthodox church(root), because they feel that they were caged(manifesting your gift)
RCCG and others should have a very good structure that will easily absolve and carry along people of other Ethnic groups in its decision making
***The church will keep marching on
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by butterfly777(m): 3:21pm On Apr 25, 2020
SIONKPO1:
Bros,there is Tribalism in the body of Christ as practised in Nigeria today
Ask yourself,why are most provincial parish,of rccg pastored by Yoruba's
Why are most parish priests Igbo's even when its outside their environment
RCCG started in Yoruba land, and more Yorubas joined earlier than non-Yorubas. Similar reason why we have more senior Catholic clergymen who are Ibos.

Put tribalism aside, pls.
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by Ojiofor: 3:22pm On Apr 25, 2020
SIONKPO1:
Most people let orthodox church(root), because they feel that they were caged(manifesting your gift)
RCCG and others should have a very good structure that will easily absolve and carry along people of other Ethnic groups in its decision making
***The church will keep marching on
Na now they enter one chance of the more you look the less you see.
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by maestroferddi: 3:37pm On Apr 25, 2020
SIONKPO1:
Most people let orthodox church(root), because they feel that they were caged(manifesting your gift)
RCCG and others should have a very good structure that will easily absolve and carry along people of other Ethnic groups in its decision making
***The church will keep marching on
That is one area most people miss it in Nigeria.

A church is supposed to accept corrections and make requisite adjustments.

I dont know where some people get the idea that churches are irreproachable/infalllible.

Apostle Paul was known to exhort churches/believers to do a self-evaluation/spiritual check...

What you see today arw some churches claiming to know it all even when you can point to several doctrinal errors or even heretical teachings in their creeds.

Accept corrections and effect reforns...Period.
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by desiredhome: 4:05pm On Apr 25, 2020
drmikeadams:
grin grin grin grin unfortunately the followers RE so blind,that they can't see d scam and manipulations
True..... because they are as greedy as their oppressor(the Pastorpreours)

1 Timothy 6:9-10
Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction.
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by PremierGuy(m): 4:16pm On Apr 25, 2020
Our faith should only be in Jesus Christ and nobody else.
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by ArticleBeast: 4:38pm On Apr 25, 2020
Futurejoy:
Why do people talk like this for christ’s Sake
Why do people not mind their business?
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by farem: 7:09pm On Apr 25, 2020
maestroferddi:
So going by your flawed logic, only pastors of Yoruba extraction are hardworking in RCCG?

You are supposed to be educated, ogbeni....
Listen to yourself! I don't want to know what's happening in rccg, you that's there should tell us.
Since it's now clear that the grouse is against rccg, I think there should be a better avenue to cry your ass out or is there anyone here appointed to see to that?
Before I let off, you haven't still substantiated the fact that you (aborigines) started a branch from scratch and as it grew it was snatched and given to another (alien).
That's the only thing that will make your cries,and grieves meaningful here.
Thanks
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by Moneywomen17(m): 8:11pm On Apr 25, 2020
Going by this thread u can see only ibo will claim victim and marginalization even in Christianity. The truth is right from time in Nigeria Yoruba has always lead in Christianity movement. Just look at the history of can president. Yoruba 3 and no ibo. Is that also marginalization. My point ibo just like being victims.

Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by davires: 9:33pm On Apr 25, 2020
Adiola:
if for any reason I catch my son or daughter in any church headed by a Yoruba man ,I will disown that child immediately .have you noticed something about these churches .? for instance winners chapel in the east if a particular satellite church brings more money for tithes and offerings,that church will be headed by Yoruba man but if it does not , it will be headed by an easterner.
mumu.Have you seen a yourba man leading a parish of Lords chosen or TREM to mention a few.Do me i do youm
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by Adiola(f): 9:51pm On Apr 25, 2020
davires:
mumu.Have you seen a yourba man leading a parish of Lords chosen or TREM to mention a few.Do me i do youm
myndd44
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by Chanchit: 3:43am On Apr 26, 2020
drmikeadams:
grin grin grin abeg where d church,make them dey pay me to attend too
I'm an instrumentalist Sir. So if you play a musical instrument too, why not
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by maestroferddi:
farem:
Listen to yourself! I don't want to know what's happening in rccg, you that's there should tell us.
Since it's now clear that the grouse is against rccg, I think there should be a better avenue to cry your ass out or is there anyone here appointed to see to that?
Before I let off, you haven't still substantiated the fact that you (aborigines) started a branch from scratch and as it grew it was snatched and given to another (alien).
That's the only thing that will make your cries,and grieves meaningful here.
Thanks
Come over to Christ and you will understand.
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by ChristianNorth: 9:36am On Apr 26, 2020
Chanchit:
What is this one saying. I'm not talking about churches sef. I only go to church cos I get paid to attend a service. What I'm talking about is the properties Igbos stand to lose when we break up.
E no concern you.
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by Jeffyblaq(m): 10:27am On Apr 26, 2020
Eastlink:
Lessons learnt! Any Christian who failed to learn in this COVID 19 epidemic will never learn again. My Thithes will never go to Pastors again, I'll give them to charity than fill the pockets of material ego maniacs. Charity was what Christ preached and not thithing. And any follower of Christ must begin to reach out to the poor and needy, that's where real blessing and salvation dwells.

I've learnt a great deal this period,
You ve been set free indeed...

Go home in yuh closet and worship your maker in the spirit.


Bravo!
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by farem: 12:02pm On Apr 26, 2020
maestroferddi:
Come over to Chriat and you will understand.
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by Chanchit: 12:17pm On Apr 26, 2020
ChristianNorth:
E no concern you.
But you quoted me first. Receive sense. Happy Sunday
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by maestroferddi: 4:51pm On Apr 26, 2020
[quote author=farem post=88870098][/quote]Thanks for the correction.

But you need to receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal Saviour.

The door is open...
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by Igbaguru: 5:40pm On Apr 26, 2020
The beauty of every thing is that nobody ever drags you to church. You were not forced to pay tithes or offering. The day is coming, you will close your eyes in dead without bible salvation, you will know how terrible Almighty God is when it comes to JUDGEMENT. I mean terrible Judgement. All these your excuses, will only send you to HELL . REPENT OF YOUR SINS NOW
Re: The Lists Of Pastors You Must Avoid Their Churches After This Lockdown And Why by Mystiquefia: 5:50pm On Apr 26, 2020
Adiola:
afonja I will soon draw u out for the world to see the Yoruba in you We south south my foot
Myndd44 Lalasticlala Obinoscopy Seun
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