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This answer is in reply to Maximus69 constant question as to the fact that we need a supreme being to direct our path to create a peaceful society.







ANSWER:


You don't need God to be nice to your fellow human beings.

The simple rule of thumb is to not do to another what yourself will detest if done to you... it's as simple as that.
- Before you steal from another, you already know that if the same act is done to you, you will not be happy. Hence, you will also love to protect what you stole so that another person doesn't steal it from you too.
- Same thing applies to sleeping with anothers partner. You wouldn't like for someone else to sleep with yours.
- Same thing applies to coveting another's gift.
- etc.

Morality is basic, and you don't need a God to know it or follow it. If someone needs a god to be a good/moral person, then that person must be a very evil person, because they're being good for a reason: to please their god/make his/her everlasting life.
What this means simply is that without this god in your life, you will be immoral and vile.

So as a religious person, the question you should be asking yourself is, do i have the capacity to be good without a god?
Or
I'm i as a religious person good because it is what is commanded in my religious book?

Everyone was born free, and religious beliefs are acquired. The person who needs god to be a good person is just faking it for a reward===>heaven/paradise/whatever.
Hence you hear things like " it's because of god...", "If not for God eeh, i will not...", "Just doing it for God, not you...", "I'm doing it cuz my reward is in heaven..." etc.
Already, persons who use those types of sentences are immoral persons, because they have told you exactly why they're doing what they're doing...cuz of God.
You can only then begin to imagine what they will do when this god is not in the picture.

In all my interactions as a person, one of the few things that stops people from being good to others is still their belief in same god's. Because the moment you side with one god, you are forced to see others through the bias of your own religious beliefs and practices.

Be careful of people being good to you because of God/god, they are not moral. Being good because of a god is immoral in itself.

Regards!!!

IamMichael:
This answer is in reply to Maximus69 constant question as to the fact that we need a supreme being to direct our path to create a peaceful society.







ANSWER:


You don't need God to be nice to your fellow human beings.

The simple rule of thumb is to not do to another what yourself will detest if done to you... it's as simple as that.
- Before you steal from another, you already know that if the same act is done to you, you will not be happy. Hence, you will also love to protect what you stole so that another person doesn't steal it from you too.
- Same thing applies to sleeping with anothers partner. You wouldn't like for someone else to sleep with yours.
- Same thing applies to coveting another's gift.
- etc.

Morality is basic, and you don't need a God to know it or follow it. If someone needs a god to be a good/moral person, then that person must be a very evil person, because they're being good for a reason: to please their god/make his/her everlasting life.
What this means simply is that without this god in your life, you will be immoral and vile.

So as a religious person, the question you should be asking yourself is, do i have the capacity to be good without a god?
Or
I'm i as a religious person good because it is what is commanded in my religious book?

Everyone was born free, and religious beliefs are acquired. The person who needs god to be a good person is just faking it for a reward===>heaven/paradise/whatever.
Hence you hear things like " it's because of god...", "If not for God eeh, i will not...", "Just doing it for God, not you...", "I'm doing it cuz my reward is in heaven..." etc.
Already, persons who use those types of sentences are immoral persons, because they have told you exactly why they're doing what they're doing...cuz of God.
You can only then begin to imagine what they will do when this god is not in the picture.

In all my interactions as a person, one of the few things that stops people from being good to others is still their belief in same god's. Because the moment you side with one god, you are forced to see others through the bias of your own religious beliefs and practices.

Be careful of people being good to you because of God/god, they are not moral. Being good because of a god is immoral in itself.

Regards!!!

You misunderstood or let me say you misconstrued the whole thing!

God made humans in his own image so we possess his qualities at birth.
WISDOM
JUSTICE
POWER and
LOVE

Are God's attributes that's found in humans at birth, you'll notice that little children don't discriminate amongst themselves when playing together. The mutual understanding between these little angels transcends skin colour, language or social status, to them we are all equal.

However when we begin to grow there is this tendency to start developing close bond with people we know more than the ones who hardly know, and gradually we'll begin to favour some above others due to circumstances surrounding us!

That is where God comes in!

You can go back to your posts and see if you've not been infected with Racism and Politics. In most of your posts you often portray the white as thieves who have come to rob the blacks!

You even said blacks should think of how to develop their home land (specifically Nigeria) as if we are no more one human race!

If care is not taken, you'll find yourself in the midst of warmongers and racists killing your fellowman because of politics!

God's word said he (God) owns the whole earth so you don't need to keep thinking about a certain race as if they've been cheated, if some people aren't using their God's given brains to their own benefits nothing stops you from migrating to another place where people living there understands life better!

So humans were created to love one another but only God can teach us how to do so in a perfect sense!

Thanks!

Maximus69:
You misunderstood or let me say you misconstrued the whole thing!

God made humans in his own image so we possess his qualities at birth.
WISDOM
JUSTICE
POWER and
LOVE

Are God's attributes that's found in humans at birth, you'll notice that little children don't discriminate amongst themselves when playing together. The mutual understanding between these little angels transcends skin colour, language or social status, to them we are all equal.

However when we begin to grow there is this tendency to start developing close bond with people we know more than the ones who hardly know, and gradually we'll begin to favour some above others due to circumstances surrounding us!

That is where God comes in!

You can go back to your posts and see if you've not been infected with Racism and Politics. In most of your posts you often portray the white as thieves who have come to rob the blacks!

You even said blacks should think of how to develop their home land (specifically Nigeria) as if we are no more one human race!

If care is not taken, you'll find yourself in the midst of warmongers and racists killing your fellowman because of politics!

God's word said he (God) owns the whole earth so you don't need to keep thinking about a certain race as if they've been cheated, if some people aren't using their God's given brains to their own benefits nothing stops you from migrating to another place where people living there understands life better!

So humans were created to love one another but only God can teach us how to do so in a perfect sense!

Thanks!

@bolded, you refer to my comments in the wrong manner, which in turn makes your understanding of same comments skewed from the beginning.
Saying that some white people left their homeland to come here and steal our resources is fact. It has nothing to do with racism and politics. It is something that happened and well documented, so i don't know why you would even start thinking it is racist.
Then again, it goes to show how poor your understanding of things are.

Secondly, millions of non-believers in the world have shown that we don't need god to be who you are... You even said children are not born with bias, then you again said they were born with:
- "WISDOM
JUSTICE
POWER and
LOVE"
This are exactly the concepts that create bias. Your bible has explicitly shown that Yahweh is full on high with the highest form of bigotry and prejudice. Yahweh is erratic, biased, nepotic and grandmaster of favouritism. It's not surprising though that his followers will subscribe to the same traits.

However, all those who don't subscribe to religious doctrines regain their lost self, and start being humans...which means recognising that humans come first while subscribing to god's means the subscribers start exhibiting the traits of their god in no distance time.


History has shown time and again what humans do with the religious beliefs they subscribe to.

IamMichael:
@bolded, you refer to my comments in the wrong manner, which in turn makes your understanding of same comments skewed from the beginning.
Saying that some white people left their homeland to come here and steal our resources is fact. It has nothing to do with racism and politics. It is something that happened and well documented, so i don't know why you would even start thinking it is racist.
Then again, it goes to show how poor your understanding of things are.

Secondly, millions of non-believers in the world have shown that we don't need god to be who you are... You even said children are not born with bias, then you again said they were born with:
- "WISDOM
JUSTICE
POWER and
LOVE"
This are exactly the concepts that create bias. Your bible has explicitly shown that Yahweh is full on high with the highest form of bigotry and prejudice. Yahweh is erratic, biased, nepotic and grandmaster of favouritism. It's not surprising though that his followers will subscribe to the same traits.

However, all those who don't subscribe to religious doctrines regain their lost self, and start being humans...which means recognising that humans come first while subscribing to god's means the subscribers start exhibiting the traits of their god in no distance time.


History has shown time and again what humans do with the religious beliefs they subscribe to.

According to his word, you are misplacing judgment for favoritism!

The truth is God shows favour only to those who love righteousness! Act 10:34-35

His son even asked us to love our enemies! Matthew 5:43-48

And as for racism you've confirmed that you've been infected for sure because when we talk about robbery, people have been robbing people for ages!

If your ancestors robbed my own ancestors some 300 years back, please is it possible for us to erase the memory and start living as a family?

Your thoughts on this issue really matters because our own generation have robbed most of these white people too so if we're to continue banking on the past, we will never overcome Racism!

Maximus69:
According to his word, you are misplacing judgment for favoritism!

The truth is God shows favour only to those who love righteousness! Act 10:34-35

His son even asked us to love our enemies! Matthew 5:43-48

And as for racism you've confirmed that you've been infected for sure because when we talk about robbery, people have been robbing people for ages!

If your ancestors robbed my own ancestors some 300 years back, please is it possible for us to erase the memory and start living as a family?

Your thoughts on this issue really matters because our own generation have robbed most of these white people too so if we're to continue banking on the past, we will never overcome Racism!

The fact is that stealing is bad, it doesn't matter who did/does it. It doesn't matter how it is disguised.

As for your question @bolded, take a look around you. Despite the fact that Nigeria ganged up against Igbo's during the civil war, has it stopped Igbo people from living everywhere in Nigeria and trying to make ends meet?

Has the stealing of our resources made black people stop visiting European countries or patronising their products/services?
The answer is typical No.

The only take away from it all is "Lesson learned."
You learn how to make sure noone steals from you again.
If you are planning on revenge for an act done to you 300yrs ago, then of course everyone will confirm that you are vengeance sociopath...as they say about vengeance, dig two graves before you embark on such mission!



Always know the meaning of words before you use it so that you don't speak from an ignorant perspective:

racism
/ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
noun

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

IamMichael:
The fact is that stealing is bad, it doesn't matter who did/does it. It doesn't matter how it is disguised.

As for your question @bolded, take a look around you. Despite the fact that Nigeria ganged up against Igbo's during the civil war, has it stopped Igbo people from living everywhere in Nigeria and trying to make ends meet?

Has the stealing of our resources made black people stop visiting European countries or patronising their products/services?
The answer is typical No.

The only take away from it all is "Lesson learned."
You learn how to make sure noone steals from you again.
If you are planning on revenge for an act done to you 300yrs ago, then of course everyone will confirm that you are vengeance sociopath...as they say about vengeance, dig two graves before you embark on such mission!



Always know the meaning of words before you use it so that you don't speak from an ignorant perspective:

racism
/ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
noun

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

Then we're on the same page!

What we supposed to be discussing is how the earth could be made one family, and we should forget about the past and concentrate on the future.
The system that led to those robberies should be severely scrutinized so it doesn't repeat itself.
Please when commenting try considering some who finds it hard to let bygone be bygone. You may not have anything to do with vengeance however the up coming generation might not let it go!

However thanks for your time.

One love!

Maximus69:
Then we're on the same page!

What we supposed to be discussing is how the earth could be made one family, and we should forget about the past and concentrate on the future.
The system that led to those robberies should be severely scrutinized so it doesn't repeat itself.
Please when commenting try considering some who finds it hard to let bygone be bygone. You may not have anything to do with vengeance however the up coming generation might not let it go!

However thanks for your time.

One love!

You are welcome.